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[03:11] <michieal> Forgive me, I've not used IRC in 20 yrs (june of 2000, to be exact)... How does one get info on when Kubuntu 20.10 is going to get KDE Plasma 5.21?
[03:12] <michieal> Or, how to get it early?
[03:38] <tomreyn> michieal: i don't know whether kubuntu handles plasma differently than other packages somehow, in that there could be a bckports ppa or something, but generally, for software packaged in ubuntu releases, you will get one specific version of the software, and it will stay on this very version until you upgrade to the newer ubuntu release.
[03:38] <tomreyn> here's the plasma versions available in each of the ubuntu releases https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?exact=1&keywords=plasma-desktop
[03:38] <tomreyn> !latest
[03:38] <ubottu> Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
[03:39] <tomreyn> !hirsuite
[03:39] <tomreyn> "hirsuite" is what will be ubuntu 21.04 when it release sin april
[03:41] <kryten> !hirsute
[03:41] <ubottu> Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo) will be the 34th release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release April 2021 (http://ubottu.com/y/hh). Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions.
[03:41] <tomreyn> dang, i keep making that typo :)
[03:42] <kryten> Could add an alias for it!.. XD
[03:42] <tomreyn> better not! :)
[03:46] <michieal> okay, so Kubuntu/ubuntu goes for stability over fresh.
[03:47] <michieal> I'm running groovy/20.10 ...
[03:47] <kryten> Yeah, that's what a "stable" release is about..
[03:47] <michieal> gotcha. (I'm new to Linux.)
[03:48] <michieal> I tried out a couple of distros decades ago... but, it was so not polished.
[03:49] <michieal> Hmmn. Looks like I am "stuck" with plasma 5.19.5.
[03:50] <michieal> Is there a way to install (by hand) a the newer version? (5.21)
[03:52] <michieal> I appreciate the help, btw.
[03:57] <tomreyn> i assume there isn't. you could download an iso image of the current state of the wanna-be kubuntu 21.04 installer / live system, though
[03:58] <michieal> hmmn. Do I hav to reinstall everything, if I choose a different version of kubuntu?
[03:58] <michieal> obviously, running a live version, it runs off of that image...
[04:00] <tomreyn> you can upgrade to new releases after the upgrade path is considered stable (or before, but then the upgrade may fail)
[04:01] <tomreyn> you could also use the 21.04 installer preview to install a preview of this release on another disk, including to removable stoage.
[04:01] <tomreyn> but i wouldn't recommend relying on such  installations for your daily work
[04:02] <michieal> okay, so... that would mean that when 20.04/hirsuite is released in april, I could "upgrade" to that? or do I have to wait until 20.10 upgrades things?
[04:02] <michieal> I see... well, I'm looking for daily work, this is my work pc...
[04:03] <michieal> and, I didn't think that a Live would be suited for that
[04:05] <michieal>  what about this, can I add in the "hirsute" package repo and use that to update it? I mean, will that work? or?
[04:10] <kryten> That's in fact the worst idea between all the options.. :3
[04:11] <kryten> Then you'd be better off doing a proper version upgrade to the current devel release.
[04:12] <michieal> lol Oh.
[04:12] <michieal> Ahem. okay. I guess that I won't do that, just to get a newer kde.
[04:13] <kryten> And btw, I just checked and Plasma 5.21 requires newer things that are in the 20.10 repos.
[04:17] <michieal> *nods* It looks like it's based on 20.10, but only available for 20.04. which, is very odd to me
[04:19] <kryten> While taking into account you actually mean 21.04 with the latter, I'm still failing to see the logic in that statement..
[04:19] <kryten> https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/blob/v5.21.0/CMakeLists.txt
[04:20] <michieal> oh, I missed that. my bad
[04:20] <michieal> hmmn. okay, so I ended up with an older version of kubuntu. I see.
[04:21] <michieal> So, if i upgrade from 20.10 to 21.04, will I have to reinstall everything?
[04:22] <kryten> If by older you mean older than the last stable version of it, then no.  And no, just it would be an upgrade to a version still in development and therefore totally unsupported.
[04:24] <michieal> I see... okay. Interesting.
[04:24] <michieal> so, that mkaes it "use at your own risk" ...
[04:24] <tomreyn> long story short: you really want to just have a little patience.
[04:25] <michieal> I jsut looked. Apparently, Hirute Hippo comes out on my birthday this year
[04:27] <tomreyn> !YY.MM
[04:27] <ubottu> Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[04:29] <michieal> Cool. So, 20.10 is Oct 2020, and 21.04 is April 2021.
[04:32] <tomreyn> that's right.
[04:35] <michieal> Well, good to know that they do a date based version number, than a build only based version number.
[04:35] <michieal> It lets you know when things were made.
[04:50] <michieal> Anyway - Have a good night, everyone! And, thank you so much for the help!
[04:50] <luis_> hello. anyone here would be so kind to let mw know what is the command to add the new ubuntu mirror to upgrade my plasma version??
[04:51] <luis_> i tried using http deb but it rediirect me to https and its giving me a 404 not found
[04:53] <tomreyn> luis_: the plasma version is specific / fixed to the kubuntu release. if you want a newer plasma, you'll need to upgrade to a newer ubuntu release (or wait for a new release if there is none, yet)
[04:54] <luis_> tomreyn: i had tried upgrading and its giving me the not found , tho im trying using the packcages dot ubuntu dot com url :/
[04:54] <tomreyn> are you following some guide there?
[04:55] <luis_> tomreyn: not really, all i been doing since i started upgrading from 16.o was copy pasting, today it seems something changed and im not ABLE TO UPGRADE ANYMORE
[04:55] <luis_> ups sorry
[04:55] <luis_> keyboard issues
[04:56] <tomreyn> maybe you're making incorrect assumptions on how release upgrades work on kubuntu
[04:57] <luis_> tomreyn: okay may be im wrong. if you weeere in my place what you would recommend me to do?
[04:58] <tomreyn> post the full output of   sudo apt-get update: sudo apt-cache policy
[04:58] <tomreyn> to a pastebin
[04:59] <luis_> tomreyn: hold on
[05:00] <tomreyn> also add that of:    cat /proc/{version,cmdline}
[05:10] <luis_> tomreyn: i found the problem, i was using the wrong mirror. thanks anyway, passing by here allowed me to take a second look from far distance
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[07:18] <piceaglauca> Hey folks. I'm looking for help booting into a Kubuntu USB stick. I get an error from grub> boot -> error: unknown error.
[07:27] <guiverc> piceaglauca, you didn't provide release details, but did you verify the ISO & validate the install to media (if that's the first machine you've attempted to boot on, you can't have done that, I'd try booting it on another box, it if fails there I'd assume bad-write to media)
[07:28] <piceaglauca> guiverc, that's a good suggestion - trying it on another machine - I'll give that a go. It's a fresh ISO download, and I've tried a few times. I'm actually getting the same error on my old ArchLinux partition.
[07:31] <guiverc> the fresh doesn't tell me anything, I mean validated a checksum; eg. https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu#0 which applies equally to flavors
[07:33] <guiverc> bad download is rare in my experience, the write to media fails a lot though (5-10% maybe doesn't seem a lot, but when you do it regularly.. it's often)
[07:47] <piceaglauca> Download checksum on the download matched. Checking the disk now
[07:47] <piceaglauca> Disk md5sum matched as well
[07:49] <piceaglauca> Kubuntu 20.04.2 kubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:50] <IrcsomeBot> <Bentota> I have dual boot computer, which can't boot mbr partitioned usb stick, when selected uefi only mode in uefi setup.
[07:52] <piceaglauca> My USB stick is partitioned as gpt, and in my uefi setup, overriding boot to pick the usb stick directly does nothing - just flashes, then back to same screen
[08:08] <piceaglauca> guiverc thanks for taking the time to suggest checksum. I hadn't thought of that, so I learned something. I suspect my issue is outside the ubuntu realm.
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[11:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:29] <IrcsomeBot> <Amin Urstonks> Newb: Are there keyboard shortcuts for centering a window, also maximizing a window (not fullscreen)?
[13:02] <annacii34> Hello, i'm having some problems with the audio on my kubuntu 20.10. Substantially after a reboot i'm not able anymore to hear anysound from my computer.
[13:02] <annacii34> In the audio settings i can only see the "dummy" output interface. Anyone can help me out?
[13:18] <strix_> hello
[14:28] <tarelerulz> I'm using chrome and Google docs.  Voice to text works but not text to speech.  Is there any reason? is that a none bug? can I do anything?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> tarelerulz, maybe this will help, https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Text-To-Speech
[17:36] <sgrixti> Hi all
[17:36] <sgrixti> Can someone help me with Lakka
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[18:08] <IrcsomeBot> <DarinMiller> Sorry, I have never used Lakka....
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[23:30] <IrcsomeBot> <linuxophil> Hi guys!
[23:31] <IrcsomeBot> <linuxophil> I use Kubuntu 20.04 and want to connect to a nas share.
[23:32] <IrcsomeBot> <linuxophil> I am connected to the correct network and can ping the nas, but the smb share is not found.
[23:32] <IrcsomeBot> <linuxophil> ...when searching for it via dolphin.