[00:59] @TotalSonic [so the fix is in the dev build but not in OTA16? I am on RC channel - 2021-W10], are you sure you're on ota 16? [00:59] @Fuseteam [are you sure you're on ota 16?], shouldn't the most recent RC be the same as OTA-16?? [01:00] oh you're on rc yes the latest rc should be ota 16 👀 === losuler_ is now known as losuler [02:01] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/i3j5HI6P.null [02:01] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/sKsKxnak.null [02:01] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/kwr5g0LE.null [02:02] Oops my bad, wrong chat. I'll delete those uploads. [02:12] Anbox installers included by default … The Anbox installer is now included with Ubuntu Touch. This allows users of supported Anbox devices to use Anbox without modifying the Ubuntu Touch root filesystem. It will also prevent Anbox installations breaking with every update. … is that mean some listed device like BQ and meizu still need [02:12] to modify the partition？ [02:58] @ghostbelle [Anbox installers included by default … The Anbox installer is now included with Ub …], no. some devices may need to still flash a different boot image, but no devices need to modify the rootfs and install anything with apt, any more [03:04] @dohbee [no. some devices may need to still flash a different boot image, but no devices …], hmm, is that means BQ and meizu pro 5 still need to use its custom kernel in order to work, but for the others mentioned on the anbox documentation, it can run as is without any extra procedures … Am I right? [03:24] @ghostbelle [hmm, is that means BQ and meizu pro 5 still need to use its custom kernel in ord …], i don't recall which devices specifically need to have the boot image flashed still. afaik hammerhead and bacon don't, but i don't know about others [03:28] @Flohack [I said maybe ^^], you're my wonderwall [03:28] does the update push notification work again? … few days ago I got one on my MX4 on RC 😄 [03:52] So I'm thinking because Python2 is no longer supported, tizonia will not install any more in Libertine containers until the upgrade to 20.04 works. [03:54] So Futify is a better option for Spotify for now. [04:21] @TartanSpartan [So Futify is a better option for Spotify for now.], Futify worked very well in my brief testing of it - but I've chosen to not subscribe to Spotify, so I haven't used it in a while, since it's a "premium account only" app. [04:34] Instructions to install manually [04:36] @twoblankpages [Instructions to install manually], what are you trying to install manually? [04:36] Ub Port [04:36] on Motorola G6 Plus [04:38] @twoblankpages [on Motorola G6 Plus], You would need to port that - info on how to do that is at http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html … and … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/Intro.html … Also http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/halium_9/Halium_9_GSI_porting.html [04:42] @TotalSonic [You would need to port that - info on how to do that is at http://docs.halium.or …], Thanks G [05:11] I'm wondering if the UT Camera app has any ability to accept triggers from a Bluetooth remote, or whether this is something that would need to be added in a pr. [05:14] I don't think there is [06:48] @TotalSonic [Futify worked very well in my brief testing of it - but I've chosen to not subs …], Well then I'm grateful my brother gifted the family a shared account :) [06:58] Hello! How can I enter the local file URL to a txt or html file in home/Documents? [06:58] file://... [07:00] @mh4Speech [Hello! How can I enter the local file URL to a txt or html file in home/Document …], you mean in Morph? [07:11] Yes! I transferred over a txt file and I can not find find any app to open and copy text... [07:13] Writer, TEdit, Sturm, and Document Viewer... all with no way to simply copy text from a txt in Documents folder, not an apps sandbox local folder [07:15] @Javacookies [does the update push notification work again? … few days ago I got one on my MX4 o …], Yes should work since a few OTAs now again [07:17] @mh4Speech [Writer, TEdit, Sturm, and Document Viewer... all with no way to simply copy text …], Morph can only read files inside thee `Downloads` folder … the format for opening is `file:///home/phablet/Downloads/...` … note the 3 `/` in file: [07:17] also you can try Seabass, it's mainly for programming but it's a great text editor in general [07:18] @Flohack [Yes should work since a few OTAs now again], nice, I'd be waiting for it … I think every OTA, I'm waiting for it but I always end up just checking the update page 😆 [07:32] Thx! [07:42] @Fuseteam [ota 16 based on ubuntu 16, eh, eh?], right ota 17 will be based on ubuntu 17 😂 [07:43] @Fuseteam [ota 16 based on ubuntu 16, eh, eh?], [Edit] right, ota 17 will be based on ubuntu 17 😂 [07:44] @just_carlod [right, ota 17 will be based on ubuntu 17 😂], Oh wow so much progress ^^ [07:52] just like Apple or Samsung, once we release 20.04 … it'll be called OTA 20 no matter what comes before it 😆 [07:55] or Maybe Ubuntu Touch CurrentYerar.CurrentMonth [07:55] [Edit] or maybe `Ubuntu Touch CurrentYerar.CurrentMonth` [07:56] ota 16 would be Ubuntu Touch 21.3 [07:56] [Edit] ota 16 would be Ubuntu Touch 21.03 [08:07] Farthing_0 was added by: Farthing_0 [08:44] $ sudo systemctl restart snap.anbox.container-manager.service … Failed to restart snap.anbox.container-manager.service: No such method 'RestartUnit' … See system logs and 'systemctl status snap.anbox.container-manager.service' for details. [08:46] @mh4Speech [Hello! How can I enter the local file URL to a txt or html file in home/Document …], Firefox-esr 78 in a Libertine container can open local html files. Abiword, medit and gedit in Libertine can open and edit txt [08:49] @Golden Monk [$ sudo systemctl restart snap.anbox.container-manager.service … Failed to restart …], My internet does not work in anbox. I did some search and found this command. I dont know why it is giving this error. [08:50] systemctl status snap.anbox.container-manager.service gives "No such interface." [09:11] I haven't still received OTA 16. I'm on Pine Phone -Community Edition. … Waiting.. [09:15] @Alluviola [I haven't still received OTA 16. I'm on Pine Phone -Community Edition. … Waiting. …], You'll have to keep waiting... [09:42] i don't think OTA-16 is pushed to the pinephone [09:45] @Alluviola [I haven't still received OTA 16. I'm on Pine Phone -Community Edition. … Waiting. …], "The Pine64 PinePhone and PineTab are updated independently of the rest of these devices. The stable channel for the PinePhone and PineTab will not receive an update labeled "OTA-16". … https://ubports.com/fr/blog/ubports-blogs-et-nouvelles [09:45] -1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-16-release-3744 [09:47] And most of the times I see 2 instances of every app in anbox. [09:53] @Alluviola [I haven't still received OTA 16. I'm on Pine Phone -Community Edition. … Waiting. …], Pinephone doesn't recieve OTA at all [09:53] @Alluviola [I haven't still received OTA 16. I'm on Pine Phone -Community Edition. … Waiting. …], [Edit] Pinephone doesn't receive OTA at all [09:54] Should all supported devices other then Pine have seen the OTA-16 update ? [09:55] @matv1 [Should all supported devices other then Pine have seen the OTA-16 update ?], pinephone is mainline device and OTA is for android devices [09:55] there's no pinephone on supported device list [09:55] [Edit] there's no pinephone on list of supported device [09:55] [Edit] there's no pinephone on list of supported devices [09:55] Thanks everybody. I'm the newbiest of the newbies!!! 🤣🤣 [09:55] I know. I was asking about the other supported devices (the android based ones) [09:56] Fwd from Flohack: We are all noobs on a different level ^^ [09:56] definition of supported has always been a fuzzy one in UT land :) [09:57] more specifically: I havnt seen a stable update for my pro-5 nor for my M10 [09:57] @matv1 [Should all supported devices other then Pine have seen the OTA-16 update ?], they will until march 21 [09:57] you can force update via command [09:57] ah okay so its still rolling out ? [09:57] yeah [09:58] mhm okay. I thought that switching channels would also force it, but appearantly not [09:58] @just_carlod [you can force update via command], `sudo system-image-cli -v -p 0 --progress dots` [09:59] okay [10:00] still there is something weird going on [10:02] I had my M10FHD on the rc channel. Switched it back to stable bur wasnt getting an OTA. okay so possibly there was no image delta difference between them, I thought. [10:02] so I switched to devel, which installed correctly. [10:03] Then switched to stable but still its not pulling any stable ota image. If it wasnt yet seeing 16 it really ought to grab 15 for me but it does neither [10:04] It will probably sort itself out in a few days but it's not working as one would assume it would [10:05] [Edit] I had my M10FHD on the rc channel. Switched it back to stable but wasnt getting an OTA. okay so possibly there was no image delta difference between them, I thought. [10:11] that's indeed weird. It should always give you the latest version on that channel [10:13] @just_carlod [Pinephone doesn't receive OTA at all], it does have OTA. Mainline devices,specifically pine devices, get updates in the stable channel less frequently and they're not labeled as "OTA" if I am not mistaken. [10:20] oh now ubports.com is down as well [10:20] I DIDNT DO THAT 😃 [10:21] surely, we are not running on Azure are we? [10:21] some coders here? [10:22] @matv1 [oh now ubports.com is down as well], ah we aRE BACK [10:22] @aspdragon [some coders here?], hi, whats your question? [10:22] can I ask you some advice in DM? [10:23] to not offtop here [10:23] @matv1 [oh now ubports.com is down as well], It is up for me [10:24] if you give an indication of wht topic its about, it might help to find who you need to talk to :) [10:24] @aspdragon [can I ask you some advice in DM?], Your advice might have value for others too. [10:24] @TotalSonic [It is up for me], it crashed into a http 500 state and came back [10:25] my HW task is to write the recursive func for rising the number into the power. I did for 0 (obviously, cuz no algorithm here) and positive power. But I don't get how to write the recursion for negative power [10:27] ah right. I think there are lots of ppl that can sort you out. but that is a little off topic indeed [10:30] also depends a bit on what language you're coding in. syntaxwise [10:37] C/C++ [10:42] @aspdragon [my HW task is to write the recursive func for rising the number into the power. …], Can you transform the remaining problem into one you can solve? I.e. doing something a non-negative number of times? [10:48] well, yep, but it is about the way how to write it: X^-1, for example, is 1/X^1 [10:56] @aspdragon [well, yep, but it is about the way how to write it: X^-1, for example, is 1/X^1], How would you express that as a (recursive) function call? [10:57] something like this: … if(ex > 0) // We have to recursively multiply x on the result of multiplication of X^ex-1 while ex > 0 … { … x *= expRecursive(x, ex - 1); … } [11:01] I meant express the example you gave [11:03] I would probably express it 1 / x /= x /= expRecursive(x, ex + 1); … if it would be possible [11:04] [Edit] I probably express it 1 / x /= x /= expRecursive(x, ex + 1); … if it would be possible [11:04] [Edit] I probably express it 1 / x /= expRecursive(x, ex + 1); … if it would be possible [11:08] @aspdragon [I probably express it 1 / x /= expRecursive(x, ex + 1); … if it would be possible], I'm looking for something more like `assert(expRecursive(x, -1) == expRecursive(??, ??)` [11:08] @aspdragon [I probably express it 1 / x /= expRecursive(x, ex + 1); … if it would be possible], [Edit] I'm looking for something more like … ``` … assert(expRecursive(x, -1) == expRecursive(??, ??) … ``` [11:13] hm, what is assert doing there? I have to understand how it works 1st [11:16] That's a distraction, sorry. It just says something is true. Like your "for example ... is". [11:17] X^-1 => expRecursive(x, -1) … 1/X^1 => expRecursive(??, ??) [11:22] @just_carlod [pinephone is mainline device and OTA is for android devices], that's not true 👀 the pinephone has a different update schedule but it is still ota updates 👀 [11:22] Okay, I mean it's not the same OTA16 [11:22] [Edit] Okay, I mean it's not the same OTA-16 [11:22] @just_carlod [pinephone is mainline device and OTA is for android devices], [Edit] that's not true 👀 the pinephone has a different update schedule but it is still ota updates 👀 also https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pinephone 👀 [11:24] i mean i'm sure the pinephone also got the qt upgrade on devel, but iirc other regressions is holding stable back [11:26] @Golden Monk [And most of the times I see 2 instances of every app in anbox.], Just refreh the home screen by swiping it down and release. It will fix the double icons of Anbox apps. [11:26] @Golden Monk [And most of the times I see 2 instances of every app in anbox.], [Edit] Just refresh the home screen by swiping it down and release. It will fix the double icons of Anbox apps. [12:03] Who doesn't need 3 calculator apps? [12:03] me, i need four [12:12] Lol [12:20] (Photo, 720x597) https://irc.ubports.com/FN8RLTFv.png [12:20] I have 6 [12:23] 😂😂😂😂 [12:23] @Steve Kueffer [Just refresh the home screen by swiping it down and release. It will fix the dou …], thanks [12:28] i think i have 10 [12:28] or 9 [12:30] langreen was added by: langreen [12:31] actually, 11 [12:32] @alan_griffiths [X^-1 => expRecursive(x, -1) … 1/X^1 => expRecursive(??, ??)], I came up with such idea: … return 1 / expRecursive(x, -1 * ex); [12:33] @OmegaRogue [actually, 11], Pics or didn't happen [12:34] @aspdragon [I came up with such idea: … return 1 / expRecursive(x, -1 * ex);], 👌 [12:34] Thank you for your help :) [12:41] @Steve Kueffer [Just refresh the home screen by swiping it down and release. It will fix the dou …], Thanks didn't know it could do that! [12:57] Hisaving was added by: Hisaving [13:17] @Hisaving [Hisaving was added by: amyosx], Please change your display name [13:24] @TotalSonic [I'm wondering if the UT Camera app has any ability to accept triggers from a Blu …], might be a key presd of some kind, i think pinetime has that button maybe? the media player keys worked [13:27] @amyosx [], there are more in the store :) i put a few of the various demo/ported calcuators up ;) [13:37] This is android sadly [13:40] @amyosx [Please change your display name], Ok [13:44] @Hisaving [Ok], Please change your username [13:50] How do I add google contacts? [13:50] I have UBPORTS installed on Oneplus One [14:07] jonasmontagneri was added by: jonasmontagneri [14:08] @dhullazaran [How do I add google contacts?], you can't, cause the login in doesn't work due to compatibility issues [14:08] @dhullazaran [How do I add google contacts?], what you can do is download vcard and import [14:09] @dhullazaran [How do I add google contacts?], sadly the nextcloud account sync also doesnt support CardDav [14:17] @mateosalta [might be a key presd of some kind, i think pinetime has that button maybe? the m …], I was thinkig it would be nice to be able to use my LG smartwatch to trigger the UT Camera remotely via Telescope, but then I wondered whether it was solely something needed to be added on the Telescope side, or whether it needed support a [14:17] dded on tbe Camera side as weol. [14:20] @dhullazaran [I have UBPORTS installed on Oneplus One], You have Ubuntu Touch, made by UBBports, installed on Oneplus One. 😉 [14:20] @dhullazaran [I have UBPORTS installed on Oneplus One], [Edit] You have Ubuntu Touch, made by UBports, installed on Oneplus One. 😉 [14:26] capuche1899 was added by: capuche1899 [14:29] @Golden Monk [systemctl status snap.anbox.container-manager.service gives "No such interface."], we don't use either systemd nor snap on Ubuntu Touch. The internet in anbox should work, but my guess is you are testing things like browser, which seem to not be working (the internet isn't the issue, webviews are). there is no known solution [14:29] for this currently [14:31] @dohbee [we don't use either systemd nor snap on Ubuntu Touch. The internet in anbox shou …], I was checking fdroid app and email app. No app seems to work with internet. [14:31] @Golden Monk [I was checking fdroid app and email app. No app seems to work with internet.], odd. what device is it on? [14:32] @dohbee [odd. what device is it on?], mido [14:33] ok, so anbox is not "officially supported" on that device i think. perhaps there are still additional issues that need to be solved for that port [14:34] @dohbee [ok, so anbox is not "officially supported" on that device i think. perhaps there …], ok thanks. I get it now. [14:48] @TotalSonic [I was thinkig it would be nice to be able to use my LG smartwatch to trigger the …], you mean taking a shot right? … if it can send a keypress then I think it'll be simple to implement. There's a PR to enable the shutter button on Xperia X but the key code is very specific. Would be great if the keys can be consolidated. [14:48] Not sure if there's a standard key though which would simplify and make it work across all devices [14:52] Orgplus was added by: Orgplus [14:54] @Javacookies [you mean taking a shot right? … if it can send a keypress then I think it'll be si …], the trick is having it not be treated as an external keyboard, and having it send a sensible event [15:02] OMMMMMG!!!! [https://twitter.com/elon_musk/status/136684567676856896](https://cutt.ly/uzMCMsJ) === losuler_ is now known as losuler [15:16] FIatass was added by: FIatass [15:28] @dhullazaran [How do I add google contacts?], You can install this plug-in and add your Google account: ubencarneiro/account-plugins/releases [15:29] Sorry link was incomplete: https://github.com/rubencarneiro/account-plugins/releases [16:00] @TartanSpartan [So Futify is a better option for Spotify for now.], I tried `ncspot` too, but after a long download and build process (not kidding: several hours) it won't even load a song and crashes. Has anyone else had better luck with it on Ubuntu Touch? [16:22] @nahnah7 [sadly the nextcloud account sync also doesnt support CardDav], *yet people are working on cardDav if memory serves [16:31] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Daty … @UniversalSuperBox … the application will be ported to ubports, too probably if we get approved [16:31] [Edit] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Daty … @UniversalSuperBox … the application will be ported to ubports, too probably if we get approved … through broadway ofc [16:32] That's neat, congratulations! [16:32] Is there anything you need from me? [16:38] @UniversalSuperBox [That's neat, congratulations!], 🤞 [16:38] @UniversalSuperBox [Is there anything you need from me?], no no, just wanted to inform [16:38] also inform that broadway now works [16:39] so if you/we package gtk3 from upstream we get every gtk3 out there working on ubports [16:41] performance is way better than xmir [16:41] close and open again? [16:53] @Reutzceeh Permanen [close and open again?], pardon? [16:58] @TotalSonic [Firefox-esr 78 in a Libertine container can open local html files. Abiword, medi …], Morph does it with file:///home/phablet/Downloads/ [16:58] @TotalSonic [Firefox-esr 78 in a Libertine container can open local html files. Abiword, medi …], [Edit] Morph does it with file:///home/phablet/Downloads/ Thx! [18:43] @dvorak [also inform that broadway now works], is there a reason to use Broadway as opposed to Wayland? [18:44] GTK+3 Wayland works on UT (including Android devices, as it uses shm and not EGL buffers), but needs some solution with virtual keyboard and probably bugfixes for touch events [18:50] @NotKit [is there a reason to use Broadway as opposed to Wayland?], Well if wayland works with hw acceleration of course not [18:51] @dvorak [Well if wayland works with hw acceleration of course not], broadway is the render-in-browser stuff right? it would not be hw accelerated [18:52] @NotKit [GTK+3 Wayland works on UT (including Android devices, as it uses shm and not EGL …], Lots of the applications included are really old and most of them are not responsive. Don't know the current status with wayland but when I used them with xmir it was just unusable. It made the phone clog and crash after a while. With wayland I st [18:52] ill haven't encountered that. [18:52] @dohbee [broadway is the render-in-browser stuff right? it would not be hw accelerated], No but performance and animations are supersmooth [18:52] also gtk+3 in 16.04 has mirclient support, so should mostly work ok anyway [18:53] I still didn't make any video becaune I asked bw to talk about it, see if that's gonna happen [18:53] it's only a problem if you explicitly need a newer gtk+ which no longer has mirclient, or such [18:53] yeah, xmir is also not accelerated [18:54] @dohbee [it's only a problem if you explicitly need a newer gtk+ which no longer has mirc …], i don't remember when and if got deprecated in some gtk3 release [18:55] In any case I'm now running it from a remote server because is faster than opening it locally, and since it's a webview doesn't use much resources too [18:56] I wanted to package daty on ubports but the task was too heavy since I had to build gtk3/libhandy inside the container [18:57] Also since everything else was already crashing and xmir was already deprecated for wayland, I just waited for broadway adding mobile touch events [18:59] I tried running remote programs in xmir, too but the result was basically the same [19:00] broadway seems like a good compromise for the time being [19:02] In gtk4 there is more native stuff and not everything is a stream-like thing but rn I can't manage to run it, still. [19:15] (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/Nz4tEQrp.png [19:17] @Ted Rendol [], Device? [19:19] I pray everything is ok, thank you gentlemen;-) [19:19] @NikosPantelaros [Device?], Nexus 5 ota 16 [19:19] @Ted Rendol [Nexus 5 ota 16], Thanks [20:18] Przemek was added by: Przemek [20:31]