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RoadRunnercan't log into my Xub 20.04 desktop, help?00:08
jehutydegressionCan you provide any details?00:15
RoadRunnernot sure what else to say, everything worked fine since I installed it almost a year ago, but since a few days ago canoot login; type in the pswd the comp doesn't say it is incorrect the login box disapeears, the screen is redawn and then the log in box reappers again00:18
RoadRunner*redrawn *reappears...00:23
RoadRunnerhope this is enough clues for a coarse of action00:25
guivercRoadRunner, if insufficient space exists in $HOME (your user directory), GUI work files won't be able to be created & a GUI login will fail, and you'll get logged out (ie. login loop).  Your text login will still work, so you can explore if you're out of disk space & correct there if that's a problem (ie using `df` or disk free)01:05
RoadRunnerguiverc:  indeed, I was out of space on my (separate) home partition. But after this, I logged in without issues from my older 16.04 backup partition and liberated about 3GB of space (out of 15 total on my Home partition); restarted (warm reboot), and still could not loggin into the 20.04 partition. Should I try a cold reboot or something more?01:13
guivercyou don't need anything like GB of free space.. but if that's your issue; once resolved a GUI login should proceed normally (next attempt).  Next likely cause would be a change made in last session where it worked; can you think of any?01:15
RoadRunnerso how much free space must be available not to end up in a login loop? df says my home use is at 82%; my sda5 (which I believe is my 16.04 install) is at 83% but sda7 (which I believe is my 20.04 install) isn't listed at all. The only thing out of the ordinary, was my booting into an older Win XP partition. After that the login issue started.01:29
RoadRunnerguiverc: GParted shows sda7 with only 478MB of free space. Is that too little?01:33
guivercthe key area is $HOME or /home/$USER ..  I'm unsure how much space is actually required, but I'd expect a login to work with 478MB available01:34
RoadRunnercan you see a login into Win to be a potential problem (hasn't been one before...)?01:36
guivercI don't know how Win relates, I assumed you were asking about Xubuntu; what release are you using?01:38
RoadRunnerguiverc: you must have missed my earlier post, I will repeat it: df says my home use is at 82%; my sda5 (which I believe is my 16.04 install) is at 83% but sda7 (which I believe is my 20.04 install) isn't listed at all. The only thing out of the ordinary, was my booting into an older Win XP partition. After that the login issue started.01:39
guivercthe % requires me to know the size to be meaningful; Xubuntu 16.04 LTS is EOL as being a flavor; it came with 3 years of support only.  logging into XP won't impact anything01:41
guiverconly the partitions currently in use (you can login to text terminal & look at what is mounted, or /etc/fstab for the file-system table to see).  Only the currently mounted $HOME matters at gui login.01:42
RoadRunnerguiverc: sda8 (home): 15GB total - 3.4GB unused; sda5: 20.5GB total - 4.4GB unused; sda7: 12GB total - 478MB unused01:54
RoadRunnercurrently working from sda501:54
guivercyou've tagged sda8 as /home; 3.4gb is plenty.  I originally mentioned a text login, ie. ctrl+alt+F4 or equiv. to switch to text & login & explore for issues01:57
RoadRunnerI haven't tried a cold reboot after I liberated space on home. Maybe that's the next easiest thing to try?01:57
guivercno reboot is needed; if it's a space issue, once resolved (via text session), switching back to gui (ctrl+alt+F1) will have the gui login work.01:59
RoadRunnerok, will have to quit this to find out. Thank's for the help but I have a feeling I'll be back... :)02:06
ironhoofin 20.04 whats te best way to set home to a second drive? I already ahve it formatted with swap partition06:21
ironhoofhave*06:21
diogenes_ironhoof, /etc/fstab06:22
ironhoofok, what do I add? the uuid from sda2?06:23
diogenes_UUID=1297d3c7-35c6-44b0-b694-4f2c797b1fae /home          ext4    defaults,noatime 0 206:24
diogenes_change your uuid06:24
ironhoofok, let me try that06:24
ironhoofadded, let me reboot06:26
ironhoofhmm, cant tell if it worked, cant mount the drive, and cant check in groupds advanced is blocked off06:30
ironhoofgroups06:30
diogenes_ findmnt /home06:30
ironhoofjust back to prompt06:31
diogenes_which means it didn't work.06:32
ironhoofnods, yea what I figured.06:32
ironhoofUUID=13b07172-ab78-44f8-be00-be994439d908 /home ext4 defaults,noatime 0 206:32
diogenes_try update-initramfs -u06:34
ironhoofI: Set the RESUME variable to override this.06:35
ironhoofimportant?06:36
diogenes_ignore06:36
ironhoofok reboot06:36
ironhoofwow didnt get very far that disabled the restart and shutdown06:38
ironhoofhm06:38
ironhoofnot too worried can always reinstall if things go wayward06:39
diogenes_is that drive even etx4?06:39
ironhoofchecks gparted and disks again06:39
ironhoof483 GB Ext406:40
ironhoof17 GB swap part06:40
ironhoofExt4 (version 1.0) — Not Mounted06:42
diogenes_you need to copy your user folder onto the drive.06:44
ironhoofwith or without home itself06:45
ironhoofi copied it with home06:45
ironhoofso its media/drive/home/user06:45
diogenes_ironhoof, here is a more detailed guide: https://www.maketecheasier.com/move-home-folder-ubuntu/06:47
ironhoofpeeks06:50
ironhoofI'll get it did the swap, thanks for the help06:50
PeGaSuSI was wondering if there's any way to have a visual notification or something like that, system wide, when  NumLock key is activated/deactivated09:46
PeGaSuSI don't seem to be able to find anything just for the numlock key and that works on the login screen also10:08
diogenes_PeGaSuS, numlockx on10:10
PeGaSuSI've read about it, but that enables numlock by default on boot, right? I mean, I want numlock disabled by default but I'd like a visual notification when I press the numlock key10:18
PeGaSuSalthough that visual notification must be for all users and also display the notification on the login screen10:19
=== sorinello1 is now known as sorinello
xu-help38wHow can I turn off crash/error reporting in xubuntu 20.0414:48
RoadRunnerCan't do gui login into my Xub 20.04 desktop. df is showing my xub 20.04 partition 100% used (home partition 82% used). How to id what filled the xub partition and clean it up?17:57
tomreynRoadRunner: how large is / ?18:00
RoadRunnerxub 20.04 is on sda7 which is 12.3 GB18:01
tomreynhmm that's not really enough for a desktop system nowadays18:02
tomreynmaybe you have lvm? sudo vgs18:02
RoadRunnerno lvm18:02
RoadRunnerjust ext418:03
tomreynyou can regain some space with    sudo apt clean18:03
tomreynsome more by clearing older files / directrories in /var/tmp18:04
tomreynyet more by deleting kernels and initrds you no longer need out of /boot/18:04
RoadRunnerhow to tell which kernels and initrds are no longer needed (I thought only three older kernel ver's are suppose to be kept now)?18:06
tomreynyet more by deleting software packages you don't need (   apt-mark showmanual    for a list of what's installed)18:06
tomreynthe current and the latest two are kept now, fo all tracking packages you have installed (for both the original release kernel version + HWE version if you have both tracking packages)18:08
tomreyncat /proc/version   hints on what's running18:08
tomreynjournalctl --rotate    may save yet more space18:09
tomreyn(but you'll loose older system logs this way)18:09
RoadRunnerI'll try those; any more or is that pretty much the full list?18:10
tomreynthere is probably more i can't think of right now.18:11
tomreynonce you regained some space, you can install ncdu and browse directories (run it with sudo) to get a better idea of what consumes how much space. don't delete what you don't know, though18:12
RoadRunnermy current partition worked without issues for close to a year now. What could have changed to cause this now (I haven't installed anything new)?18:13
tomreynthat's really hard to tell. i would have guessed on software installations indeed18:16
RoadRunnerok, what size partition would you recommend for a desktop system now?18:17
RoadRunnerfor xub 20 and for a current debian?18:17
tomreyn20 is usually safe. but it really depends on what you'll install18:18
RoadRunner20 for xub 20 or for Debian?18:19
RoadRunneror both given not a ton of other soft...18:21
tomreynthis channel is about xubuntu, so xubuntu18:22
jjbugglemy screen sleep times are not being respected.  It seems to be stuck at around 7 minutes of inactivity, even though I have it set to 2 hours18:24
RoadRunnertomreyn: Thank you. I also, tried to increase the partition size (I have unpartitioned space) but GParted failed saying I need newer e2fsck (my ver is 1.42.13). Is there a way of getting a newer version without compiling?18:25
tomreynRoadRunner: use gparted from an ubuntu installer/live system which is the same version as the one you have installed.18:26
tomreyn*xubuntu18:27
RoadRunnerahhh, I was running my Gparted from my older 16.04 partition... I see the light!!! Thank you again :)18:29
tomreyn:)18:30

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