[02:09] <callmepk> good morning
[02:31] <duflu> Morning callmepk 
[02:31] <callmepk> morning duflu 
[06:39] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:47] <duflu> Morning seb128 
[06:59] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:01] <jibel> Good morning all
[07:09] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN and jibel 
[07:10] <oSoMoN> salut jibel 
[07:10] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[07:16] <callmepk> good morning seb128 oSoMoN jibel 
[07:16] <jibel> Good morning duflu oSoMoN callmepk 
[07:16] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk 
[07:40] <seb128> hey duflu oSoMoN jibel callmepk ricotz, how are you?
[07:48] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center tags 8b9655e Sebastien Bacher upstream/3.38.5 * Upstream version 3.38.5 * https://deb.li/dOBC
[07:48] <duflu> seb128, it is a good day. Finally fixed the graphics corruption on Pi
[07:48] <duflu> How are you seb128?
[07:48] <seb128> I'm alright, had a better night!
[07:48] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x 72bece0 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 20 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/35VY7
[07:49] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x 0b7d9c7 treysis panels/network/ (7 files in 2 dirs) * network: Show DNS6 parameters in details and connection editor * https://deb.li/PVn0
[07:49] <seb128> nice to read you fixed the Pi
[07:49] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x d93bfc1 Balázs Úr po/hu.po * Update Hungarian translation * https://deb.li/3cOf2
[07:49] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x cbe549e Daniel Mustieles po/es.po * Updated Spanish translation * https://deb.li/nXti
[07:49] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x cc75f07 Daniel Șerbănescu po/ro.po * Update Romanian translation * https://deb.li/3pF3c
[07:49] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x f1917c5 Yuri Chornoivan po/uk.po * Update Ukrainian translation * https://deb.li/iQVJy
[07:49] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center pristine-tar 56afc28 Sebastien Bacher gnome-control-center_3.38.5.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-control-center_3.38.5.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-control-center_3.38.5.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/iwZBh
[07:51] <duflu> seb128, would you be able to look at sponsoring bug 1918874 by chance?
[07:52] <seb128> duflu, k, I will talkj to Trevinho to see if he wants to handle it or has an upload planned and if he doesn't I will try to get that uploaded for you
[07:53] <duflu> seb128, thanks
[07:53] <seb128> np!
[07:54] <duflu> Trevinho, if you do an upload then could you please have a look at including some of these (particularly the Nvidia one)? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bugs?field.tag=fixed-in-40
[07:55] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center signed tags 9290f93 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.38.5-1ubuntu1 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.38.5-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/hqv4
[07:55] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master c01c6ac Sebastien Bacher * pushed 25 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3Sg7D
[07:55] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master eca72e9 Charles Monzat po/fr.po * Update French translation * https://deb.li/xOss
[07:55] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master eb46d19 Piotr Drąg po/pl.po * Update Polish translation * https://deb.li/3lcrU
[07:55] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 85c5e6c Luna Jernberg po/sv.po * Update Swedish translation * https://deb.li/9FUn
[07:55] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master eab35d6 Matej Urbančič po/sl.po * Update Slovenian translation * https://deb.li/oanj
[07:55] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master a9f1f62 Rafael Fontenelle po/pt_BR.po * Update Brazilian Portuguese translation * https://deb.li/igjdR
[08:24] <RikMills> doko: I see that you have been fixing symbols due to LTO. presumably that mean these fails are not to be added to the lto-disabled list?
[08:25] <RikMills> I would think not anyway, but just checking
[08:26] <seb128> we shouldn't be spending time on such transitions that late in the cycle :-/
[08:28] <RikMills> opps. sorry. that was meant to be in #ubuntu-devel
[08:29] <seb128> RikMills, hey btw, and no worry :)
[08:29] <seb128> my side comment would have been the same on the other channel :
[08:29] <seb128> :p
[08:29] <RikMills> I agree though. Fixing bugs is onerous enough now, without surprise fails from this
[08:31] <RikMills> oh, and morning all :)
[08:40] <Nafallo> morning
[08:40] <ricotz> good morning
[08:42] <Nafallo> hmmm. I'll try to convert it to that. another coffee I think... :-P
[08:43] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk duflu seb128 oSoMoN jibel RikMills Nafallo ricotz
[08:44] <duflu> Hi Nafallo, ricotz, marcustomlinson 
[08:44] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, how are you?
[08:46] <marcustomlinson> seb128: doing well thanks, you?
[08:49] <seb128> marcustomlinson, I'm alright thanks!
[08:53] <RikMills> ricotz: congrats on the PPU :)
[09:04] <Laney> yo
[09:06] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:08] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[09:10] <duflu> Hi Laney
[09:11] <Laney> hey seb128 marcustomlinson duflu 
[09:12] <Laney> doing alright!
[09:12] <Laney> how's it going there?
[09:12] <Laney> i'm battling with the squirrels still
[09:12] <Laney> they keep discovering how to access the bird food I am putting out
[09:12] <Laney> so every day I add a new thing to try to stop that, then they find another way
[09:13] <Laney> repeat
[09:13] <duflu> They're motivated. Finding food is kind of what they live for
[09:13] <Laney> I have hope I will win in the end :p
[09:14] <Laney> they can jump much further than I imagined to be possible though ...
[09:14] <Laney> and grip onto small targets at the end of it
[09:15] <RikMills> sounds like the blackbirds here. every morning they fling the woodbark all over the paths looking for food. getting quite annoying having to go sweep it back
[09:15] <Laney> heh
[09:16] <Laney> I'd love that!
[09:16] <Laney> yesterday we did manage to get a blackcap to come in which was cool to see
[09:16] <RikMills> It gets old quickly ;)
[09:17] <RikMills> but I get your point
[09:17] <seb128> Laney, one possible solution is to put food for the squirrels so they do go steal the one from the birds :p
[09:18] <Laney> heh
[09:19] <Laney> that's better than the one I thought about, getting an air rifle :p
[09:19] <seb128> lol
[09:19] <Laney> RikMills: you should put better food out though, then they would go there rather than ruining your path :>
[09:19] <Laney> where are you based btw?
[09:20] <RikMills> Gloucestershire
[09:20]  * Laney nod
[09:20] <Laney> thought it was UK
[09:21] <marcustomlinson> Laney: https://youtu.be/hFZFjoX2cGg
[09:22] <Laney> out of everyone
[09:22] <Laney> I'm usually most wary of clicking marcustomlinson links
[09:22] <marcustomlinson> 😂
[09:22] <Laney> hahaha
[09:22] <Laney> yesss this is where i'll end up
[09:41] <sil2100> seb128: ...in case you're wondering why there are no new canary images - forgot to switch it in the official crontab! Doing it now and kicking off a manual image build
[09:41] <sil2100> Sorry about that o/
[10:32] <Nafallo> Laney: another option might be to get cats ;-)
[10:33] <Nafallo> it all comes down to food in the end :-P
[10:40] <Laney> heh
[10:40] <Laney> you mean they don't love me for me?!?!?!
[10:40] <seb128> sil2100, thanks and no worry
[11:47] <seb128> ricotz, congrats on  getting the libreoffice ppu rights!
[12:05] <ricotz> RikMills, seb128 thank you
[12:19] <oSoMoN> I'm late to the party, congratulations ricotz !
[12:20] <Trevinho> seb128: on mutter and shell I do have it planned, but since I was there I wanted to release the .4 new point release. End of last week salsa has been down a bit so got blocked and then decided I wanted to first address the eprivacy. But mutter / shell is planed for this week 
[12:26] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128, my latest mozc upload should make it possible to drop the tegaki-zinnia-japanese package from main and the ISO. Will that happen automatically, or is some action needed?
[13:32] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[13:32] <jibel> Good morning hellsworth 
[13:32] <hellsworth> hi there jibel 
[13:36]  * oSoMoN waves at hellsworth with an espresso
[13:36]  * hellsworth waves back witha  cup of tea!
[13:36] <kenvandine> i want an espresso
[13:36] <kenvandine> ignore me though, i am not here :)
[13:37] <oSoMoN> that's what I thought :)
[13:37] <hellsworth> where's ken's voice coming from though :)
[13:37] <kenvandine> from behind my pathetic cup of coffee... would love an espresso right now :)
[13:39] <hellsworth> :)
[13:39] <hellsworth> hey ricotz congrats on your PPU!
[13:51] <Nafallo> afternoon hellsworth :-)
[14:10] <luna> good afternoon o/ are we still having Tuesday meetings?
[14:22] <marcustomlinson> luna: not sure if we’ll have one today as we’re a few people short
[14:22] <luna> marcustomlinson: oh alright will stick around for 10-15 minutes more and see 
[14:32] <oSoMoN> we're a few people short indeed, let's do a quick one
[14:34] <oSoMoN> #startmeeting weekly meeting 2021-03-23
[14:34] <meetingology> Meeting started at 14:34:05 UTC.  The chair is oSoMoN.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
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[14:34] <oSoMoN> roll call: everyone available now :) (don't have a list handy)
[14:34] <luna> o/
[14:35] <Nafallo> hi! :-)
[14:35] <oSoMoN> #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:36] <luna> no desktop entry
[14:36] <oSoMoN> no desktop bugs there
[14:36] <oSoMoN> #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:36] <oSoMoN> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1915003
[14:37] <oSoMoN> looks like it should be assigned to Alberto
[14:37] <oSoMoN> doing that now
[14:37] <luna> Show Extended Security Maintenence status: software-properties
[14:37] <luna> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1920836
[14:38] <oSoMoN> it should be assigned to Robert I think
[14:39] <luna> those where the two unassigned there
[14:39] <oSoMoN> done
[14:39] <oSoMoN> #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:39] <oSoMoN> no desktop entries
[14:39] <oSoMoN> #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:40] <oSoMoN> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1886092
[14:41] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, that one was unassigned, but it's still tracking focal, is that intentional?
[14:42] <oSoMoN> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/geoclue-2.0/+bug/1890924 needs a new assignee, anyone interested in looking into it?
[14:42] <luna> i think seb128 was looking at it, but i can be wrong
[14:43] <oSoMoN> he commented that the proposed fix didn't work, and he doesn't have time to look into it again
[14:43] <Nafallo> he doesn't have the cycles, so backed off again.
[14:43] <oSoMoN> hence the call for a new assignee
[14:43] <luna> oh alright
[14:44] <oSoMoN> let's leave it as is if no one steps up for now
[14:44] <oSoMoN> I assigned myself to bug #1916881
[14:45] <oSoMoN> there's a bunch of unassigned bugs that are marked "fix committed", they should probably have an assignee, but let's not waste time on this now
[14:45] <oSoMoN> #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:45] <oSoMoN> all clear
[14:45] <oSoMoN> #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:46] <oSoMoN> all good
[14:46] <oSoMoN> #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:46] <oSoMoN> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1821415
[14:48] <oSoMoN> back in 2019 it was reviewed and deemed not important enough to assign desktop team resources to fixing it
[14:48] <oSoMoN> we might need to revisit that decision, but I don't think we have the relevant people to make that call now
[14:48] <luna> talk about it during next meeting maybe?
[14:48] <oSoMoN> yeah
[14:49] <oSoMoN> #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:49] <oSoMoN> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1920665
[14:49] <luna> and same Extended Security thing
[14:50] <luna> sounds like someone for some Kubuntu people to look at
[14:51] <oSoMoN> this didn't go through the usual nomination process
[14:51] <oSoMoN> it should have an assignee
[14:51] <oSoMoN> especially for a critical issue
[14:53] <oSoMoN> RikMills, is anyone actively looking at bug #1920665 ?
[14:53] <Nafallo> hmm. sounds like mesa...
[14:53] <RikMills> oSoMoN: it only needs ubiquity rebuilt
[14:54] <oSoMoN> ah, just saw that in comment #4
[14:54] <oSoMoN> so, just a no-change rebuild?
[14:54] <oSoMoN> if so, I can handle it
[14:54] <RikMills> seemed to work in my PPA
[14:54] <RikMills> thanks
[14:54] <oSoMoN> let's continue discussing it after the meeting
[14:54] <RikMills> ok
[14:55] <oSoMoN> #topic https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[14:55] <luna> for Firefox 87 got released yesterday, so better built that instead 
[14:55] <luna> ?
[14:55] <luna> and Thunderbird is getting a new version later today 
[14:55] <oSoMoN> thunderbird and firefox are blocked on s390x build failures caused by rustc, x_nox is looking after that
[14:56] <oSoMoN> luna, I'm working on the firefox update separately
[14:56] <luna> alright perfect :)
[14:56] <luna> New Thunderbird too later tonight at around 6-7pm Swedish time atleast
[14:56] <oSoMoN> evolution-data-server has build failures that need looking into
[14:56] <oSoMoN> I'll take a look
[14:57] <oSoMoN> everything else looks alright
[14:57] <luna> think there is a new GNOME 3 later tonight aswell and GNOME 40 tommorow evening 
[14:57] <luna> but as Ubuntu is still on GNOME 3.x 
[14:58] <luna> 3.38.5.1
[14:58] <oSoMoN> see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop3/3.38.5-1ubuntu1
[14:59] <luna> ah perfect
[14:59] <oSoMoN> #topic AOB
[14:59] <oSoMoN> anything else worth discussing here and now?
[14:59] <luna> the Hirsute Daily Images that comes on Thursday evening will have the last GNOME 3 to try out, but other then that nope
[14:59] <luna> not from me
[15:01] <oSoMoN> thanks luna for your feedback, I'm not under the impression that I had a meeting with just myself :)
[15:01] <Laney> thanks oSoMoN!
[15:01] <Laney> my other meeting just finished :p
[15:01] <oSoMoN> hey ho Laney 
[15:01] <oSoMoN> did I overlook anything important?
[15:01] <oSoMoN> (not used to driving these meetings)
[15:01] <luna> np oSoMoN, hey Laney and Nafallo and RikMills too
[15:01] <Laney> looks good to me
[15:02] <oSoMoN> ok, let's wrap then
[15:02] <oSoMoN> thanks everyone
[15:02] <oSoMoN> #endmeeting
[15:02] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:02:11 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2021/ubuntu-desktop.2021-03-23-14.34.moin.txt
[15:02] <luna> no problem, cya all next week again :) 
[15:02] <Nafallo> thanks guys :-)
[15:02] <Nafallo> I've got this meeting in my work calendar again, so I believe people will see me blocked this half hour ;-)
[15:03] <Laney> we've been talking in the team about changing it up a bit maybe
[15:03] <Laney> so you might see it disappear in this format
[15:04] <Nafallo> forums again? ;-)
[15:04] <Laney> that's just a teaser, wait for an announcement
[15:04] <Laney> :p
[15:04] <luna> gonne go to the store and buy something to eat then listen to the GNOME 40 Special of Destination Linux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkQeapb61XU 
[15:04] <Nafallo> haha
[15:04] <luna> cya around Ubuntu Desktoppers
[15:05] <oSoMoN> RikMills, back to bug #1920665, it's unclear to me from the comments that the no-change rebuild was tested/confirmed to fix the crash in all scenarios
[15:08] <RikMills> oSoMoN: actually I was just setting up now to test the only alternative case I can. i.e. laptop booting in safe graphics mode
[15:09] <marcustomlinson> thanks oSoMoN!
[15:09] <oSoMoN> RikMills, ack, please keep me updated with the results
[15:09] <oSoMoN> also, would you mind assigning the bug to yourself?
[15:09] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hellsworth thanks :)
[15:16] <oSoMoN> seb128, the evolution-data-server build failures are caused by symbols, looking at that now
[15:25] <RikMills> oSoMoN: a no-change build worked with Sunday's ISO, but not todays
[15:25] <RikMills> :(
[15:25] <oSoMoN> ok, so that was a red herring
[15:26] <RikMills> I was struggling to see how it might work, I admit
[15:32] <oSoMoN> mmm, those missing symbols in evolution-data-server are from another lib (libphonenumber), that doesn't look right, what are they doing here in the first place
[15:44] <RikMills> oSoMoN: however, I am reasonably certain that the update bisection was valid, and new mesa triggered things
[15:44] <RikMills> where a solution might be, I have no clue
[16:40] <hellsworth> oSoMoN: sorry i was unable to be at the meeting but thanks for catching https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1886092. I have assigned it to Rico now.
[16:40] <hellsworth> congrats ricotz you win a bug :)
[16:41] <oSoMoN> thanks
[16:41] <oSoMoN> seb128, this seems to do the trick (for evolution-data-server): https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s59w2gq38p/
[16:43] <Laney> GunnarHj: yo
[16:43] <Laney> I retried that test and it passed
[16:44] <Laney> one thing I did was look back in the history to see if it had happened before, and it had
[16:44] <Laney> so seems it is somewhat flaky
[17:13] <GunnarHj> Laney: I see, thanks. I suppose those chown() errors don't matter, but some day someone may still want to fix them. ;)
[17:14] <Laney> presumably the user isn't created in the environment the test is run in
[17:14] <Laney> I guess a motivated contributor could look into that ;-)
[17:15] <GunnarHj> Yeah..
[18:41] <seb128> missed Olivier, but e-d-s built fine in Debian and had built fine with no code change on the rc
[18:41] <seb128> side effect of the lto enablement?
[18:42] <seb128> doko, ^ any toolchain recent change that could explain why that change is needed now? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s59w2gq38p/