| Intelo | i added sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neovim-ppa/stable how do I remoe it? | 00:09 |
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| sarnold | -r, --remove Remove the specified repository | 00:10 |
| Intelo | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neovim-ppa/stable -r | 00:12 |
| Intelo | sarnold: ? | 00:12 |
| Bashing-om | !ppa-purge | Intelo As neovim is in the repo | 00:12 |
| ubottu | Intelo As neovim is in the repo: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html | 00:12 |
| sarnold | Intelo: most programs that take switches to modify their behaviour want those switches before the 'data' arguments | 00:14 |
| Intelo | thanks | 00:16 |
| maxFlexGuest | I am having trouble finding the appropriate system location to create a custom keyboard layout on Ubuntu (not to modify an existing keyboard layout). | 00:28 |
| sarnold | maxFlexGuest: setxkbmap(1) has a -config option that looks like it might let you store it anywhere | 00:32 |
| Intelo | Which folders of a user , if an app is put/installed, automatically are included in $PATH? | 00:34 |
| quadrathoch2 | Intelo depends as there are multiple directories (or if it's installed globally or only for the user) | 00:38 |
| sarnold | Intelo: /etc/skel/.profile provides a default ~/.profile that will add ~/bin and ~/.local/bin to the PATH of whatever shell is using that file | 00:40 |
| Intelo | hm ok | 00:43 |
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| gnUser | Guys I would like to be able to scroll through my ubuntu desktops by doing Ctrl + alt + scroll wheel. You think this is possible? | 02:11 |
| sarnold | gnUser: probably; what desktop environment or window manager are you running? | 02:17 |
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| gnUser | sarnold: Gnome Desktop | 02:23 |
| sarnold | gnUser: here's a gnome extension that's several years old, it might work https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1438/scroll-workspace/ | 02:27 |
| sarnold | here's another that looks newer https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1616/panel-scroll/ | 02:27 |
| rodrigoty23 | does anybody here use sm player? | 02:54 |
| Bashing-om | rodrigoty23: If someone here did, what would be your real question ? | 03:02 |
| rodrigoty23 | does it buffer for you bash? | 03:02 |
| rodrigoty23 | while your mid way in the movie? | 03:03 |
| Bashing-om | rodrigoty23: Can not say as I do not use the app. Await and see what others respond with :D | 03:04 |
| rodrigoty23 | yup sucks you dont watch movies then | 03:05 |
| Bashing-om | rodrigoty23: Well -= rather do support as to watch movies, But late at night on the couch movies are intertaining :D | 03:07 |
| rodrigoty23 | yup | 03:07 |
| rodrigoty23 | so what you use vlc? | 03:09 |
| Bashing-om | rodrigoty23: KISS - I have no audio on this work station :D | 03:11 |
| rodrigoty23 | that has to suck | 03:12 |
| gnUser | sarnold: sorry bro, I had to go deal with an emergency but thanks for sending those extensions | 04:12 |
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| aum | with ubuntu 20 root-on-zfs, how do I safely move the entire disk from a dying 256GB SSD to a pair of new 1TB SSDs? | 05:59 |
| usibrfucwadyxj | DEBIAN IS THE BEST | 05:59 |
| aum | I'm currently attempting to dd the whole 256GB disk to one of the new 1TB ones, and hoping to boot off that and expand the partition | 06:00 |
| rfm | aum, if it's zfs you should add the new disks to the zpool mirrot, wait to resilver, remove the dyig one | 06:16 |
| -usibrfucwadyxj:#ubuntu- IMPORTANT REMINDER: Ubuntu is going end-of-life April 1. To ensure continued security patches and ransomware protection, please make sure you upgrade to Debian by April 1, 2021. Thank you. | 06:18 | |
| rfm | aum, once you get the zpool mirror on the big disks, you can figure out how to expand the volumes | 06:19 |
| rfm | And for pete's sake can we wait for April to do April Fools? | 06:21 |
| EriC^ | xD | 06:22 |
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| imrjd | hi folks | 06:42 |
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| dstry | hello imrjd | 06:53 |
| dstry | how's it going | 06:54 |
| imrjd | cool | 07:11 |
| dstry | nice | 07:14 |
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| jarnos | Do latest Ubuntu releases come with some locate variant installed by default? | 08:11 |
| guiverc | jarnos, `find` is included (findutils package) | 08:21 |
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| IchiseX | hola | 09:47 |
| IchiseX | does anybody here know, which component makes the LUKS decryption on Ubuntu Desktop look so nice? I mean the UI component? | 09:47 |
| fenns | hi I'm upgrading my LTS to 20.04. It's hanging on the command "Installing the chromium snap" | 09:51 |
| fenns | been like this for several minutes | 09:51 |
| fenns | any ideas? | 09:52 |
| fenns | oh it's continuing now - thanks anyway :-) | 09:53 |
| IchiseX | fenns: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/m5j9ns/i_was_upgrading_to_ubuntu_2004_when_i_got_stuck/ | 09:55 |
| IchiseX | maybe there's some helpful info there,didnt really check | 09:55 |
| fenns | thanks | 09:56 |
| IchiseX | does anybody here know, which component makes the LUKS decryption on Ubuntu Desktop look so nice? I mean the UI component? | 09:59 |
| diofantoz | hi, can i not resize partitions while the partitions are mounted? (and i'm in the OS) | 10:07 |
| diofantoz | all guides refer to booting a live cd | 10:08 |
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| abff | diofantoz: no not generally, you need to be able to access the devices themselves and if the system you're using depends on those devices being mounted- then you can't be messing with them | 10:19 |
| diofantoz | abff: yea, ok | 10:20 |
| diofantoz | this is the system partition so | 10:20 |
| diofantoz | ty | 10:21 |
| abff | yeah get yourself a live usb to boot into while working on that | 10:21 |
| abff | I wish you success | 10:21 |
| silv3r_m00n | is it necessary to create the swap partition right next to root partition ? or can it be a few partitions away ? | 10:53 |
| IchiseX | silv3r_m00n: Are you setting it up for a desktop/notebook? | 11:03 |
| FooDog | silv3r_m00n: as i understand it, you can choose any order of partitions without hesitation in case you using SSD. If you use HDD, than the first ones partitions will be a little faster than the last ones. And of course, there's no critical need for creating a swap partition, if you setting up operating system for home use | 11:12 |
| Maik | silv3r_m00n: these days you don't need to create a swap partition anymore, Ubuntu creates a swap file by default | 11:12 |
| silv3r_m00n | Maik: ubuntu has a swap file already ? | 11:12 |
| silv3r_m00n | means if it runs out of space on ram it will use the file ? | 11:12 |
| silv3r_m00n | without thrashing the system ? | 11:12 |
| Maik | since 18.04 | 11:13 |
| IchiseX | silv3r_m00n: this might answer some more questions: https://www.maketecheasier.com/need-swap-in-ubuntu/ | 11:13 |
| silv3r_m00n | Maik: what is this feature called by the way ? | 11:13 |
| silv3r_m00n | actually this is a laptop that i dont plan to shutdown, it may stay in hibernation or suspend | 11:13 |
| silv3r_m00n | swap is not needed for that as well ? | 11:13 |
| IchiseX | silv3r_m00n: read the article :) there it talks about hibernation. as far as i understood, you need it for that purpose | 11:14 |
| aquanaut | hi how to solve this error?/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasdf | 11:17 |
| EriC^ | aquanaut: are you trying to compile something? | 11:19 |
| silv3r_m00n | this is a brand new laptop with windows 10 pre-installed, i created extra space on the existing ssd for ubuntu installation, i have created 1 partition to be mounted as root, do i need to create something for the boot loader ? or how does it work ? | 11:23 |
| EriC^ | silv3r_m00n: it depends if you're going to be using uefi or legacy | 11:26 |
| silv3r_m00n | there is an EFI partition of size 105 MB | 11:26 |
| silv3r_m00n | it belongs to windows 10 i guess | 11:26 |
| silv3r_m00n | now what do i do next | 11:26 |
| silv3r_m00n | i was told that ubuntu beside windows10 is tricky | 11:26 |
| EriC^ | silv3r_m00n: ok, i'd create a separate efi partition for ubuntu | 11:26 |
| silv3r_m00n | i create a root partition in the free space area, i should add a new partition of type EFI ? | 11:27 |
| silv3r_m00n | and install bootloader in there ? | 11:27 |
| EriC^ | yeah, you want to create a ~300mb partition and set the type to efi and also at the bottom of the screen where it says 'install bootloader to device' you should put /dev/sdX where sdX is the ubuntu hdd (and not sdX1 or 2) | 11:28 |
| silv3r_m00n | in that case, what happens to the windows 10 ? will be able to boot ? | 11:29 |
| silv3r_m00n | i guess the existing EFI partition is from where windows 10 boots | 11:29 |
| silv3r_m00n | there is only 1 ssd drive, and there is already an EFI partition, if i add 1 more there will be 2 EFI partitions | 11:29 |
| EriC^ | silv3r_m00n: yeah, ubuntu will try to set itself first in the uefi boot order, and grub should have windows | 11:29 |
| silv3r_m00n | but if i put /dev/sdX and not /dev/sdX1 or /dev/sdX2 how will ubuntu know which EFI drive to choose ? | 11:30 |
| EriC^ | if your board has odd implementations, as many do, then you'll get windows once you reboot, and then you'll need to see what can be done | 11:30 |
| EriC^ | silv3r_m00n: cause you set the 300mb to efi type | 11:30 |
| silv3r_m00n | the the existing 105mb efi partition ? what happens to that | 11:31 |
| EriC^ | it's not touched | 11:31 |
| IchiseX | silv3r_m00n: This might help https://www.itzgeek.com/post/how-to-install-ubuntu-20-04-alongside-with-windows-10-in-dual-boot/ | 11:31 |
| silv3r_m00n | its like 105mb efi + 200gb windows 10 + 80gb ext4 / + rest blank | 11:31 |
| EriC^ | i thought ubuntu is on a separate hdd, it's the same one? | 11:32 |
| silv3r_m00n | EriC^: if its not touched, then how will ubuntu know to use the second EFI and not the first | 11:32 |
| silv3r_m00n | yes same | 11:32 |
| silv3r_m00n | single SSD | 11:32 |
| silv3r_m00n | single 512gb ssd and windows 10 pre installed | 11:32 |
| silv3r_m00n | now i create free space to install ubuntu | 11:32 |
| EriC^ | ah ok, nevermind the efi for ubuntu then, just create root fs and it will use the windows efi | 11:32 |
| silv3r_m00n | the windows efi is 105mb, is that sufficient ? | 11:32 |
| silv3r_m00n | i read somewhere it should be about 500mb atleast | 11:32 |
| EriC^ | it should be yeah, the ubuntu files are only 5mb here | 11:33 |
| silv3r_m00n | OH GREAT | 11:33 |
| silv3r_m00n | means i had to do nothing but click next | 11:33 |
| silv3r_m00n | let me do that | 11:33 |
| silv3r_m00n | will be back in a while after installation finishes | 11:33 |
| krmt | hi! Is there a way of using git from nautilus? | 11:34 |
| krmt | (with a GUI) | 11:36 |
| IchiseX | krmt: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/simple-nautilus-git-integration | 11:38 |
| IchiseX | and some more https://askubuntu.com/questions/4788/nautilus-git-integration | 11:38 |
| krmt | IchiseX: I had seen those, but they look ansolutely ancient. The second is not available for > 17.04 | 11:41 |
| IchiseX | oopsie, sorry then. | 11:43 |
| IchiseX | why not use the terminal? | 11:43 |
| IchiseX | i know, that's not the question. | 11:43 |
| krmt | IchiseX: just because .... I am trying to see whether I can run everything from GUI, experiencing ubuntu as would my wife .... I have to say, overall not very happy. | 11:44 |
| IchiseX | how about a gui version of git? | 11:45 |
| krmt | IchiseX: such as git-cola? | 11:46 |
| krmt | IchiseX: that is actually quite good, but not well integrated into nautilus. | 11:47 |
| krmt | IchiseX: git-gui does not integrate at all. | 11:47 |
| krmt | IchiseX: the nicest I have seen so far is to fire up eclipse and import. | 11:47 |
| krmt | IchiseX: very elegant and fairly simple. Yet, you have to install eclipse which is not that easy. | 11:48 |
| krmt | IchiseX: which other alternative would you suggest? | 11:51 |
| krmt | another question .... does libjack-jackd2-0 do anything useful? | 11:58 |
| tomreyn | it provides shared libraries for the JACK Audio Connection Kit | 12:01 |
| tomreyn | so other software that's compiled against jack would probably need them | 12:02 |
| krmt | tomreyn: I understand .... I thought ubuntu was not using jack though? | 12:03 |
| tomreyn | krmt: it doesn't, not the main flavor, other flavors do, specifically UbuntuStudio | 12:05 |
| krmt | tomreyn: this is what I thought .... I would like to rmeove it to be able to sue mycroft. | 12:07 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:24 |
| drupol | hello all | 12:24 |
| drupol | I'm unable to run apt-get update since a couple of days | 12:24 |
| drupol | I'm looking for help | 12:24 |
| drupol | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nSMJcv2M/ | 12:25 |
| summonner | change repos and see if that helps? | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | looks like you have a ppa that's no longer valid mucking up the works | 12:47 |
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| silv3r_m00n1 | hi there | 14:09 |
| silv3r_m00n1 | i encrypted my home directory following instructions here, https://blog.sensecodons.com/2019/10/encrypt-your-home-directory-using-luks.html | 14:09 |
| silv3r_m00n1 | its working fine, is there anything else i need to do as best practises ? | 14:09 |
| cbreak | make sure you have backups | 14:12 |
| silv3r_m00n1 | backups of data in home ? | 14:12 |
| silv3r_m00n1 | doing that too | 14:13 |
| mfraz74 | Is there an issue with the ddebs repository key? | 14:20 |
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| === bildramer1 is now known as bildramer | ||
| radue | guys, i'm trying to set up an mpd server inside lxc (proxmox) and it seems i cannot set pulseaudio to work (no soundcard and x not running), any ideas if it's possible to have a headless mpd server? maybe all i need is get a soundcard and passthrough it to the container? Or is there any other way..? | 14:41 |
| knstn | Does Ubuntu Live ISO contain a memtest option for UEFI systems? | 14:49 |
| etronik | Hi all, how do I make Document Viewer the default app to open PDF files instead of LibreOffice ? TIA | 14:50 |
| debouncer | Is there any difference between installing docker from PPA and installing it with snap? | 14:51 |
| ducasse | knstn: afaik memtest is not available for uefi systems yet, at least not for free | 15:16 |
| Ravage | https://www.memtest86.com/tech_booting-v5.html | 15:18 |
| Ravage | https://www.memtest86.com/compare.html | 15:19 |
| Kobaz | # | 15:58 |
| Kobaz | having an issue with a Pantech UML295 USB 4g. https://dpaste.com/7Y847HEBK | 15:59 |
| Kobaz | Initially the usb driver recognizes it as a cdrom, it switches modes to ether, and then i briefly get an ip address on enxd05785744e1f and then i get a usb device reset... the device itself works fine, it works on windows/mac without issue | 16:00 |
| Ravage | https://allmybrain.com/2020/04/20/pantech-verizon-uml295-usb-cellular-access-on-linux/ looks worth a try | 16:14 |
| Kobaz | Yeah, I found that too | 16:16 |
| nedR | etronik, right click a pdf>properties>Open with | 16:16 |
| Kobaz | Looks like ubuntu is already handling the mode switch. because it does get into cdc_ether mode | 16:16 |
| Kobaz | Ravage: my issue is that after the mode switch from usb storage to qmi, usb connectivity only lasts about 5 seconds | 16:17 |
| Kobaz | usb 3-3: USB disconnect, device number 22 cdc_acm 3-3:1.6: failed to set dtr/rts | 16:18 |
| Kobaz | Ravage: I have connectivity briefly, and then it just suddenly disconnects and reconnects (it does not do this on windows/mac) | 16:19 |
| nedR | debouncer, i dunno about docker specifically... generally snaps are more of a PITA. Andthe idea of running a docker inside a snap...**shivers | 16:25 |
| etronik | nedR, thanks for your tip, but that's what I do for each which is a pain, I want to make the choice permanent so that on souble-click always assumes sames app | 16:28 |
| etronik | nedR, but your tip help me find a way - thanks! under properties there's a button for file-type that will change setting in a general way | 16:31 |
| nedR | etronik, nice.. i guess it changed.. for me on 18.04 it is in File Properties>Open with | 16:32 |
| diofantoz | tried to resize a LUKS encrypted disk in ubuntu ... no go with gparted so i found that partitionmanager might work | 16:32 |
| diofantoz | but no go, it at least lists the disks but no way of resizing | 16:32 |
| Kobaz | I might wind up bite the bullet and get a TP-LINK TL-MR3020. Which apparently does work with a Pantech UML295 | 16:33 |
| tomreyn | diofantoz: resizing the crypto container is possible, but not simple. once you've backed up, try your luck with the cryptsetup utility in a terminal. | 16:50 |
| tomreyn | be aware that it wont resize any layers it contains, so you'll need to do those seperately, before (when shrinking) or after (when growing) the crypto layer | 16:51 |
| tomreyn | Kobaz: if you're running into a usb device reset then a different router wont fix that | 16:53 |
| tomreyn | Kobaz:oh, ignore that, i misunderstood what you're doing. | 16:54 |
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| Kobaz | tomreyn: yeah it's a dongle to host the usb 4g modem and spin that off into ethernet | 17:22 |
| diofantoz | tomreyn: alright, i read something about that | 17:44 |
| diofantoz | but also that partitionmanager would do | 17:44 |
| tomreyn | i'm not sure what "partitionmanager" is | 17:45 |
| diofantoz | it's a gui partition app | 17:45 |
| diofantoz | ... might as well format the disk and setup again | 17:45 |
| diofantoz | might be easier | 17:45 |
| tomreyn | possibly | 17:46 |
| diofantoz | we'll see, thanks for the input | 17:46 |
| tomreyn | backup, boot from a a compatible live iso, try your luck with this partitioning gui, check whether it seems to have worked. if it didn't, use the live/installer iso to reinstall, then restore backups. | 17:47 |
| Kobaz | /join #gnome | 18:14 |
| kgh | I'm having some trouble with DHCP on a freshly installed 20.10, anyone have any experience with this? | 18:15 |
| oerheks | kgh, we need more details | 18:16 |
| oerheks | !paste | 18:16 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 18:16 |
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| kgh | the machine is an hp envy, ip link shows the interface is UP, tcpdump shows bootp/dhcp requests outbound, router link lights and linux both say 1GBps connection | 18:17 |
| kgh | I can't easily cut/paste from the machine since it's not reachable | 18:17 |
| kgh | I've tried manually assigning an addr, didn't help | 18:19 |
| kgh | I've tried xover cable to my laptop, didn't work | 18:19 |
| meandrain | kgh: you can't ping the router ? | 18:19 |
| kgh | I've installed 20.10 in bridge mode on a VM on my laptop, and that works | 18:19 |
| kgh | no, can't ping the router | 18:19 |
| kgh | tpcdump doesn't show any traffic from the router either | 18:20 |
| meandrain | what is your laptop ip and subnet ? | 18:20 |
| kgh | it's like the MAC isn't working, although as I said the lights and ip link seem happy | 18:20 |
| oerheks | oh a vm | 18:20 |
| meandrain | you can't cut and paste but you can take pictures and uplod to imgur | 18:20 |
| kgh | the laptop is connected to the same router | 18:20 |
| oerheks | must be a host network issue then | 18:21 |
| oerheks | btw with a vm, sure your hoste can paste. | 18:21 |
| kgh | no, the vm is the working | 18:21 |
| kgh | the machine is not working | 18:22 |
| kgh | just tell me what you need to see, I can type it out or something - I'm at a loss for where to look | 18:22 |
| meandrain | kgh: do the following: type ifconfig (take picture), do a ping from machine to the router, then do "arp -na" | 18:23 |
| meandrain | if you can see the router MAC, you have network connectivity with the router | 18:23 |
| meandrain | if you can't see router's mac, is a network issue like bad cable | 18:24 |
| oerheks | the host is not working? weird | 18:24 |
| kgh | it's not a bad cable, I can use this cable on other machines | 18:24 |
| kgh | I've already said tcpdump shows no traffic from the router | 18:24 |
| meandrain | so you don't see router's MAC ? | 18:25 |
| kgh | ifconfig and arp aren't installed but ip link shows link up | 18:25 |
| kgh | ip neigh is empty | 18:25 |
| kgh | I just converted this machine from windows, I am sure all hardware works | 18:27 |
| oerheks | i think you whould fix networking on the host. | 18:28 |
| oerheks | are you running mint, btw? | 18:29 |
| kgh | no, Ubuntu 20.10 | 18:29 |
| kgh | I'm not familiar with some of the new eth naming stuff, but this interface shows as eno1 - there are no traffic statts | 18:30 |
| kgh | ip link show: 2: eno1: <BROADCAST, MULTICAST, UP, LOWER_UP>> mtu ... etc | 18:30 |
| kgh | all looks normal | 18:30 |
| kgh | the /proc/net/dev stats for eno1 are all 0 | 18:31 |
| SlimTim | hello, can ubuntu run on chromebooks? | 18:32 |
| oerheks | SlimTim, see our wiki, i would stick to chome os https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-on-chromebook#1-overview | 18:36 |
| kgh | so this isn't ringing bells for anyone? how can ip link have L2 up but then nothing TX/RX on the interface? | 18:36 |
| meandrain | kgh: might be a routing problem | 18:37 |
| meandrain | happend to me once but I don't remember exactly what was the issue | 18:37 |
| kgh | it's not routing, I can see the kernel sending DCHP requests on tcpdump, those aren't ticking any TX stats on the interface | 18:37 |
| SlimTim | Thank you oerheks | 18:37 |
| kgh | sorry - dhclient of course, not the kernel | 18:37 |
| meandrain | try to make it to work with manual IP | 18:38 |
| kgh | I already did - doesn't help | 18:38 |
| kgh | maybe the NIC driver isn't installed? | 18:39 |
| kgh | or it's the wrong one? | 18:39 |
| meandrain | kgh: https://dpaste.org/rRJU | 18:40 |
| meandrain | don't forget to edit network driver name | 18:41 |
| kgh | does the filename matter? I don't know much about netplan - my file is 01-network-manager-all.yaml | 18:41 |
| kgh | so create new file or edit that one? | 18:41 |
| kgh | also my renderer is NetworkManager, does that manager? | 18:42 |
| tomreyn | if this is a desktop / graphical system, you probably want to keep using network-manager, not move to systemd-networkd, as meandrain's file would | 18:42 |
| meandrain | networkmanager sucks | 18:42 |
| tomreyn | well, it works well enough for most | 18:43 |
| meandrain | tomreyn: it's faster using command line to configure network | 18:43 |
| tomreyn | meandrain: that's your opinion, not everyone may agree. | 18:43 |
| tomreyn | kgh: just to confirm, this is a VM running ubuntu 20.10 on some hp envy model where the host system is unknown, using an unknown type of routing, and unknown physical network interface? | 18:44 |
| tomreyn | or is this ubuntu 20.10 running bare emtal on this system? | 18:44 |
| kgh | baremetal | 18:45 |
| tomreyn | if "ip neigh" shows nothing then i guess it's either a driver, a firmware or a hardware issue. | 18:46 |
| kgh | shouldn't the 'netplan apply' cause the addr to appear in ip addr? | 18:46 |
| tomreyn | which network interface is it, vendor and device id, or rather lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:46 |
| kgh | Realtek Semi RTL8111/8168/8411 | 18:47 |
| tomreyn | netplan apply should apply the configuration that is configured, if it can be applied | 18:47 |
| kgh | driver r8169 | 18:47 |
| tomreyn | those aren't vendor + device ids | 18:47 |
| kgh | you mean the [10ec:8168] and [103c:2b36] | 18:48 |
| tomreyn | right | 18:48 |
| tomreyn | also, what's the output of cat /proc/{cmdline,version} | 18:48 |
| kgh | can't cut/paste -cmdline is BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.8.0-43-generic root=UUID=<uuid> ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7 | 18:50 |
| kgh | running 5.8.0-43-generic from 20.10 - #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu from feb 5 2021 | 18:50 |
| tomreyn | oh, it's offline entirely? no wireless lan? | 18:50 |
| kgh | it doesn't have wireless it's an older machine | 18:51 |
| tomreyn | do you have a smartphone you can connect with a wire to usb and tether through? | 18:51 |
| kgh | perhaps | 18:53 |
| tomreyn | see if you have those oopses in dmesg / journalctl -b https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204343 | 18:54 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 204343 in Wireless "r8169: r8169 oops since kernel 5.3-rc1" [High,New] | 18:54 |
| tomreyn | (grep for 'BUG:') | 18:55 |
| kgh | there's no oops, there's an early message from NETDEV abotu transmit queue 0 timing out, and then a bunch of messages saying rtl_rxtx_empty_cond == 0 | 18:56 |
| tomreyn | does it say " ------------[ cut here ]------------" above that message? | 18:58 |
| kgh | no | 18:58 |
| tomreyn | is this an onboard NIC? | 18:58 |
| kgh | yes, it's the MB NIC | 18:58 |
| tomreyn | is the bios current? | 18:59 |
| kgh | wait | 18:59 |
| kgh | yes, it says cut here | 18:59 |
| kgh | I had a grep when I saw it first | 18:59 |
| kgh | so it's an oops | 18:59 |
| tomreyn | right | 18:59 |
| tomreyn | "Hardware name:" (below that) says? | 19:00 |
| tomreyn | or run journalctl -b | grep DMI: | 19:00 |
| kgh | HP 750-160qe/2B36, BIOS A0.08 08/25/2015, so no, the BIOS is not up to date | 19:01 |
| tomreyn | give that a try then | 19:01 |
| kgh | yup, thanks for the help | 19:01 |
| tomreyn | kgh there's also https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209839#c21 | 19:05 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 209839 in Network "r8169 (RTL8125B): "rtl_rxtx_empty_cond == 0 (loop: 42, delay: 100)" and connectivity loss, caused by small fragmented datagrams" [Normal,Reopened] | 19:05 |
| tomreyn | i have not checked whether or not that's present in your kernel version | 19:06 |
| tomreyn | kgh: so it looks like a NIC firmware / driver bug. bios update *may* help, and the driver patch should. latest entry in the bug report suggests this was merged into linux 5.11 | 19:08 |
| tomreyn | !mainline | 19:08 |
| ubottu | The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds | 19:08 |
| tomreyn | https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.11.8/ is the latest stable build | 19:10 |
| oerheks | good spot, bios update | 19:12 |
| oerheks | i was reading about secureboot, no reason not to, sofar. | 19:12 |
| tomreyn | A0.13 Rev.A is the latest BIOS for this ROM family | 19:14 |
| tomreyn | https://support.hp.com/gb-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-envy-750-100-desktop-pc-series/8499646/model/8501666/swItemId/cp-177351-2 | 19:15 |
| tomreyn | this also includes an intel me security update | 19:17 |
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| DarHaram | Well got banned from #fedora within an hour after registered | 19:23 |
| jidar | looks like you should get banned from here too | 19:23 |
| DarHaram | They didn't like courting _shawn for "bosom recommend" | 19:23 |
| tomreyn | !ot | DarHaram | 19:24 |
| ubottu | DarHaram: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 19:24 |
| DarHaram | Jidar why? Is everything's big tex balloon of protocols and fairness? | 19:24 |
| DarHaram | America is spreading democracy did you see Atlas shrugged? | 19:25 |
| DarHaram | Other mesmerized by big Tex | 19:25 |
| DarHaram | Hold you down | 19:26 |
| DarHaram | Beequal with lowlifes | 19:26 |
| m_ | I'm having trouble with understanding how Livepatch works. As far as I know it is supposed to somehow upgrade the kernel without rebooting my system. OK, but why does it need me to set up a Ubuntu One account? (And read a lengthy legal note?) | 19:36 |
| m_ | In what way does setting up a Ubuntu One account help upgrading the kernel without rebooting my system? | 19:37 |
| tomreyn | m_: not. it'S a commercial service offering with a free usage tier. that's why. | 19:38 |
| tomreyn | developing and testing live patches takes a lot of effort which is why no one offers them for free. | 19:39 |
| tomreyn | except, there's a free for non-commercial (IIRC) use tier in canonicals' offering for ubuntu | 19:40 |
| m_ | so i have to sign up to obtain the right to use them as long as i declare that i use this non commercially? | 19:41 |
| tomreyn | generally, if you have questions about commercial Canonical services, it's best to contact them about it, since this channel is mostly community / volunteer run, | 19:41 |
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| tomreyn | !livepatch | 19:42 |
| ubottu | Canonical Livepatch is a service offered by Canonical for 64 bit 14.04 and higher installs that modifies the currently running kernel for updates without the need to restart. More information can be found at https://ubottu.com/y/livepatch and https://www.ubuntu.com/server/livepatch | 19:42 |
| m_ | thanks for the links, reading them now | 19:52 |
| debouncer | is it possible to upgrade 16.04 ubuntu installer to install 20.04? | 20:06 |
| debouncer | maybe by modifiying some configuration files? | 20:07 |
| tomreyn | debouncer: no, installations use a base system image which is included in the installer iso | 20:11 |
| tomreyn | you could try using the zsync approach, but i doubt it'll save you more than a few megabytes | 20:13 |
| tomreyn | debouncer: i.e. zsync -i /path/to/your-existing-ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso http://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/ubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync | 20:17 |
| tomreyn | but it's probably just a waste of time | 20:17 |
| mendi | i have 2 empty hard drives formatted with makentfs, one of them shows up in bios boot order, any idea how? it creeps me up as it should be 100% empty | 20:23 |
| mendi | both 100% functional | 20:24 |
| debouncer | yeah, nevermind | 20:24 |
| mendi | could the firmware somehow be bootkited? | 20:25 |
| mendi | because i did reinitialize the drive to dos and then to gpt with fdisk | 20:26 |
| jarred | whats the fastest way to create like 10,000 symlinks | 20:32 |
| jarred | in code, not from a CLI (unless spawning a child process is faster) | 20:33 |
| tomreyn | jarred: ask your favourite programming channel, i'd say. | 20:41 |
| oerheks | jarred, what have you found sofar? | 20:43 |
| oerheks | :-D | 20:43 |
| kgh | https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/link.2.html | 20:44 |
| kgh | int i; char path[1024]; for (i = 0; i < 10000; i++) { snprintf(path, sizeof path, "linkname-%d", i); link(OLDPATH, path); } | 20:45 |
| jarred | is there a way to use something like io_uring to batch the system calls into one (and is that faster)? | 20:46 |
| kgh | I am not an expert but I doubt it, you're not doing file IO you're asking the kernel to create inodes | 20:47 |
| oerheks | for i in {1..10000}; ln -s /dev/urandom /dev/random; done | 20:47 |
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| oerheks | no? | 20:48 |
| kgh | @oerheks that will spawn 10000 separate processes, will be much slower than syscall | 20:48 |
| jarred | kgh: okay i'll keep digging but will just use a for loop if i can't find a faster way | 20:52 |
| kgh | sorry - I should have pointed you to https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/symlink.2.html | 20:55 |
| kgh | link(2) is for hard links | 20:56 |
| kgh | I guess I should also comment that something like io_uring won't make it faster (even if you could use it for symlink(2) which it doesn't seem you can) | 20:59 |
| kgh | io_uring makes it async (non blocking) which is only useful if you want your program to do other work while the kernel is handling your IO request | 20:59 |
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| Newb101 | can anyone recommend an open source matrix client for ubuntu | 21:18 |
| Newb101 | ? | 21:18 |
| oerheks | maybe there is a snap? | 21:20 |
| oerheks | not all irc channels allow matrix as a bridge, so i have no clue if there is a legit client https://snapcraft.io/search?q=matrix | 21:22 |
| Newb101 | fair enough | 21:22 |
| Maik | Newb101: Element f.k.a. Riot | 21:49 |
| Maik | Newb101: https://element.io/get-started | 21:53 |
| isapgswell | hi | 21:55 |
| isapgswell | my keyboard appeared as pointer, and my razer mouse appeared as keyboard; both xinput | 21:56 |
| isapgswell | Razer Razer Abyssus Essential id=15[slave keyboard (3)] | 21:56 |
| V|A | youre doing well isapgswell thats next level shit *thumbsup* | 21:56 |
| oerheks | nice, how did you do that? | 21:56 |
| isapgswell | oerheks i do nothing | 21:57 |
| oerheks | do you use a 104 button mouse now? | 21:57 |
| isapgswell | oerheks how to i check? | 21:57 |
| V|A | xD i just cant take this | 21:57 |
| isapgswell | Gaming KB Gaming KB Consumer Control id=18[slave pointer (2)] | 21:58 |
| V|A | i dont know ubuntu or linux but are they on the same USB hub ? | 21:58 |
| isapgswell | do you mean xhci? | 21:59 |
| isapgswell | usbhid | 21:59 |
| isapgswell | ? | 21:59 |
| V|A | directly connected too the mainboard USB interface ? | 21:59 |
| isapgswell | yes, external mouse and keyboard | 21:59 |
| isapgswell | notebook motherboard | 21:59 |
| V|A | havve you tried unplugging/switching ? | 21:59 |
| isapgswell | yes | 22:00 |
| isapgswell | i have a macbook air and no problem | 22:00 |
| isapgswell | xinput show correct | 22:00 |
| V|A | i come from windows i dont know much abbout how linux handles pnp devices or drivers .. shit jsut works for me mostly :> | 22:00 |
| isapgswell | for me is it working, but some input lag | 22:00 |
| isapgswell | it is working, althought input lag | 22:01 |
| V|A | i suggest somehow making the host forget the previously installed/connected devices the ntrying again. im just assuming there is a way to do so ... | 22:01 |
| isapgswell | it appears only when using external keyboard and mouse | 22:03 |
| isapgswell | usb both | 22:03 |
| raffaem2 | I activated auto login | 22:04 |
| raffaem2 | so it doesn't ask for password at login | 22:04 |
| raffaem2 | now lock screen doesn't work | 22:04 |
| raffaem2 | Super+L does nothing | 22:04 |
| raffaem2 | how can I restore lock screen? | 22:04 |
| tomreyn | your ubuntu release, graphical desktop? | 22:05 |
| tomreyn | !enter | raffaem2 | 22:05 |
| ubottu | raffaem2: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone. | 22:05 |
| raffaem2 | I activated auto login, so it doesn't ask for password at login. Now lock screen doesn't work. Super+L does nothing. How can I restore lock screen? Ubuntu 20.10, GNOME 3.38, LInux 5.8 | 22:06 |
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| raffaem2 | tomreyn: provided above | 22:07 |
| tomreyn | and you use gdm3 as a login manager? | 22:07 |
| Newb101 | @maik, is element open source | 22:08 |
| Newb101 | Apache-2.0 License | 22:10 |
| Newb101 | by the looks of it | 22:10 |
| raffaem2 | <tomreyn "and you use gdm3 as a login mana"> I don't know. How can I check this? | 22:10 |
| tomreyn | raffaem2: it's the default login daemon. if you've installed default ubuntu and not replaced it then you'r eusing it. | 22:10 |
| raffaem2 | <tomreyn "raffaem2: it's the default login"> I installed Kubuntu, but I have replaced KDE with GNOME | 22:11 |
| raffaem2 | (if you see <...> sorry, it's the Element client I am using and I forget to don't quote) | 22:12 |
| tomreyn | hmm, this may be the source of the problem, what does this output? echo $GDMSESSION | 22:12 |
| raffaem2 | tomreyn: "ubuntu" | 22:12 |
| tomreyn | and echo $XAUTHORITY | 22:13 |
| raffaem2 | tomreyn: "/run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority" | 22:14 |
| tomreyn | hmm that looks good | 22:15 |
| tomreyn | raffaem2: how about if you try to initiate locking through the menu? | 22:16 |
| tomreyn | the top right power icon | 22:16 |
| raffaem2 | tomreyn: there is no lock button. Only susped, restart, power off and log out | 22:17 |
| tomreyn | can you share a screenshot on imgur.com? | 22:18 |
| tomreyn | actually not needed this seems to be default on 20.10, at least on the live iso i just tried. | 22:22 |
| raffaem2 | tomreyn: https://imgur.com/a/lXmovKd | 22:24 |
| tomreyn | raffaem2: you can checkl screen lock settings in settings -> privacy -> screen lock | 22:28 |
| tomreyn | also make sure that the ubuntu-desktop package is installed | 22:28 |
| tomreyn | hmm, for some reason, super-l is also not doing anything on this 20.10 VM i'm testing with | 22:31 |
| tomreyn | raffaem2: so it might be just a bug in 20.10. i searched for one, but can't find it | 22:34 |
| tomreyn | i searched a matching bug report, that is | 22:34 |
| raffaem2 | tomreyn: settings -> privacy -> screen lock shows the settings of the screen lock correctly | 22:39 |
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