[01:50] <ubptgbot> <Ashic Vivo> Is it possible to install ubuntu touch in Redmi note8. … Why redmi note 8 is not included in ubports.(saw a video about installing UT in Redmi 8)
 @Ashic Vivo [Is it possible to install ubuntu touch in Redmi note8. … Why redmi note 8 is not i …], Redmi 8 and Redmi note 8 are two completely different devices
 if it is not included on devices.ubuntu-touch.io it is simply not easily installable
[01:54] <ubptgbot> <Ashic Vivo> Ok
[01:55] <ubptgbot> <David Moss> Thank you so much🙏🙏
[02:22] <sebsebseb> hi
[02:23] <sebsebseb> not sure if anyone is here right now probably not
[02:23] <sebsebseb> but WOW
[02:23] <sebsebseb> just read that
[02:23] <sebsebseb> Ubports now supprots andbox awesome :)
[02:29] <sebsebseb> https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-touch-ota-16-released-support-for-samsung-galaxy-s3-neo-many-improvements
[02:29] <sebsebseb> all good stuff mentioend there :)
[02:31] <sebsebseb> not sure if the MS 4 is supported
[02:31] <sebsebseb> or bq
 Neither is
[02:33] <sebsebseb> yeah i just got onto a page
 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html#supported-devices
[02:33] <sebsebseb> yep i think thats what i just saw
[02:33] <sebsebseb> i do have a table
[02:33] <sebsebseb> and a broken tablet
[02:33] <sebsebseb> tablet
[02:34] <sebsebseb> the white tablet  broke  hardware is all joiend p and uh, the guy coudnt' fix it, if i connected to nexdock would kind of work but not really as a tablet,  do have a black one as well that i treid to put ubports on last year or the year before but issue with the installer then
[02:35] <sebsebseb> could try again
[02:35] <sebsebseb> but yeah i had been wondering about andbox for ages
[02:35] <sebsebseb> why does it only work on certain devices ?
[02:36] <sebsebseb> oh is ubptgbot a bot hmm
[02:36] <sebsebseb> i was just talking to a bot?  or  noo no   that's the link thing isn't it UnivrslSuprBox
 No, it's a bridge
[02:36] <sebsebseb> yeah from telegram ?
[02:36] <sebsebseb> or whatever it was
 Correct
[02:36] <sebsebseb> I still haven't used telegram actsaully   or whatsapp
[02:37] <sebsebseb> so why does andbox need speicific devices, and i know it's a differnet project really
 Anbox requires kernel patches to work on a device. We didn't port it to the older/lower spec ones.
[02:37] <sebsebseb> why not to the older ones ?
 Even the relatively higher spec devices listed there choke on it.
[02:37] <sebsebseb> oh
[02:37] <sebsebseb> choke depending on which app trying to run I assume you mean as well ?
 Low spec devices would be hell to use it on.
 No, any app
[02:38] <sebsebseb> why didn't you go another way for android app support if it's like that, like Jolla Sailfish OS do it their way using whatever it was, and Tizen has it's own thing too
[02:38] <sebsebseb> so andbox runs a bit crappy really on these devices?  but might work well enough for say whatsapp ?
 Sailfish's is closed source
 The 1GB RAM devices would almost certainly run out of memory
[02:39] <sebsebseb> i see
[02:40] <sebsebseb> i don't remember but i gues the mx 4 is 1gb as well or 2gb ?
 The MX4 is just a pain to work with. No way around it. And it isn't terribly common, so getting testing with it can be difficult.
[02:41] <sebsebseb> the meizu pro 5 if can pick one up i guess will be cheaper now
[02:41] <sebsebseb> if can get one some wehre
[02:41] <sebsebseb> also andbox via ubports on the pinephone I guess is out too :D
 Nah. It'll be hard to find the pro 5 Ubuntu edition. Don't try to get Ubuntu Touch on the android version, it's not worth it.
[02:42] <sebsebseb> no
[02:42] <sebsebseb> yeah i thought at the time that it was only a bit better than the mx 4 really
[02:42] <sebsebseb> and that was meant to say no ?
[02:43] <sebsebseb> still i should probably upgrade the mx  4 again, not used ubports for a while
[02:43] <sebsebseb> and someehting worth it might of changed
 It would be less effort to carry a cheap Android phone and/or wait for us to get Anbox images out for more devices
[02:43] <sebsebseb> hows the re basae on 20.04 coming along as well ? looks like that's neray ready going by the article
 https://devices.ubuntu-touch.Io probably has way more devices now than last you looked.
[02:44] <sebsebseb> oh  I got a few phones for sure, but they aren't quite set up with hte other softwares yet
[02:45] <sebsebseb> goole pixel 3a hmm  working on that
[02:45] <sebsebseb> and the volla phone i dind't crowd fun that, but  seemed a bit interesting
 No, 20.04 is not near ready... But we're doing quite a lot of work on it
 I hope that article writer didn't misunderstand and think OTA-17 would be based on 20.04
[02:46] <sebsebseb> yeah that's  how i read it too i think or kind of
 Oh great. Sorry, my bad writing.
[02:47] <sebsebseb> who you or them ?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> a 20.04 base should be nice,  espeically with 16.04 runing out of it's main support soon
[02:48] <sebsebseb> I remember asking that question basically befoer i thinik,  ok 16.04 base nice, but what will you do when that runs out of support, and it was like we will see at the time
 No, that article's writer seems to understand correctly.
[02:48] <sebsebseb> are you in the us or something ?
 Yes
 We never thought that we'd stay on 16.04 forever, but we did know that there was a lot more work to do before we could move off.
[02:50] <sebsebseb> yes and I rmember when 15.04 was no longer supported on the destktop, but it was in ubuntu touch for longer
 And that remained true. Looking back now, I don't think there would be a way for us to move off 16.04 earlier without forgoing some of the things we gained, like the PinePhone or Volla Phone preinstalls.
 Alright, I really need to stop working. Have a great evening. :)
[02:50] <sebsebseb> yeah whre you from us ?
[02:50] <sebsebseb> that's the thing too it seems, you re base and some of hte old things go or have to change
 well sure but we did gain quite a bit in the time we stuck to 16.04 :3
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 What does it mean to have these APNs highlighted? Just so that "Reset all APN settings" would apply to both of them? Or something else?
 @TartanSpartan [What does it mean to have these APNs highlighted? Just so that "Reset all APN se …], I believe it would be both of them as it should control mobile data which affects MMS.
 Good info, thanks.
 @Flohack [Well if you have a procedure that reliably and repeatedly ensures proper unlocki …], It's true, it's very hard to do, and I would probably have to document from fresh with a third device to get that going. So yes I agree with most of what you're saying here.
 @Fuseteam [@TartanSpartan any comments xD], As I said :) It's "nails" as the saying goes, but when my Meizu Pro 5's USB ports worked I did love those devices, and all the moreso for their 32GB extra storage over the bespoke Ubuntu Edition.
 How does sleep work
 @Fuseteam [@TartanSpartan any comments xD], [Edit] As I said :) It's "nails" to accomplish as the saying goes, but when my Meizu Pro 5's USB ports worked I did love those devices, and all the moreso for their 32GB extra storage over the bespoke Ubuntu Edition.
 @Flohack [Well if you have a procedure that reliably and repeatedly ensures proper unlocki …], [Edit] It's true, it's very hard to do, and I would probably have to document from fresh with a third device to get that going. So yes I agree with most of what you're saying here. But scrolling below your message, looks like @mateosalta g
[05:51] <ubptgbot> ot the meat of it there.
 @mateosalta [i think many gave up on the part where you install the chinese version to create …], Both of mine already had the Chinese version, as I bought them from that country.
 @LGeek [Do you know how to enable predictive text on Morph Browser?? On text input field …], This is not necessarily a good feature to be missing at this point in time- when predictive text was active for things like Pesbuk, it could get very frustrating trying to edit stuff you wrote due to bugs. Hopefully the next implementation w
[06:01] <ubptgbot> ill be up to scratch, but until then we just have to manually type and hope that our spelling is good.
 @sebsebseb [i don't remember but i gues the mx 4 is 1gb as well or 2gb ?], There is "unofficial" support for using Anbox on the MX4 on the forum, and I presume it still works as it should (not that the standard of Anbox is great on any device). I might be trying this myself in the coming days with my resurrected MX4..
 @UniversalSuperBox [Nah. It'll be hard to find the pro 5 Ubuntu edition. Don't try to get Ubuntu Tou …], i'd have to throw a YMMV on that last sentence.
 @TartanSpartan [This is not necessarily a good feature to be missing at this point in time- when …], do you know where and how it was disabled on QtWebEngine? … I wonder if it'll work better now since some OSK properties generally works better now
 Afraid not, I haven't been following the commits to be able to say. I hope your prediction will turn out correct :)
 ah it's fine, I though I was replying to @mateosalta  😅 … I believe he knows many things about morph and QtWebEngine
 @TartanSpartan [This is not necessarily a good feature to be missing at this point in time- when …], In fact, when i try to post a new tweet and I want to delete a character the keyboard disappear, weird bug, I need to type very carefully 😅
 yeah, that's a known bug and twitter's tweet field is one of the affected. It can be annoying 😅
 @Javacookies [yeah, that's a known bug and twitter's tweet field is one of the affected. It ca …], In SailfishOS, is an app called Piepmatz, a Twitter Client, hope to have it in Ubuntu Touch. Porting an app is dificult? where i need to look at to learn? Source code for the app is available on github. Also miss the Telegram clients, there ar
[07:28] <ubptgbot> e some very complete clients in Sailfish.
 if they use Sailfish's UI toolkit then it won't be trivial but I think it's doable
 Teleports (the UT Telegram client) is actually very good. What features are you missing?
 @Javacookies [if they use Sailfish's UI toolkit then it won't be trivial but I think it's doab …], I think those apps are using Sailfish UI toolkit, because follows the system theme. but we have Sailbook, for example, that app are a port from the original develop for Sailfish. Only problem is I don't use Facebook 😅
 @klaartje_b [Teleports (the UT Telegram client) is actually very good. What features are you …], In my case, Teleports crashes (Blank screen) everytime i open a conversation, maybe reinstalling will solve the problem, i miss animated stickers and the possibility to create and respond polls and the search field, for chats and in chat. Maybe
[07:43] <ubptgbot> I'm a Telegram heavy user. for now I'm using telegram Web, created by Webber, but it limited too, also, don't have a predictive text input. I tried to use Telegram React, but it freezer in Morph browser, Of course, Telegram React is intended for desktop, not mobile. And yes, Teleports is a great Telegram client.
 @klaartje_b [Teleports (the UT Telegram client) is actually very good. What features are you …], [Edit] In my case, Teleports crashes (Blank screen) everytime i open a conversation, maybe reinstalling will solve the problem, i miss animated stickers and the possibility to create and respond polls and the search field, for chats and in chat.
[07:44] <ubptgbot>  Maybe I'm a Telegram heavy user. for now I'm using telegram Web, created by Webber, but it limited too, also, don't have a predictive text input. I tried to use Telegram React, but it freezes in Morph browser, Of course, Telegram React is intended for desktop, not mobile. And yes, Teleports is a great Telegram client.
 @LGeek [In my case, Teleports crashes (Blank screen) everytime i open a conversation, ma …], Animated stickers is being worked on but its supertricky ;)
 You do indeed sound like a heavy user. For my usage, in tandem with the desktop client, Teleports is totally fine.
 (Video, 7s) https://irc.ubports.com/MsA4OGP0.mp4 This one is really hacked but... it's cool 😎
 @Flohack [Animated stickers is being worked on but its supertricky ;)], That's good news, thank you!
 nice move 😆
 @klaartje_b [You do indeed sound like a heavy user. For my usage, in tandem with the desktop …], Yep, most of the time I use Telegram in the desktop. But every once in a while i need to go outside 😂 (almost everyday to see my clients) and, for now I'm using UT for daily driver. Speaking of... I'm using Pure Maps in Offline mode with OSM Sc
[07:52] <ubptgbot> out Server and I'ts working really well to trace and navigate my routes in bicycle.
 @klaartje_b [You do indeed sound like a heavy user. For my usage, in tandem with the desktop …], [Edit] Yep, most of the time I use Telegram in the desktop. But every once in a while i need to go outside 😂 (almost everyday to see my clients) and, for now I'm using UT for daily driver. Speaking of... I'm using Pure Maps in Offline mode with
[07:53] <ubptgbot>  OSM Scout Server and It's working really well to trace and navigate my routes in bicycle.
 @Javacookies [ah it's fine, I though I was replying to @mateosalta  😅 … I believe he knows many …], what was disabled?
 @TartanSpartan [What does it mean to have these APNs highlighted? Just so that "Reset all APN se …], highlighted is activated for usage
 reset all, will reset them all checked or not
 maybe those should be switches? as the understanding would be better as off/on for each
 @mateosalta [what was disabled?], predictive text on QtWebEngine … I want to try if it works better now … I've retested a previous bug that affects properties of OSK no working correctly but it's mostly fixed now (not fully though)
 @Javacookies [do you know where and how it was disabled on QtWebEngine? … I wonder if it'll work …], It was a bug due to the web engine upgrade, there was a pr for it iirc
 I tried looking for it I wasn't able to 😅 … I thought the upgrade actually fixed the issues on the input method properties 😄
 @Javacookies [I tried looking for it I wasn't able to 😅 … I thought the upgrade actually fixed …], Lemme see if I can find it
 @Javacookies [I tried looking for it I wasn't able to 😅 … I thought the upgrade actually fixed …], Found it: https://github.com/ubports/morph-browser/issues/406#issuecomment-795275773
 oh nice find, it's in the core of qtwebengine 😄
 and it looks like it's coming back now
 yeah it just needs a bit of polish and testing iirc
 I started using predictive text some time ago so I'm looking forward to this 😄
 it still needs some improvement tho hehe
 have you tried it?
 oh you mean predictive text in general?
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 @Javacookies [oh you mean predictive text in general?], yeah haha
 i mean in general
 that is true … it definitely needs a lot of love and work
 come to think of it i still need to look into that finishing that autospace pr i started 🤔
 Hey guys. DO we have here Ubuntu Desktop users who are also using Qt Creator?
 me yes
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 Can I run Ubuntu Touch on Mi A2 China version (Mi 6X (wayne))? … There are different device codes between them, but they can be switched to each other through some methods
 It's worth trying
 I can't see why not
 @zhenchao [Can I run Ubuntu Touch on Mi A2 China version (Mi 6X (wayne))? … There are differe …], Yes and no
 You will need to do manual steps to get it to work, 6x is not officially supported
 @klaartje_b [Some of us have already bought the device... maybe jumping the gun a little here …], Where could i get some more infos. Didn’t find it in the forum.
 What kind of infos are you looking for?
 Maybe this? https://gitlab.com/ubports/community-ports/android9/lenovo-tab-m10-fhd-plus
 @klaartje_b [What kind of infos are you looking for?], You said that there I somebody trying to get utouch on the m10 Lenovo. And I tried to find out how far they are.
 I would like to know that, too.
 Patience people you can't rush art(porting) it takes time
 I'm not being impatient. More like, curious.
 I know but things don't move so quickly :)
 I'm pretty sure we'll hear more once it's ready … I think it wasn't long ago when it was started...based on that gitlab repo, around 1 month ago 😄
 Honestly I have no idea whether it takes three hours or three years. I'm guessing it's something in between.
 at least 3 months :p
 speaking of, the good deal I found for m10 few days ago is now sold 😔
 @Fuseteam [at least 3 months :p], Thank you! 😌
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/IhnIjWTG.png
 Look what showed up in the mail yesterday - really nice quality too
 fresh drip
 Pic via Volla Phone selfie camera - no filter - fairly low interior light
 cool!
 Just forgive the ugly mug of the "model" - lol
 wish it's cheap and easy to ship one here … and it has actual use here given that we're around 33+C nowadays while approaching summer 😆
 @TotalSonic [Just forgive the ugly mug of the "model" - lol], Nah! You look like someone I'd like to have a beer with!
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/F465gLZL.webp
 @Javacookies [wish it's cheap and easy to ship one here … and it has actual use here given that …], Yeah, that's the temps it is here in a couple months, but definitely not now.
 @Javacookies [wish it's cheap and easy to ship one here … and it has actual use here given that …], [Edit] Yeah, that's the temps it is here in about 3 months, but definitely not now.
 @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], Awesome! One of these days I'll need to start representing, too.
 @klaartje_b [Nah! You look like someone I'd like to have a beer with!], +1
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 hello everyone, today i installed ubuntu touch on my santoni. how do i install an anbox? Why is my device not displayed in adb devices and is not seen by the computer as a storage?
 @TheBakerCat [hello everyone, today i installed ubuntu touch on my santoni. how do i install a …], did you install using ubports-installer? or it some GSI or something?
 @dohbee [did you install using ubports-installer? or it some GSI or something?], Yes, ubports-installer
 [Edit] hello everyone, today i installed ubuntu touch on my santoni. how do i install an anbox? Why is my device not displayed in adb devices(developer mode is turned on) and is not seen by the computer as a storage?
 hmm, mtp should be working then. for adb you need to enable developer mode in system settings
 @dohbee [hmm, mtp should be working then. for adb you need to enable developer mode in sy …], developer mode is enabled, after turning it on, I even did reboots, which did not give any result
 In recovery, my device is in adb devices
 ubports recovery? or twrp?
 ubports recovery
 [Edit] In ubports recovery, my device is in adb devices
 @Javacookies [speaking of, the good deal I found for m10 few days ago is now sold 😔], Couldn't beat my deal...
 dunno then; does your device appear as a modem when you connect it to your PC?
 @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], Nice! I need to order one myself
 @dohbee [dunno then; does your device appear as a modem when you connect it to your PC?], no, nothing happens at all
 (Photo, 514x800) https://irc.ubports.com/vyKbZD0A.png 👉 https://cutt.ly/gxewLi3
 I tried to poke the adb section in ut tweak tool but it did not help
 [Edit] I tried to change some settings in the adb section in ut tweak tool but it did not help
 FINALLY https://youtu.be/fCKMxzz9cjs?t=711
 Pinephone is not phone lol
 it's like a platform for mobile developers and linux enthusiasts
 and also a phone
 neat, my MR for click to build on focal actually built in CI now
 @Fuseteam [FINALLY https://youtu.be/fCKMxzz9cjs?t=711], anthony is based
 Impressively, the ARM64 version of Visual Studio Code runs in Libertine, whereas the ARMHF one does not. This will be handy if I should suffer power cuts during my remote learning. But you'd need a mouse for it.
 Oh yeah I don't think I mentioned, my Volla finally arrived yesterday! After placing the order on December 4th. Longest wait ever I think, but well worth it.
 Rocking LTE even in an obscure part of BC, Canada.
 @TartanSpartan [Impressively, the ARM64 version of Visual Studio Code runs in Libertine, whereas …], on what device?
 if that's on Volla Phone, it is because it has arm64 rootfs and likely arm64 Libertine container
 right
 and the container isn't set up for multi-arch by default
 Yes it's on the Volla.
 yep so you will need arm64 builds of things to run there
 or you can modify your container to support multi-arch and use armhf if needed
 Indeed and I specifically targeted the ARM64 build, so it's all good.
 It'll work better on this nice chunky device than my MX4, anyway.
 https://askubuntu.com/questions/591803/how-to-check-bluetooth-version-on-my-laptop/1284936#1284936
 this probably won't work there, but it has at least Bluetooth 4
 I checked the Bluetooth version of the Volla according to this and it seems to be 4.2. This is a little bit disappointing given specs online quote it as 5.0. But, a minor disappointment all the same. Not a deal breaker by any means.
 gigaset does say 5.0
 hard to say what hw can do, but our BlueZ is older than https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=BlueZ-5.47-Released
 Requesting information ... …   BD Address:  `redacted` …   OUI Company: Gigaset Communications GmbH (58-9E-C6) …   Device Name: ubuntu-phablet …   LMP Version: 4.2 (0x8) LMP Subversion: 0x215
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 Nice nickname
 @TartanSpartan [Requesting information ... …   BD Address:  redacted …   OUI Company: Gigaset Commun …], what device did you run that on?
 Laptop via pairing, because as mentioned a few weeks ago, you can't do it directly on a Mediatek device.
 @TartanSpartan [Laptop via pairing, because as mentioned a few weeks ago, you can't do it direct …], does your laptop support bluetooth 5?
 I mean I grabbed the Volla's info using my laptop.
 @TartanSpartan [I mean I grabbed the Volla's info using my laptop.], yes, but if your laptop only supports 4.2 the controller probably negotiates that and that's what is reported
 Hmmm I'll check on that.
 I didn't know that was a limitation.
 Laptop: … LMP Version: 5.1 (0xa)  Subversion: 0x100 … Manufacturer: Intel Corp. (2)
 hmm
 but yeah, the bluez version we have also doesn't support 5.0 i think
 So the truth may yet be revealed when that gets updated?
 yes or if it's tried with android on the phone instead
 I could ask someone on the Volla Fan group if they could try that.
 @Fuseteam [FINALLY https://youtu.be/fCKMxzz9cjs?t=711], I understand he had to give it a bit of a rough review because y'know lots of things don't work as well as an Android phone, but it sounds like he at least gets the point
 As far as I'm concerned, that was not a rough review
 well you know, 'this doesn't work, that doesn't work, video playback  isn't great' etc. the normal LTT audience would've been like 'wtf is this rubbish' had he not explained the point of the phone hehe
 Expectation setting, yeah.
 By all accounts of a normal Android/iOS user, it does suck. But that's not the point, and so the review showed it off pretty well.
 It's just really unfortunate that Mobian failed to install.
 yeah exactly... its not like he just whipped it out the box and said 'this is a new phone, lets see what happens' 😆 so its all good
 @Fuseteam [FINALLY https://youtu.be/fCKMxzz9cjs?t=711], I thought this was actually a very good and balanced review, as was his review of the Librem 5.  UT of course comes out as the most usable of all the alternative mobile OS's :)
 It would be nice to see Anthony / Short Circuits sent a Volla pre-loaded with UT so he could see what the OS is really capable of on decent hardware.
 [Edit] It would be nice to see Anthony / Short Circuit sent a Volla pre-loaded with UT so he could see what the OS is really capable of on decent hardware.