[00:47] <metbsd> 04:00.0 PCI bridge: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1083/1085 PCIe to PCI Bridge (rev 04)
[00:47] <metbsd> i'm not able to enable this
[00:48] <metbsd> it's a wifi card on pcie
[00:48] <metbsd> desktop
[00:52] <metbsd> according to linux-hardware it is supported
[00:56] <lenarhoyt> Hi. I'm on 20.04.2 and I cannot load custom .desktop files. I installed the with desktop-file-install ~/.local/share/applications my.desktop, updated the cache, restarted, etc. I tried it with different .desktop files, it simply won't show up in the launcher. This is a *clean* install.
[01:10] <Saito552> hello
[01:13] <Saito552> I don't have a problem, infact this is the reverse of that, but I'm just curious if this is all in my head but , see i run xubuntu because it's a really old core2duo imac computer, and i just got a cable to be able to go from mini dvi on the imac to a 1080p monitor , and by disabling the imac screen the performance is better than when i just was using the imac screen
[01:13] <Saito552> is that even possible
[01:13] <Saito552> like is it that the monitor being off is drawing less heat to the rest of the system since it's all inside the screen?
[01:14] <Saito552> or is this all in my head
[01:14] <sarnold> some of the older graphics chipsets could do *one* screen accelerated and the other screen would just be a dumb framebuffer
[01:14] <leftyfb> Saito552: maybe it performs better at a different resolution? I don't think it has anything to do with heat/power to the built in LCD
[01:14] <sarnold> I don't know about your machine, but I wouldn't be surprised if it had the horsepower to do accelerated graphics to only one monitor
[01:14] <Saito552> i dunno i just got the cable, disabled the internal imac screen and it performs way dif than the mac screen did
[01:15] <Saito552> when it was just the imac's screen
[01:15] <Saito552> never ran 2 at the same time
[01:15] <sarnold> ahhh
[01:15] <Saito552> at least at desktop
[01:15] <Saito552> what's going on for me is it starts on the imac, loads xubuntu then at desktop i have it disable the mac screen and switch over
[01:15] <Saito552> it does it while it's loading
[01:15] <Saito552> automatically
[01:16] <Saito552> this screen is 1080p and i  have to look up again the wierd resolution the imac has
[01:17] <Saito552> 1680 x 1050
[01:18] <sarnold> hmm those are pretty similar, it's not like one is half the pixels of the other..
[01:18] <Saito552>  AMD ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400
[01:19] <Saito552> i mean my theory is the screen being turned off is lessening the heat and stuff being put on the parts inside
[01:20] <Saito552> but im def noticing some difs here
[01:20] <sarnold> certainly plausible; you could check CPU power / speed?
[01:20] <Saito552> let me see ive been using linux for a few years but still pretty newbie
[01:20] <Saito552> i got a temp monitor thing
[01:20] <sarnold> sudo cpupower frequency-info
[01:21] <sarnold> if your guess is right, probably the cpu temp is the same no matter what -- just the 'source' of the heat changes
[01:22] <Saito552> command not found
[01:22] <Saito552> i guess i dont have that one hold on
[01:22] <Saito552> ok which of these do i need
[01:23] <Saito552> tools common or oem-tools common
[01:23] <Saito552> let me use the thing i got now psensor instead
[01:24] <Saito552> has my cores around 50C
[01:24] <Saito552> ill switch them and see what it does
[01:26] <Saito552> hmm i dunno but whatevs damn linux can be magic heh
[01:26] <Saito552> saves old computers
[01:26] <Saito552> less ewaste
[02:22] <isapgswell> i2c_hid confliting psmouse
[03:56] <NAPSSS> Napsterbater
[03:57] <Napsterbater> NAPSSS
[03:57] <NAPSSS> haha
[03:57] <NAPSSS> sorry
[03:57] <NAPSSS> its funny
[05:51] <veebull__> Having a bit of a problem with an external HDD, permanently mounted... being rw for root, and ro for everyone else.
[06:35] <exospecies> hi, i'm looking for a arm64 based touch screen device where i can install ubuntu and on it install my own software.. any ideas for what device i could get?
[06:49] <dirtwash> does anyone know a proper working remote desktop solution?
[06:49] <dirtwash> the VNC stuff I tried was all not working and x2go has no good support with OSX clients
[07:06] <van7777> dirtwash: real vns with login-pass
[07:07] <van7777> realvnc*
[07:13] <alakx> Hello! Is there going to be a tomcat 10 deb package soon ?
[07:23] <john_rambo> Can someone please tell me what's causing this error during boot >>> https://ibb.co/XzVz230
[07:24] <catbeard> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-signed/+bug/1840560
[07:26] <catbeard> np
[08:28] <Johnnyboyy> hello. I have sound problems in my dell xps 9700. I made a bug report it, and apparently a solution is to add "CONFIG_SND_SOC_INTEL_SOUNDWIRE_SOF_MACH=m" to the kernel config. How can I do this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1912673
[08:32] <Johnnyboyy> is it the /boot/config 5.....
[09:11] <ace_me1> what is for /usr/sbin/uuidd I see it reported by CSF firewall as exceeding ->  Exceeded:     8630407 > 1800 (seconds) some limit present in the setting. On that ubuntu is running with docker-compose some services Anyone know ?
[09:43] <tuxinator> Some Ubuntu guys here aware of a Bug with remoteip Apache Module in 18.04 i checked Launchpad but not found anything
[09:45] <tuxinator> if not i will probably file one ;-)
[09:54] <AndroUser10> Hello channel, can pfsense be installed on ubuntu???
[09:55] <pasiz> AndroUser10: same answer than i write on #linux
[10:01] <kill-animals_> How does stat() know how many hardlinks there are to a particular inode? Namely, if I know there are two hardlinks; shouldnt I  be able to get their paths without having to search the entire filesystem?
[10:21] <blueeagle> AndroUser10: On their homepage it states that it is based on FreeBSD, so odds are that it will not run out of the box on Ubuntu.
[10:23] <blueeagle> AndroUser10: They appear to have a dedicated support team for thier product, so I think they can give a more thurough answer.
[12:03] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:40] <se-sm-ca> hi all, how do I enable ssh access to the 20.04 installer while it's running?
[12:40] <se-sm-ca> centos/rhel I can ssh into the installer, can't seem to figure out how to do it for ubuntu
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> se-sm-ca: i think you need to boot into the live desktop, then install ssh on it and run the installer from the live desktop
[12:56] <se-sm-ca> lotuspsychje: ah I'm thinking more in the preseed
[12:56] <se-sm-ca> I don't have video access
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> se-sm-ca: elaborate your end goal a bit more, volunteers might have other ideas for you
[13:02] <se-sm-ca> lotuspsychje: so in anaconda (centos installer) it can have an ssh server running in the installer by adding the "inst.sshd=1" kernel command line option, letting someone ssh into a running install to debug things remotely. I'm trying to find the ubuntu equivalent since I do not have video access to these servers, and they're stuck on one part of the installation process
[13:58] <imrjd> hello
[13:59] <imrjd> how can i recover my windows partion on nvme? undo it?
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> imrjd: you can recover files with photorec if you like
[14:02] <imrjd> undo the whole i nuked my partition thing?
[14:02] <imrjd> i wanted to format my usb disk but nuked my windows10 parition
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> imrjd: not undo, recover lost data on it
[14:13] <imrjd> nothing important was on it
[14:13] <imrjd> now if reboot i will loose my ubuntu also
[14:19] <imrjd> which should i install first Windows or Unbuntu
[14:19] <geirha> Windows
[14:20] <imrjd> how much diskpace i need for root partition to be on Nvme drive? so i can boot it faster
[14:50] <marisn> How to force systemd-timesyncd or chrony to use TCP instead of UDP?
[14:56] <Amol> marisn: I think its UDP only
[14:58] <marisn> Amol:  :-( NTP UDP port is blocked on network level == no NTP for me :(
[15:00] <pizzaburger> Hi! Is it normal for Ubuntu 20.10 to use 11GB of memory? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T6myJBpc3B/
[15:06] <geirha> depends on what you're running ... perhaps look at   top   to see what processes are using that much memory
[15:11] <pizzaburger> Firefox/Web Content. But those memory numbers doesn't seem to add to 11 gigs
[15:31] <oerheks> pizzaburger, how many tabs?
[15:50] <pizzaburger> oerheks 5 yt
[15:53] <oerheks> nice, so if you have the memory, youtube will use it
[16:23] <xnat834[m]> Hello, I'm having issues using VLC and have pinned it down to this topic: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1254544/vlc-crashes-when-opening-any-file-ubuntu-20-04
[16:24] <xnat834[m]> They suggest to use 'MESA_LOADER_DRIVER_OVERRIDE=i965', but my driver is i915.
[16:24] <xnat834[m]> I'm a bit confused
[16:33] <xnat834[m]> Ok, apparently: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1288395/system-is-unusable-after-upgrade-to-20-10-i915-gpu-hang
[16:33] <xnat834[m]> Maybe it has something to do with that
[16:36] <oerheks> xnat834[m], which VLC exactly? the apt version or snap?
[16:37] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/vlc could give a newer version for Focal
[16:37] <oerheks> apt https://launchpad.net/vlc/+packages
[16:37] <xnat834[m]> The problem is that 'vainfo' also gives me errors
[16:39] <xnat834[m]> vainfo: https://bin.disroot.org/?46d056063a92e9b1#BnE4Z2Di2b51eHhjsqgF6mtELYXiXxCeZQgaTtuAkPsW
[16:39] <xnat834[m]> vlc --version: https://bin.disroot.org/?6b11a8c0a67c0e89#7ptJvvgQd1qbxsipo7n7zhhyQYPEGh24tyykZi6mCCni
[16:39] <xnat834[m]> 'VLC media player 3.0.11.1 Vetinari (revision 3.0.11.1-0-g52483f3ca2)'
[16:40] <xnat834[m]> I have a feeling something is trying to use that i965 driver and I only have i915 or something
[16:40] <oerheks> try the snap version, it can be installed side-by-side
[16:40] <xnat834[m]> But my knowledge is too limited
[16:40] <xnat834[m]> Ok, one moment
[16:44] <xnat834[m]> It works!
[16:44] <oerheks> nice
[16:44] <xnat834[m]> Weird, so it really seems to be a VLC-specific issue?
[16:44] <oerheks> remove the apt version and have fun!
[16:45] <oerheks> i think kernel /i915 update
[16:45] <xnat834[m]> You mean the older VLC version didn't adapt to a new kernel/i915 update?
[16:46] <xnat834[m]> A bit weird because it came with my distribution...
[16:46] <xnat834[m]> Welll..
[18:28] <JoeLlama> Wine is installed but I cannot get it to run a windows program.  What's the trick please? :)
[18:29] <oerheks> JoeLlama, the trick is: join #winehq for application help/docs
[18:29] <oerheks> !wine
[18:30] <JoeLlama> oOo thanks oerheks
[18:31] <JoeLlama> Wine is installed but I cannot get it to run a windows program.  What's the trick please? :)
[18:31] <JoeLlama> oops
[18:31] <JoeLlama> wrong channel
[18:35] <monsterco> I have a trading program that I have installed on my PC and I can connect to it using their API and TCP Socket. If the program is not running my c++ program keeps trying to connect and of course fails but there is a about 2 minutes delay each time. I don't think they have added delay and this is probably TCP wait time. Where can I change this to be 0?
[18:35] <monsterco> Error. Id: -1, Code: 509, Msg: Exception caught while reading socket - Connection reset by peer
[18:39] <JoeLlama> how do I get the panel to open at the bottom of the screen rather than the top in xubuntu 20.04?
[18:39] <oerheks> monsterco, care to share what program, what ubuntu version? at least..
[18:39] <JoeLlama> the websites don\t male sense on how to do this
[18:39] <JoeLlama> at least for me
[18:40] <monsterco> Ubuntu 20.04
[18:40] <ThinkT510> JoeLlama: just right click on the panels to customize them
[18:41] <monsterco> program is a trading application so probably won't make a difference other than it takes tcp socket but also it is NOT running
[18:41] <monsterco> so every 2 minutes I get the error message but I want that to be much less and contineous attempts to connect
[18:41] <monsterco> seems like tcp stack (maybe?) is only trying every 2 minutes to connect
[18:41] <monsterco> oerheks, ^
[18:42] <oerheks> monsterco, yes, the exact program info please, why hold back ??
[18:42] <oerheks> others might be able to help you, i am having diner now
[18:42]  * oerheks afk
[18:44] <monsterco> because it doesn't matter
[18:44] <monsterco> the program is NOT running
[18:44] <monsterco> if it is running I connect right away
[18:44] <monsterco> if it is not running of course my c++ doesn't connect and gives that error but only every 2 mins; I want that delay shortened. It has nothing to do with the program.
[18:47] <ThinkT510> monsterco: why are do you want the delay shortened for your program if you know the trading app isn't running? are you going to use the program with something else?
[18:49] <sybariten> 'ello
[18:49] <sybariten> I just reinstalled a ubuntu server, or i went from v14 to v20 in one go
[18:50] <JoeLlama> ookay thanks ThinkT510
[18:50] <JoeLlama> thought I did that and couldn\t find an option
[18:50] <sybariten> Using the same ssh client with the same settings (and the same name of the account) i can get in without problems, but my character or locale settings are a bit messed up, as can be the case with a new machine.
[18:50] <JoeLlama> lemme try again
[18:51] <JoeLlama> which option ThinkT510 ?  I am running xubuntu 20.04
[18:51] <sybariten> Since i'm running the same ssh client without any change, i figure the problem is all on the server side and not on my desktop side. Where do i start investigating? Do i need to do soemthign with the "locales" package? Curses, for instance, like in this weechat irc client, does not look like it should
[18:52] <JoeLlama> nope nope nope ThinkT510  there is no option I can find that will open the panel at the bottom of the screen :(
[18:52] <sybariten> I'm guessing it may be related to 7bit versus 8 bit ascii or something. The thing is i am not USAmerican so i should probably not set the most common recommended setting that i can find out there online....
[18:53] <ThinkT510> JoeLlama: go to settings, you can add/remove/move panels
[18:54] <JoeLlama> oh okay ThinkT510  :)
[18:55] <JoeLlama> ThinkT510,  you mean right click on the panel and go to panel preferrences?
[18:55] <JoeLlama> there is no settings
[18:56]  * JoeLlama waits for ThinkT510  (:
[18:57] <ThinkT510> JoeLlama: yes, under preferences
[18:58] <JoeLlama> hrm... specifically what do I click on ThinkT510 ??
[18:59] <ThinkT510> JoeLlama: sorry, busy
[18:59] <JoeLlama> there is nothing that says move to bottom or anything...
[18:59] <isapgswell> how to disable builtin feature linux?
[18:59] <JoeLlama> ah okay gotcha ThinkT510
[18:59] <JoeLlama> anyone else understand how to move the panel from the top of the screen to the bottom?  seems like it would be easy but I don't think so.
[19:00] <JoeLlama> again xubuntu 20.04
[19:01] <JoeLlama> websites tell me to do this and that but that is not the preferences I am seeing.
[19:02] <notobvious> JoeLlama, if i remember correctly you unlock the panel and drag it by a corner to the bottom of the screen
[19:03] <JoeLlama> I tried that didn't work right but maybe I try agian thanks :)
[19:04] <JoeLlama> well that worked but now the panel doesn't hide
[19:06] <notobvious> in the panel settings there should be auto hide
[19:06] <JoeLlama> oh it's fixed now...  how do I get more thank six lines of panel notobvious ?
[19:06] <JoeLlama> yes autohide was checked
[19:07] <JoeLlama> guess it took a few seconds to register dunno
[19:07] <JoeLlama> so yeah need more than six lines of panel....  how do I configue that notobvious ??
[19:07] <JoeLlama> good job so far btw :)
[19:09] <JoeLlama> hrm gunna go deal with it... bbl thanks for the help guys
[19:10] <notobvious> dont know that part
[20:00] <deadrom> hi.
[20:01] <deadrom> about to update a 16.04LTS to 18.04LTS but apt update gets stuck at Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/multiverse amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [2468 B]
[20:01] <deadrom> 0% waiting for headers. well. why won't it proceed
[20:03] <sarnold> that's strange :/ I just now did a wget mirror of that whole directory structure and it downloaded half a megabyte of data over 93 files in a few seconds
[20:04] <sarnold> I think ^C that and restart your update?
[20:05] <deadrom> did. not better.
[20:05] <deadrom> the interwebs suggest to force ipv4. gonna see if it helps
[20:08] <deadrom> not better.
[20:11] <sarnold> deadrom: I haven't downloaded dep-11 data for a few years, I think I got annoyed by similar things when I disabled it..
[20:12] <sarnold> deadrom: look around in /etc/apt/prefs.d to see if you can find a config file that causes dep-11 to be downloaded; you can probably rename that file to add an .ignore suffix or something to get apt to ignore it -- I'm pretty sure I just removed mine
[20:13] <sarnold> dep-11 supplies icons and screenshots and metadata for the graphical app store thing, which I don't have installed; if you use that, you'll probably want to put it back once you're done with the upgrade
[20:21] <deadrom> sarnold: only rfd to dep-11 is in apt-conf.d/50appstream
[20:23] <sarnold> deadrom: ah, sorry to send you to the wrong place :( -- mv that file to your home directory or something, then re-issue the apt update
[20:24] <deadrom> no idea what wrong with this piece of shit. I renamed .disabled, apt update hung at line 3 teamviewer-repos
[20:24] <deadrom> i removed teamviewer, now angs at line 2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease [109 kB]
[20:24] <deadrom> I think I pull a fresh 20.04 now and install right over, something is fishy here
[20:25] <deadrom> I swear to bob, every piece of IT from that guy is *cursed*
[20:26] <sarnold> deadrom: argh. :( can you browse http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu with w3m or lynx or similar on this machine?
[20:28] <deadrom> sarnold: I got shot in my tracks: minutes after hooking this computer to my network switch my network starts hiccuping
[20:28] <deadrom> which explains the recent wonky problems with his networked printer
[20:29] <sarnold> deadrom: hmm; are you thinking there's something onthe machine that's causing wider network problems? that's certainly possible, but I've not seen that for ages..
[20:29] <deadrom> intel NUC. I thin kI just pluck out the ssd and jam it into a proper PC
[20:29] <deadrom> CURSED.
[20:34] <deadrom> now I remember that he said: the mouse and keyboard occasionally stop responding and have to be reconnected at usb.
[20:34] <deadrom> usb drops out, network jeopardized everything... something in this thing is shot
[20:35] <sarnold> flaky power supply, insufficient power supply can give you some pretty confusing results
[20:43] <deadrom> sarnold: I thought in that direction, too. DC-In. could be VRMs, too
[20:44] <deadrom> intel was a bit greedy with compacting the NUCs.
[20:45] <oerheks> some lift the fan to see if the CPU is real, and plug it back on, without fresh paste
[20:45] <oerheks> deadrom, try some intel tools to check hw
[20:45] <oerheks> windows only, afaik https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000024102/intel-nuc.html
[20:47] <deadrom> oerheks: not old enough for dry paste, never tinkered with, first owner
[20:50] <deadrom> standard 19V 65W... could hack its head of and transplant on a lenovo...
[20:52] <sybariten> Ughhh i thought i fixed some more character related issues by installing a locale, but now i realized i've also changed the language that things like apt communicate in... so its not english. Well i guess the "os" is not english any more.
[20:53] <sybariten> Is it possible to have the best of borth worlds? I want basicly my whole experience to be in english, but i want to be able to write and read my special characters...
[20:53] <sarnold> sybariten: I think dpkg-reconfigure locales will probably do the right thing
[20:54] <sarnold> sybariten: there's a fair amount of details on https://wiki.debian.org/Locale if you need more than that
[20:54] <kepael> Hello! I have a Ryzen CPU without a GPU. How can I install the proprietary drivers for the integrated GPU in Ubuntu? Thank you!
[20:55] <oerheks> ryzen comes with gpu build-in indeed, why does it not work?
[20:56] <sarnold> the installer should have selected the right firmware packages during installation
[20:57] <kepael> it works. I just want better performance like I have in windows
[20:57] <oerheks> lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display' #  what does driver in use say?
[20:57] <kepael> the additional drivers app doesnt show anything to install or remove
[20:58] <oerheks> radeon should be oke
[20:58] <kepael> 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Picasso (rev c2)
[20:58] <kepael>     Subsystem: Lenovo ThinkPad E595
[20:58] <kepael>     Kernel driver in use: amdgpu
[20:58] <kepael>     Kernel modules: amdgpu
[20:58] <oerheks> oh even amdgpu
[20:58] <kepael> what does that mean?
[20:59] <oerheks> !amdgpu
[20:59] <kepael> So would i get better performance installing amdgpu-pro?
[21:00] <bl> i'm running ubuntu 18.04 and i'm having some strange issues right now.  i'll give two examples.  one scenario is where i can have a firefox window behind a terminal window and when i click on the browser window it does not raise but clicking will select the browser.  then i can move the mouse over the terminal window and right click and instead of getting the terminal context menu i get the firefox context menu
[21:01] <oerheks> maybe, install them manually, or the oibaf ppa https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[21:01] <kepael> I'm using ubuntu 20.04
[21:01] <sybariten> sarnold: thank you.... seems like a common suggestion is also to export some variable in bashrc, but i wonder if this is the most reasonable way to do it, just feels like a bit like a "make-up" thing to me
[21:01] <oerheks> same
[21:01] <kepael> the link says ubuntu 18.04
[21:02] <bl> so that is kinda two examples, one being that windows don't always raise on click and the other is the weird behavior with regard to context menus
[21:02] <bl> there are others but they are more difficult to describe.  they all seem to revolve around losing control of the mouse in various ways
[21:02] <sarnold> sybariten: well, different people want different things :) setting variables in bash may not help if you run mostly gui tools..
[21:03] <kepael> is it ok if i install the driver from this site? https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-amdgpu-unified-linux-20-30
[21:04] <sarnold> no idea, I've never known anyone to do that before
[21:04] <sybariten> sarnold: well no, this is a headless machine.... it just felt (a little) like a "hack" laying on the surface, if you understand, since other things are more "integrated" (such as running a dpkg tool). But i think the reconfiogure tool may actually have helped me get english messages now. Thanks!
[21:04] <kepael> I dont know if that helps with the ryzen processors though... It doesnt say ryzen it just lists dedicated GPU models
[21:04] <oerheks> kepael, if you do, you will need to reinstall the driver every kernel update, and update that package too when there are fixes
[21:05] <oerheks> the oibaf ppa is a known driver ppa, i would use that.
[21:05] <sarnold> sybariten: there's no fantastic way to let every user on the system select their own language, and let users select different languages per process, etc .. it's all pretty complicated
[21:05] <sybariten> sarnold:yup i can imagine
[21:06] <sarnold> sybariten: I for one hate the new 20.04 LTS date -u output: "Fri 12 Mar 2021 09:06:08 PM UTC"
[21:06] <sarnold> 09 .. PM. WAT.
[21:07] <sybariten> sarnold: oh.. but thats just nine in the morning in USAmerican isn't it?
[21:08] <sybariten> mine says 21 now, so thats good. Well its not good cause the server's one hour wrong, but...
[21:09] <sarnold> sybariten: that's the thing -- it used to say 21, now it says "09 pm". I hates it I do.
[21:09] <sybariten> ok. Yeah thats a locale issue on your end mayube?
[21:09] <kepael> oerheks: It seems that the PPA only installs the open source drivers... Wouldnt i get as good performance as in windows if i install the proprietary amd driver? The one from this site https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-amdgpu-unified-linux-20-45
[21:11] <sarnold> sybariten: it's apparently an intentional upstream change https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1862055
[21:18] <sybariten> sarnold:so its a feature, not a bug...
[21:18] <sarnold> sybariten: right :)
[21:29] <sybariten> ugh i just realized my "locale" command outputs different things depending on if i'm running it inside or outsied of tmux ....  so consquently i can for instance also only type my local extra characters only when i'm in emacs outside of tmux, not when running emacs inside tmux...
[21:33] <sarnold> sybariten: ^B :setenv FOO BAR  can be used to change the environment variables in tmux, so that new processes spawned from tmux get different values
[21:36] <sybariten> sarnold:thanks...
[21:47] <kepael> Hello. Does anyone know if this drive will help me with my Ryzen 3500u performance? https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-amdgpu-unified-linux-20-45
[22:03] <bubbler> /
[22:21] <deadrom> could someone with 20.04 do me a favour and check if apt update right now works?
[22:21] <deadrom> i just installed a machien from scratch, kept /home though, ehternet, wifi - apt update gets stuck on line 2 "security" repos
[22:25] <kepael> it works
[22:25] <deadrom> then this machine is knackered. makes no sense though.
[22:25] <sarnold> deadrom: wfm on both a focal and bionic system
[22:27] <deadrom> sarnold: sorry what?
[22:27] <sarnold> ooh. you know, I just remembered busted PMTU disocvery can lead to problems like this. any chance you're got a firewall on the system, or the network, that's dropping ICMP packets?
[22:27] <sarnold> deadrom: wfm == works for me
[22:27] <deadrom> no, apart from a simple stateful nothing like that
[22:27] <deadrom> how do I disable all ipv6 for 20.04?
[22:28] <oerheks> so your hardware seems to be toast, as you earlier was thinking.
[22:28] <oerheks> or maybe change network cable?
[22:28] <deadrom> oerheks: I even tried wifi
[22:29] <deadrom> tried a different psu, too. had one with those specs
[22:29] <deadrom> I think I might try popping the ssd in anothe rmachine
[22:29] <deadrom> actually I'll just do that
[22:41] <deadrom> same. popped the SSD in a thinkpad T400. wired eth. disabled ipv6 temporary
[22:42] <deadrom> this here is a 18.04, apt update jsut goes through
[22:43] <deadrom> no wait... problem with http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates InRelease
[22:44] <macc24_> hello, is vboot-tools package present in ubuntu?
[22:44] <macc24_> i can't seem to install it on my machine
[22:45] <sarnold> macc24_: I can't spot anything with that name in any release of ubuntu
[22:45] <leftyfb> macc24_: negative. No packages nor files named vboot-tools
[22:45] <macc24_> okay, would it work if i installed a debian package?
[22:45] <leftyfb> macc24_: I wouldn't. What is vboot-tools for exactly?
[22:46] <macc24_> leftyfb: cgpt
[22:46] <macc24_> and other chromebook-specific binaries
[22:46] <macc24_> to interact with partition table, to package kerkel etc.
[22:46] <leftyfb> macc24_: there is vboot-utils and cgpt packages
[22:46] <macc24_> oh
[22:46] <macc24_> i'll try installing it
[22:47] <deadrom> what are the fastest mirrors?
[22:48] <leftyfb> deadrom: what package(s) are you installing?
[22:49] <deadrom> leftyfb: just apt update. takes ages.
[22:50] <deadrom> ran a download, my line is fine
[22:50] <leftyfb> deadrom: then just use the main one us.archive.ubuntu.com
[22:50] <Bashing-om> deadrom: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors - choose what works best for your location.
[22:51] <sarnold> deadrom: maybe pick an https mirror -- I wonder if your ISP is running a transparent http proxy. those are often pretty poor.
[22:52] <leftyfb> deadrom: I used to use ubuntu.media.mit.edu and found it the fastest even from other countries. But it had an issue with not being up to date at one point so I went back to the main one
[23:13] <deadrom> can I round robin mirrors within, say EU?
[23:14] <oerheks> just use main
[23:14] <sarnold> you could probably convince apt-transport-mirror(1) to do something like that, but it'll wind up duplicating a bunch of the lists in /var/lib/dpkg/
[23:15] <sarnold> it's probably better to just pick one that works fast and keeps up to date
[23:59] <mattfly> Trying to apt upgrade a vps with 20.04 lts but this error: http://ix.io/2SCs
[23:59] <mattfly> i can only boot with the old kernel