[00:43] <kgiii> I just bought a new laptop for testing the upcoming releases. It was such a good price that I figured I could spend that to give me some new hardware to test Lubuntu on. https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-0016-01ZM4?Item=9SIA7ABDFR1475 So, that'll go straight into the 'testing' phase for making sure Lubuntu likes modern hardware. (I do not need an extra laptop.)
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[02:07] <guiverc> kgiii, wow :)
[02:08] <kgiii> I have a pretty great 'mobile workstation' but it's a few years old now. So, this will be a more modern CPU and hardware to test on. The reality is that the price was just so good that I couldn't resist. It'll make a great Lubuntu test bed.
[02:11] <guiverc> kgiii, if you do any installs; do you understand how we use https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/ 
[02:12] <guiverc> you don't have to; you're very thoroughly testing the programs which takes a load more time than just simple installs :)
[02:13] <kgiii> I plan only on live tests, but I do know how the install tests go. I like the live testing. I try to throw an hour at it every day, sometimes more. I like the live testing roll, if that makes sense?
[02:13] <kgiii> Or 'mostly doing live tests' is more accurate.
[02:14] <guiverc> I can fully appreciate that, I can also live-test on hardware i'm not willing to install to, allowing more hardware to be used for testing...
[02:14] <kgiii> And s/roll/role/g
[02:15] <kgiii> I open everything up, test it, make sure it's doing what it should, etc... I enjoy that role. I'm more than happy to install if needed, but I like the live testing. It takes longer, but it's enjoyable.
[02:15] <guiverc> @Leokolb mostly has us covered for installs..  I'm helping there (installs) too.... Yeah I like live testing more myself..
[02:17] <kgiii> If it's needed, I can step up and do installation tests. Heck. I can even do them on bare metal and not virtual machines. So, if that is a needed service then just let me know and I'll step up to do more.
[02:21] <guiverc> bare metal wins in my experience.. it's different hardware that can have issues with calamares.  Even if bug isn't fixed; us hitting it allows us to find and provides a workaround that we can point to in support...
[02:24] <kgiii> I only really have time for one of 'em per day. I can do the live test (which takes an hour or so to do it pretty thoroughly) or I can do an installation. Sometimes I could do both. I occasionally  do a VM install after a VM live test, just to check the installer.
[02:28] <guiverc> Personally I believe the live tests are more valuable to Lubuntu; given esp. Leo, but also I do installs..  the rare odd one (particularly on hardware) though is great/beneficial as you'll have different hardware
[02:33] <kgiii> As the release is due soon, I can toss a few extra hours at testing. So, I'll check and see about doing some installs on bare metal. I have backups I can always restore, so it's just a matter of finding time.
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[03:17] <guiverc> kgiii, i was thinking about boxes you weren't actually using (what I do full disk installs onto).  if you don't have that, I wouldn't worry
[05:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] jobgenerator FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/jobgenerator/926/
[08:47] <Quasart> Hello ! I'm not sure to be in the right place, I would like to propose a Lubuntu theme improvement
[08:50] <Quasart> It's about Worldclock calendar : Week numbers in first column look like day numbers, as you can there : https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/3080387/112873765-5dff4e00-90c2-11eb-9aa3-c45bb4b7108d.png
[08:51] <Quasart> it's very misleading when I'm quickly looking for first day of week.
[08:53] <kc2bez[m]> right click on the clock -> configure world clock settings -> general tab, uncheck show week numbers. 
[08:53] <tsimonq2> Submit it upstream with LXQt, that's in their ballpark. Thanks for the suggestion though!
[08:53] <tsimonq2> Ohhh 
[08:53] <tsimonq2> Wiser than I
[08:53] <kc2bez[m]> I don't know about that 😂
[08:54] <Quasart> I could make it clear by changed background-color slightly in /usr/share/lxqt/themes/Lubuntu Arc/lxqt-panel.qss
[08:54] <Quasart> CalendarWidget QTableView {
[08:54] <Quasart>     background-color: rgb(56, 60, 74);
[08:55] <Quasart> I've contacted them already, they are changing their themes
[08:55] <Quasart> I'm talking about Lubuntu Arc theme
[08:55] <Quasart> it's un lubuntu-artwork package
[09:00] <Quasart> kc2bez[m] thank you for the tip, I prefer to keep the week numbers visible though
[09:03] <kc2bez[m]> I understand now. That change makes sense at the first look. We should probably have bug filed against lubuntu-artwork and marked as wishlist.
[21:17] <kc2bez> Sorry, I'm not too prepared for a meeting.
[21:18] <kc2bez> Working on a beta announcement right now.
[21:25] <kgiii> You need a Vice kc2bez to fill in for you when you're busy. Or a secretary to take care of the mundane tasks. If I spot a doppelganger, I'll let you know.
[21:25] <kc2bez> That sounds nice, I'd take a clone.
[21:26] <kc2bez> For the folks that have access to notes here is what I have https://notes.lubuntu.me/CH5RnBEbTGSc6MBoKAgSSA
[21:27] <kc2bez> I'll get that posted to https://lubuntu.me/blog soon.
[21:28] <kc2bez> I trust that testing is going well for folks. 
 Yes the testing is going very well inddeed
[21:30] <kgiii> Going just fine. As we are nearing release, I try to give it a full hour of testing every day. Well, there's no daily release today - yet. 
[21:30] <kc2bez> I think they just turned them back on so we may not get a new one until tomorrow.
[21:31] <kgiii> I really, really wish it had something like push notifications. I'd enable push notifications just for that - and I generally abhor all such notifications.
[21:32] <kc2bez> from -release [16:39:48] <sil2100> Ok, re-enabling daily builds and removing freeze block
[21:35] <kgiii> Hmm... Even if it just pinged select usernames in chat, that'd work.
[21:37] <kc2bez> Yeah, we need to ring the dinner bell for the testers XD
[21:40] <guiverc> beta release (notes) looks good kc2bez 
[21:40] <kc2bez> Thanks guiverc
[21:41] <kc2bez> I think we need to switch our actual release notes to Discourse to keep up with the Joneses (sorry if my humor is lost there).
[21:42] <kc2bez> Seriously though it might be the better way to go. Then we can just have a brief announcement like this beta one on the blog pointing to Discourse.
[21:44] <kc2bez> It sounds like a bunch of hoops but I think it could allow for better visibility before release.
[21:46] <guiverc> yeah reviewers/bloggers/youtubers do like something to read for beta etc...    I like the official blog, but we gotta suit the 'younger' crowd
[21:46] <kgiii> When it does get published, I'll share it elsewhere and see if it drums up any interest.
[21:50] <kc2bez> https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-21-04-hirsute-hippo-beta-testing/
[21:55] <guiverc> :)  thanks Dan / kc2bez 
[21:55] <kc2bez> Sorry for my recent absence.
[21:56] <guiverc> no need to apologize... 
[21:57] <kgiii> Are we gonna have a meeting, or does this count?
[21:57] <guiverc> i got nothing to say ; am half asleep
[21:57] <kc2bez> This works for me. 
[21:58] <kc2bez> If you have anything to add let me know.
[22:00] <guiverc> i really appreciate your testing, support work etc kgiii, always appreciative of kc2bez's work, care & management...
[22:00] <guiverc> @Leokolb is doing heaps of installs & majority of that testing
[22:01] <kc2bez> Our entire team is what makes it happen, I thank you all.
[22:01] <kgiii> https://www.linux.org/threads/the-21-04-releases-ubuntu-and-official-flavors-will-soon-be-upon-us-and-its-testing-week.33845/
[22:02] <kgiii> I tend to just do the live testing. I probably shouldn't say 'just' as it's a pretty long test that I do every day. But, I like the live testing. It's fun to go through all the apps and check things out.
[22:03] <kgiii> I'll sticky the above link for a day or two. We'll see if anyone decides they want to throw us a few extra hours.
[22:04] <guiverc> thanks kgiii , it looks good
[22:04] <kgiii> Thanks. I have no idea what kind of interest it will drum up, but we'll see.
[22:08] <kc2bez> https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1377744430527025153
[22:10] <kc2bez> https://mastodon.technology/@lubuntu/105992349914021351
[22:11] <kgiii> Man, you need some sort of automated way to post once and have it propagate to all those other sites.
[22:11] <kc2bez> Twitter and Mastodon do that.
[22:12] <kc2bez> Tweets need to be sort of short.
[22:12] <kgiii> Oh, good. WordPress will do a ton of social media sites if you install a few plugins. 
[22:13] <kgiii> I thought Twitter allowed long tweets now? (I don't actually have a Twitter account.)
[22:13] <kc2bez> They are longer but nothing like Mastodon.
[22:14] <kgiii> Ah... I don't have a Facebook account or anything like that. I just don't feel like investing the time in those things. 
[22:14] <kc2bez> I only have one more to do, the Telegram announcement. 
[22:15] <kc2bez> I think we have Facebook but I don't really Facebook it. I have limits XD
[22:20] <kc2bez> https://t.me/LubuntuOfficial/71