[22:12] <cactus123> hello. i hope i'm the right place
[22:13] <cactus123> i'm trying to remove snap but i'm not sure how will it affect my system
[22:14] <gnrp> cactus123: It depends on whether you have packages installed that require snap
[22:14] <gnrp> cactus123: If you just try uninstalling it, you will see a list of packages that depend on it and would also get removed. You can still decide to cancel the action, then
[22:14] <Unit193> Can you run `snap list` or `snap info` to see what's installed?
[22:14] <cactus123> i have gnome-3-28-1804 and gtk-common-themes listed there. does removing them have negative impact
[22:15] <Unit193> If you are using Xubuntu, then not really no.
[22:15] <Unit193> If you're using GNOME or something like that, I have no idea.  That first one seems a bit odd to me.
[22:15] <cactus123> so if i remove them, i can still access my DE as usual?
[22:16] <gnrp> cactus123: It is in Xubuntu only required for few certain packages, like the chromium browser
[22:16] <cactus123> ahhh
[22:16] <cactus123> i did install chromium
[22:16] <cactus123> with snap
[22:17] <Unit193> Xubuntu doesn't actually ship with any snaps in and of itself, on upgrades software-center tries to convert itself to a snap though.
[22:18] <cactus123> ahhhh no wonder. so it got into my system because i install chromium through ubuntu apt?
[22:18] <gnrp> cactus123: Pretty likely
[22:18]  * gnrp got so fed up with snap not being able to use a different directory than ~/snap that I uninstalled it as well
[22:19] <cactus123> ok i thing i start to understand. i'm a very new user. not familiar with command line and all
[22:19] <cactus123> using ubuntu as my laptop is aging
[22:20] <cactus123> ok. i'm gonna try. worst thing is i just had to reinstall with liveusb
[22:20] <cactus123> thank for the help both of you :)
[22:20] <gnrp> cactus123: removign snap is safe to the xubuntu system itself
[22:20] <cactus123> i will follow the instruction online
[22:24] <cactus123> oh before i get to that, i was wondering about snap auto-update. specifically how large is the update file is. as i understand, the regular installation file for any snap package is very large, is the auto-update large too? my concern since i'm on limited data connection
[22:26] <gnrp> can't help you with that, sorry. But indeed, the principle of snap is that the packages are bigger
[22:29] <cactus123> ok thanks :)
[22:29] <xu-help29w> Hi - any suggestions for an easy way to install a new xubuntu version alongside my existing install, without having to make a boot disk?
[22:31] <Unit193> Depends on how much ram you have.
[22:42] <xu-help29w> i started googling ram disks, but it looked more complicated than digging a usb key out of a drawer somewhere
[22:42] <xu-help29w> thank you though :)
[22:43] <Unit193> Actually I was just going with: install grub-rescueboot, pop the iso into /boot/grml/ and run update-grub, reboot and select the new ISO at the grub menu, but ensure 'toram' is passed as an option.
[22:48] <cactus123> successfully removing snap without ill effect after reboot :)
[22:48] <gnrp> cactus123: Congrats! ;)
[22:58] <cactus123> yeah i see it now
[22:58] <cactus123> when i want to install chromium through apt, it also want to install snapd
[22:59] <Unit193> Because chromium no longer exists in the repo, yep.