[00:09] <Intelo> i added sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neovim-ppa/stable how do I remoe it?
[00:10] <sarnold>        -r, --remove Remove the specified repository
[00:12] <Intelo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neovim-ppa/stable -r
[00:12] <Intelo> sarnold: ?
[00:12] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | Intelo As neovim is in the repo
[00:14] <sarnold> Intelo: most programs that take switches to modify their behaviour want those switches before the 'data' arguments
[00:16] <Intelo> thanks
[00:28] <maxFlexGuest> I am having trouble finding the appropriate system location to create a custom keyboard layout on Ubuntu (not to modify an existing keyboard layout).
[00:32] <sarnold> maxFlexGuest: setxkbmap(1) has a -config option that looks like it might let you store it anywhere
[00:34] <Intelo> Which folders of a user , if an app is put/installed, automatically are included in $PATH?
[00:38] <quadrathoch2> Intelo depends as there are multiple directories (or if it's installed globally or only for the user)
[00:40] <sarnold> Intelo: /etc/skel/.profile provides a default ~/.profile that will add ~/bin and ~/.local/bin to the PATH of whatever shell is using that file
[00:43] <Intelo> hm ok
[02:11] <gnUser> Guys I would like to be able to scroll through my ubuntu desktops by doing Ctrl + alt + scroll wheel. You think this is possible?
[02:17] <sarnold> gnUser: probably; what desktop environment or window manager are you running?
[02:23] <gnUser> sarnold: Gnome Desktop
[02:27] <sarnold> gnUser: here's a gnome extension that's several years old, it might work https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1438/scroll-workspace/
[02:27] <sarnold> here's another that looks newer https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1616/panel-scroll/
[02:54] <rodrigoty23> does anybody here use sm player?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> rodrigoty23: If someone here did, what would be your real question ?
[03:02] <rodrigoty23> does it buffer for you bash?
[03:03] <rodrigoty23> while your mid way in the movie?
[03:04] <Bashing-om> rodrigoty23: Can not say as I do not use the app. Await and see what others respond with :D
[03:05] <rodrigoty23> yup sucks you dont watch movies then
[03:07] <Bashing-om> rodrigoty23: Well -= rather do support as to watch movies, But late at night on the couch movies are intertaining :D
[03:07] <rodrigoty23> yup
[03:09] <rodrigoty23> so what you use vlc?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> rodrigoty23: KISS - I have no audio on this work station :D
[03:12] <rodrigoty23> that has to suck
[04:12] <gnUser> sarnold: sorry bro, I had to go deal with an emergency but thanks for sending those extensions
[05:59] <aum> with ubuntu 20 root-on-zfs, how do I safely move the entire disk from a dying 256GB SSD to a pair of new 1TB SSDs?
[05:59] <usibrfucwadyxj> DEBIAN IS THE BEST
[06:00] <aum> I'm currently attempting to dd the whole 256GB disk to one of the new 1TB ones, and hoping to boot off that and expand the partition
[06:16] <rfm> aum, if it's zfs you should add the new disks to the zpool mirrot, wait to resilver, remove the dyig one
[06:18] -usibrfucwadyxj:#ubuntu- IMPORTANT REMINDER: Ubuntu is going end-of-life April 1.  To ensure continued security patches and ransomware protection, please make sure you upgrade to Debian by April 1, 2021.  Thank you.
[06:19] <rfm> aum, once you get the zpool mirror on the big disks, you can figure out how to expand the volumes
[06:21] <rfm> And for pete's sake can we wait for April to do April Fools?
[06:22] <EriC^> xD
[06:42] <imrjd> hi folks
[06:53] <dstry> hello imrjd
[06:54] <dstry> how's it going
[07:11] <imrjd> cool
[07:14] <dstry> nice
[08:11] <jarnos> Do latest Ubuntu releases come with some locate variant installed by default?
[08:21] <guiverc> jarnos, `find` is included (findutils package)
[09:47] <IchiseX> hola
[09:47] <IchiseX> does anybody here know, which component makes the LUKS decryption on Ubuntu Desktop look so nice? I mean the UI component?
[09:51] <fenns> hi I'm upgrading my LTS to 20.04. It's hanging on the command "Installing the chromium snap"
[09:51] <fenns> been like this for several minutes
[09:52] <fenns> any ideas?
[09:53] <fenns> oh it's continuing now - thanks anyway :-)
[09:55] <IchiseX> fenns: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/m5j9ns/i_was_upgrading_to_ubuntu_2004_when_i_got_stuck/
[09:55] <IchiseX> maybe there's some helpful info there,didnt really check
[09:56] <fenns> thanks
[09:59] <IchiseX> does anybody here know, which component makes the LUKS decryption on Ubuntu Desktop look so nice? I mean the UI component?
[10:07] <diofantoz> hi, can i not resize partitions while the partitions are mounted? (and i'm in the OS)
[10:08] <diofantoz> all guides refer to booting a live cd
[10:19] <abff> diofantoz: no not generally, you need to be able to access the devices themselves and if the system you're using depends on those devices being mounted- then you can't be messing with them
[10:20] <diofantoz> abff: yea, ok
[10:20] <diofantoz> this is the system partition so
[10:21] <diofantoz> ty
[10:21] <abff> yeah get yourself a live usb to boot into while working on that
[10:21] <abff> I wish you success
[10:53] <silv3r_m00n>  is it necessary to create the swap partition right next to root partition ? or can it be a few partitions away ?
[11:03] <IchiseX> silv3r_m00n: Are you setting it up for a desktop/notebook?
[11:12] <FooDog> silv3r_m00n: as i understand it, you can choose any order of partitions without hesitation in case you using SSD. If you use HDD, than the first ones partitions will be a little faster than the last ones. And of course, there's no critical need for creating a swap partition, if you setting up operating system for home use
[11:12] <Maik> silv3r_m00n: these days you don't need to create a swap partition anymore, Ubuntu creates a swap file by default
[11:12] <silv3r_m00n> Maik: ubuntu has a swap file already ?
[11:12] <silv3r_m00n> means if it runs out of space on ram it will use the file ?
[11:12] <silv3r_m00n> without thrashing the system ?
[11:13] <Maik> since 18.04
[11:13] <IchiseX> silv3r_m00n: this might answer some more questions: https://www.maketecheasier.com/need-swap-in-ubuntu/
[11:13] <silv3r_m00n> Maik: what is this feature called by the way ?
[11:13] <silv3r_m00n> actually this is a laptop that i dont plan to shutdown, it may stay in hibernation or suspend
[11:13] <silv3r_m00n> swap is not needed for that as well ?
[11:14] <IchiseX> silv3r_m00n: read the article :) there it talks about hibernation. as far as i understood, you need it for that purpose
[11:17] <aquanaut> hi how to solve this error?/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasdf
[11:19] <EriC^> aquanaut: are you trying to compile something?
[11:23] <silv3r_m00n> this is a brand new laptop with windows 10 pre-installed, i created extra space on the existing ssd for ubuntu installation, i have created 1 partition to be mounted as root, do i need to create something for the boot loader ? or how does it work ?
[11:26] <EriC^> silv3r_m00n: it depends if you're going to be using uefi or legacy
[11:26] <silv3r_m00n> there is an EFI partition of size 105 MB
[11:26] <silv3r_m00n> it belongs to windows 10 i guess
[11:26] <silv3r_m00n> now what do i do next
[11:26] <silv3r_m00n> i was told that ubuntu beside windows10 is tricky
[11:26] <EriC^> silv3r_m00n: ok, i'd create a separate efi partition for ubuntu
[11:27] <silv3r_m00n> i create a root partition in the free space area, i should add a new partition of type EFI ?
[11:27] <silv3r_m00n> and install bootloader in there ?
[11:28] <EriC^> yeah, you want to create a ~300mb partition and set the type to efi and also at the bottom of the screen where it says 'install bootloader to device' you should put /dev/sdX where sdX is the ubuntu hdd (and not sdX1 or 2)
[11:29] <silv3r_m00n> in that case, what happens to the windows 10 ? will be able to boot ?
[11:29] <silv3r_m00n> i guess the existing EFI partition is from where windows 10 boots
[11:29] <silv3r_m00n> there is only 1 ssd drive, and there is already an EFI partition, if i add 1 more there will be 2 EFI partitions
[11:29] <EriC^> silv3r_m00n: yeah, ubuntu will try to set itself first in the uefi boot order, and grub should have windows
[11:30] <silv3r_m00n> but if i put /dev/sdX  and not /dev/sdX1 or /dev/sdX2 how will ubuntu know which EFI drive to choose ?
[11:30] <EriC^> if your board has odd implementations, as many do, then you'll get windows once you reboot, and then you'll need to see what can be done
[11:30] <EriC^> silv3r_m00n: cause you set the 300mb to efi type
[11:31] <silv3r_m00n> the the existing 105mb efi partition ? what happens to that
[11:31] <EriC^> it's not touched
[11:31] <IchiseX> silv3r_m00n: This might help https://www.itzgeek.com/post/how-to-install-ubuntu-20-04-alongside-with-windows-10-in-dual-boot/
[11:31] <silv3r_m00n> its like 105mb efi + 200gb windows 10 + 80gb ext4 / + rest blank
[11:32] <EriC^> i thought ubuntu is on a separate hdd, it's the same one?
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> EriC^: if its not touched, then how will ubuntu know to use the second EFI and not the first
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> yes same
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> single SSD
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> single 512gb ssd and windows 10 pre installed
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> now i create free space to install ubuntu
[11:32] <EriC^> ah ok, nevermind the efi for ubuntu then, just create root fs and it will use the windows efi
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> the windows efi is 105mb, is that sufficient ?
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> i read somewhere it should be about 500mb atleast
[11:33] <EriC^> it should be yeah, the ubuntu files are only 5mb here
[11:33] <silv3r_m00n> OH GREAT
[11:33] <silv3r_m00n> means i had to do nothing but click next
[11:33] <silv3r_m00n> let me do that
[11:33] <silv3r_m00n> will be back in a while after installation finishes
[11:34] <krmt> hi! Is there a way of using git from nautilus?
[11:36] <krmt> (with a GUI)
[11:38] <IchiseX> krmt: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/simple-nautilus-git-integration
[11:38] <IchiseX> and some more https://askubuntu.com/questions/4788/nautilus-git-integration
[11:41] <krmt> IchiseX: I had seen those, but they look ansolutely ancient. The second is not available for > 17.04
[11:43] <IchiseX> oopsie, sorry then.
[11:43] <IchiseX> why not use the terminal?
[11:43] <IchiseX> i know, that's not the question.
[11:44] <krmt> IchiseX: just because .... I am trying to see whether I can run everything from GUI, experiencing ubuntu as would my wife .... I have to say, overall not very happy.
[11:45] <IchiseX> how about a gui version of git?
[11:46] <krmt> IchiseX: such as git-cola?
[11:47] <krmt> IchiseX: that is actually quite good, but not well integrated into nautilus.
[11:47] <krmt> IchiseX: git-gui does not integrate at all.
[11:47] <krmt> IchiseX: the nicest I have seen so far is to fire up eclipse and import.
[11:48] <krmt> IchiseX: very elegant and fairly simple. Yet, you have to install eclipse which is not that easy.
[11:51] <krmt> IchiseX: which other alternative would you suggest?
[11:58] <krmt>  another question .... does libjack-jackd2-0 do anything useful?
[12:01] <tomreyn> it provides shared libraries for the JACK Audio Connection Kit
[12:02] <tomreyn> so other software that's compiled against jack would probably need them
[12:03] <krmt> tomreyn: I understand .... I thought ubuntu was not using jack though?
[12:05] <tomreyn> krmt: it doesn't, not the main flavor, other flavors do, specifically UbuntuStudio
[12:07] <krmt> tomreyn: this is what I thought .... I would like to rmeove it to be able to sue mycroft.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:24] <drupol> hello all
[12:24] <drupol> I'm unable to run apt-get update since a couple of days
[12:24] <drupol> I'm looking for help
[12:25] <drupol> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nSMJcv2M/
[12:45] <summonner> change repos and see if that helps?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> looks like you have a ppa that's no longer valid mucking up the works
[14:09] <silv3r_m00n1> hi there
[14:09] <silv3r_m00n1> i encrypted my home directory following instructions here, https://blog.sensecodons.com/2019/10/encrypt-your-home-directory-using-luks.html
[14:09] <silv3r_m00n1> its working fine, is there anything else i need to do as best practises ?
[14:12] <cbreak> make sure you have backups
[14:12] <silv3r_m00n1> backups of data in home ?
[14:13] <silv3r_m00n1> doing that too
[14:20] <mfraz74> Is there an issue with the ddebs repository key?
[14:41] <radue> guys, i'm trying to set up an mpd server inside lxc (proxmox) and it seems i cannot set pulseaudio to work (no soundcard and x not running), any ideas if it's possible to have a headless mpd server? maybe all i need is get a soundcard and passthrough it to the container? Or is there any other way..?
[14:49] <knstn> Does Ubuntu Live ISO contain a memtest option for UEFI systems?
[14:50] <etronik> Hi all, how do I make Document Viewer the default app to open PDF files instead of LibreOffice ? TIA
[14:51] <debouncer> Is there any difference between installing docker from PPA and installing it with snap?
[15:16] <ducasse> knstn: afaik memtest is not available for uefi systems yet, at least not for free
[15:18] <Ravage> https://www.memtest86.com/tech_booting-v5.html
[15:19] <Ravage> https://www.memtest86.com/compare.html
[15:58] <Kobaz> #
[15:59] <Kobaz> having an issue with a Pantech UML295 USB 4g.  https://dpaste.com/7Y847HEBK
[16:00] <Kobaz> Initially the usb driver recognizes it as a cdrom, it switches modes to ether, and then i briefly get an ip address on enxd05785744e1f and then i get a usb device reset... the device itself works fine, it works on windows/mac without issue
[16:14] <Ravage> https://allmybrain.com/2020/04/20/pantech-verizon-uml295-usb-cellular-access-on-linux/ looks worth a try
[16:16] <Kobaz> Yeah, I found that too
[16:16] <nedR> etronik, right click a pdf>properties>Open with
[16:16] <Kobaz> Looks like ubuntu is already handling the mode switch. because it does get into cdc_ether mode
[16:17] <Kobaz> Ravage: my issue is that after the mode switch from usb storage to qmi, usb connectivity only lasts about 5 seconds
[16:18] <Kobaz> usb 3-3: USB disconnect, device number 22    cdc_acm 3-3:1.6: failed to set dtr/rts
[16:19] <Kobaz> Ravage: I have connectivity briefly, and then it just suddenly disconnects and reconnects (it does not do this on windows/mac)
[16:25] <nedR> debouncer, i dunno about docker specifically... generally snaps are more of a PITA. Andthe idea of running a docker inside a snap...**shivers
[16:28] <etronik> nedR, thanks for your tip, but that's what I do for each which is a pain, I want to make the choice permanent so that on souble-click always assumes sames app
[16:31] <etronik> nedR, but your tip help me find a way - thanks! under properties there's a button for file-type that will change setting in a general way
[16:32] <nedR> etronik, nice.. i guess it changed.. for me on 18.04 it is in File Properties>Open with
[16:32] <diofantoz> tried to resize a LUKS encrypted disk in ubuntu ... no go with gparted so i found that partitionmanager might work
[16:32] <diofantoz> but no go, it at least lists the disks but no way of resizing
[16:33] <Kobaz> I might wind up bite the bullet and get a TP-LINK TL-MR3020.  Which apparently does work with a Pantech UML295
[16:50] <tomreyn> diofantoz: resizing the crypto container is possible, but not simple. once you've backed up, try your luck with the cryptsetup utility in a terminal.
[16:51] <tomreyn> be aware that it wont resize any layers it contains, so you'll need to do those seperately, before (when shrinking) or after (when growing) the crypto layer
[16:53] <tomreyn> Kobaz: if you're running into a usb device reset then a different router wont fix that
[16:54] <tomreyn> Kobaz:oh, ignore that, i misunderstood what you're doing.
[17:22] <Kobaz> tomreyn: yeah it's a dongle to host the usb 4g modem and spin that off into ethernet
[17:44] <diofantoz> tomreyn: alright, i read something about that
[17:44] <diofantoz> but also that partitionmanager would do
[17:45] <tomreyn> i'm not sure what "partitionmanager" is
[17:45] <diofantoz> it's a gui partition app
[17:45] <diofantoz> ... might as well format the disk and setup again
[17:45] <diofantoz> might be easier
[17:46] <tomreyn> possibly
[17:46] <diofantoz> we'll see, thanks for the input
[17:47] <tomreyn> backup, boot from a a compatible live iso, try your luck with this partitioning gui, check whether it seems to have worked. if it didn't, use the live/installer iso to reinstall, then restore backups.
[18:14] <Kobaz>  /join #gnome
[18:15] <kgh> I'm having some trouble with DHCP on a freshly installed 20.10, anyone have any experience with this?
[18:16] <oerheks> kgh, we need more details
[18:16] <oerheks> !paste
[18:17] <kgh> the machine is an hp envy, ip link shows the interface is UP, tcpdump shows bootp/dhcp requests outbound, router link lights and linux both say 1GBps connection
[18:17] <kgh> I can't easily cut/paste from the machine since it's not reachable
[18:19] <kgh> I've tried manually assigning an addr, didn't help
[18:19] <kgh> I've tried xover cable to my laptop, didn't work
[18:19] <meandrain> kgh: you can't ping the router ?
[18:19] <kgh> I've installed 20.10 in bridge mode on a VM on my laptop, and that works
[18:19] <kgh> no, can't ping the router
[18:20] <kgh> tpcdump doesn't show any traffic from the router either
[18:20] <meandrain> what is your laptop ip and subnet ?
[18:20] <kgh> it's like the MAC isn't working, although as I said the lights and ip link seem happy
[18:20] <oerheks> oh a vm
[18:20] <meandrain> you can't cut and paste but you can take pictures and uplod to imgur
[18:20] <kgh> the laptop is connected to the same router
[18:21] <oerheks> must be a host network issue then
[18:21] <oerheks> btw with a vm, sure your hoste can paste.
[18:21] <kgh> no, the vm is the working
[18:22] <kgh> the machine is not working
[18:22] <kgh> just tell me what you need to see, I can type it out or something - I'm at a loss for where to look
[18:23] <meandrain> kgh: do the following:    type ifconfig (take picture), do a ping from machine to the router, then do "arp -na"
[18:23] <meandrain> if you can see the router MAC, you have network connectivity with the router
[18:24] <meandrain> if you can't see router's mac, is a network issue like bad cable
[18:24] <oerheks> the host is not working? weird
[18:24] <kgh> it's not a bad cable, I can use this cable on other machines
[18:24] <kgh> I've already said tcpdump shows no traffic from the router
[18:25] <meandrain> so you don't see router's MAC ?
[18:25] <kgh> ifconfig and arp aren't installed but ip link shows link up
[18:25] <kgh> ip neigh is empty
[18:27] <kgh> I just converted this machine from windows, I am sure all hardware works
[18:28] <oerheks> i think you whould fix networking on the host.
[18:29] <oerheks> are you running mint, btw?
[18:29] <kgh> no, Ubuntu 20.10
[18:30] <kgh> I'm not familiar with some of the new eth naming stuff, but this interface shows as eno1 - there are no traffic statts
[18:30] <kgh> ip link show: 2: eno1: <BROADCAST, MULTICAST, UP, LOWER_UP>> mtu ...  etc
[18:30] <kgh> all looks normal
[18:31] <kgh> the /proc/net/dev stats for eno1 are all 0
[18:32] <SlimTim> hello, can ubuntu run on  chromebooks?
[18:36] <oerheks> SlimTim, see our wiki, i would stick to chome os https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-on-chromebook#1-overview
[18:36] <kgh> so this isn't ringing bells for anyone?  how can ip link have L2 up but then nothing TX/RX on the interface?
[18:37] <meandrain> kgh:  might be a routing problem
[18:37] <meandrain> happend to me once but I don't remember exactly what was the issue
[18:37] <kgh> it's not routing, I can see the kernel sending DCHP requests on tcpdump, those aren't ticking any TX stats on the interface
[18:37] <SlimTim> Thank you oerheks
[18:37] <kgh> sorry - dhclient of course, not the kernel
[18:38] <meandrain> try to make it to work with manual IP
[18:38] <kgh> I already did - doesn't help
[18:39] <kgh> maybe the NIC driver isn't installed?
[18:39] <kgh> or it's the wrong one?
[18:40] <meandrain> kgh:   https://dpaste.org/rRJU
[18:41] <meandrain> don't forget to edit network driver name
[18:41] <kgh> does the filename matter?  I don't know much about netplan - my file is 01-network-manager-all.yaml
[18:41] <kgh> so create new file or edit that one?
[18:42] <kgh> also my renderer is NetworkManager, does that manager?
[18:42] <tomreyn> if this is a desktop / graphical system, you probably want to keep using network-manager, not move to systemd-networkd, as meandrain's file would
[18:42] <meandrain> networkmanager sucks
[18:43] <tomreyn> well, it works well enough for most
[18:43] <meandrain> tomreyn: it's faster using command line to configure network
[18:43] <tomreyn> meandrain: that's your opinion, not everyone may agree.
[18:44] <tomreyn> kgh: just to confirm, this is a VM running ubuntu 20.10 on some hp envy model where the host system is unknown, using an unknown type of routing, and unknown physical network interface?
[18:44] <tomreyn> or is this ubuntu 20.10 running bare emtal on this system?
[18:45] <kgh> baremetal
[18:46] <tomreyn> if "ip neigh" shows nothing then i guess it's either a driver, a firmware or a hardware issue.
[18:46] <kgh> shouldn't the 'netplan apply' cause the addr to appear in ip addr?
[18:46] <tomreyn> which network interface is it, vendor and device id, or rather   lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:47] <kgh> Realtek Semi RTL8111/8168/8411
[18:47] <tomreyn> netplan apply should apply the configuration that is configured, if it can be applied
[18:47] <kgh> driver r8169
[18:47] <tomreyn> those aren't vendor + device ids
[18:48] <kgh> you mean the [10ec:8168] and [103c:2b36]
[18:48] <tomreyn> right
[18:48] <tomreyn> also, what's the output of    cat /proc/{cmdline,version}
[18:50] <kgh> can't cut/paste -cmdline is BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.8.0-43-generic root=UUID=<uuid> ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[18:50] <kgh> running 5.8.0-43-generic from 20.10 - #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu from feb 5 2021
[18:50] <tomreyn> oh, it's offline entirely? no wireless lan?
[18:51] <kgh> it doesn't have wireless it's an older machine
[18:51] <tomreyn> do you have a smartphone you can connect with a wire to usb and tether through?
[18:53] <kgh> perhaps
[18:54] <tomreyn> see if you have those oopses in dmesg / journalctl -b   https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204343
[18:55] <tomreyn> (grep for 'BUG:')
[18:56] <kgh> there's no oops, there's an early message from NETDEV abotu transmit queue 0 timing out, and then a bunch of messages saying rtl_rxtx_empty_cond == 0
[18:58] <tomreyn> does it say " ------------[ cut here ]------------" above that message?
[18:58] <kgh> no
[18:58] <tomreyn> is this an onboard NIC?
[18:58] <kgh> yes, it's the MB NIC
[18:59] <tomreyn> is the bios current?
[18:59] <kgh> wait
[18:59] <kgh> yes, it says cut here
[18:59] <kgh> I had a grep when I saw it first
[18:59] <kgh> so it's an oops
[18:59] <tomreyn> right
[19:00] <tomreyn> "Hardware name:" (below that) says?
[19:00] <tomreyn> or run   journalctl -b | grep DMI:
[19:01] <kgh> HP 750-160qe/2B36, BIOS A0.08 08/25/2015, so no, the BIOS is not up to date
[19:01] <tomreyn> give that a try then
[19:01] <kgh> yup, thanks for the help
[19:05] <tomreyn> kgh there's also https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209839#c21
[19:06] <tomreyn> i have not checked whether or not that's present in your kernel version
[19:08] <tomreyn> kgh: so it looks like a NIC firmware / driver bug. bios update *may* help, and the driver patch should. latest entry in the bug report suggests this was merged into linux 5.11
[19:08] <tomreyn> !mainline
[19:10] <tomreyn> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.11.8/ is the latest stable build
[19:12] <oerheks> good spot, bios update
[19:12] <oerheks> i was reading about secureboot, no reason not to, sofar.
[19:14] <tomreyn> A0.13 Rev.A is the latest BIOS for this ROM family
[19:15] <tomreyn> https://support.hp.com/gb-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-envy-750-100-desktop-pc-series/8499646/model/8501666/swItemId/cp-177351-2
[19:17] <tomreyn> this also includes an intel me security update
[19:23] <DarHaram> Well got banned from #fedora within an hour after registered
[19:23] <jidar> looks like you should get banned from here too
[19:23] <DarHaram> They didn't like courting _shawn for "bosom recommend"
[19:24] <tomreyn> !ot | DarHaram
[19:24] <DarHaram> Jidar why? Is everything's big tex balloon of protocols and fairness?
[19:25] <DarHaram> America is spreading democracy did you see Atlas shrugged?
[19:25] <DarHaram> Other mesmerized by big Tex
[19:26] <DarHaram> Hold you down
[19:26] <DarHaram> Beequal with lowlifes
[19:36] <m_> I'm having trouble with understanding how Livepatch works. As far as I know it is supposed to somehow upgrade the kernel without rebooting my system. OK, but why does it need me to set up a Ubuntu One account? (And read a lengthy legal note?)
[19:37] <m_> In what way does setting up a Ubuntu One account help upgrading the kernel without rebooting my system?
[19:38] <tomreyn> m_: not. it'S a commercial service offering with a free usage tier. that's why.
[19:39] <tomreyn> developing and testing live patches takes a lot of effort which is why no one offers them for free.
[19:40] <tomreyn> except, there's a free for non-commercial (IIRC) use tier in canonicals' offering for ubuntu
[19:41] <m_> so i have to sign up to obtain the right to use them as long as i declare that i use this non commercially?
[19:41] <tomreyn> generally, if you have questions about commercial Canonical services, it's best to contact them about it, since this channel is mostly community / volunteer run,
[19:42] <tomreyn> !livepatch
[19:52] <m_> thanks for the links, reading them now
[20:06] <debouncer> is it possible to upgrade 16.04 ubuntu installer to install 20.04?
[20:07] <debouncer> maybe by modifiying some configuration files?
[20:11] <tomreyn> debouncer: no, installations use a base system image which is included in the installer iso
[20:13] <tomreyn> you could try using the zsync approach, but i doubt it'll save you more than a few megabytes
[20:17] <tomreyn> debouncer: i.e.   zsync -i /path/to/your-existing-ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso http://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/ubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[20:17] <tomreyn> but it's probably just a waste of time
[20:23] <mendi> i have 2 empty hard drives formatted with makentfs, one of them shows up in bios boot order, any idea how? it creeps me up as it should be 100% empty
[20:24] <mendi> both 100% functional
[20:24] <debouncer> yeah, nevermind
[20:25] <mendi> could the firmware somehow be bootkited?
[20:26] <mendi> because i did reinitialize the drive to dos and then to gpt with fdisk
[20:32] <jarred> whats the fastest way to create like 10,000 symlinks
[20:33] <jarred>  in code, not from a CLI (unless spawning a child process is faster)
[20:41] <tomreyn> jarred: ask your favourite programming channel, i'd say.
[20:43] <oerheks> jarred, what have you found sofar?
[20:43] <oerheks> :-D
[20:44] <kgh> https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/link.2.html
[20:45] <kgh> int i; char path[1024]; for (i = 0; i < 10000; i++) { snprintf(path, sizeof path, "linkname-%d", i); link(OLDPATH, path); }
[20:46] <jarred> is there a way to use something like io_uring to batch the system calls into one (and is that faster)?
[20:47] <kgh> I am not an expert but I doubt it, you're not doing file IO you're asking the kernel to create inodes
[20:47] <oerheks> for i in {1..10000};  ln -s /dev/urandom /dev/random;  done
[20:48] <oerheks> no?
[20:48] <kgh> @oerheks that will spawn 10000 separate processes, will be much slower than syscall
[20:52] <jarred> kgh: okay i'll keep digging but will just use a for loop if i can't find a faster way
[20:55] <kgh> sorry - I should have pointed you to https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/symlink.2.html
[20:56] <kgh> link(2) is for hard links
[20:59] <kgh> I guess I should also comment that something like io_uring won't make it faster (even if you could use it for symlink(2) which it doesn't seem you can)
[20:59] <kgh> io_uring makes it async (non blocking) which is only useful if you want your program to do other work while the kernel is handling your IO request
[21:18] <Newb101> can anyone recommend an open source matrix client for ubuntu
[21:18] <Newb101> ?
[21:20] <oerheks> maybe there is a snap?
[21:22] <oerheks> not all irc channels allow matrix as a bridge, so i have no clue if there is a legit client https://snapcraft.io/search?q=matrix
[21:22] <Newb101> fair enough
[21:49] <Maik> Newb101: Element f.k.a. Riot
[21:53] <Maik> Newb101: https://element.io/get-started
[21:55] <isapgswell> hi
[21:56] <isapgswell> my keyboard appeared as pointer,  and my razer mouse appeared as keyboard; both xinput
[21:56] <isapgswell> Razer Razer Abyssus Essential           	id=15	[slave  keyboard (3)]
[21:56] <V|A> youre doing well isapgswell thats next level shit *thumbsup*
[21:56] <oerheks> nice, how did you do that?
[21:57] <isapgswell> oerheks i do nothing
[21:57] <oerheks> do you use a 104 button mouse now?
[21:57] <isapgswell> oerheks how to i check?
[21:57] <V|A> xD  i just cant take this
[21:58] <isapgswell> Gaming KB  Gaming KB  Consumer Control  	id=18	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[21:58] <V|A> i dont know ubuntu or linux but are they on the same USB hub ?
[21:59] <isapgswell> do you mean xhci?
[21:59] <isapgswell> usbhid
[21:59] <isapgswell> ?
[21:59] <V|A> directly connected too the mainboard USB interface ?
[21:59] <isapgswell> yes, external mouse and keyboard
[21:59] <isapgswell> notebook motherboard
[21:59] <V|A> havve you tried unplugging/switching ?
[22:00] <isapgswell> yes
[22:00] <isapgswell> i have a macbook air and no problem
[22:00] <isapgswell> xinput show correct
[22:00] <V|A> i come from windows i dont know much abbout how linux handles pnp devices or drivers .. shit jsut works for me mostly :>
[22:00] <isapgswell> for me is it working, but some input lag
[22:01] <isapgswell> it is working, althought input lag
[22:01] <V|A> i suggest somehow making the host forget the previously installed/connected devices the ntrying again. im just assuming there is a way to do so ...
[22:03] <isapgswell> it appears only when using external keyboard and mouse
[22:03] <isapgswell> usb both
[22:04] <raffaem2> I activated auto login
[22:04] <raffaem2> so it doesn't ask for password at login
[22:04] <raffaem2> now lock screen doesn't work
[22:04] <raffaem2> Super+L does nothing
[22:04] <raffaem2> how can I restore lock screen?
[22:05] <tomreyn> your ubuntu release, graphical desktop?
[22:05] <tomreyn> !enter | raffaem2
[22:06] <raffaem2> I activated auto login, so it doesn't ask for password at login. Now lock screen doesn't work. Super+L does nothing. How can I restore lock screen? Ubuntu 20.10, GNOME 3.38, LInux 5.8
[22:07] <raffaem2> tomreyn: provided above
[22:07] <tomreyn> and you use gdm3 as a login manager?
[22:08] <Newb101> @maik, is element open source
[22:10] <Newb101>  Apache-2.0 License
[22:10] <Newb101> by the looks of it
[22:10] <raffaem2> <tomreyn "and you use gdm3 as a login mana"> I don't know. How can I check this?
[22:10] <tomreyn> raffaem2: it's the default login daemon. if you've installed default ubuntu and not replaced it then you'r eusing it.
[22:11] <raffaem2> <tomreyn "raffaem2: it's the default login"> I installed Kubuntu, but I have replaced KDE with GNOME
[22:12] <raffaem2> (if you see <...> sorry, it's the Element client I am using and I forget to don't quote)
[22:12] <tomreyn> hmm, this may be the source of the problem, what does this output?  echo $GDMSESSION
[22:12] <raffaem2> tomreyn: "ubuntu"
[22:13] <tomreyn> and   echo $XAUTHORITY
[22:14] <raffaem2> tomreyn: "/run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority"
[22:15] <tomreyn> hmm that looks good
[22:16] <tomreyn> raffaem2: how about if you try to initiate locking through the menu?
[22:16] <tomreyn> the top right power icon
[22:17] <raffaem2> tomreyn: there is no lock button. Only susped, restart, power off and log out
[22:18] <tomreyn> can you share a screenshot on imgur.com?
[22:22] <tomreyn> actually not needed this seems to be default on 20.10, at least on the live iso i just tried.
[22:24] <raffaem2> tomreyn: https://imgur.com/a/lXmovKd
[22:28] <tomreyn> raffaem2: you can checkl screen lock settings in settings -> privacy -> screen lock
[22:28] <tomreyn> also make sure that the   ubuntu-desktop    package is installed
[22:31] <tomreyn> hmm, for some reason, super-l is also not doing anything on this 20.10 VM i'm testing with
[22:34] <tomreyn> raffaem2: so it might be just a bug in 20.10. i searched for one, but can't find it
[22:34] <tomreyn> i searched a matching bug report, that is
[22:39] <raffaem2> tomreyn: settings -> privacy -> screen lock shows the settings of the screen lock correctly