[01:16] <callmepk> good morning
[01:29] <duflu> Morning callmepk 
[01:37] <callmepk> morning duflu 
[02:44] <pieq> Hey!
[02:58] <duflu> Hey pieq 
[03:02] <pieq> g'day duflu ! How is it going?
[03:02] <duflu> Going ok. How about you, pieq ?
[03:14] <pieq> duflu, not too bad! No rain today, so I could bike to work :)
[04:00] <callmepk> hi duflu pieq 
[04:09] <KGB-0> mutter signed tags 1429ce6 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.38.3-3ubuntu2 * mutter Debian release 3.38.3-3ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/5iMs
[04:10] <KGB-0> mutter ubuntu/master 6c19a03 Marco Trevisan * pushed 9 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3XSLU
[04:10] <KGB-0> mutter ubuntu/master e8eb4d1 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ series input-thread-backports/backends-x11-Iterate-button-modifiers-all-the-way.patch input-thread-backports/backends-x11-Use-XkbBuildCoreState-the-right-way-around.patch * d/p/input-thread: Cherry-pick upstream commit to properly handle key modifiers * https://deb.li/JSyA
[04:10] <KGB-0> mutter ubuntu/master 7bbfe91 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ (21 files in 2 dirs) * d/p/input-thread: Cherry-pick more upstream input-related fixes * https://deb.li/3msZi
[04:10] <KGB-0> mutter ubuntu/master d55a12e Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ series input-thread-backports/backends-x11-Add-dummy-input-settings-x11-nested-implemen.patch input-thread-backports/clutter-Ensure-we-always-call-handle_event_post-for-proce.patch input-thread-backports/meta-seat-x11-fix-event-handling-for-x11-backend.patch * d/p/input-thre
[04:10] <KGB-0> GNOMEad: Ensure we handle device events in X11 * https://deb.li/3Ue40
[04:10] <KGB-0> mutter ubuntu/master 4011010 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * d/p/input-thread: Backport various X11 leak fixes * https://deb.li/itiq2
[04:10] <KGB-0> mutter ubuntu/master 10d72af Simon McVittie debian/patches/ series frame-Fix-crash-when-clicking-below-titlebar-with-broken-.patch window-actor-x11-Queue-full-actor-redraw-when-redraw-queu.patch * d/patches: Update to commit 3.38.3-26-g30c542ddc * https://deb.li/3cOi
[07:33] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:39] <didrocks> good morning
[07:40] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN and didrocks 
[07:41] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[07:58] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks 
[07:58] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[08:00] <didrocks> hello oSoMoN 
[08:06] <jibel> Good morning
[08:06] <Nafallo> salut desktopers! (how do you say desktopers in french?)
[08:07] <jibel> poste de travailleurs ... if it even means something :D
[08:09] <Nafallo> salut poste de travailleurs! :-D
[08:09] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk duflu pieq oSoMoN didrocks jibel Nafallo
[08:10] <duflu> Hi jibel, Nafallo, marcustomlinson 
[08:11] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson, bonjour Nafallo :)
[08:17] <jibel> Hi marcustomlinson duflu 
[08:44] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[08:44] <didrocks> hey seb128 
[08:45] <seb128> lut didrocks, comment ça va ?
[08:46] <didrocks> ça va, et toi ?
[08:47] <jibel> Salut seb128 
[08:47] <seb128> lut jibel, comment ça va ?
[08:47] <jibel> très bien et toi?
[08:47] <seb128> didrocks, ça va, léger rhume et j'aurais bien dormi d'avantage mais c'est habituel
[08:48] <marcustomlinson> morning seb128
[08:48] <oSoMoN> good morning jibel, Nafallo, marcustomlinson seb128 
[08:56] <callmepk> morning marcustomlinson oSoMoN didrocks jibel Nafallo seb128 
[08:56] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk 
[08:58] <didrocks> good afternoon callmepk 
[08:58] <jibel> Hi callmepk oSoMoN 
[08:59] <pieq> hey marcustomlinson !
[08:59] <pieq> Salut seb128 ! I just added a comment on https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-installer/issues/32 after discussing with jibel about it.
[08:59] <duflu> Hi seb128 
[09:00] <jibel> Hi Trevinho, a requirement for enterprise desktop is to be able to customize the parts of the greeter like the background image, banner, logo, ...
[09:01] <jibel> Trevinho, after investigation, as the background is in St.Widget, there is currently no easy way to do this customization via BackgroundManager for instance
[09:02] <jibel> Trevinho, it would be a huge refactoring to add a BackgroundManager to the lockDialogGroup object, and difficult to port to LTSes
[09:03] <jibel> Trevinho, So we went another path by adding keys customizable through gsettings and override the default setyle with inline style when the gsettings keys are set
[09:03] <Laney> yo
[09:03] <didrocks> Trevinho, the advantage here is that if the admin updates the "overridden" gsettings key, the default style is restored as kept on the St.Widget object
[09:04] <didrocks> (hey Laney)
[09:04] <jibel> Trevinho, here is the patch https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WCxB43qwhM/ for both gdm and gnome-shell 
[09:04] <Laney> DON'T YOU BRACKET ME!
[09:04] <didrocks> :p
[09:04] <jibel> Trevinho, what is your opinion on this?
[09:04] <jibel> {Hi laney}
[09:12] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[09:18] <oSoMoN> good morning (Laney)
[09:19] <oSoMoN> pieq, good feedback on that installer screen, thanks!
[09:20] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson oSoMoN pieq duflu Laney 
[09:21] <pieq> oSoMoN, hope this helps! 
[09:21] <pieq> (et bonjour :))
[09:30]  * Laney replies to the nice people only :p
[09:30] <Laney> morning marcustomlinson and seb128
[09:36] <duflu> ¡Hi Laney!
[09:46] <Laney> ahoy duflu~~~~
[10:41] <popey> Something weird is going on with latest hirsute. I can't drag my terminal window around, clicks go straight through to windows underneath. Other windows are draggable.no
[10:41] <popey> gah!
[10:42] <popey> mouse clicks are landing in the wrong place. i click on one part of the screen and it's clicking somewhere else!
[10:43] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1917926
[10:44] <popey> <3 thanks Laney
[10:44] <Laney> np
[10:44] <Laney> I think there's an upload in proposed for that
[10:45] <popey> hahah proposed ;)
[10:46] <Laney> I don't suggest you get it from there
[10:46] <Laney> but that you will have it available to you once the requisite checks have passed
[10:46] <Laney> :>
[10:46] <popey> can I downgrade something in the meantime?
[10:48] <seb128> popey, you are on nvidia? if not switch to a wayland session
[10:48] <popey> i am not using wayland
[10:48] <seb128> well, I suggest you do as a workaround
[10:48] <seb128> unless you can't (nvidia)
[10:48] <popey> my box has multiple GPUs, one of which is nvidia :)
[10:49] <seb128> if you can log into a wayland session it should work fine
[10:49] <seb128> otherwise you can probably grab the update from proposed without risk
[10:49] <popey> sadly the wayland session for me is super laggy
[10:49] <seb128> just don't forget to check what else is installed and turn if off after
[10:52] <popey> Ok, I'll give wayland a go until that lands, thanks! :D
[10:53] <popey> Is there any chance we could remove the gnome-software / snap-store autostart for 21.04? It is too memory hungry.
[10:54] <seb128> not without a functional regression, it's needed to warn you about firmware updates 
[10:55] <popey> Ah. Bummer.
[10:55] <popey> Does the snap actually warn you about firmware updates?
[10:55] <popey> I must admit, I don't own any devices capable of that
[10:56] <seb128> we would have turned it off from being active all the time a long time ago otherwise
[10:56] <seb128> yes, it does
[10:56]  * popey dreams of gnome-software with *everything* *except* firmware updates stripped out :)
[10:56] <seb128> :)
[10:57] <seb128> we were talking with kenvandine about adding the firmware check as a standalone service or something
[10:57] <seb128> but that requires a bit of work
[10:58] <seb128> popey, just curious, what laptop do you own? I though any recent enough lenovo or dell would get firmware updates you can apply with gnome-software
[10:58] <popey> T450, over 5 years old
[10:59] <seb128> alright
[11:00] <tjaalton> seb128: hi, should I file a FFE bug for new src:xwayland, or just upload? works fine for me
[11:01] <seb128> tjaalton, checking on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze you do yes
[11:01] <seb128> 'At this point we stop introducing new features, packages, and APIs'
[11:01] <tjaalton> okay
[11:01] <seb128> though I'm unsure why new packages are an issue, they can't regress anything
[11:02] <tjaalton> I'll file one anyway, it's cheap
[11:02] <seb128> right
[11:02] <jamesh> tkamppeter: Does my suggestion about fixing the "bad file descriptor" problem you mentioned help?
[11:02] <seb128> also we might want to pull that in by default if it brings improvements?
[11:03] <seb128> in which case we need the ffe
[11:03] <seb128> also a MIR I guess (though it's a split from existing main code right?)
[11:10] <popey> On wayland, I get a delay and flicker when opening the applications grid. Is this known? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXNnYHKfVCo
[11:10] <ahayzen> From the discussion of standalone fwupd checks, FWIW i have a simple python script which shows me a notification when they are available which i just run as a systemd user timer.
[11:10] <seb128> duflu would be the one to ask but he's eod now
[11:10] <ahayzen> it's available here if it helps https://gitlab.com/ahayzen/ansible-playbook-desktop/-/blob/master/roles/base-session/files/fwupd-notifier-gui.py
[11:11] <seb128> ahayzen, ah, thanks
[11:11] <seb128> kenvandine, ^
[11:16] <tjaalton> seb128: yes, needs mir too
[11:22] <ricotz> hello desktopers
[11:47] <oSoMoN> hello ricotz 
[11:54] <marcustomlinson> hey ricotz
[11:54] <ricotz> oSoMoN, marcustomlinson, hey
[11:55] <ricotz> would it possible to have autopkgtests running on libreoffice - 1:6.4.7-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo3 ? - https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=focal
[11:57] <oSoMoN> the queues are nice and empty, let me trigger those tests
[11:57] <ricotz> oSoMoN, thank you!
[11:58] <oSoMoN> done
[12:22] <seb128> hey ricotz
[12:32] <ricotz> hey seb128 
[14:18] <KGB-1> mutter ubuntu/master 2705a76 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/tests/control * debian/tests/control: Update references to libmutter-7-dev * https://deb.li/3mf3V
[14:59] <Trevinho> jibel: sorry, I didn't see your pings :(
[15:03] <Trevinho> jibel: so... it seems something indeed upstreamable, even though there were some ideas upstream to allow some extensions to take over the login screen as well and that will indeed allow more customization
[15:04] <Trevinho> jibel: from my POV the patch is fine to carry over, but we should use different setting namespace if upstream isn't getting it 
[15:04] <Trevinho> other thing, need to check, but that seems to handle only the lockscreen, isn't it?
[15:07] <Trevinho> codewise there are few cleanups I see, like maybe using a list for inline_style's and then join them via `;` and see if in that file is possible to use verbatim strings
[15:11] <Trevinho> popey: fixed mutter should have hit hirsute, if you dindn't update yet (and since jibel desn't blame anymore I guess it's solved :P)
[15:12] <popey> Trevinho super
[15:13] <Trevinho> popey: as for that flicker, yes I saw it... I suppose it's due to the dock, or are you also getting during on super-a?
[15:13] <popey> I can't super-a on wayland
[15:13] <popey> my keyboard has no super key. On x I map capslock to super. don't know how to do that on wayland
[15:14] <Trevinho> oh, well you can change the super key in mutter
[15:14] <Nafallo> popey: bah. you're super enough to not need a key for it ;-)
[15:14] <Trevinho> as for mapping... let me see
[15:14] <popey> Nafallo <3 
[15:14] <Trevinho> popey: I guess you've to do the hard way https://realh.co.uk/wp/linux-keymap-hacking/
[15:15] <Trevinho> not sure if something changed since then
[15:15] <popey> that blog post isn't one line long, so no, not doing that :)
[15:15] <popey> setxkbmap -option caps:super
[15:15] <popey> that's what I do on x
[15:15] <Nafallo> popey: hmm. tried the dconf value?
[15:15] <Trevinho> yeah, no you can't you've to edit the system mappings afaik
[15:16] <Trevinho> but you can indeed change the mutter gsettings key
[15:16] <Trevinho> not sure how well that works though
[15:17] <popey> i don't see it in org / gnome / mutter / keybindings
[15:17] <Nafallo> [org/gnome/desktop/input-sources]
[15:17] <Nafallo> sources=[('xkb', 'gb')]
[15:17] <Nafallo> xkb-options=['compose:rctrl']
[15:18] <Nafallo> should be able to populate the xkb-options list.
[15:18] <popey> woohoo, that worked thanks
[15:18] <Nafallo> no problem :)
[15:19] <popey> Trevinho no, super+a doesn't show the flicker, I guess because there is no animation from the app grid icon to do, because I didn't hit i
[15:19] <popey> *it
[15:19] <Trevinho> mh
[15:24] <popey> Google Chrome under Wayland is *painful*. Input takes seconds to take effect
[16:53] <popey> Bah! gnome-shell crash takes out everything, still?
[19:13] <seb128> kenvandine, tweak of the day, after yesterday discussion about the LD_LIBRARIES_PATH snapcraft CVE discussed here I hacked the report to add a comment in the corresponding columns for packages that has that CVE warning in the build log, https://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/snaps.html
[19:13] <seb128> e.g eog on the first line of the report
[19:15] <oSoMoN> nice
[19:15] <seb128> :-)
[19:16] <oSoMoN> seb128, I wouldn't mind adding chromium to that report, I'll look into it later
[19:18] <seb128> oSoMoN, let me do that for you
[19:20] <seb128> oSoMoN, what are the builds you are interested in?
[19:21] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-team/+snap/chromium-snap-stable hasn't build since 2018 so I guess not that one
[19:21] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-team/+snap/chromium-snap-from-source-stable ?
[19:21] <seb128> and https://launchpad.net/~chromium-team/+snap/chromium-snap-from-source-dev ?
[20:02] <oSoMoN> seb128, yeah, and there's also https://launchpad.net/~chromium-team/+snap/chromium-snap-from-source-beta
[20:03] <seb128> oSoMoN, alright, the beta case is for later, it requires a bit more work
[20:03] <seb128> I started the snap report around our GNOME snaps where we do stable-to-candidate and master-to-edge builds
[20:04] <seb128> adding handling of beta channel shouldn't be difficult but a bit more work
[20:05] <oSoMoN> seb128, ack, having stable and dev is already a very good start
[20:07] <seb128> oSoMoN, https://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/snaps.html 
[20:07] <seb128> (locally hacked edit of the code for today because I'm working on another commit)
[20:08] <seb128> which is showing something to improve, the edge arm builds are currently a version behind, that should probably be reflected
[20:09] <seb128> hum, who is handling the KGB bot?
[20:09] <seb128> Laney, Trevinho, is that one of you, I don't remember now
[20:09] <Trevinho> seb128: Laney is
[20:13] <seb128> unsure that's the right syntax or anything but let's see
[20:47] <oSoMoN> seb128, I'm not seeing chromium on that page, should I ?
[20:48] <seb128> oSoMoN, refresh
[20:48] <seb128> oSoMoN, that's because there was an update which overwrote my locally tweaked one
[20:48] <oSoMoN> ah, now I do, thanks
[20:49] <seb128> hum, I need to fix also the title in the first column to be the snap name
[20:50] <oSoMoN> are the i386 builds intentionally ignored?
[20:55] <seb128> yes, same reason as the beta channel, our GNOME snaps don't build for 386 since the gnome platform is missing there, but I will add it because it's trivial
[21:08] <oSoMoN> cheers