[00:16] <reaVer> hi, I'm trying to live boot from USB but the screen is stuck at "Booting a command list" and the only button that does something is the powerbutton
[00:41] <samwilliam> reaVer is there any other message? What application was used to create the live USB? Are you using UEFI or BIOS boot?
[00:42] <reaVer> I'm using BIOS boot
[00:42] <reaVer> I used dd
[00:46] <samwilliam> Is ``Booting a command list´´ the last output on screen?
[00:48] <samwilliam> If your computer supports UEFI, could you try that method disabling the legacy option?
[00:49] <reaVer> samwilliam: yes
[00:49] <reaVer> I don't think the laptop I'm using has UEFI support
[00:59] <samwilliam> no problem
[01:01] <samwilliam> I suggest you try to boot this USB in another computer or rerun the dd command
[01:01] <samwilliam> sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdx status=progress oflag=sync
[01:02] <samwilliam> maybe some error occurred while coping the iso.
[01:04] <mattfly> can someone help me. Trying to apt upgrade a vps with 20.04 lts but this error: http://ix.io/2SCs
[01:09] <reaVer> samwilliam: that was the command I initially used and i got no errors
[01:15] <reaVer> I'll try the LTS bootable
[01:18] <Bashing-om> reaVer: Verify the .ISO file download ?
[01:19] <samwilliam> mattfly check the ``/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions´´ file, also verify any HOOK SCRIPTS
[01:19] <samwilliam>  you created.
[03:27] <reaVer> samwilliam: turns out the machine I was trying to install it on is a 32bits machine
[03:43] <Bashing-om> reaVer: Thanks for that honest feed back :D
[03:50] <sybariten> is it easy to get some sort of plaintext list of what is actually started automatically when i start my machine? (in terms of services, i mean). My objective is to see if there are two apache instances that are started, independently
[03:57] <sarnold> sybariten: it depends upon how they are started. if there's sytemd units for them both, then systemctl list-units or systemd-analyze blame may be helpful
[03:58] <sarnold> sybariten: but if one of them is started outside of systemd it'll be a lot harder to spot. pstree *might* help, if it was started by a service manager..
[03:58] <sybariten> hm, i see
[03:59] <sybariten> i think first maybe i have to find out if two different apaches are _installed_
[04:00] <qing> Is there something like nautilus-extension-xterm ?
[04:01] <sarnold> sybariten: why do you think there's multiple apaches running?
[04:01] <sybariten> sarnold: well.
[04:03] <sarnold> qing: there's something like a thousand extensions at https://extensions.gnome.org/ .. I dunno if there'd be anything specific to nautilus or xterm there, but if not there might be something similar enough to steal from?
[04:03] <sybariten> I installed this xampp package... and then after that had some trouble making apache actually running on port 8080 . So i tried some things and restarted the xampp (lampp?) service a coupla times, and noticed it had problems stopping and starting apache in the same way as the other services
[04:03] <sybariten> So i tried some other things and eventually made the ports work, but realized i could reach it both on 8080 and 80 - and getting different default server install pages, ya know?
[04:04] <sybariten> so it just seems as maybe there was already an apache(2) installed there before i installed the xampp package
[04:04] <sarnold> aha, so now the question is, is that via two apaches or via one apache with a more complex than usual config...
[04:05] <sarnold> sybariten: try running sudo ss -tlpn and looking for the two ports in question
[04:05] <sybariten> sarnold:no i think thats two different apaches. Should be noted though that the xampp package isnt installed via apt-get but rather a wget and then a specific installer , so the "system" maybe less aware of the xampp apache if i try to list packages
[04:06] <sybariten> sarnold: ok i think first i'll reboot the machine to get the default current stage
[04:06] <sybariten> brb
[04:25] <sybariten> Hmmm yeah OK so directly upon boot i can only reach the web server on one port now actually, 80. But i suspect that xampp isnt running and if i (re)start it i will also be able to reach 8080
[04:25] <sybariten> ps -aux shows at least one apache2 instance
[04:33] <sybariten> Hmmm yeah the xampp service-restarter actually says there already is another apache running
[04:35] <qing> How to add a 'open xterm' to nautilus context menu?
[04:36] <qih> Hi all, is Xubuntu, Ubuntu with XFCE DE or is it slightly different?
[04:42] <Bashing-om> qih: Ubder the hood is the same - difference is the Desktop environment and default installed apps.
[04:43] <qih> OK, good enough, thank you.
[04:43] <Bashing-om> Under*
[04:43] <qih> Is OK, oddly enough, I worked that out 8-)
[05:01] <ptah> 68.94.156.8
[05:01] <ptah> oops
[05:02] <qih> Is OK, we know you meant that
[05:02] <ptah> lol
[05:02]  * qih runs to WHOIS, DIG, Finger etc
[05:03] <ptah> thats a dns ip
[05:03] <ptah> :)
[05:03] <qih> Was going to say, is only a boring AT&T IP
[05:19] <john_rambo> Hi, I am using Ubuntu Budgie 20.04 ... I am not familiar with the Budgie desktop ....How do I adjust the desktop wallpaper ? I mean SCALED/STRETCH/CENTER ?
[05:23] <tomreyn> /join #ubuntu-budgie    and read the channel    /topic
[05:25] <john_rambo>  /join #ubuntu-budgie
[06:42] <Heston> hi guys, i was trying out an older live usb (xubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64) and I made an aditional partition on the usb stick with the remaining space after I dd the image to the usb. I then formatted the linux partition as ext4, boot into ubuntu and it proceeds to tell me the partition is either already mounted or the mount point is in use when neither are true
[06:43] <Heston> what do
[07:31] <r0str0> Hi, in a clean install of Ubuntu 20.04 after just 2 days of little use, it does not open "Settings". The system reported the error the first time, after several reboots I still can't open the system settings.
[07:33] <qwertuttyty> ubuntu-mate 18-21.04. do I understand correctly that I can't change the voltage to my own via cpufreq for the CPU? Just the frequency? cpufreq does not work properly for my processor it greatly overstates the voltage vcore. Compared to voltage in Windows. I'm not talking about that in the picture https://ibb.co/wggy6GZ. I mean, through editing a file or something?
[07:39] <qwertuttyty> AMD with windows driver for cpu, powersave for 1400hz vcore 0.912v. In ubuntu-mate poversave (1400) 1.200v. CPU max 3400Hz
[07:44] <qwertuttyty> https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-Athlon%20X4%20840%20-%20AD840XYBI44JA.html 3800Hz if turbo mode
[07:50] <r0str0> works for me after, service gdm restart, and some weird things in the login, but it's strange, it's a clean install.
[08:13] <qwertuttyty> hwinfo: core 0,1,2,3 vid 0,912v. Core voltage 0.925v. Still the difference with 1.200v
[08:13] <qwertuttyty> large (mbmon)
[08:14] <qwertuttyty>  Still the difference with 1.200v  large (mbmon)
[08:30] <qwertuttyty> 1500 hz core 0,1,2,3 vid 0.931v - ok
[08:31] <qwertuttyty> 1496Hz
[08:36] <qwertuttyty> NB VID 0.975v (1400hz), NB VID 0.993v (1496hz)
[08:36] <qwertuttyty> windows hwinfo
[08:38] <qwertuttyty> NB VID 0.994v (1496hz)
[09:28] <unixbsd_1> hello world
[09:28] <unixbsd_1> how to add PetMod MOD into .config/dhewm3    for doom3 (dhewm3)?  I try to use mods, because doom3(dhewm3) is fine but ok, quite boring.
[09:44] <AndroUser10> any command to check continuously if a wireless device is connected on local network?
[09:48] <AndroUser10> Hello
[09:48] <AndroUser10> suppose wireless device is 192.168.1.10,how can i check if that device is still connected to the network continuously from command line from say 192.168.1.12 (wired)
[09:50] <catbeard> ping ?
[09:50] <blaklistd> Good idea
[09:50] <blaklistd> Unlimited ping should be a good
[09:54] <AndroUser10> one more thing, how to get mac address from ip address in the same setup?
[09:57] <blaklistd> AndroUser10: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-scan-for-ip-addresses-on-your-network-with-linux/
[10:02] <AndroUser10> catbeard, blacklistd, thank you
[11:12] <JoeLlama> can't open .URL in ubuntu using firefox.  can't understand hows to do from website instructions... what's the trick?
[11:17] <unixbsd_1> try maybe, pkill -9 firefo* ;  firefox $HOME/.URL    ;   or maybe cleanup your $HOME/.cache/  directory
[11:22] <JoeLlama> nope I don't think that's it :(
[11:22] <JoeLlama> ah well
[11:23] <JoeLlama> gunna be a pain to fix I think.ll  there used to be a quick fix online dunno where it is now
[11:23] <JoeLlama> URL files from windows
[11:23] <JoeLlama> can't stomach windows anymore
[11:24] <JoeLlama> kept thinking I had a virus in windows until I realized..l windows is the virus
[11:25] <JoeLlama> I need to open a windows .url on firefox in ubuntu
[11:25] <JoeLlama> what's the trick?
[11:40] <unixbsd_1> JoeLlama: Linux will freedom your world and life !! welcome to free, santa freedom cruz life ;)!  !!!
[11:41] <unixbsd_1> JoeLlama: rm -rf ~/.cache ~/.config/firefo*  and give a try, maybe your cache or seomthing. otherwise, get a try : apt-get install -y dillo ;   dillo ~/.URL
[11:47] <JoeLlama> How do you open a .url file from firefox running under windows in firefox running under ubuntu?
[11:48] <unixbsd_1>   I dont uunderstand much, but maybe this :    firefox "$( cat ~/.URL )"
[11:50] <JoeLlama> hrm...  I think I am looking for a well known solution on a website someplace...  I just can't understand how to set it all up unixbsd_1 ...  thanks for the input though...
[11:50] <JoeLlama> I did find this and I am trying to understand it: bash -c "cat %f | grep -e 'URL\([[].*[]]\)\{0,1\}=' | cut -d= -f 2| xargs opera &"
[11:50] <JoeLlama> that opens it in opera
[11:50] <unixbsd_1> maybe post a screenshot ... I have not much clues your situation.
[11:51] <unixbsd_1> ah ... ok.
[11:51] <unixbsd_1> I can do it in C for you if you want. C will work.
[11:51] <JoeLlama> hrm thanks unixbsd_1
[11:51] <unixbsd_1> give me the file, I can decode it.
[11:51] <JoeLlama> heh
[11:52] <JoeLlama> well I want it to auto-open without modding them...
[11:52] <JoeLlama> I can do that in C also :)
[11:52] <JoeLlama> thanks unixbsd_1  though
[11:52] <unixbsd_1> When I hack I use C language, it is way stronger
[11:52] <JoeLlama> yeah I like C
[11:52] <unixbsd_1> if you use bash, you will sooon or later go to dead end with happy hacking. C is master for hacks
[11:52] <JoeLlama> okay I keep researching this online...
[11:52] <JoeLlama> years ago I found the fix but I dunno where that is
[11:52] <unixbsd_1> Do you want  a startup kit to learn C hacking?
[11:53] <JoeLlama> um...  no thanks unixbsd_1
[11:53] <JoeLlama> mostly when I use C I am creating embedded systems...  I don't hack much
[11:53] <JoeLlama> well not these days
[11:53] <unixbsd_1> what about a grep in C, in 25 lines only?  this pipe grep works better than grep from default linux...
[11:54] <unixbsd_1> with that startup kit you can hack maybe your file: https://termbin.com/0xpe
[11:55] <JoeLlama> hrm...  maybe later...  link looks scary (:
[11:56] <unixbsd_1> ahh keep it precious... soon or later. you will need this file.
[12:29] <SPF> How can I run slack from crontab? It doesn't start because of snap? I tried /usr/bin/snap run slack. It doesn't generate any output
[12:29] <unixbsd_1> what is slack?
[12:30] <SPF> unixbsd_1: slack is a snap application based on Electron
[12:31] <unixbsd_1> never heard
[12:31] <unixbsd_1> even electron, never heard.
[12:33] <SPF> unixbsd_1: doesn't really matter, I generally want to know how to start snap applications from crontab, unless you haven't heard of snap?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:43] <unixbsd_1> i cant help with snap. no idea, i use apt-get.
[12:59] <unknownlinuxuser> Hello!
[14:00] <willer> any blue light filter that I can control by using the mouse scrollwheel on a widget to set the colour temp?
[14:06] <lintro[m]1> How can I change the default Secret Service provider defined in /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.secrets.service as gnome-keyring?
[14:06] <lintro[m]1> They are telling me I can't edit /usr/share directly and it will be overwritten by the next upgrade to gnome-keyring
[14:06] <lintro[m]1> PROBLEM: change Secret Service default provider from gnome-keyring to something else
[16:26] <goddard> does the nvidia-smi settings affect windows?
[16:28] <oerheks> "windows" as in ms windows?
[16:29] <goddard> ya
[16:30] <oerheks> never heard of such idea
[16:31] <goddard> well it happened to me
[16:32] <leftyfb> goddard: what did you do?
[16:32] <oerheks> unlikely
[16:32] <goddard> i set the pm mode to 1
[16:32] <goddard> to persist
[16:32] <goddard> now some cuda programs aren't working
[16:32] <leftyfb> goddard: negative
[16:33] <leftyfb> "Set the persistence mode for the target GPUs. See the (GPU ATTRIBUTES)
[16:33] <leftyfb>  section for a description of persistence mode. Requires root. Will
[16:33] <leftyfb>  impact all GPUs unless a single GPU is specified using the -i argument.
[16:33] <leftyfb>  The effect of this operation is immediate. However, it does not per-
[16:33] <leftyfb>  sist across reboots. After each reboot persistence mode will default
[16:33] <leftyfb>  to "Disabled". Available on Linux only."
[16:33] <goddard> strange it seems to have had an effect
[16:34] <leftyfb> goddard: it doesn't
[16:35] <goddard> well i need some explaination
[16:35] <goddard> so far that is all i have changed
[16:36] <gnUser> How can I identify programs that might be phoning home from Ubuntu 20.04?
[16:38] <oerheks> gnUser, AFAIK none of them do, only update gives a bleep, monitor your network traffic?
[16:47] <agvantibo> Does file-roller unpack split 7-zip archives?
[16:48] <oerheks> agvantibo, if you install p7zip-full, it could?
[16:53] <agvantibo> Thanks, oerheks. Already done this. I am SMB-ing a giant split archive from a Windows PC, and want to know beforehand. I know that `7zr x first-file.7z.001` will do the trick anyway, but...
[16:56] <agvantibo> Okaay... I'll try and let you guys (and girls???) know
[16:59] <ewomer> Staying at a friends house and after rebooting Ubuntu(kubuntu) wont connect to router/modem, I have to run ' sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart' and then 'sudo dhclient' to get it to connect
[17:36] <oerheks> sudo snap install rigs-of-rods
[17:44] <remline> I added this to /etc/udev/rules.d: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="backlight", GROUP="video", MODE="0664". /sys/class/backlight is still in the "root" group. Shouldn't it have changed to the "video" group?
[17:53] <aleksei-hash> Hello everyone! So I'm new on ubuntu OS and I'm in trouble. When I'm trying to install or update something on the terminal, it says me: Updates from such a repository cannot be done securely, and are therefore disabled by default. I found none fixes on the net so could somebody help me please?
[17:53] <aleksei-hash> PS: I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 OS
[18:03] <leibniz[m]> Is there a way to make "drag tab to create window" of firefox LESS sensitive?
[18:08] <unixbsd_1> i use groovy, it works ok
[18:08] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: the apt repository which this warning is about is probably not maintained anymore, nor the software you have installed from there. we'd need to see the full output, on paste.ubuntu.com, to provide a better answer.
[18:08] <unixbsd_1> aleksei-hash: I give you my sources.list
[18:09] <unixbsd_1> you need a good /etc/apt/sources.list  ... this one works: https://termbin.com/82hr
[18:16] <aleksei-hash> Thank's! But how could I install that
[18:17] <tomreyn> unixbsd_1: this is for grooxy, aleksei-hash is on 20.04 LTS (focal)
[18:18] <tomreyn> *groovy
[18:18] <unixbsd_1> to install on debian (ubuntu), you need : sudo   apt-get install  libreoffice
[18:18] <unixbsd_1> sudo apt-get update
[18:20] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: if you can post the URLs returned by      sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999    and    apt-cache policy 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999    i think we will be able to help you fix this problem.
[18:21] <unixbsd_1> to search for a name of a package, do (for instance we search "vim" ):     apt-cache search vim
[18:21] <aleksei-hash> I installed libreoffice but I have the same error message
[18:22] <tomreyn> right, that's unrelated
[18:23] <tomreyn> i'm not sure why unixbsd_1 even brought this up
[18:24] <aleksei-hash> https://termbin.com/psar
[18:24] <aleksei-hash> This is this URL
[18:25] <aleksei-hash> And for the second one, I  have https://termbin.com/wf79
[18:25] <unixbsd_1> groetjes
[18:25] <unixbsd_1> so try another source list, maybe be is offline
[18:25] <unixbsd_1> us. is usually slow, but more stable
[18:25] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: so yuo have a PPA configured, which does not (no longer) exist
[18:26] <aleksei-hash> Oh, how can I remove it?
[18:26] <unixbsd_1> in used in be, they were sometiimes offlines. a stable one is sometimes cool to have.
[18:26] <tomreyn> unixbsd_1: editing or replacing the sources.list file is not going to help here, this PPA is most likely configured in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:26] <unixbsd_1> ah ok.
[18:27] <unixbsd_1> thx
[18:27] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: you will probably need to manually identify the apt source configuration in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ which points to this PPA
[18:27] <unixbsd_1> I use to install using deboostrap, so I do all manually.
[18:27] <tomreyn> and delete the file
[18:28] <aleksei-hash> What command should I use?
[18:29] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: sudo grep -rF 'gnome3-team/gnome3' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:29] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: this is just a command to identify the file we need to remove
[18:29] <tomreyn> it doesn't actually do it, yet
[18:30] <aleksei-hash> Ok, I have this
[18:30] <aleksei-hash> apt-cache policy 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:30] <tomreyn> ?
[18:30] <aleksei-hash> https://termbin.com/mavk
[18:30] <aleksei-hash> Sorry
[18:31] <tomreyn> sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-ubuntu-gnome3-focal.list
[18:31] <tomreyn> this will delete the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-ubuntu-gnome3-focal.list which so far configures the apt source, which no longer exists, and causes the error message
[18:32] <tomreyn> once this is done, do    sudo apt update    it should no longer report this error message then.
[18:34] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: before you decide to use any PPA, which is generally not supported here, and can break things badly, make sure you read the PPAs web page - every PPA has one.
[18:34] <tomreyn> this ones' is at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3
[18:36] <tomreyn> on these web pages, read the "PPA description" to learn what its support status is and whether it explicitly says that you cannot or should not use it.
[18:36] <aleksei-hash> Oh, it's fixed! Thank you bro))
[18:36] <tomreyn> then scroll down to "overview of published packages", and use tehe "any series" drop down to see whether this PPA actually provides packages for your Ubuntu release.
[18:37] <tomreyn> your Ubuntu release is Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, codename "focal"
[18:38] <tomreyn> you will notice that "focal" is not on the drop down list, so this PPA does not provide packages for your ubuntu release, and thus cannot be used with it.
[18:38] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: you're welcome, and please read and trey to follow the above, you'll keep running into this situation so it's really good to understand this soon.
[18:39] <unixbsd_1> what is a PPA by the way?
[18:40] <aleksei-hash> Ok ok thank's!
[18:40] <tomreyn> !PPA | unixbsd_1
[18:42] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: do you remember why you tried to add this PPA in the first place? maybe we can find a better solution?
[18:43] <aleksei-hash> Yes, I wanted to install komorebi
[18:49] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: this, right? https://github.com/cheesecakeufo/komorebi
[18:49] <unixbsd_1> ah ppa is like non-free and contrib, thx
[18:51] <aleksei-hash> Yeah
[18:52] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: this software does not seem to be packaged for ubuntu or debian (which a relevant part of the community maintained packages in ubuntu are based on)
[18:53] <tomreyn> i see how this web page points to the PPA you tried to use - but your ubuntu release is too new for it to work. it seems like this software is not well supported anymore.
[18:55] <aleksei-hash> Okk, I understand better now tnx!
[18:56] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: there are so-called "gnome (shell)  extensionsgnome extensions" which can add more functionality to gnome. on the other hand, if incompatible or badly done, they can also break your graphical desktop. which is why most of them are not supported in ubuntu or here. but if you want to give it a try nevertheless, you can try this one: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1131/desk-changer/
[18:57] <tomreyn> (it is reported to work on your ubuntu release, 20.04, in the comments)
[19:00] <tomreyn> generally, the basic functionality to change the wallpaper is also available from the "gnome tweaks" application which you can install using    sudo apt install gnome-tweaks   and run by looking for "tweaks" on the desktop menu
[19:00] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: ^
[19:02] <aleksei-hash> Yeah but I would like a live wallpaper
[19:07] <unixbsd_1> the wallpaper is powered by the desktop app, that you use like xfdesktop, kde desktop, ... and so on. Or, if you use a wm,  feh --bg-tile wallpaper.png  gives it on root of x11.
[19:08] <tomreyn> aleksei-hash: someone has made a copy of komorebi and developed it further, providing a package they say is compatible with ubuntu 20.04 now. https://github.com/Komorebi-Fork/komorebi - but I cannot tell whether this actually works, or does bad to your computer or data, and it's certianly not supported here.
[19:08] <unixbsd_1> sheep wallpaper something is live wallpaper
[19:35] <dg1727> I might be affected by https://github.com/gwsw/less/issues/108 and someone on ##linux suggested I might look for Ubuntu support about this
[19:44] <cart_man> Hey I have a request that I think will work really cool. For a release of ubuntu but first I just want to find out if it isn't already possible
[19:44] <cart_man> Soo... when you set virtual screens. I have 4 on my PC and I love it
[19:45] <cart_man> I have three screens and sometimes people want to watch stuff on the third screen which for obv reason doesn't work well because I switch quite intensively.
[19:45] <cart_man> So is there a feature that can make one screen static ?
[19:45] <cart_man> so that it doesn't swap with the rest of the Desktop selections?>
[19:50] <tomreyn> dg1727: if you run a supported ubuntu release (see /topic ) you can report a bug:
[19:50] <tomreyn> !bug | dg1727
[19:54] <tomreyn> cart_man: i don't know the immediate answer to your question, but if it refers to a recent ubuntu release, and its default gnome3 based desktop, your best option will be to look for a gnome (shell) extension which provides this functionality. note, however, that those can also break basic functionality of your graphical desktop, and (other than those packaged in ubuntu'm "main" apt repository component) aren't supported here.
[19:54] <dg1727> tomreyn: Thanks.
[19:55] <cart_man> tomreyn: I thought Virtual Desktops come standard with Ubuntu though?
[19:58] <unixbsd_1> vritual desktops are in all the X11 and in all window manager
[19:58] <unixbsd_1> kde hide the virtual desktop with newest version
[19:59] <unixbsd_1> in the past kde had virtual desktop by default, but it was way tooooo complicated for beginners
[19:59] <unixbsd_1> so in kde, go to settinggs and add 4 virtual desktops.
[19:59] <cart_man> ah so in kde you have to switch it on
[19:59] <unixbsd_1> you can also run a scrolling in Linux ;) cool effect !!
[19:59] <cart_man> unixbsd_1: I have it on yea. But I was wondering if you could choose a screen or a desktop that doesn't switch
[20:00] <cart_man> unixbsd_1: Hmmm whats scrolling?
[20:00] <unixbsd_1> you can have 1024x768 pan, and have a large desktop larger, by going on edge and it does scrolling like command commander. that's the power of linux
[20:00] <unixbsd_1> like strategic games, scrolling on edge.
[20:00] <cart_man> unixbsd_1: Ohhh I see.... Hmmm interesting
[20:01] <tomreyn> cart_man: yes, ubuntu's gnome-shell desktop supports virtual desktops by default. i don't know / think it supports the very functionality specific to virtual desktops that you are looking for outof the box.
[20:01] <unixbsd_1> in ubuntu, they have no clue how to configure it... it is possible with a regular window manager, kde blocks all those Fun's
[20:23] <unixbsd_1> cart_man: scrolling or 3d rotating, almmost anything is possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QokOwvPxrE
[20:27] <cart_man> unixbsd_1: Holy shit that is insane !
[20:28] <oerheks> but compiz is no more, grinn
[20:28] <oerheks> no wobbly windows
[20:28] <Kraus> Hello! Is there a PPA I can add to grab a Gnome package for the application Glade? The default package dates back to 2018 (3.22), but the current version is 3.38.1
[20:28] <unixbsd_1> that's nothing, we invented many things. we could also rotate the window or move them, or making them destroy in just fire to close...
[20:29] <oerheks> unixbsd_1, that is history
[20:29] <unixbsd_1> wayland will bring the success ...
[20:30] <oerheks> Kraus, use the snap https://snapcraft.io/glade
[20:30] <oerheks> unixbsd_1, i hope so, i will support wobbly wayland windows
[20:30] <unixbsd_1> end of X11, hurra.
[20:36] <cart_man> unixbsd_1: When is Wayland officialy the new display driver
[20:36] <cart_man> SW Display drive r
[20:36] <cart_man> I guess
[20:37] <oerheks> 21.04 will be default wayland
[20:37] <oerheks> but x11 session will be installed too
[20:37] <unixbsd_1> not long, the goal is to put wayland and to remove x11. bsd will keep x11, they fork it already.
[20:38] <oerheks> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/trying-wayland-by-default-again/20575
[20:51] <cart_man> oerheks: unixbsd_1 WELL if that means my Desktop can stop breaking if I have CRHOME open and switch to another desktop then I am all for it
[20:51] <cart_man> does the X11 take advantage of you GPU?
[20:51] <cart_man> silly question perhaps
[20:53] <unixbsd_1> wayland will be better for gaming
[20:53] <cart_man> unixbsd_1: does Vulkan run on it?
[20:54] <unixbsd_1> Vulkan should be ... on #linux they talk a lot about promises of vulkan
[21:10] <_z_> poophole is a funny word
[21:10] <_z_> -fact-
[21:11] <_z_> freenode is in danger of dying because of topics, im taking it to strange new places
[21:11] <oerheks> _z_ please spread your facts elsewhere. this is ubuntu support only
[21:11] <_z_> good advice
[21:15] <_z_> this channel and all of the 1104 afk useres in it
[21:15] <_z_> users*
[21:16] <_z_> good luck with them channel rules and topics tho
[21:16] <oerheks> Thanks, have fun!
[21:18] <ptah> lol
[21:20] <jayjo> when using VMs on ubuntu with virt-manager, are there negatives to oversubscribing CPUs? For example, my machine has 4 cores. i notice a VM with 2 vCPUs performs much better than 1 vCPU. Can I allocate more vCPUs than I have available? Is there any positives to doing so?
[21:28] <oerheks> jayjo, i think you can, but it is limited to the number of vcpu during install?
[21:28] <oerheks> qemu would give the max number available, AFAIK
[21:29] <tomreyn> jayjo: if the total of vcpus assigned to *running* VMs is the same or higher than actual cpu cores (or threads, i.e. AMD SMT / Intel HT) then the need to do context switching is increased, which involves somewhat costly interrupt calls, i..e VMs and the host system will start slowing each other down a bit.
[21:30] <tomreyn> but in the end, what really matters most is that every guest (and the host) system you run will run with acceptable performance (you are the measure!), so if a guest system seems to perform much better with multiple VCPUs assigned, then it's probably a good idea to assign those.
[21:34] <oerheks> redhat docs show they can hot-add a vcpu.
[21:59] <leftyfb> Dell XPS 13 with Ubuntu 20.04.2. I can't seem to get the screen to lock when closing the lid. I've tried setting in gnome with https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/CXfzhWtBYn/ . I've tried setting in logind.conf with https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/zHx3CxZp2F/ . Here is the systemd-logind log when closing and opening the lid: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/WjmkNR5KSz/     After opening the lid, I'm just back at my desktop without logging in.
[22:10] <aleksei-hash> Hello! Which free antivirus do you advise me for an ubuntu 20.04 OS??
[22:11] <tomreyn> leftyfb: login manager is gdm3, desktop is gnome-shell? X or wayland?
[22:12] <oerheks> There are anti virus product, clamav, rootkithunter and such
[22:12] <oerheks> !antivirus
[22:12] <leftyfb> tomreyn: all defaults.
[22:12] <leftyfb> aleksei-hash: I don't recommend any anti-virus for Ubuntu. It's a false sense of security
[22:12] <tomreyn> leftyfb: have you tried the same configuration on another system?
[22:13] <oerheks> aleksei-hash, you might better invesigate howto protect my browser
[22:13] <leftyfb> tomreyn: no, I don't have another laptop I can throw 20.04 onto
[22:13] <tomreyn> hmm maybe a VM could work, too, if you can simulate the lid switch
[22:14] <tomreyn> loginctl lock-sessions
[22:15] <tomreyn> though that's not really simulating a lid switch
[22:15] <leftyfb> tomreyn: I have a previous gen XPS 13 with 18.04 on it. All of the logind.conf settings are hardcoded and the dconf settings for it actually say suspend but that one locks just fine. So I assume those settings are getting ignored
[22:16] <leftyfb> tomreyn: sorry, mistyped, NONE of the logind.conf settings are hardcoded. It's left default
[22:16] <tomreyn> i see. maybe this is being inhibited there.
[22:16] <tomreyn> systemd-inhibit --list
[22:18] <leftyfb> hm
[22:18] <leftyfb> gnome-tweak-tool-lid-inhibitor 1000 leftyfb 3717 python3        handle-lid-switch         user preference       block
[22:19] <leftyfb> tomreyn: within tweaks I have the "Suspend when laptop lid closed" and disabled
[22:19] <tomreyn> you have LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=no   If "no", the inhibitor locks taken by applications are respected.
[22:19] <leftyfb> tomreyn: I tried it with LidSwitchIgnoreInhibit=yes as well, no change
[22:20] <tomreyn> and you restarted the session, not just logged out and in again?
[22:20] <leftyfb> rebooted
[22:21] <tomreyn> ok, that's all i could think of :-/
[22:21] <leftyfb> gnome-tweak-tool-lid-inhibitor is listed on my 18.04 laptop as well, so it's not that
[22:26] <leftyfb> I just set everything back to default including the gsettings back to "suspend" for everything. Closing the lid still triggers logind to output "lid closed" and "lid opened" in the log. But the laptop doesn't lock nor suspend
[22:27] <leftyfb> so apparently the gsettings and logind are both being ignored
[22:29] <ptah> leftyfb, setting them to default doesnt the problem
[22:29] <oerheks> leftyfb, do you have autologin enabled?
[22:30] <ptah> fix*
[22:30] <leftyfb> oerheks: negative
[22:30] <oerheks> oh, then it is curious
[22:30] <leftyfb> yeah. I never get the easy ones
[22:30] <ptah> leftyfb, setting them to default doesnt the fix problem
[22:31] <johnfg> hi guys
[22:32] <johnfg> I believe that the fix was done, or it's in, for firefox, but it's still not showing up in my updates.  Any idea when it's going to be released?
[22:32] <ptah> leftyfb, but im not sure what it is
[22:33] <tomreyn> johnfg: what fix, which firefox, which updates?
[22:33] <leftyfb> johnfg: what fix are you referring to? Also, maybe just wait. You will unlikely find the developers for Firefox nor the maintainers of the packages here in this chat
[22:33] <johnfg> Another - I'm in #chromium (using it because firefox won't run) asking this question as well: is there a keyboard shortcut to go either backwards or forwards on a webpage?
[22:33] <oerheks> maybe in the 87.0b9-1*now* beta https://snapcraft.io/firefox  ??
[22:34] <leftyfb> johnfg: ALT+left and ALT+right  same as in every browser on the planet
[22:35] <johnfg> tomreyn: leftyfb: I won't bother to give the bug number, but the one we discussed a while ago, and seems to be fairly prevalent.  The devs got it fixed pretty quickly, and said it would be here, but it hasn't made it.
[22:36] <oerheks> oh, and what firefox version is that fix, johnfg ?
[22:36] <oerheks> lolz
[22:36] <leftyfb> johnfg: sorry, if you want help, you'll need to give the bug number or a link. We help a lot of people here and can't be expected to remember every detail of every problem every user has ever had
[22:36] <tomreyn> johnfg: please don't take it personal, i don't remember all the details from all the previous chats i've had here
[22:36] <johnfg> leftyfb: Thanks!  I guess chromium help with the listing of keyboard shortcuts must have figured everyone knew them (except me) :-)
[22:37] <johnfg> tomreyn: Np, I didn't mean that I would *not* show it, but since the bug is fixed (so I was told), we don't need to rehash the specifics.  Does that make sense?
[22:38] <tomreyn> johnfg: to me it makes a lot of sense to discuss which fix you expect to happen, on which ubuntu release, to be shipped, when you say it hasn't been.
[22:39] <tomreyn> johnfg: generally, make sure to provide the very basic system details when you ask support questions, otherwise it's hardly possible to help.
[22:39] <tomreyn> !details | johnfg
[23:39] <quadrathoch2> is there a specific snapd help channel?
[23:43] <Bashing-om> !snap | quadrathoch2 There is a forum:
[23:46] <quadrathoch2> thanks Bashing-om :)
[23:46] <quadrathoch2> but I was rather looking for an irc channel :/
[23:49] <leftyfb> quadrathoch2: #snappy
[23:49] <Bashing-om> quadrathoch2: "alis" may have a listing. try on this server ' /msg alis list *snap* ' - ' /msg alis help list ' for help.
[23:56] <quadrathoch2> thanks to you both :) leftyfb Bashing-om