 @Atti [Hey! Anyone in here to have ubuntu touch on TCL phone?], Any TCL phone would need to be ported -please note that if they came with Android 10 or 11 that this would be very difficult to do though.  Info on how to do this is at http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html … and … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/port
[00:58] <ubptgbot> ing/Intro.html … Also http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/halium_9/Halium_9_GSI_porting.html
[01:13] <ubptgbot> Li ZHOU was added by: Li ZHOU
[01:14] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> anyone knows how to use spflashtool . ineed to unlock mezu mx4ś bootloader.
 Uh does this help? … https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/install.html#install-on-legacy-android-devices
[01:29] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> @Fuseteam [Uh does this help? … https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/install.html#ins …], tried it but spflashtool does not work as described. after i connect usb cable to computer nothing happens.
 That might be caused by modem manager
 [Edit] That might be caused by modem-manager
[01:37] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> @Fuseteam [That might be caused by modem-manager], how to get around it?
 First if all what is your host OS ?
[01:56] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> @Fuseteam [First if all what is your host OS ?], fedora 30
[02:00] <ubptgbot> Binky888 was added by: Binky888
 @Li ZHOU [fedora 30], Do you see any logs when you see 'nothing happening'?
[02:28] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> @Fuseteam [Do you see any logs when you see 'nothing happening'?], Connecting to BROM... … Scanning USB port... … Search usb, timeout set as 3600000 ms … remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/tty/ttyACM0 … open VID device failed! … unbind@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.1 … unbind@/devices/pci0000:00/000
[02:28] <ubptgbot> 0:00:14.0/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0 … remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0 … remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.1 … unbind@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-2 … remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-2 … add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-2 … add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0
[02:28] <ubptgbot>  … add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/tty/ttyACM0 … vid is 0e8d … device vid = 0e8d … pid is 0003 … device pid = 0003 … com portName is: /dev/ttyACM0 … Total wait time = -1615083957.000000 … USB port is obtained. path name(/dev/ttyACM0), port name(/dev/ttyACM0) … USB port detected: /dev/ttyACM0
[02:38] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> still nothing happens
 @Li ZHOU [Connecting to BROM... … Scanning USB port... … Search usb, timeout set as 3600000 ms …], 'open VID device failed' that's  the issue I think
 Can you check if `modem-manager` is installed? If it is remove it and try again
[02:59] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> @Fuseteam [Can you check if modem-manager is installed? If it is remove it and try again], i already did that.
[03:00] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> same issue as this forum thread https://www.avforums.com/threads/stuck-in-usb-port-smart-phone-flash-tool.2249574/
 Anyone knows if there's a way to control the audio of an android phone from UT, like vía Bluetooth?
 I want to use the old android one to reproduce music without directly messing with it all day, just bringing the other one out
[03:04] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> ERROR : S_BROM_CMD_STARTCMD_FAIL (2005) … [BROM] Can not pass bootrom start command! Possibly target power up too early. … [HINT]:
 @Fuseteam [Can you check if modem-manager is installed? If it is remove it and try again], We don't use that though
 @dohbee [We don't use that though], spflashtool conflicts with modemmanager on desktops
 @Li ZHOU [same issue as this forum thread https://www.avforums.com/threads/stuck-in-usb-po …], Hmmm
 @dohbee [We don't use that though], What Dalton says :p
 Seems something else is conflicting this time tho
 @Li ZHOU [ERROR : S_BROM_CMD_STARTCMD_FAIL (2005) … [BROM] Can not pass bootrom start comma …], Wait is the phone powered off?
 @the_cave_dweller [Anyone knows if there's a way to control the audio of an android phone from UT, …], I know you can use ut as a bluetooth speaker to android but not how to control it, I think there's a standard to it tho 🤔
 I couldn't find it anything yet
 Yes, the speaker thing was curious
 [Edit] I couldn't find anything yet
 Maybe I'll use one of those chinese smart watch to control it if I cant find something, Im still trying to get the dacs working here or on Sailfish
 Sailfish does seem to contain some usb audio rules and a module for detecting devices, but the module bootlooped, and in ubuntu I couldn't find fome files similar to the ones sailfish used
 Could some desktop linux pulseaudio configs help?
 I think the speaker thing is inherited from desktop Linux, it acts roughly the same way in my experience
 I wouldn't mess with pulseaudio configs tho
 I mean, I'm happy because aplay -L shows them at least
 Maybe adding rules similar to the other system, that arent there?
 Yeah but pulseaudio is uh complicated afaict
 Idk, I could really wait without issues to see how things evolve surely
 Im just being curious
 I suppose you could, with ut the rootfs is readonly for one so you could reset but not everything is readonly
 Call audio and such are also handled by pulseaudio iiuc
 So uh I'm not sure how much you could mess up your install
 But iiuc you just want use ut as a remote for android right?
 I may try to copy some stuff later, I mean, I mess it frecuently this days 😂
 At the moment I got the idea, because android can use the dac, but it's not really that important
 Thanks for the help btw
 @mateosalta [doesn't seem to work with lg tv, or with v1 of microsoft adapter], Thanks for your effort to check. Will wait it out of buy a device that supports.
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 Is this something we expect to see downstream on the ub touch os ??  … https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/03/ubuntu-building-apps-with-flutter-in-future
 [Edit] Is this something we expect to see available  downstream on the ub touch os ??  … https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/03/ubuntu-building-apps-with-flutter-in-future
 Si there anything preventing flutter from working in ubtouch?
 It has worked on linux desktop for a while
 Yes. Afaik it requires Wayland support and a rather new version of GTK.
 so we need to wait for focal
 @just_carlod [so we need to wait for focal], Dont expect this will land 100% in the 20.04 update
 @just_carlod [so we need to wait for focal], would you like to test a kernel for jasmeme?
 @just_carlod [so we need to wait for focal], [Edit] would you like to test a halium kernel for jasmeme?
 @just_carlod [so we need to wait for focal], [Edit] would you like to test a halium kernel for jasmeme? It boots fine though, haven't got time to check anything else
 ok, where can I find the artifact?
 @just_carlod [ok, where can I find the artifact?], https://gitlab.com/shoukolate/xiaomi-jasmine_sprout_android-10/-/jobs/1078682240/artifacts/file/out/boot.img
 @just_carlod [ok, where can I find the artifact?], let me know if you are able to launch apps like morph
 isn't that for A10?
 I don't see any benefits of halium-10, but I can try it
 @NotKit [isn't that for A10?], yes, but boots on android 9
 @NotKit [isn't that for A10?], also halium-10 booted with exception of some apps not launching + splash screen being black
 @NotKit [isn't that for A10?], [Edit] also halium-10 booted fine with exception of some apps not launching + splash screen being black
 @NotKit [isn't that for A10?], [Edit] yes, but also boots on android 9
 seems to go as on other devices then
 @DarknessHiddenorg debugged some of AppArmor problems preventing app launch
 basically /apex/* needs to be added to AppArmor rules
 @NotKit [basically /apex/* needs to be added to AppArmor rules], I generated rules though, it had some differences as compared to halium 9
 AppArmor, not udev
 @NotKit [AppArmor, not udev], is there a apex changes commit for reference?
 @NotKit [AppArmor, not udev], [Edit] is there an apex changes commit for reference?
 hmm, I don't see no difference
 should I do factory reset?
 btw, recovery reset doesn't work on mi a2
 @just_carlod [btw, recovery reset doesn't work on mi a2], with newer kernel or with old kernel too?
 @just_carlod [btw, recovery reset doesn't work on mi a2], [Edit] with newer kernel only or with old kernel too?
 I tested it with newer kernel
 @just_carlod [I tested it with newer kernel], Can you build halium 10 recovery? :P
 does it really matter?
 @just_carlod [does it really matter?], yes, sooner or later I plan to base system to halium 10 for jasmine for newer device blobs
 @just_carlod [does it really matter?], [Edit] yes, sooner or later I plan to update base system to halium 10 for jasmine for newer device blobs
 ok
 @just_carlod [ok], basically better security and maybe some performance improvements, also our current halium 9 kernel src for jasmine is a huge frankenstein
 I noticed it while applying kernel patches
 I see 😂
 @just_carlod [I see 😂], sorry for tagging you again, but please use official los 17.1 trees for recovery configs, instead of sdm660-org
 ok
 @lackingcheesepuffs [Can you build halium 10 recovery? :P], em, that's not even done yet
 but please move to porting channel
 ah sorry for spamming
 Does Ubports accept donations in BCH?
 @ee [Does Ubports accept donations in BCH?], Yes it does: https://ubports.com/donate
 Thanks for your response, but I only see BTC and not BCH or other crypto. BTC has high fees, so if I want to send 100 usd I might have to pay another 20usd in fees, while in BCH it would be only 0,001 usd in fees
 Sorry, I was unaware of the difference.
 [Edit] Sorry, my mistake, I was unaware of the difference.
 BCH is bitcoin cash, which aims to be useful for payments as well as store of value, while bitcoin BTC is only good for the latter . And the more I waste in network fees, the less that I can give to developers
 If Ubports still wants BTC, they can easily convert the BCH I send to BTC, for example using sideshift.ai, and it would be cheaper than me sending BTC directly
 @ee [Does Ubports accept donations in BCH?], A week ago i was thinking about that too. Fees are too high on BTC
 Right. I donated BTC to Ubports some weeks ago, and lost a lot of money in fees. It would be easy for developers to have a BCH wallet and shift to BTC if they prefer
 I mean, why can't you just do that now, rather than demand ubports do it?
 The stated problem is that the bitcoin network charges more fees and the bitcoin cash network charges less
 I can ask, but I don't think I'll find much interest from the accountants.
 @UniversalSuperBox [I can ask, but I don't think I'll find much interest from the accountants.], The problem is we cannot cash out directly to our bank account, since our bank is against receiving money from.unknown sources :) we try to stay clear as much as possible from that, its money that cannot be used for paying developers etc. If y
[15:35] <ubptgbot> ou donate in BTC this can only be used by Marius personally
[15:42] <ubptgbot> Nirupam81350 was added by: Nirupam81350
 Oh, I see. For developers it could still be useful without banks in the middle, as it is basically electronic cash, and it gets more value in the long term, like for personal savings, as well as to sell p2p or use online
 I guess that network services like VPNs, VMs, etc could be bought with crypto as well. Dont know which other resources does Ubports need to buy appart from developers, as i have never worked in such a complex  enterprise as OS development
 @ee [I guess that network services like VPNs, VMs, etc could be bought with crypto as …], We are a charitable foundation under German law, its not possible to use crypto on regular base since its not a recognized tender in the EU.
[16:07] <ubptgbot> Felipecconde was added by: Felipecconde
 hi
 I want to ubport my motorola one fusion
 what will happen with the camera notch?
 plz
 somneone can help me?
 (Photo, 720x694) https://irc.ubports.com/Kis7Xe1J.png
 (Photo, 1257x1233) https://irc.ubports.com/I2bC4uYz.png
 I want to ubport my motorola one fusion
 what will happen with the camera notch?
 (Photo, 720x694) https://irc.ubports.com/mY2ggYH8.png
 somneone can help me?
 (Photo, 1257x1233) https://irc.ubports.com/7wgfLxsv.png
 plz
 You would first have to create a port for that phone.
 notches are not well supported currently. UT is not an Android ROM
[16:16] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> @Fuseteam [Wait is the phone powered off?], yes
 @Li ZHOU [yes], Odd if the phone is off when you run the tool, I have no idea currently what could cause that
[17:15] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> @Fuseteam [Odd if the phone is off when you run the tool, I have no idea currently what cou …], i am trying an alternative method。
 Kay
 @ee [Thanks for your response, but I only see BTC and not BCH or other crypto. BTC ha …], Why would you pay $20 in transaction fees? Even in the last couple of days I never payed more then 5 and usually less than 1.
 @ulrichard [Why would you pay $20 in transaction fees? Even in the last couple of days I nev …], It's beyond user control. It depends on the network's congestion of the moment. My luck is arround 10-20usd . You can lower the fee to some degree, but as the blocksize is small, the transaction could not get included if you do
 And btc can never beat 0,001 usd
 @dohbee [notches are not well supported currently. UT is not an Android ROM], fuck
 and what can i do?
 @Felipecconde [fuck], chill, it's not that big a deal
 why?
 you can port your device and help work on a solution for dealing with notches
 if it doesnt supports the notch i cant install it because my notch will stay on top of the screen and I will not be able to use the ut correctly
 @dohbee [you can port your device and help work on a solution for dealing with notches], but im not a developer
 why wouldn't you be able to use it correctly? plenty of people are using UT on devices with a notch right now
 because...
 obviously the notch won't move, it's physical
 imagine it:
 wait, i will send a image
 it's just a slight annoyance in a few small cases
[18:00] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> I thought there was an unofficial patch to fix the notch thing in UT?
 but what if i need to click on something that is on top of the screen? or else it will cover my notification bar and the icons will be hidden under the camera
 @X YZ [I thought there was an unofficial patch to fix the notch thing in UT?], there is an unofficial thing specific to vollaphone
 @Felipecconde [but what if i need to click on something that is on top of the screen? or else i …], the top bar swipes down and you can then use things
 as i said, it's only a slight annoyance. just tapping directly on the top panel doesn't really do anything
 with ubports will i be able to continue using my phone for calls, sms, camera, etc? my phone has several cameras, will only one of them work? will my microphone work? what do i do if i want to go back to my original android rom (go back to my phone's original state)?
 @dohbee [as i said, it's only a slight annoyance. just tapping directly on the top panel …], ok, you convinced me
 @Felipecconde [with ubports will i be able to continue using my phone for calls, sms, camera, e …], well first you'd have to create a port for your device, as it is not supported
[18:03] <ubptgbot> Павел Абай 2 was added by: Павел Абай 2
 would utports be slow on a snapdragon with 4 ram?
[18:03] <ubptgbot> <Павел Абай 2> where are ubports temporary files stored?  ubuntu
 but switching back to android is just as easy as flashing the factory image instead
 @Felipecconde [would utports be slow on a snapdragon with 4 ram?], the OS is Ubuntu Touch. and no it probably would not be "slow" on that device
 @dohbee [well first you'd have to create a port for your device, as it is not supported], as I said, im not a developer
[18:04] <ubptgbot> <Павел Абай 2> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/4jA0MQhI.png
 @Felipecconde [as I said, im not a developer], then you will have to wait until someone else with that phone makes a port i guess. though plenty ports were done by people who are not developers
 @Павел Абай 2 [<reply to media>], screenshots are not particularly helpful, especially when they do not show the complete error message
 @dohbee [but switching back to android is just as easy as flashing the factory image inst …], there you are, I'm a noob in exchange for a rom. the first and last time i tried to root my phone, i ended up formatting the internal memory of my phone and went a year without it trying to restore
 had to use an old android phone 4.4.4
 @Felipecconde [there you are, I'm a noob in exchange for a rom. the first and last time i tried …], Ubuntu Touch is not a ROM
 @dohbee [the OS is Ubuntu Touch. and no it probably would not be "slow" on that device], why did you write with quotes in the word "slow"?
 @Felipecconde [why did you write with quotes in the word "slow"?], because it's a subjective term which means different things for different people
 @dohbee [Ubuntu Touch is not a ROM], i know
 but android is
 and you're asking about a relatively new device
 and if i want to restore to android, i will need to install a android rom
 @dohbee [and you're asking about a relatively new device], yes
 i bought it in 2 months ago lol
[18:08] <ubptgbot> <Павел Абай 2> @dohbee [screenshots are not particularly helpful, especially when they do not show the c …], sorry, but I can't attach the full text.  The error is that the program cannot find the sw binaries file in its temporary files.  I wanted to slip them by hand.  But for this you need to know where the cache is stored
[18:09] <ubptgbot> <Павел Абай 2> @Павел Абай 2 [sorry, but I can't attach the full text.  The error is that the program cannot f …], p.s.  search in the system did not give any result
 @Felipecconde [would utports be slow on a snapdragon with 4 ram?], that's actually quite high specs compared to most of the supported devices
 @Flohack [The problem is we cannot cash out directly to our bank account, since our bank i …], yeesh, marius is a millionaire almost (or should be if he had just let it sit there a while ;)
[18:12] <ubptgbot> <Павел Абай 2> @Павел Абай 2 [sorry, but I can't attach the full text.  The error is that the program cannot f …], help please .... the phone is already formatted ... there is no way back ...
[18:14] <ubptgbot> wouter182 was added by: wouter182
 @Павел Абай 2 [help please .... the phone is already formatted ... there is no way back ...], Sorry, I'm not sure where exactly the cache is. But I would presume it should be under `~/.cache/`
 Does someone know how to disable the Bluetooth part in ubuntu touch (D-bus commands).  … I don't know why I don't get Bluetooth to work with my speaker.  … After connection is disconnects immediately in bluetoothctl. … Sometimes I think it is due to other d-bus commands from system settings? Pulseaudio? Someone any suggestion? … ```> HC
[18:22] <ubptgbot> I Event: Connect Complete (0x03) plen 11                     #15 [hci0] 42.188447 …         Status: Page Timeout (0x04) …         Handle: 1 …         Address: C0:7A:A5:00:50:98 (OUI C0-7A-A5) …         Link type: ACL (0x01) …         Encryption: Disabled (0x00) … @ MGMT Event: Connect Failed (0x000d) plen 8                  {0x0002} [hci0] 42.18852
[18:22] <ubptgbot> 3 …         BR/EDR Address: C0:7A:A5:00:50:98 (OUI C0-7A-A5) …         Status: Connect Failed (0x04) … @ MGMT Event: Connect Failed (0x000d) plen 8                  {0x0001} [hci0] 42.188523 …         BR/EDR Address: C0:7A:A5:00:50:98 (OUI C0-7A-A5) …         Status: Connect Failed (0x04) … @ MGMT Event: Command Complete (0x0001) plen 10     {0x000
[18:22] <ubptgbot> 1} [hci0] 42.188555 …       Pair Device (0x0019) plen 7 …         Status: Connect Failed (0x04) …         BR/EDR Address: C0:7A:A5:00:50:98 (OUI C0-7A-A5)```
[18:23] <ubptgbot> <Павел Абай 2> @dohbee [Sorry, I'm not sure where exactly the cache is. But I would presume it should be …], helped installing the image manually, through the command line.  thank)
 i highly doubt it has anything to do with system settings (nor the indicator)
 you could try to stop the indicator but i doubt it will change anything
 @dohbee [you could try to stop the indicator but i doubt it will change anything], How could you do that?
 `stop indicator-bluetooth` iirc
 @dohbee [yeesh, marius is a millionaire almost (or should be if he had just let it sit th …], Well bad news is, the huge doantion in BTC that we had, we had to sell it last year. The income is still okayish but was far from what we would have gotten now. But German government wanted this part of our endowment capital to be "legalized", i.
[18:28] <ubptgbot> e. see it on our bank account. So yes... bad luck
 @dohbee [stop indicator-bluetooth iirc], You are right, no influence. Other suggestions? … Both my laptop and pinephone run Bluez 5.53. Laptop works pinephone not. … In dmesg on the pinephone I see ```debugfs: File 'force_bredr_smp' in directory 'hci0' already present!``` and the output of I sent above.  … But I don't where it could be
[18:36] <ubptgbot> wrong....
 @wouter182 [You are right, no influence. Other suggestions? … Both my laptop and pinephone run …], no idea. could be an issue with bluetooth controller? or kernel driver?
[18:40] <ubptgbot> William was added by: William
 @Flohack [Well bad news is, the huge doantion in BTC that we had, we had to sell it last y …], Ouch! So govt basically stole from you, just because they like banks and don't understand or like crypto
 @ee [Ouch! So govt basically stole from you, just because they like banks and don't u …], Thats basically not true, and also offtopic so we stop here
 Ok, sorry
 @dohbee [no idea. could be an issue with bluetooth controller? or kernel driver?], I thought there was a list somewhere with the required defconfig options for bluetooth in ubuntu touch. I will search the internet and compare that with the current defconfig I use.
 @ee [And btc can never beat 0,001 usd], No problem with lightning.
 @ulrichard [No problem with lightning.], Is it actually working, and widespread? You still need common channels to get to the receipent, right?
 Not as widespread as I'd like, but probably more widespread than BCH. What do you mean by common channels?
 guys, this group is about Ubuntu Touch. please take the off topic conversation to PM or elsewhere. thanks
 @dohbee [guys, this group is about Ubuntu Touch. please take the off topic conversation t …], Sorry, offtopic again. My bad 🙏
 The reason i started talking about btc was to know how to support Ubuntu Touch development, so my only question will be this: do you actually receive and find useful a donation that way?
 i think they have to be exchanged to cash to be put in the bank almost immediately anyway, so it's generally better to just send cash; particularly with how crazy btc fees can be
 @wouter182 [I thought there was a list somewhere with the required defconfig options for blu …], I got it working now, the only thing is I don't know how... Started bluetooth and pulseaudio with debug commands, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingBluetooth 🙈
 @wouter182 [I thought there was a list somewhere with the required defconfig options for blu …], [Edit] I got it working now, the only thing is, I don't know how... Started bluetooth and pulseaudio with debug commands, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingBluetooth 🙈
 @WelcomePlayerOne [Wait so with libertine how can one enter a terminal mode with it given I want it …], Or install Gnome or MATE terminal to get one exactly like the one you'd have on a traditional Linux distro.
 @dohbee [there is an unofficial thing specific to vollaphone], IIRC the code had a section to cater for at least one other notched phone.
 Yup:
 Supported devices …     Volla Phone …     OnePlus 6/6T …     Xiaomi Poco F
 @Flohack [Well bad news is, the huge doantion in BTC that we had, we had to sell it last y …], Did you have to sell them as soon as you received each transaction, or in one giant lump sum?
 @TartanSpartan [Did you have to sell them as soon as you received each transaction, or in one gi …], block explorer gives a good picture
 [Edit] Supported devices …     Volla Phone …     OnePlus 6/6T …     Xiaomi Poco F
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/6Sy6hikt.webp
 @TartanSpartan [Did you have to sell them as soon as you received each transaction, or in one gi …], "We" as foundation are not receiving BTC officially, its going into Marius and funds his development mainly
 @TartanSpartan [Or install Gnome or MATE terminal to get one exactly like the one you'd have on …], but why would you, the ut terminal isn't exactly less powerfull and more convergent
[20:12] <ubptgbot> <Павел Абай 2> how can i install android apps?
 android apps don't run on Ubuntu Touch
 some devices can run anbox, which provides a very limited method of running some android apps in a container
 it is not the same as running android apps natively on android
 @Fuseteam [but why would you, the ut terminal isn't exactly less powerfull and more converg …], There are some use cases, for example with Tizonia it's just easier to have a password and username for Spotify get read in from a file and save the user from having to input them manually.
 @TartanSpartan [There are some use cases, for example with Tizonia it's just easier to have a pa …], i don't see how using a different terminal app affects that
 @Павел Абай 2 [how can i install android apps?], with anbox
[20:16] <ubptgbot> <Павел Абай 2> @dohbee [some devices can run anbox, which provides a very limited method of running some …], sad ... will have to return the android ...
 or android emulator
 @TartanSpartan [There are some use cases, for example with Tizonia it's just easier to have a pa …], Tizonia? So cli applications?
 but there are only paid emulators for linux
 ^ Yes.
 at least as far as I know
[20:17] <ubptgbot> <Павел Абай 2> @Felipecconde [or android emulator], how can i install it?
 and for some reason the linux community doesn't like to pirate :(
 @Felipecconde [but there are only paid emulators for linux], the question is about Ubuntu Touch. this isn't a general linux discussion group
 @Felipecconde [but there are only paid emulators for linux], Wat?
 a disadvantage compared to the windows community
 please don't lead people the wrong direction
 @Павел Абай 2 [how can i install it?], search on youtube: android emulator on linux
 @Felipecconde [a disadvantage compared to the windows community], weird comment from someone with a buddha avatar, but please stay on topic
 please stop sending people to the wrong places @Felipecconde
 I think for some reason you had to be in root to use Tizonia from the UT app (it just wouldn't cooperate with `libertine-container-manager`) and root wouldn't read the credentials file automagically like a Libertine terminal did.
 @TartanSpartan [^ Yes.], Hmm I think somewhat see what you mean 🤔
 @dohbee [weird comment from someone with a buddha avatar, but please stay on topic], pirating is not a bad thing, you will not be stealing. man, tell me, have you ever used activation serials for windows or have you installed any unlocked apk on your android
 don't be hypocritical, at least one torrent you've already downloaded
 everyone has done it
 use an adblock for example
 @Felipecconde [a disadvantage compared to the windows community], Wat? Stop spreading confusion
 to block youtube ads
 well, I did, but Rodney just tells it's offtopic here
 @Felipecconde [pirating is not a bad thing, you will not be stealing. man, tell me, have you ev …], if you can't stay on topic,, i will have to mute you
 you are talking about android
 you are also on the offtopic
 Pirating is condoned by anyone and severely offf topic
 The clunkiness of said terminal can be mitigated by setting up the method by which `!!` can grab prior commands (so you don't miss the up/down keys so much) and of course a tablet with a keyboard case or just a phone with some sort of keyboard closes the gap between such a terminal and the UT terminal further.
 we're talking about Ubuntu Touch here :)
 and what's wrong with changing the topic? you will not be forever off topic, stop being boring guys
 @TartanSpartan [The clunkiness of said terminal can be mitigated by setting up the method by whi …], Yup - having a Bluetooth keyboard handy makes these things on a phone form factor way easier to do.
 But for a phone, on the go without accessories, you'd need the `!!` to quickly grab a Tizonia command and kick off cloud music super conveniently.
 @Felipecconde [pirating is not a bad thing, you will not be stealing. man, tell me, have you ev …], All I'd say is I'd rather pay for software to limit my vulnerability to malware on Windows.
 @TartanSpartan [The clunkiness of said terminal can be mitigated by setting up the method by whi …], Uh well arrows are available in the ut terminal, the real use case is just making cli apps more easily installable and usable
 @Felipecconde [and what's wrong with changing the topic? you will not be forever off topic, sto …], Because this is a very specifically targeted board by DESIGN. The point is to have all discussion being related exactly to Ubuntu Touch so that those that seek support for it can find info without sorting through a bunch of unrelated con
[20:23] <ubptgbot> versations.   There is the Ubports Overflow Telegram group for all other topics,
 @Felipecconde [and what's wrong with changing the topic? you will not be forever off topic, sto …], muted, and then banned for PM attack
 @Felipecconde [and what's wrong with changing the topic? you will not be forever off topic, sto …], [Edit] Because this is a very specifically targeted board by DESIGN. The point is to have all discussion being related exactly to Ubuntu Touch so that those that seek support for it can find info without sorting through a bunch of unrela
[20:23] <ubptgbot> ted conversations.   There is the Ubports Overflow Telegram group for all other topics,  https://t.me/UBportsOF
 @Fuseteam [Uh well arrows are available in the ut terminal, the real use case is just makin …], Yes I know but as I say if you have to use a Libertine terminal, you don't get those nice arrows and other interface aids, so you make do with what yo can.
 Yeah that's the part of making it easier to install and use cli applications
 Right now we need a not so memorable command to use libertine cli apps
 Hi. How to use audio message?
 But if the terminal doesn't play nice with the CLI, forcing me to reenter credentials every time, you bet your life I'll fire up a desktop-oriented terminal and throw some `!!`'s for swift playback ;)
 @Gog_and_Magog [Hi. How to use audio message?], Huh?
 @TartanSpartan [But if the terminal doesn't play nice with the CLI, forcing me to reenter creden …], I mean I'm sure ut terminal can pipe files just fine
 I will elaborate further in my "how to install Tizonia on UT guide" which I hope to come back to pretty soon.
 Sounds good
 I'll look at the piping again just in case UT terminal can manage all of it.
 @Fuseteam [Huh?], Clicking on the icon, and what next? Swipe doesn't help
 @TartanSpartan [I'll look at the piping again just in case UT terminal can manage all of it.], Pretty it can yes
 Was that a Yoda comment? :P
 @Gog_and_Magog [Clicking on the icon, and what next? Swipe doesn't help], Sorry I lack context, what are you trying to do
 Or did you mean to say "pretty sure it can yes"?
 @TartanSpartan [Was that a Yoda comment? :P], It was, maybe
 @TartanSpartan [Or did you mean to say "pretty sure it can yes"?], Or that :p
 I shared this pic to the Overflow group, but figure it should be ok to cross post it to here  - LG G Watch R running Asteroid OS 1.1, and receiving notifications from my Volla Phone running UT, synced via the Telescope app.  Thanks to @stefwe for his awesome work on enabling sync of UT with Asteroid.  :)
 (Photo, 1920x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/kQRw0ejk.png
 @Fuseteam [Sorry I lack context, what are you trying to do], I press into the teleport on the microphone icon, and what to do next?
 @Gog_and_Magog [I press into the teleport on the microphone icon, and what to do next?], record your message and press send
 There ya go
 Wait is that broken 🤔
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/ZU0zyE0S.png
 Hmm
 Can't seem to send what it records hmm
 hmmm, just tested it out - it does seem that it is broken - at least for sending to Groups, should test it out for personal contact
 (Voice, 3s) https://irc.ubports.com/iMN0zsmM.oga
 Ah
 @TotalSonic [record your message and press send], No "send". When you let go, everything disappears
 @Gog_and_Magog [No "send". When you let go, everything disappears], yup, confirm that behavior.  It used to work
 Permission check you mic permissions in settings karl
 @Gog_and_Magog [No "send". When you let go, everything disappears], [Edit] yup, I can confirm that behavior.  It used to work
 (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/Hn7qOZNO.png Pebble getting notifs from OpO running UT, synced using Rockworks app which is awesome!
 [Edit] Permissions! check you mic permissions in settings karl
 @klaartje_b [<reply to media>], nice :)
 @Fuseteam [Permissions! check you mic permissions in settings karl], going to check mine now as well
 So settings> security & privacy > app permissions > microphone
 (Voice, 1s) https://irc.ubports.com/Gy45GsvX.oga
 @Fuseteam [Permissions! check you mic permissions in settings karl], @gog_and_magog ^^
 @Fuseteam [So settings> security & privacy > app permissions > microphone], yup, mine was off for Teleports.  Will retest now
 (Voice, 6s) https://irc.ubports.com/Vd0G44X0.oga
 Yup same here
 it's working!
 indeed xD
 Praise @Flohack !!  👍😊
 it should have asked for permissions though
 @Fuseteam [@gog_and_magog ^^], Lol! Yes:)
 @dohbee [it should have asked for permissions though], Once denied it doesn't and fails silently
 i guess that's true. should ask again though if you try to use it again
 (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/U8o75uU0.png Pebble getting notifs from OpO running UT, synced using Rockwork app which is awesome!
 @TotalSonic [Praise @Flohack !!  👍😊], Thx lol
 I guess it should yeah
 @dohbee [i guess that's true. should ask again though if you try to use it again], agreed, a prompt in those circumstances would be helpful
 Flohack The Teleporter!
 @Fuseteam [Flohack The Teleporter!], hahaha awesome ^^
 XD
 And the sound recording worked, and the video with sound ... damn, how could I do this .. because I turned everything off myself, thanks:)
 For what it's worth - here's the results the security test up at https://coveryoutracks.eff.org of all the browsers I have on my Volla Phone
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0owYi1m6.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/dsfRXydN.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/AI0rJwLZ.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/v0Zqnt6G.png
 [Edit] For what it's worth - here's the results the security test up at https://coveryoutracks.eff.org of all the browsers I have on my Volla Phone with uAdBlock enabled.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/yS0tMEpV.png
[21:20] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> is there any fix for this problem?    the installer can not reboot the device from fastboot mode to recovery. as indicated by this web page, https://iubuntu.cz/dualboot-mx4.html
[21:21] <ubptgbot> <Li ZHOU> Please note that Ubports guide for MX4 is not precise and there is no way to reboot to recovery from fastboot. You will first need to install the recovery and then reboot to it and use this command to install Ubports:
[21:22] <ubptgbot> alvarezrrj was added by: alvarezrrj
 Hi guys, I leave a gift from our friend Enrique,
 I'm going to flash this group now,
 (Photo, 1080x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/7u3AzocF.png
 (Photo, 996x878) https://irc.ubports.com/ghumhS9g.png
 Which of these two images do you like more?
 the Yumi in black
 (Sticker, 512x506) https://irc.ubports.com/AXGlHwnW.webp
 @Josele13 [<reply to media>], LOL, that's cute
 @Josele13 [<reply to media>], The android phone puts Yumi in black into the background here.
 The other one seems better to me.
 (Sticker, 512x390) https://irc.ubports.com/vcPtFyJn.webp
 @Josele13 [<reply to media>], cool stickers 👀
 Nice regardless.
 @Danfro [The other one seems better to me.], ok
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/aSmbm0zm.webp
 Now you know who to call to flash
 hahahahaha
 Enrique is going to make a sticker with one of these images.
 Ok, this is perfect
 (Sticker, 511x512) https://irc.ubports.com/bYZ00bTS.webp
 Hehehehe
 Haha, I do not use Android. Never did.
 I've used PrivateOS and LineageOS. Both Android-based but not quite Android. Now it's all UT all the time.
 But very nice stickers. Already thinking where to place it first. 😉
 Anyone have a Canonical image for BQ10 HD 'Cooler'?
 @klaartje_b [I've used PrivateOS and LineageOS. Both Android-based but not quite Android. Now …], out of interest, what device(s) do you use UT on all the time?
 @Stereofont [Anyone have a Canonical image for BQ10 HD 'Cooler'?], is it related ? https://github.com/ubports/docs.ubports.com/issues/388
 @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], Can I have a link from the github or is there a clickable one?
 @Mokmeister [out of interest, what device(s) do you use UT on all the time?], OpO, and hopefully soon a Lenovo Tab M10 Plus.
 @klaartje_b [OpO, and hopefully soon a Lenovo Tab M10 Plus.], thanks!
[22:53] <today911> Hey! Would anyone know if FDroid (and other android apps) run well on UBPorts?
[22:53] <today911> (I meant, on Ubuntu Touch)
 @today911 [Hey! Would anyone know if FDroid (and other android apps) run well on UBPorts?], No, Android apps do not run directly on UT. Some of them can run on Anbox but there are limitations.
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/VP1wQQ6d.png
 @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], Hoh
 @Gog_and_Magog [Hoh], what device are you using?  The click I have is for arm64
 @Gog_and_Magog [Hoh], Maybe @mateosalta can provide you links to the Git for this
 If you are on an arm64 device, I just opened the click file from the File Manager, chose Open Store to open it with, and it installed without an issue.  On Volla - OTA-16 RC
 @TotalSonic [what device are you using?  The click I have is for arm64], Nexus5
 @Gog_and_Magog [Nexus5], The click I have will not work because you need an armhf version
 @Gog_and_Magog [Nexus5], [Edit] The click I have will not work because you need an armhf version for the Nexus 5
 @mateosalta [<reply to media>], ok, found it
 @Gog_and_Magog [Nexus5], Karl - see link above for the armhf version