 Could someone with an M10 HD/cooler on 16.04 do me a favour? If so olease PM me ASAP.
 @Steve Kueffer [Thank you Steven, now I realize something: Indeed, when first touching the semi- …], I think you confused the undo and redo buttons for rotate 😄
 @ddggtg0 [Lenovo TB-X606F hi, is will be work?], is that the Lenovo M10 Plus 2nd-gen? … if yes, someone started the port for that
 doubt
 I remember the model name of that tablet is something similar - 606
 eh? hmmmm
 just searched, it looks like it is indeed that tablet so good news for him I guess 😄
 UT is already installable on it although there seems to be still some issues … and Marius is still begging for the kernel sources of its Android 10 image 😆
 oh my that is good news indeed
 hmm i wonder if i'm not seeing certain changes from my keyboard pr because the version isn't bumped 🤔
 maybe you haven't updated on device? … or PR build failed?
 @Javacookies [maybe you haven't updated on device? … or PR build failed?], Pr build succeed and i've reinstalled the pr
 I can see the changes on the repo but the code on device doesn't seem to reflect those
 throw your phone out the window 😆
 Wanna try the pr? :p
 actually I can on one of my Nexus 5 … I also have a PR installed there anyway, might as well 😄
 Tis pr 128 xD
 Remember to apt install the actual layout :3
 installing pr128 isn't enough?
 Sadly not no
 Tho you can cancel when it prompts to install
 You only really need the pr's repo added
 If bottom margin is 0 its not correct
 how do I install the actual layout?
 @Javacookies [how do I install the actual layout?], `sudo apt install ubuntu-keyboard-english-flick`
 After the ubports-qa one added the repo
 you need another PR for the label in system settings 😄
 and wow, this is a huge PR … nice work 👍
 it's really overwhelming to look at but I can really see it working well once you get the hang of it
 @Javacookies [you need another PR for the label in system settings 😄], Against system settings?
 @Javacookies [it's really overwhelming to look at but I can really see it working well once yo …], Cool
 Can you send me an screenie?
 @Fuseteam [Against system settings?], yes, looks like it has a separate label list
 Was wondering about that
 Thanks for the tip
 dvorak needs a label too 😅
 Do you see an icon when you switch to the accent layout?
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/CcC2YlaN.png
 @Javacookies [dvorak needs a label too 😅], Yeah, i considering filing one for that
 @Fuseteam [Do you see an icon when you switch to the accent layout?], icon where?
 The bottom left key, if you flick up you can switch to the accent layout
 why is symbol layout has the icon of emoji?
 Because that's a bug its supposed to switch to emoji
 Speaking of which
 Hmmm well that didn't work :/
 Pr 129 should fix that but doesn't seem to do it....
 oh I see
 that's cool
 emoji shouldn't really part of the languages 😄
 Exactly hehe
 If only i could get it working
 So @javacookies can you pm me a screenshot of the accents layout?
 [Edit] Could someone with an M10 HD/cooler on 16.04 do me a favour? If so please PM me ASAP.
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/RWUVTQ36.png
 @Fuseteam [After you install it, can you send me a screenshot of the keyboard?], Looking good
[09:24] <ubptgbot> Matthew Morse was added by: Matthew Morse
[09:59] <ubptgbot> <Matthew Morse> GUYS AIRDROP CRYPTO ANNOUNCED ELLON MUSK!! WOOOW👍👍👍  https://bit.ly/2PHb9JB
 Can someone please add calsibot
 And give it admin
 or any other recaptha bot
 Yep
 [Edit] or any other recaptcha bot
 Where can i find the list of packages for the current pinephone realease ? ( i don't have a Pinephone :) )
 there ?: https://repo.ubports.com/dists/xenial_-_edge_-_pine
 [Edit] there ?: https://repo.ubports.com/dists/xenial_-_edge_-_pine/main/binary-arm64/Packages
 @LGeek [Looking good], Ooooh
 The bottom left button is a work in progress btw
[12:09] <ubptgbot> Stefan was added by: Stefan
 Team,  … Im very new to this but im very much interested in the things/features/capabilities from Ubuntu Touch. Especially like privacy concern. … I don't care what device can support Ubuntu Touch, I just want to know what hardware best suits Ubuntu Touch.   … I can try assemble the hardware and try Ubuntu Touch on it.
 @Javacookies [<reply to media>], Whats that funny lookin callander indicator icon?
[13:27] <ubptgbot> <Cab Cod> pinephone
 @Karra_Akhil_Reddy [Team,  … Im very new to this but im very much interested in the things/features/ca …], at this point its not clear what your hardware expectations are, but fwiw ubuntu touch does not work well yet on pc hardware
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Whats that funny lookin callander indicator icon?], keen eyes 😆 … anything different you see in the indicator are just things I've been experimenting with lately 😄
 @Javacookies [dvorak needs a label too 😅], [Edit] Yeah, i'm considering filing one for that
 Hey hi Tobiyo.  … With my little knowledge (apologies if im wrong) , I could understand that for different devices ubports team or someone is coding or developing ports(might be wrong technical terms). So lets say os and hardware may be loosely packed. … Im trying to assemble a mobile hardware that best suits for Ubuntu Touch. S
[13:41] <ubptgbot> o hardware and software can be tightly coupled. … Lets say like creating an iphone for ios.  … If this doesn't makes sense let me know. Will do some more ground work and get back to you.
 @Javacookies [keen eyes 😆 … anything different you see in the indicator are just things I've be …], btw where did you do that type race?
 @Karra_Akhil_Reddy [Hey hi Tobiyo.  … With my little knowledge (apologies if im wrong) , I could under …], oh that's what you mean, you want to make you're own phone. i think someone of the core team may be able to give you a better answer for that
 @Fuseteam [btw where did you do that type race?], sorry, what do you mean, type race?
 Ohh thank you. … How do I contact them.?
 @Karra_Akhil_Reddy [Hey hi Tobiyo.  … With my little knowledge (apologies if im wrong) , I could under …], I would say the important thing is that you have kernel sources for that hardware and if you want mainline kernel then drivers for those hardware
 they are here in the group, they'll probably respond later
 but yeah, you should probably contact the more knowledgeable people
 maybe in the porting group?
 @Javacookies [sorry, what do you mean, type race?], how did you get that wpm :P
 @Javacookies [maybe in the porting group?], oh hey good point
 the porting group is at @ubports_porting
 ahh, I just randomly searched for a site for wpm testing
 @Javacookies [I would say the important thing is that you have kernel sources for that hardwar …], Hi Kugi,  … Thats too technical for me.  … But thanks for reply.
 @Fuseteam [the porting group is at @ubports_porting], Thank you
 Hi Guys. I was playing with Xperia X Compact (F5321).  … It works! … The problem is that after the initial ubports flash and reboot, the screen didn't show the standard picture for the ubports update. It kept dark. Waited for a couple of minutes and the phone restarted and Ubuntu came on :) … I did that yesterday for several hours, but neve
[13:52] <ubptgbot> r waited for the minutes to pass as I thought the phone was bricked :) … Great job, guys!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/oqq3hZFo.mp4
 it seems that the recovery update screen isn't working properly on Xperia X devices … mine just shows a cropped Yumi 😅
 @TronFortyTwo [<reply to media>], i love gifs like this, no frame resets, just one continuous motion
 @Fuseteam [i love gifs like this, no frame resets, just one continuous motion], ooooops i like them too but I didn't mean to send it, i misclicked...
 oops 😂
 @TronFortyTwo [ooooops i like them too but I didn't mean to send it, i misclicked...], btw can you try to update the flick layout with `apt update` and `apt install` i worked around a bug with the emoji switch
 @TronFortyTwo [ooooops i like them too but I didn't mean to send it, i misclicked...], [Edit] btw can you try to update the flick layout with `apt update` and `apt install` i worked around a bug with the emoji switch on the bottom left
 @Karra_Akhil_Reddy [Hey hi Tobiyo.  … With my little knowledge (apologies if im wrong) , I could under …], It sounds like you want to make something like the Pine64 phone then
 @Karra_Akhil_Reddy [Hey hi Tobiyo.  … With my little knowledge (apologies if im wrong) , I could under …], Well the question you have to solve is: Which hardware has open source drivers, is suitable for mobile use (energy consumption and package size) and stays in a certain price range?
 You will find out: When it comes to modem and camera you dont have so much choices. Especially modem will give you sleepless nights.
 How to install an box?😅
 on a device running devel image, run `anbox-tool install`
 @dohbee [on a device running devel image, run anbox-tool install], devel?😅
 yes, as opposed to stable. you installed UT with ubports-installer right?
 @dohbee [yes, as opposed to stable. you installed UT with ubports-installer right?], No sir, it's a ported one still waiting for official
 @dohbee [yes, as opposed to stable. you installed UT with ubports-installer right?], Using pocophone f1
 @dohbee [on a device running devel image, run anbox-tool install], Has not anbox-tool been installed in stable rootfs since ota-16?
 @TronFortyTwo [Has not anbox-tool been installed in stable rootfs since ota-16?], yes, but it only supports a hardcoded set of devices on stable
 @dohbee [yes, but it only supports a hardcoded set of devices on stable], Oh, i see
 @TronFortyTwo [Has not anbox-tool been installed in stable rootfs since ota-16?], anbox-tool exist but it seems `halium_arm64 not supported`
 @dohbee [yes, but it only supports a hardcoded set of devices on stable], Oh
[15:45] <ubptgbot> Max Skrpka was added by: Max Skrpka
 @Fuseteam [The bottom left button is a work in progress btw], I suppose so, but basic functionality is working realy well.
[15:49] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> hello, i read about, that apps dont work in background by design, and  believe i have really "rare" question. What else apps have "life-cycle exception" ? is there anyway to give this exception to Morph
 @Max Skrpka [hello, i read about, that apps dont work in background by design, and  believe i …], find ut tweak tool in the store
 you can grant any app you want the exception
 lets users be in more control
[15:50] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> @mateosalta [find ut tweak tool in the store], is it bad idea to give this permission to apps ? will i ruin something ?
 maybe just drain battery if you leave something open ;)
[15:51] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> so if close morph
[15:51] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> it will not make any problems
[15:51] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> for battery
 but i usually only do this for some music webapps
[15:52] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> oh, btw did you try podbird ?
 @Max Skrpka [it will not make any problems], yep, close the program and good to go
[15:52] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> @mateosalta [yep, close the program and good to go], ok, thans, did you try podbird ?
 hm, one time. i wonder if uses the media hub?
[15:53] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> ok, did you have problems with adding a rss chanel ?
 dont remember
[15:55] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> is there any chance to replace Home to SD card ?
[15:55] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> or it Emmc only ?
 oh maybe it is, i dont know of many apps that use sd besides the music app
[15:57] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> ok, got it. thanks for help
[15:57] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> =)
[15:58] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> also would like to say big thanks for all developer.i tried Manjaro, Arch, Mobian, Postmarketos. I have best experience with UBports
 is fun to try all the diffrent things out :)
[16:01] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> @mateosalta [find ut tweak tool in the store], i try it, i switch on Prevent app suspension for Morph
[16:01] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> but nothing happend
[16:02] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> UBports still switch it off
 oh, yeah the phone will still do that
 @Max Skrpka [UBports still switch it off], for that you need 'active screen'
[16:05] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> i cant see any other options like this
 app in the store
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/UhIvlyDQ.png
[16:06] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> oh
[16:06] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> so screen will be switched on
[16:06] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> all time ?
 @Max Skrpka [i try it, i switch on Prevent app suspension for Morph], ah pinephone?
[16:06] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> yes
[16:06] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> pinephone
 there is a bug with crust on that
[16:06] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> 🤣
[16:07] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> ok, means will listen only downloaded musicc
 i think it ignores anything active and sleeps anayway
 bluetooth might keep it awake?
 on which channel are your?
 app suspension seems to work properly on `kernelupgrade` now
[16:09] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> nope, bluetoth doesnt help
[16:09] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> what is kernelupgrade
 aw, helps on other phones
 @Javacookies [app suspension seems to work properly on kernelupgrade now], It didn't work before?
 @PhoenixLandPirate [It didn't work before?], maybe too well ;p
 @Max Skrpka [what is kernelupgrade], it's another update channel that has a newer kernel and other fixes
 @PhoenixLandPirate [It didn't work before?], it didn't, exempting apps didn't work and also apps with secondary windows like Dekko suspends the whole app
 those seems to be fix in kernelupgrade
[16:12] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> @Javacookies [it's another update channel that has a newer kernel and other fixes], what do you mean chanel ? another image ?
 @LGeek [I suppose so, but basic functionality is working realy well.], that good news at least xD
 system settiings -> updates -> upate settings
 @mateosalta [hm, one time. i wonder if uses the media hub?], yes it does
 then 'Channels'
 just tried youtube and it still stopped on lockscreen though
[16:14] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> @mateosalta [system settiings -> updates -> upate settings], is it more unstable, because newer ?
 I think Pinephone's sleeping behavior is still different than on Android devices
 it tends to be more unstable since developments are being done on these channel
 though tbf, pinephone isn't the most stable in general
 if you don't use it as your daily driver then you can try switching to it
 wait, I think youtube just pauses when not in focus
 what's better to try? 😅
[16:16] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> ok, will wait while that changes will relocate to stable
 @PhoenixLandPirate [though tbf, pinephone isn't the most stable in general], lol teleports and the rtl character when you type
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/tZ0aK2c1.png
 rtl?
 right to left
 Yeah my emojis are on the wrong side
[16:17] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> @Javacookies [I think Pinephone's sleeping behavior is still different than on Android devices], whait, do i understand correctly, even if i switch on upgradekerne chanel, i will still need "active screen" app ?
 er left to right i mean?
 (Photo, 408x108) https://irc.ubports.com/262f1x6T.png
 ltr
 Its not as wierd on desktop
 @mateosalta [er left to right i mean?], nah arabic is right to left :P
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Yeah my emojis are on the wrong side], lol never noticed
 yeah but japanese and Russian are left to right, making it a bit wack!
 on the top when it shows typing is fun
 Doesnt it show like typing in the middle of my username or somethin
 @Max Skrpka [whait, do i understand correctly, even if i switch on upgradekerne chanel, i wil …], I'm not sure, which site do you want too use? … I can try it for you
[16:20] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> soundclound
 @Max Skrpka [whait, do i understand correctly, even if i switch on upgradekerne chanel, i wil …], technically active screen is only needed to keep the screen on
[16:25] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> Well if I need keep screen all time to listen soundcloud from browser
[16:25] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> It is not pption for me
[16:26] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> Battery on PP is tiny
 @Max Skrpka [Battery on PP is tiny], Just replace it then
[16:27] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> On what ?
[16:27] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> :)
 @Max Skrpka [Well if I need keep screen all time to listen soundcloud from browser], so what you need to make a webapp and prevent suspension on that webapp, provided it works correctly on the PP
 I'm trying out soundcloud now and it still pauses when I lock the screen
[16:28] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> I have web appeared youtube
[16:29] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> Doesn't work
 I think it's because it goes directly to deep sleep
[16:30] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> Could be
 hmmm, maybe we should add display off mode on ActiveScreen 😄
 lol
 Does the Xenial version of Seabass basically approximate Visual Studio Code? E.g. could I run Javascript code from there and run a test website in Morph Browser?
 Or is it still more just for code editing?
 Errrr I thought I sent another message just there, maybe not?
 Oh wait no I see it now, weird.
[17:47] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> @Javacookies [hmmm, maybe we should add display off mode on ActiveScreen 😄], i see, looks like "no background activity" to deep in design. positive side of this, it additional security. "What ?! you hacked me and get access to my SSH? Now look at this, mf" *looks screen*😂😀
[17:49] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> @Javacookies [hmmm, maybe we should add display off mode on ActiveScreen 😄], [Edit] i see, looks like "no background activity" to deep in design. positive side of this, it additional security. "What ?! you hacked me and get access to my SSH? Now look at this, mf" *lock screen*😂😀
 yeah, ideally audio should be handled by media hub which works in the background
 @TartanSpartan [Does the Xenial version of Seabass basically approximate Visual Studio Code? E.g …], you can now create a libertine container and run clickable on it though I never got it to work … as for testing HTML, you can put your project in the downloads folder and just open it locally on morph
[17:53] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> @Javacookies [yeah, ideally audio should be handled by media hub which works in the background], where i can find media hub
 @Max Skrpka [where i can find media hub], its a system service
 the app needs to make use of it
[17:54] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> ok, so if i will use preinstalled Music app, will it work in locked screen on PP ?
 should afaik
 unless its broken on the pp
 @Javacookies [you can now create a libertine container and run clickable on it though I never …], Hmmm will play about with that later.
 Do you use VSC on UT, Kugi?
 no
 :p
 @Max Skrpka [ok, so if i will use preinstalled Music app, will it work in locked screen on PP …], yes it should work … not sure if it does on stable though 😅
 Deffo works on my e5 :3
 it should also work on podbird iirc
 @Fuseteam [no], Haha well I may have to!
 sure to each their own xD
 My laptop has borked and I need to send it away for repairs. You know it's serious business when Seumas the pro-15.04 luddite is __contemplating to upgrade his M10 to Xenial..._
 [Edit] My laptop has borked and I need to send it away for repairs. You know it's serious business when Seumas the pro-15.04 luddite is contemplating to upgrade his M10 to Xenial
 hahaha true that
 [Edit] My laptop has borked and I need to send it away for repairs. You know it's serious business when Seumas the pro-15.04 luddite is contemplating to upgrade his M10 to Xenial...
 soon-to-be focal XD
 So I'm using two M10s (and no that doesn't mean dual wielding machine pistols XD), one Android one UT, to basically dual monitor-substitute and keep up with my remote learning.
 @just_carlod [sudo system-image-cli -v -p 0 --progress dots], I can use this to upgrade a Vivid OTA-3 device all the way to Xenial OTA-16, right?
 I will still be sad if Libreoffice won't play nice, but that consideration is secondary to studying (and whether VSC will work).
 @just_carlod [sudo system-image-cli -v -p 0 --progress dots], [Edit] I can use this command to upgrade a Vivid OTA-3 device all the way to Xenial OTA-16, right?
 uh not sure actually
 It'd better, because the laptop ain't helping the upgrade, that's for sure.
 oh you already ran it
 No sir, still participating in the online learning, so using the old version of Seabass until I get the time to upgrade it.
 ah i seem guess people have time to give you the right command xD
 Haha yes please if anyone has alternative commands for if that one doesn't work.
 (Photo, 1280x703) https://irc.ubports.com/bm2gr0zE.png just found this out
 tis slightly outdated but that snippet on the right is pretty comprehensive
 @Fuseteam [tis slightly outdated but that snippet on the right is pretty comprehensive], ooo, galaxy nexus... didnt that drop way back in canonical days?
 and the nexus 10?
 yes that's an oudated answer :P
 there's a more comphrensive answer on askubuntu appearently
 [Edit] there's a more comprehensive answer on askubuntu apparently
 but really at this point i'm more surpised we don't get more questions about those outdated devices
 [Edit] but really at this point i'm more surpised we don't get more questions about that outdated list
 not sure where they pulled that from, very old list
[19:08] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> Haahaha why podbird works on background  without any problems
 media hub :)
 is a great design feature where it is implemented and works
[19:14] <ubptgbot> <Max Skrpka> What else use media hub, does it mark somehow on repository?
 @mateosalta [not sure where they pulled that from, very old list], askubuntu a very old answer, https://askubuntu.com/questions/236276/what-hardware-does-ubuntu-touch-support
 @Max Skrpka [What else use media hub, does it mark somehow on repository?], all native media apps should be using mediahub afaik
 its webapps that aren't able of using it.......yet
[19:41] <ubptgbot> Mauro was added by: Mauro
 hi everybody! Can I install Ubuntu touch in my Xiaomi Redmi 8? Thanks a lot!!
 Xiaomi Redmi Note 8
 please checkout devices.ubuntu-touch.io
 and to think i just posted a link to askubuntu about the same question just 10 minutes ago
 Do you know if Suunto 3 Pebble White is cooperating with UT app RockWork? Nas anyone tried it?
 looks like we need more lists lol
 @AgnieszKa17 [Do you know if Suunto 3 Pebble White is cooperating with UT app RockWork? Nas an …], No, it is not a Pebble watch I guess
 Ok, so it seems it could be difficult to get it 🤔
 Is anyone using Garmin Connect?
[22:39] <ubptgbot> needsmoreverb was added by: needsmoreverb
 Hey all, anyone running Firefox Developer Edition on Mobile?
 They don't have any mobile UI builds for Ubuntu Touch
 Bummer!
 @needsmoreverb [Bummer!], Install anbox and Fdroid, get lots of browsers including Firefox lite
 @needsmoreverb [Bummer!], Seriously don't do it. I already did it for you. It is not better than Morph Browser
 lol! thanks for the heads up
 @needsmoreverb [lol! thanks for the heads up], You are welcome.
 Anyone using your phone on a US network with Ubuntu touch?
 many are including part of the core team