[01:02] Coming from Win to Ubuntu here. Still learning terminal and becoming more dangerous by the moment. Just messed up my audio. Can anyone help me? [01:07] Don't know all what I need to provide. Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS. X11. PulseAudio. Just want to globally be able to set gate for USB condensor mic. Had it working before. Used PulseEffects. Something I did throughout the day rendered this unusable. [01:09] Have reinstalled both. Nothing fixed. Googling like crazy but not finding what I need. If someone has better idea how to gate and monitor USB condensor mic I'd greatly appreciate it. Reading into a lot of material but don't want to go to far. [01:10] Mainly using microphone for phonecalls via TextNow and crappy T-mobile App called Digits. Also use it for Discord [01:23] hello [01:24] looking for help with debian. no answers in that channel yet tho. [01:24] What kind of help? [01:24] newbie i net-installed deb 10.8 yesterday [01:25] cant get the onboard radeon gpu drivers to work [01:25] Isn't there a shortcut key to open your CLI in your default text editor? I can't seem to find it [01:25] got amdgpu installed [01:25] busternube, not sure about that but maybe someone here can help [01:26] magic_ninja, what text editor are you using? [01:26] vim [01:26] but xfce "display" says "default" gpu [01:26] I know there was a ctrl + something key to do it [01:26] with only 720x and 1024x display [01:26] magic_ninja, you can try :term [01:27] I want to go the other way [01:27] Oh from terminal to text editor? [01:27] installed it behind my KVM switch which blocked monitor modes inquiry or something [01:27] Yea, where you quit and what you typed is your command [01:27] The other day I used it and I forgot what shortcut it is. [01:28] been trying to boot with the kvm removed but it goes blank so only works with kvm and in genric 1024 [01:28] AMD760g chipset with onboard radeon gpu [01:29] magic_ninja, so basically I write ls in vim line 1 and then some shortcut runs that command in the terminal? [01:29] magic_ninja, you can try :!! [01:30] No, it is just a keyboard shortcut from bash. It opens your default text editor, you edit the command, and when you close the text editor, the command is there. You start and finish on the command line [01:30] nobody knows..always my luck [01:30] busternube, give people some time to respond [01:30] sry [01:30] busternube, we are not tech support lol [01:30] magic_ninja, let me see if I can find something like that [01:31] magic_ninja, C-xC-e [01:31] try that [01:32] control-x control-e [01:33] haha busternube at least you got any answer [01:33] it is so stupid too [01:33] because when I try to google all I get are stupid vim tutorials [01:35] magic_ninja, did that work? [01:35] yea ctrl e worked [01:35] Excellent [01:35] I just went through the buttons trying each one and it didn't work [01:35] Then I come back and try it after you asked me just now and it worked [01:36] :D [01:36] I have to press ctrl-x ctrl-e on my terminal [01:37] Ohh, it take sboth [01:37] It's in the man page for bash under edit-and-execute-command [01:37] extended edit [01:37] ? [01:37] ohh, okay [01:38] so its that ctrl x, because ctrl e takes you to the line end [01:38] magic_ninja, I didn't know all those shortcuts. Thanks to you I found out where they are :D [01:38] There are some really handy ones there [01:38] !! is your last used command. So is ctrl+P [01:39] that is a handy one. So if you forget sudo you can do sudo !! [01:39] yeah I use that one often [01:39] I've switched over to zsh though for my terminal emulator. It isn't my default shell, though. [01:39] I like zsh's autocomplete and stuff better. [01:40] I use zsh as well. Glad to see that the bash shortcuts work there too === zbenjamin is now known as Guest27547 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === ledeni_ is now known as ledeni [03:58] hi everyone. wondering if anyone has a moment to help with an issue I'm having [04:04] bidget, provide your OS & release details & outline your issue & people will respond as they can (try and keep to a single line, be patient) [04:07] sure. I have a server running Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS. Essentially I am unable to use the sudo command, although logging in is no problem. The problem started out of the blue this morning. I booted into recovery mode and used the root shell to change my password. This worked temporarily, but when I logged in a few hours later the problem was back. Also, [04:07] if I use a different tty, sudo works fine. Not exactly sure how to fix it. === Amol is now known as Amol|gone === Amol|gone is now known as Amol [06:18] Hi, anyone available to help me with a self inflicted LVM issue? slowly going insane [06:42] 75.61.114.46 === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [06:47] Lostidentity: what exactly is the issue? be as detailed as possible... may be pastebin something to show the problem [06:49] TheBigK02: Okay hold please [06:58] Overview: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DnK9bXrvt7/ [07:05] hmm.... so the only thing u did wrong woth trying to mount a vmdk as ext4? [07:06] and then doing a reduce ? [07:10] So the main fuck up I *think* was nuking the original VMDK which contained the /etc/, the other was running the reduce [07:10] lemme check /etc on this host, see if I can recreate LVs [07:12] TheBigK02: Is it worth restoring from BEFORE I ran reduce? I do have that archive available according to vgcfgrestore -l [07:13] Lostidentity: how urgent is it, that u get to ur data. cause it might be worth it to do a dd from that state of drive [07:13] it depends how important that data is to u obviously [07:14] data recovery is always sensible... every change u might do, might cause more trouble [07:14] TheBigK02: I have a dd image, tried to pull the specific files I need using PhotoRec, it doesnt see the end of the zip file and thinks it takes the entire partition [07:14] what is ment with nuking... what exactly did u run [07:15] deleted VMDK from vSphere, rolled Ubtuntu, overwriting VMDK #1 in that diagram [07:15] VMDK #2 is intact [07:17] I've been unclear about the dd image, it is of SDB, the PV (2) that contains the LV (3) that I am trying to pull data from [07:28] Hello [07:28] Question: how can I get the HorizSync VertRefresh in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS [07:28] Lostidentity: it doesnt make much sense to me that lv3 is gone when u just did something to lv1 and 2 [07:30] Rumen: u mean adjusting the refresh rate of ur monitor be adjusting x11.conf ? [07:30] *by [07:31] Yep because I generate new one and I see a lot of things wrong [07:32] Section "Screen" shows Monitor as "Monitor0" instead of "DVI-0-I" [07:32] what exactly is wrong with ur xorg.conf ... usually u start by Xorg --configure and adjust from there [07:32] TheBigK02: Same, assuming vgreduce --removemissing cl_linux --force borked something? [07:32] gonna try restoring old metadata [07:33] Sectrion "Monitor" shows HorizSync 28.0 - 33.0 and VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 - Not sure that's right [07:33] Lostidentity: good luck [07:33] TheBigK02: Thanks, I wonder if having the LV mounted under / (LV2) would be an issue... [07:33] EXT4 only from here on out hhahaaa..... [07:34] Lostidentity: i wouldnt think that if the initrd is correctly done with a proper boot partition outside of the LVM... thats atleast how i configured LVM in the past. To be honest I did not use LVM for a long time. so i might be rusty :p [07:35] 3 days fight to fix the resolution because start and wake up with 1600x900 instead of 1920x1080 [07:35] xrandr gives error [07:35] TheBigK02: So there was an LV named BOOT... uh [07:35] that was LV1 [07:35] unsure if centos stores initrd outside of that, heading to the docs [07:35] so I input the values manually [07:36] Lostidentity: initrds are always in /boot ... [07:36] fuck [07:37] Lostidentity: to restore a /boot partition is very easy... [07:37] language please Lostidentity [07:37] Lostidentity: or recreate it ... [07:37] guiverc2: sorry! [07:37] TheBigK02: could you elaborate on that please? [07:38] Say I know the exact path of where it was mounted and I dont care about OS data just what is in the mounted folder [07:38] Lostidentity: initrds are always generated on the fly... so u just need to have the root partiton ... and say grub to reinstall and du initrd -u -a or something like that === hacxman is now known as hexo [07:39] TheBigK02: I think I need to read up on initrds [07:39] initramfs are no fancy science... [07:39] its just a mini / filesystem which intializes ur LVM and then does a switchroot === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [07:39] and then it boots ur system [07:40] TheBigK02: Wait, if I recreate a PV with the UUID its looking for, put a placeholder boot partition on it and recreate folder structure/OS [07:40] think I can reattach/recreate? [07:40] should be possible, yes [07:41] i kinda wanna force meta data back onto VG first [07:41] recreating is probably simpler than trying to recover [07:41] but its failing since it thinks its missing a PV [07:41] can i create a fake block device, assign that UUID then have it restore the archive data to the VG? [07:42] Lostidentity: i would consult documentation about lvm about that. [07:43] I would have to research that as well [07:43] TheBigK02: fair, will do [07:43] Lostidentity: sorry that I cant be more of a help regarding that [07:43] TheBigK02: No sweat, youve been a huge help [07:43] Thank you [07:44] Lostidentity: what i recommend is... dont rush anything... think about what u want to do... Slow is proper and Proper is fast ;) [07:45] TheBigK02: Agreed, sending the VMDK to NAS atm. Its "only" 8TB [07:46] Lostidentity: good idea [08:03] Anyone can help with xorg.conf? [08:11] Rumen: i Understood that u want to fix resolution issues after resuming from standby [08:12] but other than that its quite unclear what u want... [08:12] what prevents u from fixing ur xorg.conf ... [08:13] and i dont quite understand... is ur monitor not capable of DPMS? [08:21] Monitor - Philips 237EQPH (DVI-I-0), card - Nvidia Quadro 4000, card driver 390.141 [08:22] After the last regular Ubuntu (20.04 LTS / 64) update the resolution became 1600x900 [08:22] i would recommend using nvidia-settings to generate a proper xorg.conf [08:23] I try to fix it with xrandr to make a --newmode and --addmode [08:23] Yes I deleted the old xorg.conf and with nvidia-settings made new one [08:24] but there are no mode, resolutions, monitor etc. [08:25] pastebin ur xorg.conf please [08:25] I input manually mode but no idea about the monitor [08:26] Also added manually Modeline [08:26] here it is the file https://pastebin.com/QwzqiiNn [08:27] im confused... according to a website ur monitor has hdmi and VGA... but no dvi ?! [08:28] but not sure about: Identifier "Screen0", Device "Device0" and Monitor "Monitor0" [08:28] No DVI - Yes only VGA and HDMI [08:28] and u use hdmi ? [08:29] no I use VGA because my video card is Quadro 4000 and no HDMI only VGA [08:30] okay... thats quite some old tech... and it worked with 1920 and 60 hz before u upgraded to 20.04 ? [08:30] Yes [08:31] then DPMS is no option for u... now it makes sense [08:31] I upgraded to 20.04 1 year ago, when I said update I mean the last autoupdate of a basic things [08:31] and since then u have the resoltion broken or what?! [08:31] few days ago [08:31] what did change. the nvidia driver only? [08:32] no the core update [08:32] the driver is old one [08:33] there was autoupdate of "Ubuntu Basic Components" as usually .... and after that resolution decrease to 1600x900 [08:33] check ur /var/log/apt/history.log and see what did change [08:33] after fresh start 1600x900, after hybernation wake with 1600x900 [08:36] How do you add resolution on a display driver [08:37] with xrandr [08:37] here is the file - the problem started March 18, 2021 https://pastebin.com/zyRLSxpR [08:38] Thanx [08:38] Every time I have to add manually resolution, but I got also error from xrandr [08:38] linux-modules-nvidia-390-5.8.0-45-generic:amd64 [08:38] so the driver changed [08:39] Rumen: i would consult changelogs and may be u find ur answer there ... [08:40] xrandr error https://pastebin.com/vec2Af4c [08:40] in the nvidia-settings tool... the screen shows up ? u usually can put that custom resoltion into that xorg.conf file without doing it manually.. or is that the way u did it [08:41] haven't seen driver changed - it is automatic [08:41] strange there are 2 of them [08:41] nvidia-settings:amd64 (460.39-0ubuntu0.20.04.1, automatic) [08:41] thats "normal"... the nvidia-settings can be of different version [08:41] and nvidia-kernel-source-390:amd64 (390.141-0ubuntu0.20.04.1) [08:41] rumen what is your xrandr command? [08:42] rumen use cvt xy refresh [08:42] xrandr --newmode and xrandr -addmode after cvt 1920 1080 [08:42] and add the monitor DVI-I-0 [08:43] rumen the error occured with addmode? [08:43] sometimes after newmode, sometimes after addmode [08:43] one and the same error [08:44] rumen tell me your newmode sequence [08:44] rumen setence [08:44] xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00" 173.00 1920 2048 2248 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync [08:46] rumen from cvt, ok correct [08:46] Yes [08:47] rumen and addmode [08:48] xrandr --addmode "1920x1080_60.00" DVI-I-0 [08:48] rumen before you run addmode you need to verify if xrandr returns any dvi output, to you add a new mode [08:49] rumen try this: xrandr --addmode "1920x1080_60.00" DVI-I-0 [08:49] sometimes accept the --newmode without errors [08:49] rumen: try this xrandr --addmode 1920x1080_60.00 DVI-I-0 [08:50] xrandr: cannot find output "1920x1080_60.00" [08:50] rumen create with newmode [08:50] rumen before [08:51] https://pastebin.com/JXgSJWTm [08:52] rumen run without sudo command [08:53] https://pastebin.com/0YS58r9V [08:53] rumen what is your cvt setence? [08:53] sentence [08:54] https://pastebin.com/v7pkC27Y [08:55] rumen try this: cvt 1920x1080 60 [08:56] rumen without sudo [08:57] this give very strage result https://pastebin.com/3bEBUSEs [08:57] resolution 1920x60 [08:57] rumen sorry, cvt 1920 1080 60 [08:58] this looks correct https://pastebin.com/Qu02FnjF [08:59] rumen yes [09:00] rumen now try newmode and addmode [09:00] rumen with that modeline [09:01] Hello. I have 20.10 installed. I also have virtualbox that I use with ubuntu 20.10. When I let the VM in fullscreen the host does not lock leaving it exposed :) [09:02] https://pastebin.com/JRbniEem [09:02] Any tweaks I need to do? [09:05] rumen pastebin xrandr output, like: xrandr [09:06] rumen d oyou have dual gpu? [09:07] no [09:07] at the momment it is with resolution 1920x1080, but if I restart will back to 1600x900 [09:08] Hello! I was running do-release-upgrade on a server to upgrade 18.04->20.04. I opened a shell to inspect the difference between two config files (Z option) and ran vimdiff. Inside vimdiff I hit ctrl-c and that unexpectedly killed the upgrade. Any ideas how I can recover? [09:08] but I try many many things from the morning and after restart back to lower resolutions [09:08] https://pastebin.com/mDtcFFwn [09:08] rumen first you have to create add and outputs, one time [09:09] rumen good [09:09] reynir: are you sure the upgrade isn't still running? anything in "ps aux" ? what's the contents of 'cat /etc/issue' ? [09:09] rumen put into .xsessionrc this command each one at a time [09:09] rumen and try reboot the machine [09:09] EriC^: /etc/issue is, excluding blank lines: Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS \n \l [09:10] EriC^: there's a dpkg process running, but it's not doing anything [09:10] reynir: can you pastebin it's line in ps aux? [09:10] /usr/bin/dpkg --force-overwrite --status-fd 56 --configure --pending [09:10] "not doing anything" as in it's not using any cpu time [09:10] aha [09:11] reynir: is there any screen session or so for the upgrader? [09:11] No, the server has only tmux installed and no screen [09:11] put into .xsessionrc this command each one at a time - which command? [09:11] i think by default the upgrader is supposed to use screen somehow [09:12] Sorry asking, but I don't use too much IRC [09:12] reynir: anything from "ps aux | grep upgrade" [09:12] `which screen` returns nothing [09:12] rumen newmode, next line addmode, last xrandr --output [09:12] rumen as you know now how to do [09:13] Aha OK [09:13] rumen create the file .xsessionrc into homefolder [09:13] EriC^: Yes! thanks. Two python scripts https://p.reyn.ir/p/+lyMFx6K+Xs [09:13] rumen and put three commands into that [09:14] rumen after reboot, tell me if works [09:15] EriC^: https://p.reyn.ir/p/xDU3KTHcTeQ [09:15] oh I see vimdiff is still running ?! [09:15] I closed the terminal [09:16] Hello everyone. I'm trying to install ubuntu server on btrfs. It seems I cannot choose any subvolume layout in the installer and if I preconfigure disk and mount in /target, the installer bails out [09:16] Maybe if I try killing vimdiff it'll progress [09:16] reynir: https://serverfault.com/questions/387547/how-do-i-reattach-to-ubuntu-servers-do-release-upgrade-process [09:17] ah i think if you dont have screen installed it wont be available [09:18] reynir: it seems you might have to kill the dpkg process and see if it continues, and finally do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' so that it configures the stuff it didnt [09:19] what kind of link is "https://www.pdfdrive.com/download.pdf?id=33735280&h=39e1817b05cf155433309dbb2f3289fe&u=cache&ext=pdf"? and why these kind of links are not download for wget or aria2? [09:19] reynir: look at the /etc/apt/sources.list to see they're all only focal and then also do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [09:20] reynir: sudo apt-get -f install might also be a useful command to see the apt integrity is all good [09:22] /etc/apt/sources.list is all focal, but there's a /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade which is all bionic [09:22] reynir: aha i think it only uses .list files, but to be safe maybe remove it and back it up somewhere [09:25] Thanks. I moved the file away and killed dpkg. I saw briefly a 'focal' process afterwards in top. Now I'm running dpkg --configure -a and it's doing something [09:31] after the reboot everything looks fine https://pastebin.com/HjYE0gDQ [09:51] rumen good! [09:51] Thanks a lot for the help!!! [09:51] rumen you are welcome [09:53] rumen remember, after you ran these commands, you cannot create same newmode, addmode, becase it already exists [09:53] rumen exist [09:54] rumen because of that you gave some erros [09:54] I hope I will not need to make it again, since March 18 every day 2-3 times I should put many many commands to change the resolution [09:55] rumen unless you change modeline name ok! [09:55] rumen good, if do not work in .xsessrionrc try .xinit with these commands [09:56] Sure thanks a lot. That was because of t he Nvidia update? [09:56] Alright, I finished the upgrade. Hopefully it comes back just fine after the reboot [09:57] oh, I should probably have used the opportunity to do some backups before... >.< [09:57] rumen maybe, you run optimus on your machine? [09:58] rumen your note is optimus capable? [09:59] no, I haven't touch anything only when the auto update appear I hit OK and that's all have not chnaged the video card driver for more then 1 year when upgraded from 18.04 to 20.04 and the old driver didn't worked fine [10:01] rumen understand, i think nvidia is not the trouble [10:03] rumen but this .xsessionrc dont dissapeared after upgrades [10:03] rumen disappear [10:03] I see [10:04] rumen none distro i have known make modification into $HOME directory [10:04] rumen delete for example [10:05] EriC^: It worked! Thanks for all the help :) [10:39] Hi ! -from an old dell poweredge 9250- [11:01] welcome baobabfruit [11:04] Question time, im running ubuntu server 20.10, i just hot swapped a drive i want to shred but lsblk doesn't show the device [11:04] ideas ? === hacxman is now known as hexo [11:07] can try #ubuntu-server if you like baobabfruit [11:07] will do thanks [11:14] Does systemd-resolved on Ubuntu 18.04 do some kind of connectivity checking when a user is applying DNS config? It seems weird, because the DBus RPCs for setting the config take a lot of time, sometimes even hitting the timeout- and I've not seen this behavior before. [11:30] Hi folks [11:30] Hello [11:31] o/ [11:31] o/ [11:32] o\ [11:33] o/ [11:34] Hi i have a question about the a prosses that runs on start up: "/usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /usr/sbin/update-secureboot-policy --enroll-key" [11:34] mss0406: please don't cross post, thanks in advance === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [12:39] hi there [12:39] i am on kubuntu 20.10 and i want to install a package from previous ubuntu version, python-wxgtk3.0 what is the best way to do this ? [12:56] silv3r_m00n: there's #kubuntu if you need support with that [12:57] -_- [13:01] Hi all. On 20.04 Desktop. Is it possible to disabled the button on my mouse on its left side (under my thumb)? I don't really use it and I occasionally click it by accident (which can be helluva frustrating when I'm browsing the web since clicking that button is the equivalent of clicking the Back button on the browser). Thanks :-) [13:03] ordos: check out gnome-tweaks and dconf-editor perhaps [13:03] lotuspsychje, thanks will take a look [13:27] hi the command "/usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /usr/sbin/update-secureboot-policy --enroll-key" keeps running on start up can i somehow provent this from happening/resolve the command [13:31] Hello, I've just installed an Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop in a core dos duo quad, but I cannot boot, it falls back to Netboot, can somebody help? [13:32] epinky: 10.04? [13:32] Maik: sorry, 20.04 [13:33] I've searched for possible causes, they point out to UEFI issues, so I tried tweaking BIOS option with no joy [13:36] epinky, what options did you tweak? Saveboot, boot order, etc? [13:37] mss0406: yes, UEFI enable/disable also [13:39] so safeboot,bootorder and uefi enabled disabled. do you have a option to choose what boot maneger it goes into(eg: Windows boot maneger, Ubunutu, etc.) thats usualy hidden at the bottom of some boot settings? [13:40] no, it's an old PC quad core as I told [13:40] I'm using the whole disk [13:40] mss0406: no, I'm using the whole disk [13:41] do you have ubuntu on a CD or USB drive? if its on a usb drive what programm did you use to put ubuntu on there epinky [13:41] mss0406: I have a DVD [13:41] ok [13:42] mss0406: I tested moving the disk to another PC and it boots fine [13:43] ok [13:44] can you try to disable all other boot options? epinky [13:44] ok, right away [13:44] mss0406: ok, right away [13:44] ok [13:46] epinky: processor speed? How much RAM? [13:47] how is processor speed and ram related to boot problem? I'm curious [13:48] too litle of both = no boot at all [13:48] epinky: is the PC 32 or 64 bit? [13:48] if 32 then you're out of luck [13:49] Maik: 64 [13:49] Maik: 8GB RAM [13:49] hmmm... should be sufficient [13:49] my god [13:49] what [13:50] 8GB ram and a quad core? i havent see sutch a config in a laptop yet [13:51] epinky: first, laptop model? [13:52] flrnd: if you can provide better support be my guest, not everyone has the same knowledge about things [13:52] * Maik is afk [13:53] Excuse my manners, I forget sometimes that "typing" can be rude too. It wasnt my intention :) [13:55] mss0406: it's not a laptop, BIOS says: Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad CPU Q6600 2.40GHz Intel EM64T Capable 1.6 GHz L2 Cache RAM 2x4096Kb, total memory: 4096MB [13:55] flrnd: all good [13:56] not a laptop. Okey. You've already tried to boot from LIVE USB/CD but it drops the boot to netboot, that's correct? [13:56] epinky, oh i may have missunderstud something [13:56] epinky: so, you see grub, start the boot process and at some point fails? [13:57] flrnd: no, it does not boot at all, no error displayed, if I move the disk to another PC it boots flawlessly [13:58] okey, so, you 100% sure that the BIOS is settup correctly to boot from that device? [13:58] flrnd: yes, indeed I disabled all the other boot options as suggested by mss0406, no joy [13:59] can you take a screenshot and share it? [14:01] epinky, ok can you try a usb stick with the iso on it? might be that some pc refuce to use cd as a boot drive, also if you flash the usb stick with windows use rufus otherwise it might throw an error [14:01] yeah, it may be few reasons, [14:02] 1) The way you created that usb (for example, using old mbr instead of uefi/gpt layout) [14:03] mss0406: the problem it's not the DVD boot, indeed it installs to hard drive flawlessly, the problem is that I cannot boot the installed version via hard drive [14:04] so, the problem is not the install, is after install [14:04] we're close [14:05] epinky: so, you can see the grub menu and boot, right? [14:06] flrnd: no, it does not boot at all, no grub menu [14:06] nomodeset? [14:06] uefi or bios? [14:07] do you have other OS on that computer? you installed the grub on the wrong uefi partition :P [14:07] epinky: I would disable secureboot and UEFI and re-install [14:07] I'd ensure that the legacy bios crap is disabled [14:08] including CSR [14:08] cbreak: I'd ensure that legacy BIOS is enabled and the only way to boot to limit complications and what is probably causing the issue [14:08] and then register the bootloader with efibootmgr [14:09] that'll avoid a whole lot of complications [14:09] cbreak: right, by disabling UEFI [14:09] and you don't have to worry about things like MBR, or what ever [14:09] you can have nice, independent installed OSes, each with their own EFI partition, on their own device [14:10] and boot everything via the EFI boot menu [14:10] (if you set it up that way) [14:10] cbreak: exactly [14:10] this will obviously not work if you have systems that are set up for legacy boot [14:11] his problem is that ubuntu is trying to boot from an empty uefi partition [14:11] but it should work fine with grub, systemd-boot, clover, OpenCore, refind, ... [14:11] ubuntu should install a boot loader. I think grub, by default [14:11] when booted to ubuntu (live usb works too), you can configure everything via `efibootmgr` [14:12] it's commandline, and quite unintuitive though [14:12] thing is, Ubuntu (and debian) select the first uefi partition it finds [14:13] don't know if grub supports this, but efi partition contents are just files, they can be copied over without problems normally [14:13] I use that to backup my OpenCore configs, but it might also work for grub [14:13] I have 2 drivers in this computer, and I always need to open a terminal and re-mount the correct uefi partition to avoid the installer using the other drive one [14:13] that seems silly. [14:14] the installer should use the efi partition that is on the same drive as the partition it is installed on [14:14] it should, but it doesn't [14:14] epinky: if you want it simple and just want to boot and run ubuntu on this older machine, I would recommend disabling secureboot and UEFI completely. Stick with legacy BIOS mode and reinstall. You should be fine after that. If you want to continue troubleshooting for the next few hours and possibly, maybe get it sorted out, then by all means continue with what others are suggesting. [14:14] once ubuntu is installed, I think you can control this via /etc/fstab [14:14] if you manage to boot from it once :) [14:15] hi, on a fairly fresh install... I don't see underscores in HexChat... any ideas why? [14:15] we need more info, like the partition layout. more drives or just one, only Ubuntu or dualboot... [14:16] "my computer don't boot" is, sorry, but moot [14:17] I bet my ods to the system trying to boot an empty uefi partition ;P [14:18] also does anyone know what the flip flap the command "/usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /usr/sbin/update-secureboot-policy --enroll-key" does and why it keeps running on start up [14:19] ELFrederich: yes, there's a bug with hexchat in how it renders monospace fonts of a certain size ... [14:19] ELFrederich: the fix is not available in any version of hexchat available from the official repos. I have patched the latest version available in 20.04 and made a PPA for it if you are comfortable using that [14:19] ELFrederich: https://launchpad.net/~leftyfb/+archive/ubuntu/hexchat/ [14:21]