[02:09] good morning [02:31] Morning callmepk [02:31] morning duflu [06:39] goood morning desktopers [06:47] Morning seb128 [06:59] good morning desktoppers [07:01] Good morning all [07:09] Hi oSoMoN and jibel [07:10] salut jibel [07:10] hey duflu [07:16] good morning seb128 oSoMoN jibel [07:16] Good morning duflu oSoMoN callmepk [07:16] hey callmepk [07:40] hey duflu oSoMoN jibel callmepk ricotz, how are you? [07:48] gnome-control-center tags 8b9655e Sebastien Bacher upstream/3.38.5 * Upstream version 3.38.5 * https://deb.li/dOBC [07:48] seb128, it is a good day. Finally fixed the graphics corruption on Pi [07:48] How are you seb128? [07:48] I'm alright, had a better night! [07:48] gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x 72bece0 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 20 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/35VY7 [07:49] gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x 0b7d9c7 treysis panels/network/ (7 files in 2 dirs) * network: Show DNS6 parameters in details and connection editor * https://deb.li/PVn0 [07:49] nice to read you fixed the Pi [07:49] gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x d93bfc1 Balázs Úr po/hu.po * Update Hungarian translation * https://deb.li/3cOf2 [07:49] gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x cbe549e Daniel Mustieles po/es.po * Updated Spanish translation * https://deb.li/nXti [07:49] gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x cc75f07 Daniel Șerbănescu po/ro.po * Update Romanian translation * https://deb.li/3pF3c [07:49] gnome-control-center upstream/3.38.x f1917c5 Yuri Chornoivan po/uk.po * Update Ukrainian translation * https://deb.li/iQVJy [07:49] gnome-control-center pristine-tar 56afc28 Sebastien Bacher gnome-control-center_3.38.5.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-control-center_3.38.5.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-control-center_3.38.5.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/iwZBh [07:51] seb128, would you be able to look at sponsoring bug 1918874 by chance? [07:51] bug 1918874 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression] Application windows appear over the icon grid when Ubuntu Dock or Dash To Dock is loaded" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1918874 [07:52] duflu, k, I will talkj to Trevinho to see if he wants to handle it or has an upload planned and if he doesn't I will try to get that uploaded for you [07:53] seb128, thanks [07:53] np! [07:54] Trevinho, if you do an upload then could you please have a look at including some of these (particularly the Nvidia one)? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bugs?field.tag=fixed-in-40 [07:55] gnome-control-center signed tags 9290f93 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.38.5-1ubuntu1 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.38.5-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/hqv4 [07:55] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master c01c6ac Sebastien Bacher * pushed 25 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3Sg7D [07:55] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master eca72e9 Charles Monzat po/fr.po * Update French translation * https://deb.li/xOss [07:55] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master eb46d19 Piotr Drąg po/pl.po * Update Polish translation * https://deb.li/3lcrU [07:55] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 85c5e6c Luna Jernberg po/sv.po * Update Swedish translation * https://deb.li/9FUn [07:55] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master eab35d6 Matej Urbančič po/sl.po * Update Slovenian translation * https://deb.li/oanj [07:55] gnome-control-center ubuntu/master a9f1f62 Rafael Fontenelle po/pt_BR.po * Update Brazilian Portuguese translation * https://deb.li/igjdR [08:24] doko: I see that you have been fixing symbols due to LTO. presumably that mean these fails are not to be added to the lto-disabled list? [08:25] I would think not anyway, but just checking [08:26] we shouldn't be spending time on such transitions that late in the cycle :-/ [08:28] opps. sorry. that was meant to be in #ubuntu-devel [08:29] RikMills, hey btw, and no worry :) [08:29] my side comment would have been the same on the other channel : [08:29] :p [08:29] I agree though. Fixing bugs is onerous enough now, without surprise fails from this [08:31] oh, and morning all :) [08:40] morning [08:40] good morning [08:42] hmmm. I'll try to convert it to that. another coffee I think... :-P [08:43] morning callmepk duflu seb128 oSoMoN jibel RikMills Nafallo ricotz [08:44] Hi Nafallo, ricotz, marcustomlinson [08:44] hey marcustomlinson, how are you? [08:46] seb128: doing well thanks, you? [08:49] marcustomlinson, I'm alright thanks! [08:53] ricotz: congrats on the PPU :) [09:04] yo [09:06] hey Laney, how are you? [09:08] hey Laney [09:10] Hi Laney [09:11] hey seb128 marcustomlinson duflu [09:12] doing alright! [09:12] how's it going there? [09:12] i'm battling with the squirrels still [09:12] they keep discovering how to access the bird food I am putting out [09:12] so every day I add a new thing to try to stop that, then they find another way [09:13] repeat [09:13] They're motivated. Finding food is kind of what they live for [09:13] I have hope I will win in the end :p [09:14] they can jump much further than I imagined to be possible though ... [09:14] and grip onto small targets at the end of it [09:15] sounds like the blackbirds here. every morning they fling the woodbark all over the paths looking for food. getting quite annoying having to go sweep it back [09:15] heh [09:16] I'd love that! [09:16] yesterday we did manage to get a blackcap to come in which was cool to see [09:16] It gets old quickly ;) [09:17] but I get your point [09:17] Laney, one possible solution is to put food for the squirrels so they do go steal the one from the birds :p [09:18] heh [09:19] that's better than the one I thought about, getting an air rifle :p [09:19] lol [09:19] RikMills: you should put better food out though, then they would go there rather than ruining your path :> [09:19] where are you based btw? [09:20] Gloucestershire [09:20] * Laney nod [09:20] thought it was UK [09:21] Laney: https://youtu.be/hFZFjoX2cGg [09:22] out of everyone [09:22] I'm usually most wary of clicking marcustomlinson links [09:22] 😂 [09:22] hahaha [09:22] yesss this is where i'll end up [09:41] seb128: ...in case you're wondering why there are no new canary images - forgot to switch it in the official crontab! Doing it now and kicking off a manual image build [09:41] Sorry about that o/ [10:32] Laney: another option might be to get cats ;-) [10:33] it all comes down to food in the end :-P [10:40] heh [10:40] you mean they don't love me for me?!?!?! [10:40] sil2100, thanks and no worry [11:47] ricotz, congrats on getting the libreoffice ppu rights! [12:05] RikMills, seb128 thank you [12:19] I'm late to the party, congratulations ricotz ! [12:20] seb128: on mutter and shell I do have it planned, but since I was there I wanted to release the .4 new point release. End of last week salsa has been down a bit so got blocked and then decided I wanted to first address the eprivacy. But mutter / shell is planed for this week [12:26] Hi seb128, my latest mozc upload should make it possible to drop the tegaki-zinnia-japanese package from main and the ISO. Will that happen automatically, or is some action needed? [13:32] good morning desktopers [13:32] Good morning hellsworth [13:32] hi there jibel [13:36] * oSoMoN waves at hellsworth with an espresso [13:36] * hellsworth waves back witha cup of tea! [13:36] i want an espresso [13:36] ignore me though, i am not here :) [13:37] that's what I thought :) [13:37] where's ken's voice coming from though :) [13:37] from behind my pathetic cup of coffee... would love an espresso right now :) [13:39] :) [13:39] hey ricotz congrats on your PPU! [13:51] afternoon hellsworth :-) [14:10] good afternoon o/ are we still having Tuesday meetings? [14:22] luna: not sure if we’ll have one today as we’re a few people short [14:22] marcustomlinson: oh alright will stick around for 10-15 minutes more and see [14:32] we're a few people short indeed, let's do a quick one [14:34] #startmeeting weekly meeting 2021-03-23 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | weekly meeting 2021-03-23 | Current topic: [14:34] Meeting started at 14:34:05 UTC. The chair is oSoMoN. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [14:34] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [14:34] roll call: everyone available now :) (don't have a list handy) [14:34] o/ [14:35] hi! :-) [14:35] #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | weekly meeting 2021-03-23 | Current topic: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html [14:36] no desktop entry [14:36] no desktop bugs there [14:36] #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | weekly meeting 2021-03-23 | Current topic: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:36] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1915003 [14:36] Ubuntu bug 1915003 in OEM Priority Project "SRU: Always update the initramfs when changing power profile" [Critical,Triaged] [14:37] looks like it should be assigned to Alberto [14:37] doing that now [14:37] Show Extended Security Maintenence status: software-properties [14:37] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1920836 [14:37] Ubuntu bug 1920836 in software-properties (Ubuntu Hirsute) "Show Extended Security Maintenence status" [Undecided,New] [14:38] it should be assigned to Robert I think [14:39] those where the two unassigned there [14:39] done [14:39] #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | weekly meeting 2021-03-23 | Current topic: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html [14:39] no desktop entries [14:39] #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | weekly meeting 2021-03-23 | Current topic: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:40] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1886092 [14:40] Ubuntu bug 1886092 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Focal) "libreoffice doesn't list gpg private key for a digital signature due to apparmor" [Low,Confirmed] [14:41] hellsworth, that one was unassigned, but it's still tracking focal, is that intentional? [14:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/geoclue-2.0/+bug/1890924 needs a new assignee, anyone interested in looking into it? [14:42] Ubuntu bug 1890924 in geoclue-2.0 (Ubuntu Focal) "Location services work with location services off, 20.04" [High,Triaged] [14:42] i think seb128 was looking at it, but i can be wrong [14:43] he commented that the proposed fix didn't work, and he doesn't have time to look into it again [14:43] he doesn't have the cycles, so backed off again. [14:43] hence the call for a new assignee [14:43] oh alright [14:44] let's leave it as is if no one steps up for now [14:44] I assigned myself to bug #1916881 [14:44] bug 1916881 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Thunderbird unable to access external pgp keys" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1916881 [14:45] there's a bunch of unassigned bugs that are marked "fix committed", they should probably have an assignee, but let's not waste time on this now [14:45] #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | weekly meeting 2021-03-23 | Current topic: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html [14:45] all clear [14:45] #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | weekly meeting 2021-03-23 | Current topic: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:46] all good [14:46] #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | weekly meeting 2021-03-23 | Current topic: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html [14:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1821415 [14:46] Ubuntu bug 1821415 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) "pkexec fails in a non-graphical environment" [Low,Triaged] [14:48] back in 2019 it was reviewed and deemed not important enough to assign desktop team resources to fixing it [14:48] we might need to revisit that decision, but I don't think we have the relevant people to make that call now [14:48] talk about it during next meeting maybe? [14:48] yeah [14:49] #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | weekly meeting 2021-03-23 | Current topic: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1920665 [14:49] Ubuntu bug 1920665 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Hirsute) "Ubiquity KDE crash on try/install and from live session with "malloc(): unaligned tcache chunk detected"" [Critical,Confirmed] [14:49] and same Extended Security thing [14:50] sounds like someone for some Kubuntu people to look at [14:51] this didn't go through the usual nomination process [14:51] it should have an assignee [14:51] especially for a critical issue [14:53] RikMills, is anyone actively looking at bug #1920665 ? [14:53] bug 1920665 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Hirsute) "Ubiquity KDE crash on try/install and from live session with "malloc(): unaligned tcache chunk detected"" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1920665 [14:53] hmm. sounds like mesa... [14:53] oSoMoN: it only needs ubiquity rebuilt [14:54] ah, just saw that in comment #4 [14:54] so, just a no-change rebuild? [14:54] if so, I can handle it [14:54] seemed to work in my PPA [14:54] thanks [14:54] let's continue discussing it after the meeting [14:54] ok [14:55] #topic https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | weekly meeting 2021-03-23 | Current topic: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages [14:55] for Firefox 87 got released yesterday, so better built that instead [14:55] ? [14:55] and Thunderbird is getting a new version later today [14:55] thunderbird and firefox are blocked on s390x build failures caused by rustc, x_nox is looking after that [14:56] luna, I'm working on the firefox update separately [14:56] alright perfect :) [14:56] New Thunderbird too later tonight at around 6-7pm Swedish time atleast [14:56] evolution-data-server has build failures that need looking into [14:56] I'll take a look [14:57] everything else looks alright [14:57] think there is a new GNOME 3 later tonight aswell and GNOME 40 tommorow evening [14:57] but as Ubuntu is still on GNOME 3.x [14:58] 3.38.5.1 [14:58] see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop3/3.38.5-1ubuntu1 [14:59] ah perfect [14:59] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc | weekly meeting 2021-03-23 | Current topic: AOB [14:59] anything else worth discussing here and now? [14:59] the Hirsute Daily Images that comes on Thursday evening will have the last GNOME 3 to try out, but other then that nope [14:59] not from me [15:01] thanks luna for your feedback, I'm not under the impression that I had a meeting with just myself :) [15:01] thanks oSoMoN! [15:01] my other meeting just finished :p [15:01] hey ho Laney [15:01] did I overlook anything important? [15:01] (not used to driving these meetings) [15:01] np oSoMoN, hey Laney and Nafallo and RikMills too [15:01] looks good to me [15:02] ok, let's wrap then [15:02] thanks everyone [15:02] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/mxaCZTVc [15:02] Meeting ended at 15:02:11 UTC. Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2021/ubuntu-desktop.2021-03-23-14.34.moin.txt [15:02] no problem, cya all next week again :) [15:02] thanks guys :-) [15:02] I've got this meeting in my work calendar again, so I believe people will see me blocked this half hour ;-) [15:03] we've been talking in the team about changing it up a bit maybe [15:03] so you might see it disappear in this format [15:04] forums again? ;-) [15:04] that's just a teaser, wait for an announcement [15:04] :p [15:04] gonne go to the store and buy something to eat then listen to the GNOME 40 Special of Destination Linux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkQeapb61XU [15:04] haha [15:04] cya around Ubuntu Desktoppers [15:05] RikMills, back to bug #1920665, it's unclear to me from the comments that the no-change rebuild was tested/confirmed to fix the crash in all scenarios [15:05] bug 1920665 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Hirsute) "Ubiquity KDE crash on try/install and from live session with "malloc(): unaligned tcache chunk detected"" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1920665 [15:08] oSoMoN: actually I was just setting up now to test the only alternative case I can. i.e. laptop booting in safe graphics mode [15:09] thanks oSoMoN! [15:09] RikMills, ack, please keep me updated with the results [15:09] also, would you mind assigning the bug to yourself? [15:09] oSoMoN, hellsworth thanks :) [15:16] seb128, the evolution-data-server build failures are caused by symbols, looking at that now [15:25] oSoMoN: a no-change build worked with Sunday's ISO, but not todays [15:25] :( [15:25] ok, so that was a red herring [15:26] I was struggling to see how it might work, I admit [15:32] mmm, those missing symbols in evolution-data-server are from another lib (libphonenumber), that doesn't look right, what are they doing here in the first place [15:44] oSoMoN: however, I am reasonably certain that the update bisection was valid, and new mesa triggered things [15:44] where a solution might be, I have no clue [16:40] oSoMoN: sorry i was unable to be at the meeting but thanks for catching https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1886092. I have assigned it to Rico now. [16:40] Ubuntu bug 1886092 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Focal) "libreoffice doesn't list gpg private key for a digital signature due to apparmor" [Low,Confirmed] [16:40] congrats ricotz you win a bug :) [16:41] thanks [16:41] seb128, this seems to do the trick (for evolution-data-server): https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s59w2gq38p/ [16:43] GunnarHj: yo [16:43] I retried that test and it passed [16:44] one thing I did was look back in the history to see if it had happened before, and it had [16:44] so seems it is somewhat flaky === ijohnson is now known as ijohnson|lunch [17:13] Laney: I see, thanks. I suppose those chown() errors don't matter, but some day someone may still want to fix them. ;) [17:14] presumably the user isn't created in the environment the test is run in [17:14] I guess a motivated contributor could look into that ;-) [17:15] Yeah.. [18:41] missed Olivier, but e-d-s built fine in Debian and had built fine with no code change on the rc [18:41] side effect of the lto enablement? [18:42] doko, ^ any toolchain recent change that could explain why that change is needed now? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s59w2gq38p/ === ijohnson|lunch is now known as ijohnson