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ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Would it be possible to setup a build server on say a Synology NAS?00:41
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yes, but Synology doesn't tend to put very good hardware in those things. A Raspberry Pi 4 would probably be faster.00:54
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> On what criteria do you say that about the hardware?00:54
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I have a DS1019+00:55
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It ain't building anything.00:55
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Underpowered processor?00:56
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yes00:56
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Hmmmm.00:56
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Buy it as a NAS where you can shout at someone else if it breaks, not as a general purpose computer.00:57
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> I wonder if the DS1821+ would be up to scratch.00:57
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Impressive. But cheaper to slap together a Ryzen board.00:59
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> I'm trying to upgrade uPower Indicator on my laptop. I can but the docker images are chunky.01:00
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> And you have to get around the device being designed as a NAS, not a general purpose computer. You can run Docker on it, but it's awkward.01:00
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Clickable almost certainly won't run without doing something a little dumb. I don't know what that would be, mind.01:00
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> That checks out.01:00
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> If I do eventually end up getting it primarily for backup purposes, I could look into it.01:01
ubptgbotFrederic LESUR was added by: Frederic LESUR04:21
ubptgbotpabbloescobarr was added by: pabbloescobarr04:33
ubptgbot<pabbloescobarr> Greetings to all!!! I tried yesterday to flash through the Redmi Note 7 application on Ubuntu Touch, but nothing happened! (I also tried through Windowc and Ubuntu! While Fastboot seems to be loading, but then it reboots itself into recovery and everything gets up !!! Not like in the video that I was thrown off ! Maybe you need to04:34
ubptgbotreflash the recovery? Put TWRP ??04:34
ubptgbot<pabbloescobarr> made on this video04:35
ubptgbot<pabbloescobarr> Fwd from S1zENY: И что тут сложного ? https://youtu.be/zuLFTGkuD6804:35
ubptgbot<pabbloescobarr> Thanks in advance for your help !!04:36
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @pabbloescobarr [Greetings to all!!! I tried yesterday to flash through the Redmi Note 7 applicat …], Is the phone unlocked? The UBports installer works well with Redmi Note 7 in my experience -  https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/lavender/04:54
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Could someone with a OP3 or OP3T please do a ```ls /sys/class/power_supply/battery``` for me?05:01
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> @Danfro [And I may add, if the selfi cam missing a focus us the only drawback, well I wou …], ssh needs to be constantly restarted on Xperia X also.07:06
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> @TotalSonic [Is the phone unlocked? The UBports installer works well with Redmi Note 7 in my …], Is it possible to unlock the phone without contacting Xiaomi? I was thinking of getting this phone07:40
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/ZGQfZBPv.png07:42
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @D5h4d0w [Is it possible to unlock the phone without contacting Xiaomi? I was thinking of …], You need to create an account with Xiaomi and then use Xiaomi's unlocker software (Windows only) - https://en.miui.com/unlock/07:42
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> @TotalSonic [You need to create an account with Xiaomi and then use Xiaomi's unlocker softwar …], Yes, I read that, but that's what I'm asking. Is it possible to unlock the phone without doing this? … I don't want to create an account on their site, and I don't use Windows07:44
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @D5h4d0w [Yes, I read that, but that's what I'm asking. Is it possible to unlock the phone …], There are apparently some methods that can be found with an online search (I found a number of them via DuckDuckGo) but I have not tested these - and some of the ones I found seem shady in that it is a third party asking for your IMEI.07:46
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> @D5h4d0w [<reply to media>], When the device is powered off, it won't charge (most phablets are capable of doing this).07:46
ubptgbot<gibcheesepuffs> @D5h4d0w [<reply to media>], charging the phone while it is turned off07:46
ubptgbot<Josele13> @TotalSonic [You need to create an account with Xiaomi and then use Xiaomi's unlocker softwar …], Ok, tthanks 👍, Maybe I'll buy a Xiaomi note 707:47
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> @TotalSonic [There are apparently some methods that can be found with an online search (I fou …], I did too, which is why I asked here, as I can get correct information from people that know a lot about this topic :)07:47
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> @TartanSpartan [When the device is powered off, it won't charge (most phablets are capable of do …], Ahh okay, that's fine for me then07:47
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> @TotalSonic [There are apparently some methods that can be found with an online search (I fou …], Okay, I might get it and get it unlocked by a friend who already has an account there or somebody else. I guess that'd work for me07:48
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Josele13 [Ok, tthanks 👍, Maybe I'll buy a Xiaomi note 7], The Redmi Note 7 is a really nice device, and last I tested ran UT really nicely although with a couple of bugs.  But apparently on devel channel they just fixed a major one (fix for echoing phone calls) but I have not tested this yet (my Redmi Note 7 is currently running Line07:48
ubptgbotage)07:48
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> Btw, does anyone own that device here? If there is a good review of how all the things work on the device, the battery life, etc.. … It'd be good to know in advance07:49
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @D5h4d0w [Btw, does anyone own that device here? If there is a good review of how all the …], Yes, I have it.07:49
ubptgbot<pabbloescobarr> @TotalSonic [Is the phone unlocked? The UBports installer works well with Redmi Note 7 in my …], Well, I untied it from the account, and indeed I left all accounts before the firmware !! I just asked in our Russian-speaking community whether it is necessary to unlock the bootloader! I was told that it is not necessary !! Duck can s07:49
ubptgbottill write a letter to unlock the bootloader in China?)07:49
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @pabbloescobarr [Well, I untied it from the account, and indeed I left all accounts before the fi …], If you wish to install UT on it you must unlock the bootloader first.07:49
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> @TotalSonic [The Redmi Note 7 is a really nice device, and last I tested ran UT really nicely …], Oh nice. I might get it then. It's one of the only cheap, readily available and most feature rich (according to the UBPorts page) device.07:49
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> Sure. Thanks for the info @TotalSonic07:50
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> I just need it unlocked, right? No root required?07:50
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> @Javacookies [also, there's Ubsync for syncing to Nextcloud … not yet available for arm64 though], Ubsync is available for arm64.  I have it working on my Xperia X. … I used this build of it: … https://github.com/belohoub/UBsync/releases/tag/v0.5_multiarch07:51
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @D5h4d0w [I just need it unlocked, right? No root required?], You need to unlock it, and then put it into developer mode, and then enable USB ADB debugging.  After that you should be able to use the UBports installer.07:51
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> @TotalSonic [You need to unlock it, and then put it into developer mode, and then enable USB …], Cool07:51
ubptgbot<pabbloescobarr> @TotalSonic [If you wish to install UT on it you must unlock the bootloader first.], Thank you very much for prompting !!!!!07:51
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @pabbloescobarr [Thank you very much for prompting !!!!!], de nada07:52
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> @gibcheesepuffs [charging the phone while it is turned off], How to charge it if it drains completely?07:52
ubptgbot<Josele13> @TotalSonic [The Redmi Note 7 is a really nice device, and last I tested ran UT really nicely …], I like this phone, the porting is very advanced and being able to use the ubports installer is less complicated when switching to Ut.07:52
ubptgbot<gibcheesepuffs> @D5h4d0w [How to charge it if it drains completely?], good question, avoid that scenario XD07:52
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @wayneTBT [Ubsync is available for arm64.  I have it working on my Xperia X. … I used this b …], oh cool, I thought, starting the service still wasn't working. Thanks07:53
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> Nope, working for me currently.07:53
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> @gibcheesepuffs [good question, avoid that scenario XD], Yikes 😳 I can avoid it yes, but if the battery has issues after some years, other reasons, etc.. I can't imagine how I'll be able to get it to work 😂07:53
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @D5h4d0w [How to charge it if it drains completely?], On the Volla (which has a similar bug preventing offline charging) - you plug it in, and it turns on into Fastboot mode.  After that you can hold the power button one more time and it will boot up.   From there you can charge it up.07:54
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> It's interesting that charging when powered off is dependent on the OS software installed on the device. Manufacturers are really making it difficult for people liking libre software huh?07:54
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> @TotalSonic [On the Volla (which has a similar bug preventing offline charging) - you plug it …], Hmmmm07:54
ubptgbot<D5h4d0w> [Edit] It's interesting that charging when powered off is dependent on the OS software installed on the device. Manufacturers are really making it difficult for people that like libre software huh?07:55
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @D5h4d0w [It's interesting that charging when powered off is dependent on the OS software …], Most UT devices have no problem doing offline charging.  It seems this problem started with a few devices using Halium 9 based ports.07:55
ubptgbot<pabbloescobarr> And tell me you do UT need to install in reboot or fastboot mode ??07:59
ubptgbotRani Ayoubi was added by: Rani Ayoubi08:00
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @pabbloescobarr [And tell me you do UT need to install in reboot or fastboot mode ??], The UBports Installer usually first uses fastboot and then uses recovery mode - but will guide you through the process.08:01
ubptgbot<pabbloescobarr> I just don't wanna mess with my phone !!08:01
ubptgbot<pabbloescobarr> Thank you again !!!! Sorry for my clumsy English! I speak it badly !! Himself from Russia!08:05
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @pabbloescobarr [Thank you again !!!! Sorry for my clumsy English! I speak it badly !! Himself fr …], Your English is WAY better than my Russian.  Best of success with flashing your phone.08:43
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ubptgbot<Flohack> @TartanSpartan [Could someone with a OP3 or OP3T please do a ls /sys/class/power_supply/battery …], Are you working on getting battery stats to work? =)09:05
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ubptgbot<martig_pl> Hi everyone! Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱.10:26
ubptgbot<vince1171> @TartanSpartan [Could someone with a OP3 or OP3T please do a ls /sys/class/power_supply/battery …], Here it is ;) … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NxqQCCd9xk/10:36
ubptgbot<Flohack> @vince1171 [Here it is ;) … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NxqQCCd9xk/], Ok so one thing: Charging information is a problem in recent devices. I found the source for that, its indicator-power trying to guess which battery device to show. Nnote that actual charging state is being read correctly, means the white/green LED status is working. Jus10:50
ubptgbott the indicator will never show small flash for charging, and no stats being recorded in the graph10:50
ubptgbot<Flohack> I will try to make a patch for that soon hopefully10:51
ubptgbot<Rani Ayoubi> Hello, … Greatings everyone, … Would it be possible to install on iPad3, knowing that it is not on the list of supported devices, would there be any work around?11:14
ubptgbot<just_carlod> @Rani Ayoubi [Hello, … Greatings everyone, … Would it be possible to install on iPad3, knowing t …], there's no android for ipad311:17
ubptgbot<just_carlod> neither mainline linux11:17
ubptgbot<just_carlod> so it is not possible11:17
ubptgbot<just_carlod> [Edit] neither mainline linux support11:18
ubptgbot<Rani Ayoubi> In my case would there be anyway to format the ipadl11:18
ubptgbot<Rani Ayoubi> Based on you knowledge11:18
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Rani Ayoubi [In my case would there be anyway to format the ipadl], No, it is not currently possible to install UT on any iOS device.11:28
ubptgbot<Rani Ayoubi> Thank you everyone 😃11:30
ubptgbot<Rani Ayoubi> Honored to meet you11:31
ubptgbotMURGUERO was added by: MURGUERO11:34
ubptgbot<MURGUERO> Greetings/saludos from Germany to everyone ;)11:38
ubptgbot<amyosx> Welcome11:50
ubptgbot<just_carlod> @TotalSonic [No, it is not currently possible to install UT on any iOS device.], iphone.ubports.com lmao11:58
ubptgbot<amyosx> This is possible now11:59
ubptgbot<just_carlod> yeah 😉11:59
ubptgbot<amyosx> Dalton was like why when I said that a couple weeks ago11:59
ubptgbot<amyosx> It'd be slow11:59
ubptgbot<amyosx> Imagine pinephone with extra bugs11:59
ubptgbot<taykkay> umh, any help? I'm trying to restore factory android with ADB on my Nexus 5, everything goes well, I've extracted the .zip file and navigated there, but when I run "sudo ./flash-all.sh" it says: ./flash-all.sh: 17: fastboot: not found … Also 18, 20, 21 and 23... any help?12:36
ubptgbot<taykkay> should I sideload the OTA instead?12:47
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> that is probably easier yes12:48
ubptgbot<TheBakerCat> Does anyone know if the adb should work normally on Santoni?12:53
ubptgbot<taykkay> @Fuseteam [that is probably easier yes], Well it said sideload failed... what should I do?12:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> You need to install fastboot and adb on your PC12:59
ubptgbot<taykkay> @dohbee [You need to install fastboot and adb on your PC], I have, I'm trying to do it through ADB, saying everything is up to date13:00
ubptgbot<taykkay> Ok, now adb sees my device, I'm in recovery, I run ./flash-all.sh    and........ it just says <waiting for any device>. Now what?13:19
ubptgbot<taykkay> adb reboot fastboot just reboots to ubuntu touch13:20
ubptgbot<taykkay> anyone? i'm stuck13:36
ubptgbot<taykkay> someone said I should use a usb 2.0 port, but I only have 3.0 ports13:36
ubptgbot<taykkay> my device is nexus 5 and when I type fastboot ./flash-all.sh it just says "fastboot: usage: unknown command ./flash-all.sh"13:41
ubptgbot<taykkay> sigh...13:42
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @taykkay [Well it said sideload failed... what should I do?], can you be more verbose?13:49
ubptgbot<taykkay> i got it using the hard way: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tutorial-how-to-flash-a-factory-image-return-to-stock-unroot-save-your-nexus-5.2513701/13:58
ubptgbot<dohbee> @taykkay [Ok, now adb sees my device, I'm in recovery, I run ./flash-all.sh    and........ …], yes you must be at bootloader, not recovery14:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> `adb reboot bootloader`14:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> is there someone still on ota-15 here?14:03
ubptgbot<akshithsbalan> Is there a way to remove ubuntu and install android.14:53
ubptgbot<akshithsbalan> Even my bootloader shows ubuntu for me14:54
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> that's the bootsplash, not sure if sideloading the ota image will overwrite that14:55
ubptgbot<Atti> @Braillynn [That's awesome! While I don't use Windows or Mac OS anymore, I know a lot of peo …], Is that world wide? Or only in the US?15:20
ubptgbot<akshithsbalan> Okay15:20
ubptgbot<Atti> @Nicktl [Thanks i'll do that], You look a bit like Mawi from Moana, if you've seen the cartoon 😁15:37
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ubptgbot<Javacookies> something's really weird with `Alt-Tab` which seems to have started with OTA-16 … anyone else who use a physcal keybord? … sometimes `Alt-Tab` just tabs on the current app instead of switching apps16:14
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @Javacookies [something's really weird with Alt-Tab which seems to have started with OTA-16 … an …], You mean that it acts like ctrl+tab instead?16:15
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I don't know what ctrl tab does 😅16:16
ubptgbot<Javacookies> but the normal tabbing, focuses on dfferent elements in the app16:16
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [that's the bootsplash, not sure if sideloading the ota image will overwrite that], no it won't. and sideloading is not how we should talk about going back to android16:18
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Javacookies [but the normal tabbing, focuses on dfferent elements in the app], sounds like the modifier wasn't included in the event16:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> i haven't noticed anything like that in my VM with lomiri16:20
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I feel like that's what's happening16:20
ubptgbot<Javacookies> but it doesn't seem to happen all the time16:20
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I'll try to test and observe more16:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Atti [You look a bit like Mawi from Moana, if you've seen the cartoon 😁], their profile pic is the baby from the 90s animatronic tv show Dinosours16:20
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @D5h4d0w [<reply to media>], that nice battery screen that it boots to when you have it off, or discharge the phone too much16:24
ubptgbot<Shayanrahnejat> Earning money online … The link is in my bio … You can make money with it … Tonight i made 100 rub(1.05 maybe)with it … لینک در آمد زایی تو بیو هستش … اگه روششو خواستید بگید در خدمتم … همین امشب حدود ۱۰۰ روبل حدود ۴۰۰۰۰ تومن در اوردم16:25
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @D5h4d0w [It's interesting that charging when powered off is dependent on the OS software …], i think that part is up to the bootloader, perhaps they messed something in the fastboot stuff16:29
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [no it won't. and sideloading is not how we should talk about going back to andro …], pretty sure sideloading the full ota android image is recommended by google for nexus and pixel devices 👀16:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [pretty sure sideloading the full ota android image is recommended by google for …], that's assuming it already has android on, to use the ota image16:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> if you want to go back from UT you need to use the OEM full image and use the flash all script16:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [if you want to go back from UT you need to use the OEM full image and use the fl …], so this: https://developers.google.com/android/images16:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes16:35
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> which notes its "safer and easier to sideload the full ota image instead"16:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> IF YOU ALREADY HAVE ANDROID ON16:36
ubptgbot<mateosalta> because if you get the wrong boot it is brick16:36
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i see 🤔16:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> you can't sideload anything with the ubports recovery16:36
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i have seen people flash twrp followed by a sideload to recovery from very unusable states in the welcome room so yeah 🤷‍♀️16:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] i have seen people flash twrp followed by a sideload to recover from very unusable states in the welcome room so yeah 🤷‍♀️16:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> anyway, if you have adb and fastboot installed, the full flash script will work fine, on nexus 5, with the occasional problem of perhaps needing to edit it and remove one argument from one of the commands because it will fail to format the cache partition or something like that16:38
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> hmm i see16:39
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> oh look a media mention https://haydenjames.io/85-of-all-smartphones-are-powered-by-linux/16:42
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> hello guys.... quite new to ubuntuTouch, but a  longtime Debian user.... Hope to ask on the right place... because of all that kind of restrictions here in switzerland, I'm searching for three kind of new devices mostly supported by U-Touch I could sell to my customers.... A cheap one, a good one and a not too expensive deluxe-model..17:05
ubptgbot. which ones would you sell to your friends/customers? For the good-one I'm would sell the fairphones, I liked to sell Wiko or the new lenovo/motorola cheap ones and for deluxe something of samsung... but they should be phones I can buy, even I know, the "old"-ones are not that bad, but swiss-people wants only or mostly to buy womething new... any17:05
ubptgbotadvises?17:05
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> in short: advises for 3 kinds of new phones i could buy: a cheap one, a good one, and a deluxe-edition... self-explained, supported to be UTouch-Devices17:06
ubptgbot<dohbee> if you must have new devices, and you have the funding, the best option would be to partner with some manufacturers to produce devices which you will ship with UT on them instead of android; for example like HelloWelt did for Volla phone. You could partner perhaps with pine64, Fairphone, etc… for that.17:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> note that fairphone 2 is not new, and fairphone 3 is not "officially supported" by UT yet afaik17:15
ubptgbotmp3tomicrosd was added by: mp3tomicrosd17:20
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> I already contactet fairphone, its btw a swiss company, but not yet got an answer... I'd like to do the same like HelloWelt, but I guess the funds I could expect to spend will not be enough... I thought to start with 10-20 phones, and then go straight upward... my customers have to get familiar with the os... mostly they are about 50y17:22
ubptgboto and up, the have money to spend, but not not to throw out the window. Years ago I was in shenzen, I know they are pretty cheap in production, but I also know how bad the production controlling are... so I would like to reinstall them myself17:22
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> I use a redmi7 and it works at a glance, but I cannot buy it anymore, instead newer ones, but not sure if I'm able to port them17:23
ubptgbot<mp3tomicrosd> hello guys i have  a product suggestion a ubuntu on a  blackberry id like to able to install ubuntu on a blackberry that for me would be the ultimate phone i do love a keyboard phone just a suggestion i wanted to make keep it up guys its briiliant my nexus works quite well i d love to replace it with a blackberry thanks guys adam😀😀17:23
ubptgbot<mp3tomicrosd> sorry my grammar and typing meh (:17:24
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> welcome @mp3tomicrosd if you are able to unlock the bootloader and find kernel source code you could attempt to bring ubuntu touch to blackberry by following our porting guide17:29
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] welcome @mp3tomicrosd if you are able to unlock the bootloader and find kernel source code you could attempt to bring ubuntu touch to blackberry by following our porting guide linked in the group description17:29
ubptgbotSmoothAsPython was added by: SmoothAsPython17:32
ubptgbot<mp3tomicrosd> il do some research on it id like to consider it a project to work on it because i do think a blackberry ubuntu phone would be totally awesome thanks il do that il see what i can do im not amazing at coding but yeah id like it to be a project the keyboard blackberry ubuntu smartphone17:33
ubptgbot<mp3tomicrosd> thanks for getting back to me17:33
ubptgbot<NotKit> Blackberry devices are unlikely targets since bootloader can't be unlocked on them17:34
ubptgbot<NotKit> the closest alternative in terms of form factor I can think of is Unihertz Titan, but they won't release kernel source code17:35
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Pasquinator [hello guys.... quite new to ubuntuTouch, but a  longtime Debian user.... Hope to …], I'd suggest Xiaomi Redmi Note 7, and perhaps getting in touch with Gigaset for the GS290 if you can not get a good deal as a reseller for Hallo Welt / Volla17:41
ubptgbot<LGeek> What is the difference between halium-devel and devel channel on OPO?17:54
ubptgbot<Nicktl> Dont switch to halium-devel17:55
ubptgbot<Nicktl> It is a newer version of halium but you wont be able to switch back17:56
ubptgbot<dohbee> @LGeek [What is the difference between halium-devel and devel channel on OPO?], halium-devel is for testing halium 7.1 based port; current build is 5.1 based iirc17:57
ubptgbot<LGeek> Thanks, I'll wait to the new helium be stable or on RC17:58
ubptgbot<Ted Rendol> @DD1 [I understand work has to be compensated for but selling this at 360 eur...I dont …], Freedom of choice is always expensive. So free choice for linux os you have to pay dearly. Like a good electric car ;-)  Used devices 5 years old that support linux os are on average 90 eur with or without Ubuntu Touch17:59
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> I thought, I had fear to get that answer, that was my thought too, after 3 days of research... It's a pitty, looking at a Wiko W830, with a "fast" mediatek CPU at the cost of not more than 80€ brandnew in relation of a used 3yo redmi at the same cost...18:04
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> I didn't tried to do a port myself... I will recieve a WIKO 830 (mediatek 6725) this evening and hope to get it ported... what do you think how difficult will it be... I read somewhere that a port is possible on any device that support android10... isn't it?18:06
ubptgbot<NotKit> which Wiko exactly?18:08
ubptgbot<NotKit> does it have kernel source code? (check https://www.wikogeek.com/)18:09
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> view418:09
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> view lite18:10
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> sorry, its a view4 64gb... but as I see, it's a view4 lite18:11
ubptgbot<Ted Rendol> @Pasquinator [I didn't tried to do a port myself... I will recieve a WIKO 830 (mediatek 6725) …], If it is possible to unlock bl. With a lot of time, knowledge and patience the answer is yes.18:11
ubptgbot<NotKit> @Ted Rendol [If it is possible to unlock bl. With a lot of time, knowledge and patience the a …], but also honestly, if you want to try UT, buy a device that is supported18:12
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> so the point of no return will be the bootloader you mean?18:12
ubptgbot<NotKit> I don't see view 4/view4 lite on that website anyway18:13
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> I already installed UT on several devices... I use the redmi7 since a couple of months, and I would never change back, It works really nice, but I cannot buy it anymore as a new device 😞18:14
ubptgbot<Ted Rendol> @Pasquinator [so the point of no return will be the bootloader you mean?], The ability to unlock the bootloader is the first.18:16
ubptgbot<NotKit> out of ongoing Android 10 ports, there are some devices that can be likely bought as new (Redmi Note 8 Pro, Redmi 9, OnePlus Nord N10, Poco M3), but it's still in a pretty early state and not ready for daily use yet18:16
ubptgbot<NotKit> View 4 looks like a possible target, but you need to bother the vendor to provide Linux kernel source code first according to GPLv2 license18:17
ubptgbot<NotKit> [Edit] Wiko View 4 looks like a possible target, but you need to bother the vendor to provide Linux kernel source code first according to GPLv2 license18:17
ubptgbot<NotKit> [Edit] out of ongoing Android 10 ports, there are some devices that can be likely bought as new (Redmi Note 8 Pro, Redmi 9, OnePlus Nord N10, Poco M3/Redmi 9T), but it's still in a pretty early state and not ready for daily use yet18:17
ubptgbot<Ted Rendol> @NotKit [out of ongoing Android 10 ports, there are some devices that can be likely bough …], Good information but for them we have to wait or become a developer and help;)18:21
ubptgbot<Pasquinator> I guess I'll try it from the y81 source and the view5.... ill open a new repo, and try to port the view4.... I guess it the most affordable phone for a really good price, fast enough and a good battery.... will post infos as soon as I can go forward18:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> @D5h4d0w [Yikes 😳 I can avoid it yes, but if the battery has issues after some years, oth …], The phone will still charge in that situation. Describing it as "no charging support when the phone is off" is a bit wrong. The problem is that the phone cannot remain in powered off state during charging, in this case. The phone will try to boot19:04
ubptgbot, and if the charge is not enough it may not succeed to boot until there is enough charge, so it will have a bootloop type experience in that case, until it can boot successfully.19:04
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ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/zEuhqO4d.jpeg20:54
ubptgbot<C0n57an71n> Hi! Had anybody from you noticed a slightly decrease in Nexus's 5 performance after the OTA-16 update?20:56
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Vfn0ijJA.jpeg20:56
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Steve Kueffer [<reply to media>], no idea. i can load an ods file just fine in my vm with latest docviewer20:57
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> Oh... Is .ods different than .odt perhaps? (but worked well on OTA 15)20:58
ubptgbot<dohbee> ods is a spreadsheet20:58
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/aJ0kw4K1.ods21:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> huh21:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> it also loads in my vm21:03
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> Let me try with my spouse's Vollaphone...21:03
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> 1rst try with Vollaphone OTA-16 stable: App crashed when opening the above document (app has been well updated). Restarting device and will try again: Failed. App crashes (LibreOffice Logo 2 seconds, than it closes automatically)21:07
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> Both devices got the 2.3.541 installed version21:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> 564 is latest21:10
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> Idem by Lionel Duboeuf and Juansé21:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> https://open-store.io/app/com.ubuntu.docviewer21:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> hmm, looks like arm64 build didn't publish though21:11
ubptgbot<matv1> Its the same for .odt and docx21:12
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> Interesting...21:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> @matv1 [Its the same for .odt and docx], yes they all use the same plugin21:12
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> Maybe Lionel can provide you logs and further informations...(?)21:13
ubptgbot<dohbee> you should have 564 on nexus 5, yes?21:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> if not it still needs to update21:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> though if not, i'm surprised it didn't crash21:14
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/ZLWc55rC.png21:15
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> Well, openstore says I've got the latest version...21:15
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> @dohbee [you should have 564 on nexus 5, yes?], Correct...21:17
ubptgbot<dohbee> ok, if someone can get logs for a new issue then21:17
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> @dohbee [you should have 564 on nexus 5, yes?], On Vollaphone it's still the 2.3.54121:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Steve Kueffer [On Vollaphone it's still the 2.3.541], yes there was a problem with building the arm64 version21:20
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> @dohbee [ok, if someone can get logs for a new issue then], Done: https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/docviewer-app/-/issues/56 … Many Thanks21:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Steve Kueffer [Done: https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/docviewer-app/-/issues/56 … Many Thanks], can you try https://gitlab.com/dobey/docviewer-app/-/jobs/1118823711/artifacts/raw/build/arm-linux-gnueabihf/app/com.ubuntu.docviewer_2.3.564_armhf.click please?22:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> (that's armhf one, you can find arm64 under same pipeline)22:10
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/YV7t3YTY.png22:17
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> @dohbee [can you try https://gitlab.com/dobey/docviewer-app/-/jobs/1118823711/artifacts/r …], Awesome! It works! Even if there's a special coloured frame (see picture). Thanks so much!22:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> hmm22:19
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> Same with .docx file22:20
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> .ods file are perfect, no frame...22:21
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> .pdf work fine also.22:22
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> Anyway, Thank you so much Rodney! (It's a needed feature for my work...)22:23
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Pasquinator [I already contactet fairphone, its btw a swiss company, but not yet got an answe …], Its not a Swiss company its from the Netherlands... See https://www.fairphone.com/de/legal/impressum/?ref=footer23:02
ubptgbot<IdahoPhotoist> (Natural News) Hidden inside Microsoft’s Windows 10 operating system software is a keylogger spyware module that records the keystrokes and voices of users and sends this private data straight to the mother ship. … Another creepy “feature” of a software platform that was originally designed by billionaire eugenicist Bill Gates, the23:36
ubptgbotWindows 10 keylogger add-on was supposedly “intended for testing, not day-to-day use.” And yet the latter is what it became, though most users have no idea that it exists. … Microsoft reluctantly admitted when pressed that “we may collect voice information” and “typed characters” from users without their knowledge or expressed consent. We now know23:36
ubptgbotthat the Washington-based corporation is doing precisely that. … “I said that ‘I seriously doubt that the worst spyware features will remain in the finished product,'” wrote PC World contributing editor Lincoln Spector. “I was wrong.” … The Windows 10 “speech, inking, typing, and privacy FAQ” section admits that when a user interacts with a Windows23:36
ubptgbot device by “speaking, writing (handwriting), or typing, Microsoft collects speech, inking, and typing information – including information about your Calendar and People (also known as contacts) …” … Microsoft’s Privacy Statement reiterates this, though it contains all sorts of other information in the form of 17,000 words that requires some extra t23:36
ubptgbotime and effort to fully peruse. … More related news about the tech invasion of personal privacy can be found at Surveillance.news. … Microsoft is guilty of committing treason with communist China … The good news is that the Windows 10 keylogging function can be disabled, or so it would appear. Clicking Settings on the Start menu’s left pane, follow23:36
ubptgboted by clicking the Privacy button, a Windows 10 user will find a selection box to turn it off – all the way at the bottom, of course. … “Once in Privacy, go to the General section and Turn off Send Microsoft info about how I write to help us improve typing and writing in the future,” Spector explains. … “While you’re there, examine the other option23:36
ubptgbots and consider if there’s anything else here that you may want to change.” … To stop Windows 10 from collecting your speech, you must also go to the Speech, inking and typing section and click Stop getting to know me. This same area contains options for restricting Microsoft from collecting data from your camera, microphone, contacts and calendar.23:36
ubptgbot… “I wish I had that capability in Android,” Spector notes, suggesting that smartphones are prone to similar spying without the option to disable it. … It is important to note that Microsoft is a close ally of communist China, having worked with Huawei, the communist Chinese corporation that President Donald Trump banned from the United States thro23:36
ubptgbotugh an executive order. … As we reported, Huawei works closely with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) to spy on people through technology and artificial intelligence (AI). The company is also under investigation, or was, for its participation in the Iran nuclear arms agreement. … Microsoft temporarily ceased its partnership with Huawei after Trump’23:36
ubptgbots executive order was signed, however the company later decided to continue selling its existing inventory of Huawei laptop computers at Microsoft stores. … The official Microsoft website proclaims with pride that the company deeply values its partnership with communist China and various communist Chinese corporations. … CREEPY Bill Gates strikes a23:36
ubptgbotgain: Windows 10 secretly listens to everything you s... … Hidden inside Microsoft's Windows 10 operating system software is a keylogger spyware module that records the keystrokes and voices of users and sends... … [Photo] … “Today, our most complete subsidiary and largest R&D center outside the United States is in China,” the website explains. “Mi23:36
ubptgbotcrosoft boasts a robust partner ecosystem with 17,000 partners. For every RMB that Microsoft earns in China, Microsoft partners earn 16.” … Microsoft has also boasted that it is one of the major corporations responsible for “remaking the Chinese economy.” Meanwhile, Microsoft is quietly23:36
ubptgbot<IdahoPhotoist> implementing spying technologies like this that would make even the most radical Chinese communist blush with envy. … Sources for this article include: … PCWorld.com … NaturalNews.com … I think you said that one of your computers had Win 10 on it?  I guess you should go in and disable that spyware and if you work on a Windows comput23:36
ubptgboter for someone, you should tell them about it and ask if they want it disabled?  I think Gates should be sued!23:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> such off topic spam is not appreciated here @IdahoPhotoist23:47
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> @Flohack [Are you working on getting battery stats to work? =)], Yessir, but for the Volla instead.23:55

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