[02:50] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:55] <marcoagpinto> Hello!
[07:30] <ducasse> good morning
[09:16] <daftykins> hrmm, no focal builds of Landscape on-prem lead me to think it's not long for this world
[09:26] <daftykins> open to suggestions for alternatives, i've been playing with cockpit so far today
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> a lot seem to like cockpit
[17:49] <teward> daftykins: um... that's normal for Landscape?  They don't support $latestLTS they're usually $previousLTS
[17:51] <daftykins> ok, well that's useless to me then - i wouldn't create a bionic VM this late in its' life just so i can use it :)
[17:52] <daftykins> Cockpit is ok but you don't get a single view of updates of all your hosts as with Landscape
[17:52] <leftyfb> bionic still has plenty of life in it
[17:53] <daftykins> i'm good
[17:53] <daftykins> nobody uses anything along those lines for those tasks, then?
[18:35] <leftyfb> daftykins: I just use apticron and get emails when things need updating :)
[18:37] <teward> daftykins: i mean, there's a lot of platforms we use for spinning VMs at FT job but they're all Templates in VMware :P
[18:37] <teward> and Landscape SaaS is the primary Landscape, that's usually more up to date than on-prem
[18:37] <teward> (I use SaaS as central for all servers I deploy on my own infra, even via Template, there's a startup task to see if Landscape is configured and if it isn't deploy a config that goes to LSaaS and integrate there)
[18:38] <teward> 'course i had to prod Canonical hard-core mode to get them to fix a bug in the SaaS platform (and had to loop Mark in since I don't have a direct tech PoC for Landscape SaaS) but they fixed that bug :P
[21:01] <sarnold> that goofball was in #debian on oftc a few minutes ago being told the exact same set of things. sigh.