 @TartanSpartan ["Meizu Pro 5 devices that are sold with Android have a locked bootloader, so ins …], Also - some of the ones sold with Android have unlocked bootloaders already as well (I received two like this from one seller in fact)
 Is it possible to remove any of the Android apps included in Anbox? Cause some of them don’t work, and others are unnecessary since UT has an equivalent native app.
[00:42] <caliel> good morning (UGT)
[00:42] <caliel> anybody up?
[00:42] <caliel> I am trying to install anbox following https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html
[00:43] <caliel> I flashed my hammerhead following the guide
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/lS0KfaRw.png
[00:43] <caliel> but when... phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ anbox-tool install
[00:43] <caliel> I receive this: bash: anbox-tool: command not found
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Aqdt37wa.png redmi 4x 😍
[00:44] <caliel> any help for me?
[01:17] <caliel>  i cannot install snapd either
 @caliel [i cannot install snapd either], Its not posible to install snapd in UT, I think. For Anbox, your device need to be a supported one.  … https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html#android-apps … Also, you can install snaps in a Libertine container, but I do not recomend it.
[01:41] <caliel> it seems Nexus 5 (hammerhead) is a supported device
[01:41] <caliel> but now I think I did a mess with my Nexus, I cannot boot it lol
[01:41] <caliel> I tried a sudo apt update
[01:41] <caliel> now I cannot reboot lol
[01:41] <caliel> what can I do? :)
[01:44] <caliel> anyway, how can I re-install ubports?
[01:54] <caliel> it freezes on "Flashing Firmware"
[01:56] <caliel> thank you!
 @TartanSpartan ["Meizu Pro 5 devices that are sold with Android have a locked bootloader, so ins …], Oh awesome they added the note
 Caliel you should not use apt by default
 [Edit] Caliel you should not use apt by default, it is not supportes
 [Edit] Caliel you should not use apt by default, it is not supported
 As for why you are unable to reinstall, that is odd; we'll need more info however: does dab devices see you device?
 @caliel [it seems Nexus 5 (hammerhead) is a supported device], yes. what image do you have though? if you installed stable channel and got OTA-15 instead of 16 (which is currently in phased release), anbox-tool will not yet be available by default
[05:30] <ubptgbot> Obiwan was added by: Obiwan
[05:39] <ubptgbot> <Buzz Cut> And it actually is
 @AaronTheGuy [Hello everyone, Im the dev of a Gemini client called Gem and recently ran into a …], Hi Aaron, thank you for your work. Maybe you'll have a better luck asking for testing your app in this channel which is precisely created at that purpose: @ubports_qa_team
 Hi guys, I am actually new to ubuntu touch. Can anyone help me out on how i can use signal in tphobe
 *phone
 @akshithsbalan [Hi guys, I am actually new to ubuntu touch. Can anyone help me out on how i can …], Look in Open Store for Axolotl, that's the UT client app for Signal. And welcome here :)
 @C0n57an71n [Look in Open Store for Axolotl, that's the UT client app for Signal. And welcome …], Thank you 😊
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 Anbox install guide on UT moved to Gitlab: https://gitlab.com/Xray2000/Anbox-on-Volla-Phone
 Good info here
[10:19] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @JIHP334 [Is it possible to remove any of the Android apps included in Anbox? Cause some o …], An easy way is to go to Anbox settings, => apps; and disable all apps you don't need. Be aware that some of them are needed to make Anbox working (keyboard, files, appmgr, webview shell, etc...) … Than reboot the device.
[10:37] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> When the realize candidate becomes stable, should I manually switch to stable in shannel settings? The question may be stupid but ....
 @Ted Rendol [When the realize candidate becomes stable, should I manually switch to stable in …], The question isn't stupid. But... … You are probably the only person here who knows why you were on the release channel, and whether that reason still applies.
[11:23] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @alan_griffiths [The question isn't stupid. But... … You are probably the only person here who kno …], Oneplus 3/3T check rc camera status, battery indicator and call echo.
 @Ted Rendol [When the realize candidate becomes stable, should I manually switch to stable in …], its up to you, the only real difference between rc and stable is how often it is updated
[12:23] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @Fuseteam [its up to you, the only real difference between rc and stable is how often it is …], Figuratively, when for example ota 16 becomes stable and I don't want to follow rc ota 17 I have to switch to stable. Ok, thanks guys
 Hey, guys. I need a C-help once again
 probably DM would be the best way to evade off-top
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 @TartanSpartan ["Meizu Pro 5 devices that are sold with Android have a locked bootloader, so ins …], Well if you have a procedure that reliably and repeatedly ensures proper unlocking for all users after which they can use the UBports Installer to switch then please document it and we can adapt the docs. … Problem is if we give foggy stat
[12:40] <ubptgbot> ements like its possible probably if you try hard enough then there is no value for the user. And we will get bad press and a ton of support questions we can handle. … We found this devices particulary hard to unlock and we saw a lot of people struggling with this. So if you are Joe Average its better to say we cannot unlock those devices (reliably
[12:40] <ubptgbot> ) and be done with it.
 @Ted Rendol [Figuratively, when for example ota 16 becomes stable and I don't want to follow …], fwiw there won't be an ota-17 rc for a while but there will be an new rc each week until it is time for ota-17
 @Flohack [Well if you have a procedure that reliably and repeatedly ensures proper unlocki …], it is so hard to flash those things, have to hack them to death and back
 @mateosalta [it is so hard to flash those things, have to hack them to death and back], i know
 @TartanSpartan ["Meizu Pro 5 devices that are sold with Android have a locked bootloader, so ins …], [Edit] Well if you have a procedure that reliably and repeatedly ensures proper unlocking for all users after which they can use the UBports Installer to switch then please document it and we can adapt the docs. … Problem is if we give fog
[12:47] <ubptgbot> gy statements like its possible probably if you try hard enough then there is no value for the user. And we will get bad press and a ton of support questions we cant handle. … We found this devices particulary hard to unlock and we saw a lot of people struggling with this. So if you are Joe Average its better to say we cannot unlock those devices (
[12:47] <ubptgbot> reliably) and be done with it.
 now how i update my fork of the devices page so i can contribute again 🤔
 then it needs certain exact versions of some android apps to unlock, you need t sign up for a meuzu account(which their page is buggy) on a certain version of the chinese rom, then install busybox, supersu(all specific versions) and somehow install google keyboard, because the builtn keys you need to type what you need in terminal, uni
[12:54] <ubptgbot> nstall and reinstall varrious su apps to get 'root' that doesnt really work, try various root apps, finally get root and hack a value to trick it to the eu version, then flash a specific rom that is a leeked dev version that allows oem unlocking, finally unlock, install twrp, erase partitions to resize cache, and install ;)
 that is the process as i know it
 oh, it might not like the bootloader in the installer, so there was a now deleted manual instalation page ubports had up that was nessary to get a downloaded bootloader from there, and use the ubuntu-device-flash to with
 i think many gave up on the part where you install the chinese version to create a meizu account
 @TartanSpartan any comments xD
 so yeah is 'possible' and i think there was still a ebay reseller, one of my favorite ubuntu touch devices(second to volla now ;)
 Hi. I have a quick question. If I install an Android app store inside Anbox (Fdroid, Aurora, etc.) will the store be able to update my Android apps, or will I have to keep using the terminal?
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[13:53] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @JIHP334 [Hi. I have a quick question. If I install an Android app store inside Anbox (Fdr …], Aurora doesn't work on Anbox, but Fdroid does. Apps will be updated
[13:54] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> Also possible to use Yalpstore (must choose FP2 in Yalpstore settings as default device)
 @Steve Kueffer [Aurora doesn't work on Anbox, but Fdroid does. Apps will be updated], aurora store or aurora droid?
[14:09] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> Aurora store I think. Not tested Aurora Droid
 I’m having a problem with Anbox. It started suddenly, but everytime I open an Android app the AOSP keyboard shows up taking half the screen. I can’t get it to go away and it’s actually interfering with F-Droid. Does anyone know how to keep this from happening?
 I tried force stopping the keyboard in the settings. It’ll work, but the keyboard shows up again after I switch screens.
 (Video, 389s) https://irc.ubports.com/gVhWy4ei.mp4 More amazing people speaking out! This lady rocks! 💖
 such things are not appropriate @ccarolcc
 Rodney sorry seems that I sent to this group by mistake while forwarding to others
 I had to do a 2 hour drive into an unfamiliar area yesterday and Volla and uNav handled it excellently.  Had a gps lock in 30 seconds, and tracking was on point the entire trip, with audio directions given in a timely manner.
 [Edit] Real world daily driver test report: I had to do a 2 hour drive into an unfamiliar area yesterday and Volla and uNav handled it excellently.  Had a gps lock in 30 seconds, and tracking was on point the entire trip, with audio directions given in a timely manner.
 This is way better than my experience trying to use OnePlus One for turn by turn navigation - most often with that device I would not be able to get a gps lock, or if I did, maintain it.
 wow that's great to hear … I almost never get to use navigation but it's nice to know that it can be reliable..at least on Volla
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[17:39] <ubptgbot> <Mertcan herolte> i need ril fix for galaxy s7
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 Hi all
 @TotalSonic [This is way better than my experience trying to use OnePlus One for turn by turn …], Sounds like my experience with E5 (almost unusable) and Xperia X (working well). Although I found PureMaps instructions better than uNav. Might depend on the area though.
 @Danfro [Sounds like my experience with E5 (almost unusable) and Xperia X (working well). …], I have Pure Maps installed as well, but the uNav gui just feels a lot easier for me to use - think I just need to spend a little bit of time learning Pure Maps. It's nice to have a couple of good UT native options for this now
 @Javacookies [wow that's great to hear … I almost never get to use navigation but it's nice to k …], The reliability is also deondent on your mobile carrier and its compatibility with your device too. Luckily things are now working out well for me with the Volla in my area.
 @TotalSonic [I have Pure Maps installed as well, but the uNav gui just feels a lot easier for …], True. uNav look simpler UIwise. But you get used to PureMaps too. Good we have a choice... 👍
 @Javacookies [wow that's great to hear … I almost never get to use navigation but it's nice to k …], [Edit] The reliability is also dependent on your mobile carrier and its compatibility with your device too. Luckily things are now working out well for me with the Volla in my area.
 I found uNav instructions quite short and far to late e.g. too close to a junction.
 @Danfro [I found uNav instructions quite short and far to late e.g. too close to a juncti …], Yeah, the audio instructions for uNav are very limited, especially in comparison to Google Maps. I have my phone up on a car stand so I can view it quickly while still staying focused on the road. But in my cases, the directions were given wit
[18:27] <ubptgbot> h enough ahead of time to still be useful.
 speaking of puremaps i feel like i was supposed to file a bug report but never got around to it 🤔
 Hello, is this the correct group to get help regarding the installation of Ubuntu Touch on Sony Xperia Compact X?
 I'm trying to use the ubports installer to do it but every time it gets to the "Pushing Ubuntu Touch files" part my phone goes into "Ubports recovery" and then randomly reboots stopping the whole process
 I tried to click "try again" but it doesn't do much, the phone rn keeps rebooting to ubports recovery and after about 10-15seconds it reboots
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 @SuaIminenciaMelfisto [Hello, is this the correct group to get help regarding the installation of Ubunt …], The group for help with installs is at https://t.me/WelcomePlus/
 aight ty
 @SuaIminenciaMelfisto [I'm trying to use the ubports installer to do it but every time it gets to the " …], it should reboot into recovery, why are you concluding it is random?
 Does anyone know whyI can’t add google accounts through the account manager thing?
 @JIHP334 [Does anyone know whyI can’t add google accounts through the account manager thin …], Cuz google
 @Fuseteam [it should reboot into recovery, why are you concluding it is random?], it reboots after having booted recovery as i understand
 Wait for proper explanations
 xD
 @amyosx [Wait for proper explanations], that was basically it
 @dohbee [that was basically it], I mean yeah
 eh? me?
 @amyosx [Cuz google], ... … Why does this answer make so much sense?
 Lol
 @JIHP334 [... … Why does this answer make so much sense?], https://github.com/ubports/account-plugins/issues/40
 It is essentially the reason
 @JIHP334 [... … Why does this answer make so much sense?], google have been increasingly preventing third party app login
 well technically tis embedded webview login afaiu
 it seems to still work on the desktop fwiw
 [Edit] it seems to still work on the desktop ubuntu fwiw
 no idea what they did tho
 Ok. Google being their usual @$$ selves.
 calm down tis just google being google
 I just thought it was weird since their CalDAV worked fine.
 badum tss
 wait caldav works fine?
 doesn't that work through the accounts plugin?
 @Fuseteam [wait caldav works fine?], Yeah?
 .........weird
 I mean, yeah I’ve got Google Calendar working fine through CalDAV. Everything syncs perfectly.
 @JIHP334 [I mean, yeah I’ve got Google Calendar working fine through CalDAV. Everything sy …], Until it breaks again ^^
 @Flohack [Until it breaks again ^^], Well this is definitely something to look forward too...
 @JIHP334 [Does anyone know whyI can’t add google accounts through the account manager thin …], there is a deb package floating around that might help
 i think google is planning on remiving caldev eventually?
 @mateosalta [there is a deb package floating around that might help], I thought Ubuntu Touch didn’t work with debian installers.
 sure it does, just not any deb will work ;)
 so we say not supported as to not give misleading ideas
 @mateosalta [i think google is planning on remiving caldev eventually?], Rumors. They made it more secure so that we cannot use it anymore
 Why they would relax this again ^^
[19:40] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/JCNrHNND.txt
 The only future proof solution is simply to "de-Google" - setup a NextCloud account either with your own server, or if lazy like me, via a third party host like OwnCube.com - sync Calendar via CalDav (I use Thunderbird Lightning on Windows desktop, and Gnome Calendar on Ubuntu-flavors latptop and tablet on the other end of this) - and
[19:44] <ubptgbot> get your own domain for email  (I use Bluehost.com for mine), or use a decent service like Proton or Tutanota.  For Contacts, simple enough to make regular backups manually via vcf export/import, and share those via NextCloud.
 NextCloud can obviously take the place of Google Drive as well.  For Google Docs and Google Sheets - Libre Office substitutes nicely.
 Of course - if one is forced by your into using Google's services in order to stay connected with ones work, then you might not have choices in this.  Still, if you are someone that is self employed such as myself, with a little effort, it's easy to have just as much functionality as Google's services provide, without having to depend
[19:48] <ubptgbot> on an ethically questionable corporation's decisions in order to still  have this working well into the future.
 @TotalSonic [Of course - if one is forced by your into using Google's services in order to st …], 👏
 Have to say - it would indeed be awesome to get CardDav / WebDav sync going in UT so that Contacts sync and backups could be done automatically via NextCloud.  I know that a "hackathon" was attempted for this a few months ago, but had to be cancelled due to covid concerns.  Here's hoping that this can be addressed in the future, despit
[19:54] <ubptgbot> e work having to be focused on the upgrade to 20.04 base.
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/JL9JlYgH.png
 can someonetell me what i did wrong?
 APK corrupt
 or wrong arch
 but yeah seems invalid
 oh no, the path is wrong
 you are in `home/phablet` already, and also you would need `/home/phablet/` for full path
 @JIHP334 [can someonetell me what i did wrong?], Download the apk again,
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/YP0iR7tx.png
 @dohbee [you are in home/phablet already, and also you would need /home/phablet/ for full …], It worked, thanks!!
 Sorry about such a dumb mistake. My command line knowledge is limited to running apt install, apt purge, apt-get autoremove, and choco install.
 I've put up a post in the forums but I thought I'd try here too. I'm looking for anyone using the Pixel 3a with working MMS to post their APN settings here: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5866/mms-issues … thanks.
 @JIHP334 [Sorry about such a dumb mistake. My command line knowledge is limited to running …], That mistake is not dumb, it's all part of the learning curve when using Terminal commands.
 @lonerider_one [I've put up a post in the forums but I thought I'd try here too. I'm looking for …], Don’t have that phone, but to clarify. Are you asking for the APN of a specific carrier, or any carrier that has working MMS?
 @TotalSonic [Of course - if one is forced by your into using Google's services in order to st …], 👍 Nextcloud all the way for Contacts \ Calendar \ File Sync \ RSS Feeds \ Talk Chat Client \ Notes etc... The only thing it doesnt replace is email but that can be got elsewhere.
 @TotalSonic [Of course - if one is forced by your into using Google's services in order to st …], [Edit] 👍 Nextcloud all the way for Contacts \ Calendar \ File Sync \ RSS Feeds \ Talk Chat Client \ Notes etc... The only thing it doesnt replace is email but that can be got elsewhere.  UT currently includes most of the aforementioned func
[20:25] <ubptgbot> tionality.
 My Nextcloud provider has integrated email using Rainloop (I think it’s called). And I saw a tutorial on how to get email on Nextcloud with Mailcow.  … I only remembered the last one cause I thought it looked funny.
 Ok, nice one.  I host my own Nextcloud and just use email services from my domain provider.
 Do you know how to enable predictive text on Morph Browser?? On text input field, comments section on a forum, for example
 @LGeek [Do you know how to enable predictive text on Morph Browser?? On text input field …], Is it enabled in 'System Setting' -> Language & Text -> Word suggestions?
 there needs to be additional work done to enable it with qtwebengine
 not something you can just toggle on the phone currently
 ah I see.
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 @dohbee [there needs to be additional work done to enable it with qtwebengine], Didn't know, thank you.
 @dohbee [it reboots after having booted recovery as i understand], yep
 it reboots to recovery, stays around 20 seconds there and reboots back to recovery
 on an infinite cycle
 I don't think this is supposed to happen as everytime it reboots the installer tells me it got disconnected and for me to try again and then restarts doing the same thing
 never being able to finish it due to the reboots
 Sometimes that can be solved by trying a different cable.
 I'll try! ty c:
 it seemed random at first but now it seems to be consistently around 20 seconds-23seconds
 In my case it kept disconnecting and I thought it could not be the cable but it was.
 @JIHP334 [Don’t have that phone, but to clarify. Are you asking for the APN of a specific …], Any carrier with working MMS specifically for Halium 9 devices.
 @JIHP334 [I thought Ubuntu Touch didn’t work with debian installers.], it does buuut the rootfs is readonly by default and updates are based on disk images so those changes are overwritten when you do an ota update
 @TotalSonic [NextCloud can obviously take the place of Google Drive as well.  For Google Docs …], google docs/sheets -> nextcloud onlyoffice or nextcloud collabora office xD
 @TotalSonic [Have to say - it would indeed be awesome to get CardDav / WebDav sync going in U …], pretty sure webDav already works, see ghostcloud :)
 @Fuseteam [pretty sure webDav already works, see ghostcloud :)], Cool, will check that out - but CardDav would be nice to have to Contacts syncing more streamlined for sure
 I remember some of you have Telegram working with Fluffychat, how can I do that? Do you recommend doing so?
 @JIHP334 [Sorry about such a dumb mistake. My command line knowledge is limited to running …], warning: do not use apt update/upgrade on ubuntu touch
 @wayneTBT [👍 Nextcloud all the way for Contacts \ Calendar \ File Sync \ RSS Feeds \ Talk …], a nextcloud talk client will be interesting yeah, but rss feed? hmmm
 @Fuseteam [warning: do not use apt update/upgrade on ubuntu touch], Yeah, I know. The mobile and desktop aren’t the same. Just giving an example of how little I know  about Terminal commands.
 @Fuseteam [a nextcloud talk client will be interesting yeah, but rss feed? hmmm], Too retro for you?
 I recently installed uRsses UT app on my phone and it works quite nicely with my Nextcloud News feeds.
 I couldnt get Newsie to work with my setup for some reason.
 @TotalSonic [Cool, will check that out - but CardDav would be nice to have to Contacts syncin …], yeah cardDav needs work hehe
 @wayneTBT [Too retro for you?], not really, just not sure how that would work
 @wayneTBT [I recently installed uRsses UT app on my phone and it works quite nicely with my …], so far URsses seems to be my favorite of the number of UT RSS clients available.  I like SimpleRSS as a close second though.
 @wayneTBT [I recently installed uRsses UT app on my phone and it works quite nicely with my …], ohw cool
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/9h4l6vPs.deb
 oh that posted late
 @JIHP334 [I thought Ubuntu Touch didn’t work with debian installers.], here ^