[01:10] <mrtrousers> Hello i need help with thunderbird..
[01:11] <mrtrousers> I deleted one email account to restore it later, and i did say to remove local emails..
[01:11] <mrtrousers> It made sense at the moment, but now upon restoring the account it's not syncing with the remote server..
[01:11] <mrtrousers> The emails are in the server, but not in the thunderbird inbox..
[01:23] <sarnold> mrtrousers: there's some settings about folder synchronization https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/imap-synchronization
[01:25] <mrtrousers> sarnold Ive been checking that, i think i have them right..
[01:57] <redline_x> was there a time when this channel was alot chattier?
[01:58] <TigerDz> it's a bit late in the eastern US rn and it's v late in Europe so that might be why its quiet rn
[01:58] <redline_x> ah k
[01:59] <redline_x>  i thought i remembered this chan being so busy it was hard to get a question in before
[02:02] <Bashing-om> redline_x: While true - used to be difficult to get a word in edge wise here - ubuntu has become so user friendly and intuitive - not much left for support :P
[02:02] <redline_x> i hope thats it!
[02:07] <sarnold> redline_x: yeah, a few years ago there was a lot more traffic
[02:21] <goodTimesImmort> Hello room.
[02:23] <sarnold> hello goodTimesImmort
[03:22] <BadBoyHaloCat> For a general desktop system, would you go with LTS (20.04 Focal Fossa currently) or latest (20.10 Groovy Gorilla currently)?
[03:23] <BadBoyHaloCat> (not a server, just a laptop i use from time to time)
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> BadBoyHaloCat: depending your needs, LTS vs non-lts its the users choice
[03:25] <matsaman> just depends on how lazy you "plan" on being about updates
[03:25] <BadBoyHaloCat> i usually update as soon as I see one
[03:26] <matsaman> you can always wipe out the OS part of a system and update it that way, if you forget to update too long, doesn't take very long at all
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> BadBoyHaloCat: usualy newer hardware benefits later ubuntu releases, due higher kernels
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> but there's also !HWE to fix things
[03:26] <BadBoyHaloCat> is the fact that the rtl8821ce driver broken a kernel-level problem or Ubuntu-related?
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> BadBoyHaloCat: realtek chipsets are kernel sensitive
[03:27] <BadBoyHaloCat> alright now i understand why all the distros i tried didn't have a working driver
[03:27] <BadBoyHaloCat> i tried Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, and custom-built arch
[03:28] <BadBoyHaloCat> matsaman: is that why people keep /home separate?
[03:37] <matsaman> BadBoyHaloCat: some people do mistakenly consider that justification, yes
[03:37] <matsaman> BadBoyHaloCat: you don't need separate /home to do that, however
[03:38] <matsaman> mostly separate partitions are useful for differing FSes
[04:28] <busternoob2> need help.
[04:28] <busternoob2>  i configured my 1360x768 in the debian live iso with xrandr commands just fine. xrandr is not working in my bad netinstall here.
[04:28] <busternoob2> the gpu drivers not working right. radeon onboard gpu RS780L "3000" series
[04:30] <busternoob2> i got the unofficial xfce live iso with nonfree included. it just boots up and runs right. i have to set my mmode with the 3 xrandr commands and it works.    my bad netinstall doesnt
[04:42] <matsaman> busternoob2: what are the two drivers in use on the Debian & Ubuntu installs,  & their versions?
[04:54] <svm_invictvs> So
[04:55] <svm_invictvs> I have a program that's a shell script
[04:55] <svm_invictvs> And I want to make desktop shortcut to id.
[04:55] <svm_invictvs> I can't just frun it from the directory by clicking on it for some reason.
[05:02] <svm_invictvs> How do I just add a custom launcher to my desktop somewhere?
[05:12] <busternoob2> dont have ubuntu only installed the oem driver for ubunu since debian was not listed
[05:12] <busternoob2> not getting fully helped in the debian channel thought you guys might
[05:13] <busternoob2> i have the logs from a succesfil live iso boot and the logs from my bad netinstall
[05:13] <busternoob2> was looking for a file dump
[05:13] <busternoob2> need help.to share thewm here
[05:13] <busternoob2> to share thewm here
[05:13] <busternoob2> i cant type sry
[05:30] <busternoob2> guess i have to just wipe the disk and install again from the unnoficial
[05:30] <busternoob2> its been 3-4 days this is just pissing in the wind
[05:30] <busternoob2> you people are useless
[05:31] <busternoob2> there should a procedure for unborking the gpu drivers
[05:42] <JohnTalent> sarnold: i have tried logging off/turning off.
[05:42] <JohnTalent> what sucks is i've developing under it and I'm hosed.
 you people are useless
[05:50] <derpadmin> perhaps try to see who wrote the driver
[06:17] <mattfly> php7.4 on ubuntu and nginx: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'imagick.so' (tried: /usr/lib/php/20190902/imagick.so
[07:25] <OERIAS> hello folks
[07:26] <OERIAS> I have been having recurring issue with Ubuntu 20.10 corrupting my ntfs drives on an external hard drive
[07:26] <OERIAS> this is problematic because this is my drive where I store items
[07:27] <OERIAS> Windows not seems to repair the file system when running the chkdsk util
[07:29] <derpadmin> OERIAS, are you sure the drive is not failing?
[07:30] <derpadmin> smartctl could help you to see if the hardware part of your disk is healthy
[07:33] <OERIAS> derpadmin, this is a new drive
[07:33] <OERIAS> it is not failing
[07:34] <Maik> new drives can fail too
[07:34] <OERIAS> but this is not the case
[07:34] <OERIAS> it is an issue with the NTFS drive being corrupted.
[08:25] <busternube> https://filebin.net/voxswo47m2qwltt9
[08:25] <busternube> my logs vs the correctly working live iso logs
[08:28] <guiverc> busternube, this is Ubuntu support; you was asking before about Debian which isn't supported here sorry
[08:42] <Simplar> Hello! I'm having a PC that dual boots Windows 10 and Ubuntu 20.10; However, Ubuntu is on an HDD, and Windows is on an SSD. I'd like to speed Ubuntu up using 55Gb unallocated space on SSD. What's the best way to do that? Thanks!
[08:48] <guiverc> Simplar, I can't provide any advice on 'best' way; I'd likely setup the partition I wanted on the SSD, copy the data wanted from your Ubuntu partition(s) to the formatted SSD partition(s), then an unclean install (existing partition(s), no format, upgrade via re-install like) into the SSD  ... but that's one option only.  I have no experience on moving boot with dual-boot system & windows 10 sorry
[08:50] <Monotoko> Any ideas what's up with this? This works fine: sed -i "s/{AWSUSER}/$AWSUSER/g" /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
[08:50] <Monotoko> this does not: sed -i "s/{AWSPASS}/$AWSPASS/g" /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
[08:50] <Monotoko> I get an error: sed: bad option in substitution expression
[08:51] <Monotoko> they both look exactly the same to me, so I'm not sure what's going on...
[08:55] <legreffier> Monotoko: you need to escape that dollar sign i think
[09:14] <freddyb> I consistently get `W: An error occurred during the signature verification.` during 'apt update'. I tried some suggested workarounds that involve not accepted cached responses or skipping proxies (I have none), but that clearly didn't work. Is this a known issue? This is on Ubuntu 20.10 desktop.
[10:55] <RonWhoCares> Any idea what my Ubuntu is lying to me
[10:55] <RonWhoCares> https://pastebin.com/7DBe5TCd
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> !info sqlite3
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> apt is always right RonWhoCares
[10:56] <RonWhoCares> How do I get the command line to install
[10:58] <marcoagpinto> RonWhoCares: Right-click and "open terminal"
[10:58] <marcoagpinto> :)
[10:58] <RonWhoCares> I am already in terminal.  I was referring to ubottu 's comment
[10:59] <RikMills> you already have it. wyou used it in the paste
[11:01] <RonWhoCares> I didn't paste enough.  Then I get this error:  https://pastebin.com/Yg0zJNj4
[11:01] <RonWhoCares> I don't get why it says I have sqlite3 and then I don't
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: did you download another sqlite somewhere and install manual ontop the one with apt?
[11:02] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: I just did what I normally would:      sudo apt install sqlite3
[11:02] <RikMills> RonWhoCares:  you appear to be trying to build something from source there
[11:02] <RonWhoCares> Yes
[11:03] <RikMills> in such cases you usually need the development files
[11:03] <RonWhoCares> What I am really trying to do is install "   onedrive  "
[11:03] <RikMills> e.g. the libsqlite3-dev package
[11:03] <RonWhoCares> These are the steps I am following:   https://gist.github.com/starlinq/0f98c6d9339497bb8ac42d67f66f60eb
[11:04] <RonWhoCares> Son of a gun
[11:04] <RonWhoCares> You are right.  It needed the -dev package
[11:04] <RikMills> indeed
[11:14] <VMGuy23> how to set defaults for protocols (im looking for irc://)
[11:27] <VMGuy23> how to set defaults for protocols (im looking for irc://)
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> patience VMGuy23
[11:33] <linuxconformer> hey guys, i have a new windows laptop i want to dual boot ubuntu on, in the installation GUI do i need to click the "Change" button on the largest partition?
[11:34] <VMGuy23> is there not a dual-boot option?
[11:35] <linuxconformer> I don't think so, there was the first time i booted the usb, but then it told me i needed to disable bitlocker, which i did, but now the dual boot option doesn't show
[11:36] <linuxconformer> It only has "Erase disk" and "Something else"
[12:00] <EriC^^> linuxconformer: you need to shrink the windows partition from windows and reboot into it a couple times, then boot the live usb
[12:03] <Bluewolf> Good day all
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:19] <Bluewolf> lotuspsychje - Sorry I didn't reply yesterday. I changed graphic settings and no noticeable change.
[12:25] <linuxconformer> EriC^^: Do i need to create a new partition on windows, or can i just free up a few hundred GB?
[12:26] <linuxconformer> The installer is giving me the message "If you continue, the changes listed below will be written to the disks. ... \n The partition tables of the following devices are changed: /dev/nvme0n1
[12:26] <linuxconformer> "The following partitions are going to be formatted: partition #5 of /dev/nvme0n1 as ext4"
[12:27] <linuxconformer> is it safe to click "Continue"?
[12:29] <linuxconformer> or if anybody else knows...?
[12:33] <EriC^^> linuxconformer: that doesnt sound good, sounds like it is removing windows
[12:34] <linuxconformer> too late...
[12:34] <EriC^^> linuxconformer: you dont need to create a new parititon in windows, you just need to shrink the windows partition so you get unallocated free space, and then ubuntu can use that to create a partition for it
[12:34] <EriC^^> ok
[12:34] <linuxconformer> yeah that's what i did
[12:34] <linuxconformer> there were 4 partitions on there before, so i think it should be ok
[12:41] <jil> hello
[12:42] <jil> I want to develop a simple appliction for android.  What route would you recommand?
[12:48] <Bluewolf> Anyone know what could lead to poor sound quality through Ubuntu software?
[12:48] <Bluewolf> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q9Vm59WtNJ/
[12:49] <wibawa> i always stuck when booting to ubuntu
[12:50] <wibawa> anyone plz help
[13:14] <Bluewolf> Having a problem in Ubuntu 20.04 with low sound and partial static. Suspected it was my earphones, until I used them on an older laptop with the same OS (Sound quality is amazing on it) - I changed graphic drivers to no avail. Any ideas?
[13:15] <Bluewolf> This is my systems dmseg - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q9Vm59WtNJ/
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Bluewolf, sudo lshw -C sound gives a more readable output than dmesg
[13:21] <BluesKaj> also check your headphone volume in alsamixer
[13:26] <Bluewolf> BluesKaj: Headphone volume is up on alsamixer (Though my headphones are plugged into the back ports of my PC), Output is - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YmRtk4WgFB/
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Bluewolf, is there no audio out on the front of the pc, that's usually meant for headphones
[13:32] <BluesKaj> and choose your sound device in alsamixer with F6
[13:34] <Bluewolf> BluesKaj: I'm currently waiting for a new audio cable for my front PC jack (The current ones are not working) - Could the back ports lead to low volume?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Bluewolf, the analog output on the v=back is "line level" which is meant to plug into powered speakers, not headphones
[13:38] <Bluewolf> BluesKaj: Oh. So this is an unfortunate issue and not even a software problem - I feel so ashamed :D
[13:39] <BluesKaj> no reason to be
[13:39] <BluesKaj> ashamed"
[13:39] <BluesKaj> linux audio is a pita from the get go :-)
[13:41] <Bluewolf> BluesKaj: HA! - Nearly binned my headphones xD
[13:41] <Bluewolf> I'll try the new cable
[13:42] <Bluewolf> Before I do start binning everything :D
[13:42] <ThothCastel> when installing Ubuntuwith 2 HDD's in a mirror
[13:42] <ThothCastel> is it not possible to have the MD0 as the bootable partition?
[13:43] <Bluewolf> BluesKaj: (the analog output on the v=back is "line level") - The thought did cross my mind, I just didn't know about that. Thanks for the info, time and help.
[13:44] <ThothCastel> in other words - can I use a software raid md0 as the boot partition?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Bluewolf, hope you solve this
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> !raid | ThothCastel
[13:46] <ThothCastel> thanks ubottu !
[14:15] <Zuroger-KUB20> Hello
[14:16] <Zuroger-KUB20> I get a bunch of fails in the boot process, I've had Kubuntu 20.04 LTS installed for 4 months and only noticed this now: https://pastebin.com/XZfGVGPB
[14:32] <Zuroger-KUB20> I'll see if it happens on the cloned disk, SSD, which I updated, maybe that fixed it already.
[14:33] <overclucker> could be drive failure or just a broken instal
[14:34] <overclucker> wow, timing
[14:56] <andyyyyy> hello
[14:57] <andyyyyy> I need help
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> !ask | andyyyyy
[14:57] <andyyyyy> I'm on Ubuntu 20.10. have set it up with zfs on my laptop
[14:58] <andyyyyy> and mirroring the rpool on an external hard disk, which i sometimes have to disconnect. After reconnecting, it resilvers. So far , as expected.
[14:58] <andyyyyy> But it takes ages to resilver, and i think that cannot be right.
[14:59] <andyyyyy> 300GB. it's been resilvering for almost 3 days without interruption now, and still less than 20% completion
[15:00] <andyyyyy> I know, usb ain't fast, but can it really take weeks to resilver 300GB?
[15:02] <andyyyyy> it would bother me less, if i could just use the omputer normally during that time, but I can't, because it is very unresponsive. Even renaming a simple text file can take up to a minute
[15:07] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: it sounds like this isn't a very good backup solution. You should just backup what you need on a nightly basis. If a crisis happens, reinstall the OS, reinstall your packages and restore your files
[16:11] <agvantibo> Hello! Remember my issue from yesterday, with the apt upgrade displaying stuff? Well, if you've paid attention, there was a notice about a debconf.dat file being locked by some PID. Investigating, i've discovered a thing called "frontend", that's attached to Vboxdrv and has locked some stuff. After sigterming it, everything went back to normal... https://paste.gnome.org/pq3flo8lq
[16:11] <oerheks> agvantibo, good spot
[16:11] <agvantibo> Just postin' it in case someone has this problem too
[16:13] <agvantibo> oerheks: thanks
[16:15] <agvantibo> BTW, what Unicode character did you use to flip your ""real"" name? https://i.imgur.com/VfojT8A.png
[16:21] <jwash> can anyone tell me a good VT100 terminal? minicom only does VT102
[16:23] <oerheks> xvt
[16:23] <oerheks> !info xvt
[16:25] <oerheks> oh, rxvt, also xterm
[16:28] <rfm_> jwash, a real VT102 was upward compatible to a VT100... what are you doing that VT102 emulation doesn't do that you think VT100 would?
[16:32] <Simplar> Hello! Does formatting certain parts of my HDD with Ubuntu on them influence GNU GRUB?
[16:32] <Simplar> I'm planning to format these from Windows 10
[16:34] <oerheks> Simplar, yes, most likely
[16:35] <oerheks> so, boot a live iso after that, and update grub
[16:35] <oerheks> !grub
[16:35] <Simplar> So, it's safe to format drives if my Windows Boot Manager is isolated (UEFI GPT)?
[16:38] <andyyyyy> thanks, leftyfb . what i like about my solution is that i don't have to worry about which files are important and which not or if i maybe forgot something important, as i back up everything
[16:39] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: it's not a good solution for many reasons. The main one being at the moment it's not working for you due to the resilvering taking long or slowing your machine down while in process. A backup script would not require you to remember to plug the drive in and render your computer unsuable every so often.
[16:40] <andyyyyy> true
[16:41] <andyyyyy> but couldn't i nonetheless backup everything with the script?
[16:41] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: yes, but you don't need to
[16:41] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: you only need your home and maybe some things in /etc that you are aware of
[16:42] <andyyyyy> and the list of installed packages
[16:42] <andyyyyy> their settings are not always in /home tho
[16:46] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: they usually are. You should note the ones that aren't.
[16:46] <andyyyyy> ok
[16:46] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: I'm in the process of creating an ansible playbook to rebuild my laptop whenever I want to wipe it and start over
[16:47] <andyyyyy> what's a playbook?
[16:47] <andyyyyy> automatically rebuilding with all my preferred programs and libraries and settings / so that you can just resume as it was, would be cool
[16:49] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: look into ansible
[16:49] <leftyfb> it's a bit of work especially when you first get started. But once you get the hang of it, just start making a todo list of everything and pick them off 1 at a time
[16:49] <andyyyyy> I currently don't like the way the scrolling works. it's upside down. I must now ask here how to change it. if i reinstall my system and backup my photos and documents, I'll again be at the point where it scrolls the wrong way and I'll have forgotten how to change it and will have to come here again to ask
[16:50] <andyyyyy> ok, I'll look into ansible. So i shpuld use that instead of dejadup? I tihnk dejadup is what's installedchere - but not yet using it
[16:53] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: ansible will be used to reinstall all your applications, maybe rewrite your configs as opposed to just copying them from a backup. Then you can tell ansible to restore your files
[16:53] <Simplar> Can I have the link for modern GRUB themes which are compatible with Ubuntu 20.04 / 20.10 ?
[16:57] <andyyyyy> leftyfb, thx. so that's more for the system part. but for data i'd still need something else. do you recommend dejadup ? is it good?
[16:57] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: maybe. I've never used it, I wrote my own script
[17:01] <andyyyyy> i'm not good w scripts
[17:02] <Tw3ml0w> what scripts?
[17:04] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: then try out deja. I would HIGHLY recommend whatever solution(s) you go with, you test by wiping the machine and restoring. A backup is only as good as being able to restore from it
[17:59] <svm_invictvs> How do I add a custom desktop shortcut to an app in ubuntu?
[17:59] <svm_invictvs> I have a script that runs an app. I jsut want to run it w/o having to open up a terminal.
[18:06] <van777> svm_invictvs: i've googled for you, https://askubuntu.com/questions/141229/how-to-add-a-shell-script-to-launcher-as-shortcut
[18:14] <truexfan81> hi, i'm running ubuntu server 20.04.2 i have a script that was designed for installing some packages on debian 8 / ubuntu 14 i was wondering if someone could help me figure out the new package names to get what i need on 20?
[18:15] <truexfan81> old ones are: lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 libgtk2.0-0:i386 libidn11:i386 gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:i386 gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:i386 gstreamer0.10-plugins-good:i386
[18:16] <Spiney> Why not ask the author of the script?  Also, there is probably more things that will be needed in order to get the program to work now.  You could get lucky though.
[18:18] <svm_invictvs> van777 Is this something new for 2020? Becuae on my workstation at home I dont' recall having to do all that just to launch intellij
[18:19] <svm_invictvs> van777 I did find that before, and I wasn't 100% sure it was what I needed
[18:20] <van777> svm_invictvs: There is a comment "Works in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS as well"
[18:22] <van777> svm_invictvs: I've been using this too... https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1154/top-bar-script-executor/
[18:22] <leftyfb> van777: https://www.howtogeek.com/445303/how-to-create-desktop-shortcuts-on-ubuntu/
[18:23] <leftyfb> sorry, svm_invictvs ^
[18:25] <ioria> truexfan81, just replace     gstreamer0.10   with  gstreamer1.0
[18:27] <ioria> truexfan81, and lib32ncurses5 with lib32ncurses6
[18:27] <truexfan81> "unable to locate package gstreamer1.0"
[18:27] <ioria> truexfan81, nope not like that
[18:27] <ioria> truexfan81, e.g    gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:i386  with  gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:i386
[18:28] <truexfan81> i'm used to yum/dnf so i struggle with ubuntu package names i apologize
[18:28] <ioria> truexfan81, is it clear now ?
[18:28] <leftyfb> truexfan81: you really should be working with the author of the script. Especially if it's published somewhere. What is it for exactly?
[18:30] <truexfan81> "Unable to locate package gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:i386"
[18:31] <ioria> !info gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio focal
[18:31] <ioria> truexfan81, the pkg is ther : paste  : apt-cache policy gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:i386
[18:33] <truexfan81> when i installed open-vm-tools i must have missed the package to make it allow me to copy/paste from the host to the guest, etc
[18:33] <ioria> truexfan81, please , run :  'apt-cache policy gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:i386'
[18:34] <truexfan81> it gives me a 3 line output, unable to locate, the other two says Couldn't find any package by...
[18:34] <ioria> truexfan81, dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[18:36] <truexfan81> i386
[18:36] <ioria> truexfan81, then you should have the pkg; it's in main
[18:36] <truexfan81> apt doesn't like me i think
[18:37] <ioria> truexfan81, we need to see the full output  of the cmd above
[18:37] <truexfan81> it does show the 64bit version of the package is installed
[18:37] <truexfan81> it just can't find the i386
[18:38] <ioria> truexfan81, apt-cache policy gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:i386 | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:39] <truexfan81> done
[18:39] <ioria> the url please
[18:39] <truexfan81> it didn't give me one
[18:39] <ioria> truexfan81, i see; then paste output on 'paste.ubuntu.com'
[18:41] <truexfan81>  /p/WG9FMgW5rJ
[18:41] <oerheks> now we have to puzzle
[18:41] <oerheks> lolz
[18:41] <svm_invictvs> Is wgetpaste still a thing?
[18:41] <ioria> truexfan81, paste again the url
[18:41] <svm_invictvs> That was badass when I had it install
[18:41] <svm_invictvs> *installed
[18:41] <oerheks> apt-cache policy gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:i386 | nc termbin.com 9999 should have worked.
[18:42] <truexfan81> i am having to manually type everything because for some reason the vm isn't letting my copy and paste between it and my host pc
[18:43] <truexfan81> i don't have that issue tho when i run my centos 7 VMs, i must have missed something when configuring ubuntu
[18:47] <van777> truexfan81: ssh from the host pc into vm
[18:47]  * truexfan81 facepalms
[18:47] <truexfan81> why didn't i think of that?
[18:47] <van777> 😉
[18:48] <truexfan81> apt-cache policy gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:i386
[18:48] <truexfan81> N: Unable to locate package gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:i386
[18:48] <truexfan81> N: Couldn't find any package by glob 'gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio'
[18:48] <truexfan81> N: Couldn't find any package by regex 'gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio'
[18:48] <truexfan81> really? 3 lines triggers antispam?
[18:50] <ioria> truexfan81, let's see  'apt-cache policy gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio'
[18:51] <truexfan81> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FDPPryH5HP/
[18:53] <ioria> truexfan81, try to sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386  && sudo apt update
[18:54] <truexfan81> i think that's it
[18:54] <truexfan81> i forgot to apt update after doing the add-architecture
[18:54] <truexfan81> that was it
[18:55] <truexfan81> thank you
[18:55] <ioria> ok
[19:38] <Zuroger-KUB20> Hello, looks like kernel updated or something and I have to run some grub refresh right to get rid of the boot screen asking me which kernel to boot
[19:38] <Zuroger-KUB20> Forgot what it was tho.
[19:39] <Zuroger-KUB20> AFAIK don't I need to actually manually select the new kernel to be the default one?
[19:40] <svm_invictvs> Zuroger-KUB20 I think it keeps them around for a while but will always use the latest kernel. I've never had to touch it on ubuntu, tbh.
[19:41] <Zuroger-KUB20> But it's probably a minor update right, because I use an LTS release, no?
[19:41] <oerheks> yeah, it should boot automaticly, or not al all..
[19:42] <oerheks> run sudo apt install -f# to see if there are packages held back?
[19:42] <Zuroger-KUB20> The grub boot screen with a 30 sec countdown appeared.
[19:42] <oerheks> and sudo update-grub, perhaps
[19:42] <VMGuy23> that's normal for me, just select ubuntu
[19:42] <BadBoyHaloCat> why does update-grub take so long?
[19:43] <BadBoyHaloCat> i've got only 2 OSs
[19:43] <BadBoyHaloCat> ubuntu and arch
[19:43] <Zuroger-KUB20> I cloned from HDD to SSD, Clonezilla reinstalled grub on the target SSD, I'm not sure whether it was that or was it the update that caused this boot screen.
[19:44] <oerheks> Zuroger-KUB20, any more surprises?
[19:44] <Zuroger-KUB20> Yes I know just hit enter, but I don't want to wait 30 secs when I turn on the PC and do some other stuff, now the screen may be helpful but I'd only want it in case when I actually want it, like a hotkey for advanced boot.
[19:46] <oerheks> try the 2 steps i posted?
[19:51] <Zuroger-KUB20> Sure, but now I recalled I did some modifications to grub and forgot, I think I kept a log on system customizations somewhere but I kinda forgot now.
[19:52] <oerheks> We should not blame clonezilla, nor grub nor an update, but your lack of information
[19:52] <oerheks> good luck
[19:53] <Zuroger-KUB20> I did not put the boot screen there, but I did booted both the original and cloned disk which did produce weird behavior, perhaps that made grub start showing a boot screen
[19:55] <Zuroger-KUB20> Basically what was happening was, I would boot into my cloned disk, then it would show up the boot screen, then due to UUIDs most likely it started loading up the system from the HDD (because it goes slower so I know) but then that boot makes weird errors like Failure to Load Kernel Modules.
[20:01] <Zuroger-KUB20> etc/default/grub is all fine, same as I had it on the HDD, no timeout
[20:06] <andyyyyy> if i don't like the direction the scrolling goes in gnome, where do i change it?
[20:06] <andyyyyy> i.e. scrolling down should move down on the page, not up
[20:07] <eliocamp> Natural scrolling? Should be on mouse / touchpad settings.
[20:07] <andyyyyy> currently, it moves the page down, which means I'm going up in the page
[20:08] <andyyyyy> thx, eliocamp. it used to work correclty, and i didnt change anything, but after a reboot it was all inverted
[20:41] <Zuroger-KUB20> oerheks: well someone put this in grub.cfg, and it wasn't me https://pastebin.com/CAhBKNJD
[20:44] <jeremy31> Zuroger-KUB20: That is part of one of the grub config scripts
[20:48] <mrproper> I am trying to create an image using Packer based on the Ubuntu 20.04 live image but not sure what the username and password are for Packer's ssh_username and ssh_password fields.
[20:49] <Zuroger-KUB20> Well, actually I forgot to see how it looked like before I ran update-grub, so this was after update grub, then I diffed with the old one on the HDD (which clonezilla didn't touch, just read, and the one that wasn't updated to newer kernel)
[20:49] <supremekai> Hey guys, I'm trying to follow this tutorial to add SSL to my Ubuntu 20.04: https://www.vultr.com/docs/wildcard-lets-encrypt-ssl-for-one-click-lamp => but in step (3) Install SSL Certificate for Apache I do not have /etc/apache2/ssl/ folder, what am I doing wrong?
[20:50] <oerheks> mrproper, packer is not in our repos?
[20:50] <oerheks> oh it is, as snap
[20:51] <sarnold> supremekai: perhaps the guide was written with a different distribution in mind, that happens from time to time
[20:51] <mrproper> oerheks: I'm not using packer on that system locally but want to build Ubuntu using it.
[20:51] <oerheks> this sppet gives a clue: ubuntu: ubuntu  https://imagineer.in/blog/packer-build-for-ubuntu-20-04/
[20:51] <supremekai> sarnold, oh, how can I find the ssl folder of my distro? in ubuntu 20.04
[20:51] <oerheks> c/snippet
[20:51] <supremekai> or is there a default one?
[20:52] <sarnold> supremekai: /etc/ssl/private/ I believe
[20:52] <mrproper> @oerheks Thanks I'll have to take a look into it further. I've tried that and it didn't work so something else may be up.
[20:53] <oerheks> i would use cubic for live iso editting
[20:53] <Zuroger-KUB20> jeremy31: I think this is a false alarm, this is made by grub-update, it detected another Ubuntu install on my USB Sata Adapter, bah I need to do this without having that connected
[20:53] <supremekai> thnks sarnold !
[20:54] <jeremy31> Zuroger-KUB20: That would trigger the grub menu at boot
[20:55] <andyyyyy> if i can search youtube videos on my phone and have them open on the tv, then somehow the tv has a way to "listen". Can I also use that way for somehow sharing my ubuntu laptop's screen on that tv, like for watching videos or conferences?
[20:56] <Zuroger-KUB20> Thing is, it's not 10 secs, but 30 secs, the first grub-update could have gotten rid of the 30 second one that was created by simply boot process detecting 2 linuxes or something, so I'll just run the grub-update again.
[20:56] <jeremy31> Zuroger-KUB20: 30 seconds might be recordfail triggered
[20:58] <Zuroger-KUB20> Yeah, it wouldn't be surprising, but funnily it only happened on the cloned disk, the one that I updated once I finished cloning, it wouldn't boot right if I had both of them connected sharing the same partition UUIDs
[20:59] <Zuroger-KUB20> So it was weird in other ways too, booting into the cloned one in the BIOS screen would switch it over to the original one somehow, with various errors in the boot process, I thought I would have to fix those and redo the cloning wasting the whole afternoon.
[21:00] <Zuroger-KUB20> There's probably some kind of a writeup or warning in the community help/resources outthere it's not a good idea booting identical UUIDs right? So this was expected to happen. If not, perhaps it looks like a bug to be fixed if it's not suppose to happen.
[21:00] <Zuroger-KUB20> Kernel Modules would fail to load, was one of the boot issues, even tho once booted it looked and worked normal (well I didn't stay logged on for long)
[21:01] <devslash> Im using Ubuntu server 20.10. Should I be concerned that every time I log into Ubuntu, I see a message that says that there is 1 zombie process. Even after rebooting, it does not go away
[21:04] <sarnold> devslash: it's probably not a big deal; check ps auxwZ to see what proccess it is, that'll help
[21:06] <devslash> when I run that command, it lists many processes
[21:06] <devslash> how do I know which one is the zombie
[21:07] <devslash> its not like I can do ps auxwZ | grep brains
[21:08] <devslash> i grepped zombit and found a process
[21:08] <sarnold> devslash: oh sheesh, sorry :) I've got a new keyhboard.. and screwed up my input and was happy when I got that much right
[21:08] <devslash> unconfined                      root     1893283  0.0  0.0   6432  2524 pts/0    S+   14:08   0:00 grep --color=auto zombie
[21:08] <sarnold> the rest is | grep Z
[21:08] <sarnold> heh, bummer, that's the grep itself
[21:08] <Zuroger-W102> Yep, works fine now!
[21:12] <andyyyyy> how can i make ubuntu boot faster? I think ten minutes until login screen is a bit much
[21:12] <devslash> what version of ubuntu ?
[21:13] <andyyyyy> 20.10
[21:13] <devslash> have you looked at the start up tasks after logging in
[21:13] <andyyyyy> no, how?
[21:14] <devslash> window key to search then start typing start
[21:14] <andyyyyy> i think the snapd and apt slow it down most
[21:14] <devslash> i dont remember the exact name that shows up
[21:14] <andyyyyy> but that is AFTER login
[21:14] <devslash> snap sucks IMO
[21:14] <VMGuy23> andyyyyy: whats your system
[21:14] <devslash> wait
[21:14] <devslash> do you mean 10 minutes to get to the ubuntu login or 10 minutes after you log in
[21:15] <andyyyyy> found Startprogramme
[21:15] <VMGuy23> my PC is 1 second to login and 5 seconds to GNOME
[21:15] <andyyyyy> I mean 10 minutes from swtiching on or reboot, until gdm login screen
[21:15] <VMGuy23> wow
[21:16] <andyyyyy> from there, meaning after logging in, another 5 minutes while the system is kinda busy
[21:16] <VMGuy23> thats a long time
[21:16] <VMGuy23> how old is your PC?
[21:16] <VMGuy23> and what PC is it?
[21:16] <andyyyyy> so if I want to open firefox and my laptop is off, i switch it on and can use firefox only >15 minutes later
[21:16] <DocMors> press escape and see what it is doing
[21:17] <andyyyyy> it's a laptop. not the newest
[21:17] <DocMors> some process doing funny stuf probably
[21:17] <andyyyyy> using ubuntu 20.10 with encrypted zfs, if that matters
[21:17] <andyyyyy> it's a lenovo thinkpad
[21:17] <devslash> what processor does it have and how much ram
[21:18] <andyyyyy> esc on bootup gives me a black screen iwth all the things it's starting up
[21:18] <VMGuy23> I am using Ubuntu 20.10, don't know what ZFS is, on an Acer Aspire 3 bought April 2020
[21:18] <andyyyyy> many snap mountings
[21:18] <andyyyyy> many ordering cycles found and skippings
[21:18] <DocMors> no not on on boot but when it's in this waiting mode
[21:18] <VMGuy23> andyyyyy: maybe calm down on the number of snaps... see what that does
[21:18] <andyyyyy> 8GB ram, processor i dont know right now
[21:19] <VMGuy23> your exact model can tell us the processor and stuff
[21:19] <sarnold> andyyyyy: check your dmesg output for hardware failure, check smartctl if you have sata hard drives
[21:20] <andyyyyy> is there a command for excat model in temrinal?
[21:20] <sarnold> cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell us cpu
[21:20] <andyyyyy> smartctl says all disks are passing
[21:20] <andyyyyy> sarnold: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU       M 520  @ 2.40GHz
[21:21] <andyyyyy> or do you want the entire output which is two screens?
[21:21] <sarnold> no, that one line is best :D
[21:21] <sarnold> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/47341/intel-core-i5-520m-processor-3m-cache-2-40-ghz.html
[21:22] <andyyyyy> since ubuntu pushes those snaps, i thought they're good. and if find some things as snaps that i dont find with apt. so i thought snap is the preferred way nowadays
[21:23] <sarnold> 2010 cpu, I'm going to gues sit's probably booting to a harddrive rather than an ssd? that'll hurt.. but it shouldn't be ten minutes painful'
[21:23] <sarnold> andyyyyy: how's dmesg look?
[21:23] <VMGuy23> andyyyyy: Install apt version where possible. It's better than snap.
[21:23] <andyyyyy> hard drive, yes
[21:23] <devslash> andyyyyy, i think that if you ask in here, most people will tell you that they dont use snap
[21:23] <andyyyyy> VMGuy23, ok
[21:23] <devslash> ive had permission issues when using snap packages
[21:24] <andyyyyy> devslash, ok. I'll prefer apt then
[21:24] <oerheks>  It's better than snap ?
[21:25] <VMGuy23> snap has it's own mount point, harder to access config, access problems. Apt is better
[21:25] <oerheks> access problems are good available in systemsettings.
[21:25] <andyyyyy> sarnold: dmesg is a ton of text. mainly, what i could see now quickly, UFW and apparmor
[21:26] <oerheks> so, let the user have a choise, snaps are fine.
[21:26] <Skaface82> where is the correct place to run a bunch of "ipset" and "ip rule add sdhfsdfh" commands on startup?
[21:27] <sarnold> andyyyyy: are those DENIED or ALLOWED or something else?
[21:28] <oerheks> Skaface82, netplan perhaps?
[21:28] <Skaface82> i might be answering my own question, but maybe netplan can run a script post bringing the interfaces up
[21:28] <oerheks> !netplan
[21:28] <andyyyyy> sarnold: [ALLOW]
[21:28] <Skaface82> yeah thanks i dont know why i didnt think of that before now :P
[21:28] <sarnold> andyyyyy: hmm, that's probably part of it -- apparmor logging can vastly slow down a system, and complain mode profiles can consume a fair amount of kernel memory
[21:29] <sarnold> andyyyyy: what's dmesg | grep -c apparmor ?
[21:29] <andyyyyy> i need to prepend sudo
[21:30] <andyyyyy> answer is 770
[21:30] <sarnold> oww
[21:30] <andyyyyy> i suppose -c means count
[21:30] <sarnold> I can't promise that fixing your apparmor profiles will give you a useful system, but it'd help
[21:30] <sarnold> yeah
[21:31] <andyyyyy> 217779.059064] audit: type=1400 audit(1616793913.804:9842450): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="snap.raptorsnap.main" name="/sys/devices/virtual/net/lo/operstate" pid=17495 comm="dotnet" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[21:31] <andyyyyy> many of those and similar ones. no idea what raptorsnap is
[21:32] <sarnold> https://snapcraft.io/raptorsnap -- "This is the IoT.nxt Raptor 3 Edge Gateway."
[21:32] <sarnold> though the snapstore isn't loaduing for me .. sigh.
[21:34] <andyyyyy> iot? i don't have a smart home. it's just my laptop
[21:34] <oerheks> snap list
[21:34] <oerheks> or try something funny in your softwarecenter to look for raptorsnap
[21:36] <andyyyyy> but is that what casues a ten minute bootup?
[21:38] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: I'm going to go with an encrypted lvm with the other half living on a (unplugged?) external usb drive
[21:38] <oerheks> systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg
[21:38] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: mind you, encrypted lvm by itself won't be what slows things down, I run that on all my workstations. I just don't extend the volume to other drives
[21:39] <leftyfb> andyyyyy: LVM volumes and RAIDs are meant to run in a degraded mode for long periods of time.
[21:40] <andyyyyy> leftyfb, it was so slow before i added the external hd
[21:41] <andyyyyy> oerheks, where do i send the svg?
[21:45] <oerheks> imgur is free
[21:51] <andyyyyy> oerheks, imgur doesn't like svg
[22:16] <nemu_____> hey I am trying to instal tor browser onto Ubuntu 20.04 and I am having a ton of trouble
[22:17] <nemu_____> please advise me I am a noob
[22:18] <Maik> others can only help if you could be a bit more specific nemu_____
[22:18] <Maik> "a ton of trouble" isn't clear enough
[22:19] <thysaxd> how come my ubuntu doest upgrade kernel from 5.4 with sudo update and dist-upgrade
[22:20] <nemu_____> I need a link to find the tor browser launcher? I think
[22:20] <nemu_____> I thought I found it but my computer says it is useless idk
[22:21] <thysaxd> how come my ubuntu doest upgrade kernel from 5.4 with sudo update and dist-upgrade on ubuntu 20.04 . Am I assume this is an OEM-install lock or something?
[22:21] <thysaxd> *am i to assume
[22:22] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic focal | thysaxd
[22:23] <thysaxd> Bashing-om how come my laptop is using 5.8 kernel
[22:23] <thysaxd> without mainline
[22:23] <Bashing-om> !hwe | thysaxd
[22:32] <remline> thysaxd: You probably have Ubuntu 20.04 on your PC, and Ubuntu 20.10 on your laptop.
[22:33] <thysaxd> nah its 20.04 on laptop
[22:34] <sarnold> was that an upgrade from an earlier version? or perhaps installed before 20.04 was released?
[22:37] <remline> thysaxd: Ah, I see, looks like 5.8 is the hardware enablement kernel for 20.04. Do you have the linux-generic-hwe-20.04 package installed on your laptop?
[23:38] <pedrocr> I've built a locally patched version of upower and installed it, but it gets replaced by the repository version on every "apt upgrade"
[23:38] <pedrocr> how can I bump the version somehow?
[23:39] <sarnold> pedrocr: modify the debian/changelog version when you build your new version to use a larger number; you could even use an epoch by prepending a 1: but be aware that this is pretty powerful...
[23:40] <pedrocr> powerful would be nice, I've been burned so many times by this crappy upower behavior that I'm patching it manually myself
[23:42] <tomreyn> apt-mark hold upower   would also work, i'd say
[23:42] <pedrocr> tomreyn: that may be simpler
[23:42] <pedrocr> editing the changelog then makes the build fail
[23:42] <pedrocr> it's a fully tricked out package with signing and everything
[23:44] <tomreyn> you'll end up running outdated, possible insecure, software if you don't keep following the source of your package and keep patching it.
[23:44] <pedrocr> tomreyn: that doesn't work though, apt upgrade still wants to replace it
[23:44] <pedrocr> arg
[23:46] <tomreyn> does    apt-mark   showhold    list the package, though?
[23:48] <pedrocr> tomreyn: ah, dpkg -i had cleared the hold
[23:48] <pedrocr> tomreyn: and yes, I could end up unpatched, but the package is unchanged since 2019 and upstream hasn't shown particularly good decision making
[23:49] <pedrocr> I hoped ubuntu would just add the patch to its package but so far no luck
[23:49] <tomreyn> maybe it needs more praying to the flying spaghetti monster, or filing a bug report.
[23:50] <pedrocr> there's an upstream bug report where the maintainers say "I don't agree with you so won't allow the software to have that option"
[23:50] <pedrocr> and an ubuntu bug report where I've attached two possible patches that has no answer
[23:51] <tomreyn> maybe try debian, too
[23:51] <pedrocr> yeah, maybe it's time to go back
[23:52] <pedrocr> thanks for that tip, the hold is probably the best bet for now
[23:52] <tomreyn> i suggested filing against debian because the package may be 'synced' from debian (i have not checked), i.e. debian may be the upstream to ubuntu there.
[23:53] <pedrocr> could be the case too
[23:53] <pedrocr> the ubuntu bug got a reply from the packager in the changelog though
[23:54] <pedrocr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/1852911