[01:13] <truexfan81> ok one of my game server things has a binary called "gs" my question is why is it that on ubuntu 20.04.2 when i do "pkill -9 gs" xorg crashes?
[01:15] <sarnold> truexfan81: what happens if you use a kinder signal?
[01:16] <truexfan81> i'll try it and see but i'm guessing more of a delay before it crashes
[01:18] <truexfan81> ok killall works nicely
[01:19] <truexfan81> next question which package will give me libstdc++.so.5?
[01:19] <sarnold> libstdc++5: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.5
[01:25] <truexfan81> thank you
[01:25] <truexfan81> and i have found packages.ubuntu.com, and just found a package my game needs that the site can't find: libpcre.so.0
[01:33] <sarnold> truexfan81: wow, uh, that might be harder to track down.
[01:34] <sarnold> truexfan81: so.. this is fishing .. but https://abi-laboratory.pro/index.php?view=timeline&l=pcre suggests soname of 0 is 2011 timeframe
[01:34] <sarnold> 8.21
[01:35] <sarnold> truexfan81: and I don't see 8.21 on http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pcre3/ -- 8.12 is close. maybe try one of those?
[04:57] <sybariten> So what happened to the linux chan?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> sybariten: ##linux
[04:59] <sybariten> uh ok
[06:50] <shachaf> If you select "Erase entire disk" in Ubuntu, and you have multiple disks, how does it decide which one to erase?
[06:51] <shachaf> It doesn't look like it asks about it before getting to the "Install now" button.
[06:51] <shachaf> I mean in the installer.
[07:12] <EriC^^> shachaf: i'd use the "something else" option in the bottom and manually partition
[07:12] <guiverc> shachaf, I usually use 'something else' so I have full control, but some selections then provide picture where you select (via click) but I can't recall as most installs I do have only a single disk
[07:19] <foxbox> Hey all
[07:30] <shachaf> EriC^^, guiverc: But "something else" doesn't let you do disk encryption, right?
[07:31] <shachaf> We resolved the situation by disabling one of the drivers in the BIOS.
[07:31] <shachaf> But the fact that disk encryption is all-or-nothing is very frustrating.
[07:32] <guiverc> shachaf, older releases did have partition encryption (options), but it was dropped as full-disk-encryption is more secure
[07:33] <shachaf> In what sense is it more secure? Doesn't it just set up LVM inside LUKS anyway, like you'd do for a partition?
[07:37] <guiverc> my current install was a partition installation with encryption (artful/17.10; ecryptfs)
[11:06] <fmul> morning. does anybody here know how to tell pulseaudio to use an specific sink as default once and for all?
[11:07] <fmul> setting it in /etc/pulse/default.pa or ~/.config/pulse/*defalt-sink doesn't work neither does disabling the "restore per-app sink" or whatver feature
[11:36] <RonaldsMazitis> hey, I'm amazed I can't run openconnect vpn client on ubuntu without root
[11:37] <RonaldsMazitis> last time I did connect somebody hacked my account
[11:37] <RonaldsMazitis> I creted tun device, created vpnc-script myself
[11:37] <RonaldsMazitis> Failed to bind local tun device (TUNSETIFF): Device or resource busy
[11:38] <RonaldsMazitis> when openconnect -i vpn0
[11:44] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't believe I can't find vpn clients without this flaw
[12:00] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[12:00] <RonaldsMazitis> so nobody uses vpn client
[12:00] <RonaldsMazitis> I need it for work
[12:00] <RonaldsMazitis> not hiding myself on internet
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> !patience | RonaldsMazitis
[12:08] <Kexoni> hi, I have dualboot. Windows is on SSD, Ubuntu is on hard drive. Is it possible to remove SSD drive with Windows without need to reinstal Ubuntu?
[12:09] <RonaldsMazitis> Kexoni: probably
[12:10] <RonaldsMazitis> Kexoni: google first page could give answer faster
[12:11] <RonaldsMazitis> I just suspect You are using grub loader on regular hdd, so having no windows ssd would just error just if You would load windows obviously
[12:14] <Kexoni> I think that grub is on SSD
[12:14] <Kexoni> SSD is first boot device
[12:15] <RonaldsMazitis> but dude, grub is ubuntu thing
[12:16] <RonaldsMazitis> You can arrange boot devices in menu
[12:17] <EriC^^> Kexoni: are you booted into ubuntu right now?
[12:17] <Kexoni> yes I am EriC^^
[12:18] <EriC^^> Kexoni: type what does 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' give you?
[12:18] <cbreak> efi? legacy boot?
[12:18] <EriC^^> does it say no dir found, or gives a bunch of dirs back?
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:19] <Kexoni> no such file or directory, EriC^^
[12:21] <EriC^^> Kexoni: ok, it means you're using legacy, so probably grub is in the ubuntu mbr, unless you're unlucky and it's in the windows ssd, you could enter the bios and see which disk is set to boot first
[12:22] <EriC^^> Kexoni: actually type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'
[12:22] <van777> Kexoni: make a USB boot repair disk, remove whatever disk you want, and run boot repair, if it wouldn't boot. https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/
[12:24] <RonaldsMazitis> hey I just want to remind I still have to connect to vpn to do my job tasks
[12:24] <RonaldsMazitis> !patience
[12:26] <Kexoni> thanks guys
[12:26] <Kexoni> I will try to backup current Ubuntu files
[12:27] <RonaldsMazitis> I don't think You can loose files by taking out ssd
[12:27] <Kexoni> after this I will remove Windows/SSD, try repair or completely reinstall Ubuntu
[12:27] <EriC^^> Kexoni: you could install ubuntu preemptively to the hdd, run the command i gave to know its disk name to install grub to it
[12:27] <EriC^^> that way even if it turns out to be on the ssd when you remove it you'd still be able to boot into ubuntu easily
[12:28] <Kexoni> ok, just a sec
[12:34] <Kexoni> EriC^^, https://termbin.com/qob9
[12:35] <EriC^^> Kexoni: type 'sudo grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sdb'
[12:38] <Kexoni> installation finished EriC^^
[12:40] <EriC^^> Kexoni: ok, run 'sudo update-grub' for good measure and you should be good
[12:43] <Kexoni> thank you a lot EriC^^, I'll try to remove SSD later
[12:43] <RonaldsMazitis> 1 hour later
[12:44] <RonaldsMazitis> any vpn clients for ubuntu that does not run via root
[12:50] <EriC^^> Kexoni: no problem
[12:52] <EriC^^> Kexoni: if it doesnt boot ubuntu, then enter the bios and try to set the hdd first in the boot order
[12:57] <RonaldsMazitis> https://www.infradead.org/openconnect/nonroot.html
[12:58] <RonaldsMazitis> sudo -E /etc/vpnc/vpnc-script this script must be called from vpnc
[12:58] <tomreyn> !who | RonaldsMazitis
[13:02] <RonaldsMazitis> that is speaking to anyone that knows how to use vpn on ubuntu
[13:04] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: so what's your question now that you found the openconnect documentation on how to run it without root?
[13:06] <RonaldsMazitis> the tips they gave to run it without root does not work
[13:06] <RonaldsMazitis> I have tun device made, config made arguments for the terminal command
[13:06] <tomreyn> "does not work" how?
[13:08] <RonaldsMazitis> Failed to bind local tun device (TUNSETIFF): Device or resource busy
[13:09] <tomreyn> what's the commands you were running, on a pastebin if more than 2 lines, and what's the complete output you got?
[13:10] <tomreyn> and did you replace "dwmw2" from the example by the name of your user?
[13:12] <RonaldsMazitis> yeah
[13:12] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm restarting virtualmachine
[13:15] <RonaldsMazitis> openconnect -i vpn0 -s /bin/true vpn.server.
[13:17] <tomreyn> and which software and version is running on your remote vpn endpoint?
[13:18] <tomreyn> and is "Failed to bind local tun device (TUNSETIFF): Device or resource busy" the only output you get when you run the above command?
[13:20] <RonaldsMazitis> I don''t know about endpoint
[13:24] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: then how are you hoping to connect to it using a specific protocol?
[13:26] <RonaldsMazitis> I have bigger problem
[13:26] <RonaldsMazitis> there was no vboxsf group
[13:27] <RonaldsMazitis> so I can't access shared folder
[13:27] <RonaldsMazitis> even thought I created vboxsf group
[13:27] <RonaldsMazitis> and added user to it
[13:29] <cbreak> I've been using wireguard recently. That doesn't even run as root, it runs in the kernel itself :D
[13:31] <tomreyn> i think RonaldsMazitis needs to first understand that you don't normally just install any vpn software and will thus be able to tunnel your traffic through somewhere.
[13:32] <RonaldsMazitis> it works with root
[13:33] <RonaldsMazitis> but after day, my user password got changed
[13:33] <RonaldsMazitis> I changed it back but the account was messed up
[13:33] <RonaldsMazitis> I could log in by pressing on other users
[13:34] <tomreyn> that's way too imprecise to enable anyone to comment.
[13:34] <RonaldsMazitis> and writing down the name
[13:34] <RonaldsMazitis> but when I logged in, I could not use sudo with same password I logged in
[13:35] <tomreyn> also, you're reporting being hacked on a weekly or bi-weekly basis, this is hardly related to realitiy, unless you keep repeating the same mistakes, using weak passwords on internet connected services or known insecure protocols and configurations.
[13:36] <RonaldsMazitis> that was virtulbox so it was not so bad
[13:36] <RonaldsMazitis> but now I'm having problems with it too
[13:37] <RonaldsMazitis> vboxsf group is not apperently used by virtualbox
[13:37] <tomreyn> virtualbox's channel is #vbox
[13:37] <tomreyn> but oly use it if you're using their distribution
[13:38] <tomreyn> but there, too, you won't get far unless you'll share more details.
[13:41] <strk> when the GUI (Desktop) file managers connect to "network resources" (via samba) I don't see an entry in "mount" output, how can I get a mount point for those resources, to do operations from commandline ?
[13:43] <cbreak> strk: well... are they mounted?
[13:43] <cbreak> they might not be, in which case you'll not find a mountpoint
[13:43] <strk> cbreak: I don't think they are mounted
[13:44] <strk> probably the filemanager does it in some other way
[13:45] <strk> my disk is attached to the router, which allows accessing it via SMB or FTP
[13:45] <strk> what's the simplest way to mount it ?
[13:45] <strk> mount.fuse maybe ?
[13:46] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release are you running there?
[13:46] <tomreyn> do you know the smb protocol version?
[13:47] <strk> mount.cifs did it \o/
[13:48] <strk> one day I'll have to find a way to change the filesystem type on that external disk
[13:48] <strk> dunno why on earth I used ext2 :/
[14:15] <pizzaburger> Hi! Is there a workaround for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1871268
[14:47] <cbreak> strk: normally you'd use mount
[14:47] <cbreak> the mount.xxx things are helpers for internal use
[16:04] <shangul> Hello. After a full upgrade of all packages including kernel(apt upgrade), I have a huge RAM usage(2.8G out of ~4.0G) and `top` shows no high RAM usage of any process(all do fine). I also have installed some older kernels(5.4.0-39 and 5.4.0-62) and tried booting the system with them but makes no difference. I also tried disabling a few kernel modules(btrfs, xfs and jfs) which were eating more RAM
[16:04] <shangul> comparing to the other modules and still no luck. xUbuntu 20.04 is used on my laptop. Note that the RAM is not used for buffering and caching but for something else according to what "free" reports.
[16:04] <shangul> Let me know if you need any other information :)
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> shangul: dmesg could be usefull and perhaps also your dpkg logs from the time that thing started to get wrong
[16:20] <DattattaD> ping
[16:20] <Maik> DattattaD: don't
[16:21] <leftyfb> DattattaD: what can we help you with?
[16:21] <Maik> !ask | DattattaD
[16:21] <Maik> :)
[16:22] <Maik> and there's:
[16:22] <Maik> !discuss
[16:22] <Maik> DattattaD: up to you :)
[16:23] <DattattaD> ok
[16:43] <shangul> lotuspsychje: Will look into them. Thank you :)
[16:44] <tomreyn> shangul: a good start may be to just post the output of    free -h    to a pastebin and the link to that here
[16:49] <silv3r_m00n> hi there i am using Kubuntu, when i hover mouse over the taskbar, the respective windows flashes over the current window, anybody knows how to disable this ?
[16:53] <tomreyn> silv3r_m00n: for questions specific to kubuntu, please ask in #kubuntu
[16:54] <tomreyn> (and please don't cross post)
[16:55] <shangul> Output of "free -h" on my computer: https://termbin.com/z93p
[16:55] <agvantibo> Hello. Is it a good idea to write about unique solved issues here?
[16:55] <VMGuy23> tomreyn: Kubuntu is an official flavour
[16:56] <shangul> agvantibo: IMO you'd better write it in a searchable president space like a forum or wiki
[16:57] <shangul> err
[16:57] <agvantibo> Ok. Hello. Is it a good idea to crosspost about unique solved issues here?
[16:57] <shangul> wrong word "president" there. I meant somewhere which data will be kept there not IRC in which messages are lost after you disconnect unless you have a log
[16:59] <agvantibo> I mean yeah, ok. Could you recommend a place and a manner of writing it? My suggestion is Ubuntuforums, and first i describe the issue, then I describe the solution, then I mark as closed
[17:06] <shangul> agvantibo: Wait for others' respond but IMO the wiki is the best place. However the website which you wanna write such a thing in it should have a good SEO too so that people using search engines could find it easily and quickly
[17:12] <agvantibo> That is true
[17:12] <shangul> :)
[18:51] <sybariten> Wild shot here, but anyone ever seen any system tailored to copy data off CDs in an automated manner, when each one is inserted? Well DVDs too
[18:52] <Habbie> sybariten, i've done that for CDs (and also for floppies) - it's really just a few lines of shell
[18:52] <Habbie> especially convenient if your CD drive supports ejection from software
[18:53] <sybariten> Habbie:could be, yes, but it's always even better if someone else already built somehting , which is then also hopefully robust
[18:53] <Habbie> i agree, and in that case i don't know :)
[18:55] <sybariten> OK!  :-)
[18:56] <sybariten> The floppies, you couldnt eject by sofdtware i'm guessing  :)
[19:02] <Habbie> sybariten, nope!
[19:07] <sybariten> That would be futuristic, and archaic, in some paradoxal way
[19:17] <Habbie> sybariten, haha yes
[21:04] <isapgswell> gdm-x-session[992]: (II) modeset(0): Allocate new frame buffer 3840x1080 stride
[21:04] <squealingcode> Afternoon
[21:04] <isapgswell> my external monitor is connected exclusivelly to nvidia
[21:04] <isapgswell> any idea?
[21:04] <isapgswell> not intel
[21:05] <VMGuy23> whats the problem then
[21:05] <isapgswell> modeset(0) is related to intel
[21:05] <isapgswell> kms
[21:06] <VMGuy23> ah
[21:07] <VMGuy23> does the monitor work?
[21:07] <isapgswell> is like intel is trying to allocate new framebuffers to a scenario nvidia handle another output
[21:08] <isapgswell> works, lagged
[21:08] <isapgswell> a lot lag
[21:09] <isapgswell> my notebook has two output typec/hdmi
[21:09] <isapgswell> typec is displayport
[21:09] <isapgswell> but i am connected into nvidia hdmi
[21:09] <isapgswell> my profile is nvidia ondemand
[21:10] <VMGuy23> i don't know how to fix this, someone else should be with you soon.
[21:10] <isapgswell> ok, thanks
[22:16] <Febass> Hello
[22:17] <Febass> I need to ask a question: How do I give my wine system directories permissions to write to my home user desktop
[22:17] <Febass> I am trying to make a short cut of out a program I have isntalled in my program files on my wine machine
[22:19] <oerheks> a shortcut to a wine programm on your ubuntu? this page might be a helphttps://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=33554&p=126701
[22:19] <Febass> Thanks!
[22:19] <oerheks> Exec=env WINEPREFIX="/home/username/.wine" wine C:\\\\Program\\ Files\\\\whatever.exe
[22:20] <oerheks> and username can be shortened with $USER
[22:39] <Febass> oerheks: It is returning a seg fault
[22:39] <Febass> it says that the directory that I have pointing to it as path is not valid, but, it is
[22:39] <VMGuy23> try halfing the backslashes
[22:40] <Febass> The tutorial calls for forward slashes for this specific line, actually
[22:41] <VMGuy23> This is escaping spaces or other backslashes because Windows uses backslashes for paths.
[22:41] <VMGuy23> but it doesnt need to escape the escaper
[22:41] <Febass> hmmm?
[22:42] <Febass> Yeah
[22:42] <VMGuy23> so try halfing the backslashes and see if it works.
[22:42] <Febass> oh I see
[22:43] <VMGuy23> so instead of \\, you have \, and instead of \\\\, you have \\
[22:43] <Febass> Yep that did it
[22:43] <Febass> Thank you
[22:43] <VMGuy23> no problem
[23:40] <joker5bb> hello
[23:41] <joker5bb> how can i cluster the boards so the cpu on other boards that dont have the hdmi connected run a program?
[23:49] <tomreyn> joker5bb: more details needed, including how this related to ubuntu, and which ubuntu exactly.