[02:05] <bluesabre> jphilips: generally we only do SRUs to fix specific bugs. If you have one that xfwm 4.14.6 fixes, we can definitely SRU it into focal.
[02:05] <bluesabre> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for more information
[02:29] <jphilips> bluesabre: I thought regular point updates simply flow into the LTS to keep it updated
[02:30] <jphilips> like libreoffice and firefox
[02:30] <jphilips> well firefox has version updates
[02:31] <jphilips> this one definitely needs to try and get into 20.04 https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/exo/-/commit/b41b65612085a145622d23207b810e9cbb40e3cb
[02:31] <ubot3> Commit b41b656 in xfce/exo "Allow resizing the xfce4-settings window smaller (fixes #19)"
[03:47] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-appfinder 4.14.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-appfinder-4-14-1-released-tp59902.html (by Andre Miranda)
[03:47] <JackFrost> !mre
[03:47] <ubot3> Micro Release Exceptions are approved by the Ubuntu Technical Board on a per-package basis for packages that cannot be acceptably handled through the Stable Release Update (!sru) process. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions for more information.
[03:47] <JackFrost> I thought we had that.
[03:56] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfdesktop 4.14.4 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfdesktop-4-14-4-released-tp59904.html (by Andre Miranda)
[09:47] <brainwash> jphilips: LTS is not about being up-to-date :)
[12:41] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfdashboard 0.8.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfdashboard-0-8-1-released-tp59907.html (by Stephan Haller)
[17:24] <jphilips> brainwash: want to atleast be up to date on the same release of apps, so fixed bugs are resolved. ubuntu not wanting to have new releases of apps to ensure stability is fine, but bug fix point releases shouldn't need anything special to get pushed to users
[17:24] <jphilips> bluesabre, JackFrost: we need to push in 0.10.2 for weather app, as it is now broken with 0.10.1 as the old api was cancelled on march 1st
[17:24] <jphilips> https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/-/commit/c553c939ad17e524a494a189f70ae35c1e734f57
[17:24] <ubot3> Commit c553c93 in panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin "Update for release"
[17:25] <jphilips> https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/-/issues/27#note_26819
[17:25] <ubot3> Issue 27 in panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin "currently no data available" [Opened]
[17:29] <brainwash> jphilips: it's too much work. you have to package the minor releases, properly test them, react to regressions, etc.
[17:30] <brainwash> it's not an automated process
[17:51] <JackFrost> Except that xfdesktop one looks pretty small, and fixes a memory leak.
[18:42] <brainwash> it's a very specific memory leak though
[18:44] <brainwash> you have to run "xfdesktop --menu" to trigger one leakage(?)
[19:03] <krytarik> https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/-/issues/102 - yeah, that's the one.
[19:03] <ubot3> Issue 102 in xfce/xfdesktop "Applications Menu memory leak" [Closed]
[22:45] <jphilips> brainwash: the minor releases are packaged in 20.10, so i presume it isn't that difficult to repackage them for 20.04
[22:46] <jphilips> bluesabre, knome, pleia2: needed to get 21.04 added to the site, so I can add news links to it
[23:00] <jphilips> bluesabre: would be good to add to the grub installer menu a means to jump directly to the desktop and not have to go first to the installer and then click 'try xubuntu'
[23:01] <jphilips> see that it is there in 20.04, but not in the 21.04 daily
[23:51] <bluesabre> Yeah, packaging is the easy part. Since Xfce does have automated tests now, we're a bit more compatible with MRE requirements (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#New_upstream_microreleases). We still need to do SRE paperwork and testing.
[23:51] <bluesabre> > The upstream QA process must be documented/demonstrated and linked from the SRU tracking bug. In other cases where such upstream automatic testing is not available, exceptions must still be approved by at least one member of the Ubuntu Technical Board. 
[23:52] <bluesabre> If we have volunteers for testing, I'm happy to do the documentation and uploads
[23:52] <bluesabre> In the past, SRUs have been less than ideal since getting testers for the SRU packages was difficult
[23:53] <bluesabre> I think we even had some that we uploaded but ultimately expired :o
[23:53] <jphilips> volunteers can easily be gotten. i think we have 2 or 3 on the telegram group who'd gladly do it, including me
[23:57] <bluesabre> Awesome. Then I'll work on getting everything together and uploaded this weekend.
[23:58] <jphilips> thanks. if i remember, we had some QA ppa, so will the packages go there first