=== Napsterbater_ is now known as Napsterbater [00:31] What's the Deb/Ubuntu equivalent of Arch/Manjaro's base-devel package? I'm getting a meson.build:1:0: ERROR: Unknown compiler(s): ['cc', 'gcc', 'clang', 'nvc', 'pgcc', 'icc'] error. [00:32] Kraus, sounds like you're looking for build-essential [00:32] Ahhah! [00:32] LEt's try that. [00:34] Bam. That did it. Thanks, Sven_vB [00:45] glad I could help. :) === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:04] Hi all. When I boot, nginx starts. But I don't want it to start. I want the apache2 service to start instead [02:06] bobdobbs: I don'tknow if you can have both installed at once or if you need to purge nginx in order to install apache, but that's the first place to start -- getting apache installed if it isn't already [02:12] Hi there [02:12] when I run ulimit -Hn as root I see 1048576 [02:12] I am trying to increase that drastically... I have increased it in /etc/systemd/system.conf and set it high in sysctl.conf [02:13] sarnold: I usually use apache2 for webdev stuff. I must have install nginx to experiment with it at some point. [02:14] sarnold: recently I updated from 18.04 to 20.04. I'm guessing that some change in the startup scripts happened, preventing apache2 from starting as I'm used to, and starting nginx instead [02:14] l guess I could remove nginx. But I'm also kinda interested in figuring out how to control the start of services on boot [02:15] bobdobbs: systemctl enable and systemctl disable [02:18] wings: look up /proc/sys/fs/nr_open in procfs(5) [02:20] sarnold: yep, found that! :) [02:20] that has helped tremendously, but I'm still having issues with my core issue... but I don't think it's #ubuntu related now ;) [02:21] wings: ah good good ;) [02:21] if you want to help diagnose a weird issue, PM me.. [02:21] but it's a tricky one haha [02:21] pop into #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps? [02:27] huh. does sysctl vm.max_map_count affect how many files you can open? [03:42] Sooo I re-checked and all my configs are intact, all interfaces are up. But isc-dhcp just isnt doing dhcp on all interfaces like before. The dhcpd.conf is the same no change. The service file is set to read the config file but for some reason it seems like its not [03:42] Ooops wrong channel [03:43] But since I'm here.. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 and isc-dhcp stopped working [03:44] I do class b subnetting and I have one physical nic and 3 Vlans. I checked all my configs which have not changed. Now the server is only doing dhcp on the IP address of the physical card and not the vlans === popey9 is now known as popey === OEIRAS_Dois is now known as OEIRAS === StathisA_ is now known as StathisA [07:37] I'm curious, has anyone had issues with the the newer Samsung SSDs on older Ryzen B450 motherboards? [07:38] Specifically then newer NVME drives. [07:39] And causing issues on GPUs. [07:41] Yeah, the drive as ASPM issues. That might be it. [07:41] I'll try that later. Hopefully it will solve my GPU issues. [07:41] Which started when I put in the SSD. [07:54] ruedii: lets discuss in #ubuntu-discuss === denningsrogue61 is now known as denningsrogue6 === StathisA_ is now known as StathisA === denningsrogue66 is now known as denningsrogue6 [08:33] hello [08:33] any idea why even though i specify do-release-upgrade -d -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive (non interactive update) i still get prompts ? [08:34] e.g. for Configuration file '/etc/ntp.conf' [08:36] freaking internet === leeyaa12 is now known as CMD === CMD is now known as leeyaa [09:20] is it possible to install Ubuntu via online? [09:21] !mini | mihael [09:21] mihael: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [09:23] EriC^^: I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop without USB/CD, is that possible? [09:25] mihael: there's the PXE method, dont know much about it but here's a guide https://askubuntu.com/questions/339427/is-it-possible-to-install-ubuntu-through-network [09:25] mihael: if you can easily remove the hdd you could install to that from another pc as well, just an idea [09:25] thanks [09:25] no problem [09:28] hi guys, any idea why even though i specify do-release-upgrade -d -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive (non interactive update) i still get prompts ? [09:28] sorry if someone replied earlier, vpn dropped me. [09:29] when i do an ls and see a 14G is it gigbit or gigabyte [09:30] byte i guess lol [09:30] man ls? :P [09:30] sure ? [09:30] 89 [09:30] That size is in bytes [09:55] good morning all === rtudu is now known as rtud [11:30] Hello! Trying to burn an mp3 CD, but the DVD drive doesn't seem to recognize the blank CD. If I put in a CD with data it spins up and is recognized just fine. Ubuntu 20.10. Any solutions to this? Thanks! [11:42] pizzaburger, what application are you using? [11:43] summonner: just checking on the default file browser [11:45] does it give you an error or it just shows nothing? [11:45] summonner: shows nothing. Insterting a CD with data works with no issues [11:46] pizzaburger, so if you have a pizzabox with a pizza inside, and you shake it, you can feel the pizza move [11:46] but if you take the pizza out, and you shake it, you feel nothing, right? [11:46] the file manager is showing you nothing because there is nothing on the blank CD [11:47] summonner: correct, you also can feel the bottom being warm if the delivery guy was not taking his time [11:47] you have to put something on it, for it to show, just like putting a pizza into a box, then you can then feel it when you shake it [11:47] is anyone else hungry? [11:48] summonner: Super hungry. So, how do I put a pizza in the box, when the box is not recognized? [11:49] so you'll need an app that does the writing to the blank cd [11:51] in your system tools, you should have the SOFTWARE app, run that to find applications that can help you [11:54] summonner: thanks, gonna reboot and see what can be done! [11:55] summonner: Ubuntu Live doesn't seem to let me install brasero or k3b or anything [11:58] pizzaburger: what happens when you try from the terminal? [12:01] EriC: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JR4STMXsRg/ [12:03] Hi folks [12:06] Hey [12:18] hi BluesKaj [12:19] hi Maik [12:30] !info brasero [12:30] brasero (source: brasero): CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.12.2-6ubuntu1 (focal), package size 156 kB, installed size 534 kB [12:34] !info joe [12:34] joe (source: joe): user friendly full screen text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.6-1build2 (focal), package size 496 kB, installed size 2100 kB [12:36] Hi, I'm trying to copy files from a windows share mounted with CIFS to a local ZFS storage pool, the share contains over 800 instances with folders and/or filenames containing spaces, I've been wrestling with rsync (I know, not the most optimal to use on locally mounted file systems, but I like the -iv options) and --protect-args, however the examples I've found throughout the net only used the full [12:36] path incased in double-quotes with spaces escaped... I've complied a list with the offending files, with spaces escaped, to use with --files-from and even with a "while read -r BLA; do" loop, but rsync fails in both cases with invalid argument (22) -- using the while loop the script doesn't even read the whole path; I've used both "rsync -as" and "rsync -rts" in case the file ownership clashed, at no [12:36] avail [12:36] kinda getting desperate [12:37] s/complied/compiled/ [12:48] Whats the best way to play reasonable / latest good free games on linux (without wine of course)? [12:51] Intelo: check itch.io [12:52] Intelo: steam, apt, snaps [12:52] Intelo: steam's proton has pretty good results with windows-only games [12:53] lotuspsychje: will check steam. but what to write after apt/snap? [12:53] stupidfox: I use linux ubuntu so cannot play windows only games in steam. correct? [12:53] Intelo: you can if you use Steam's Proton [12:53] with steamplay/proton, yes you can, though... meh [12:53] stupidfox: how to install that? [12:54] Intelo: it comes with your Steam install by default, you just have to enable it in settings [12:54] I'd still advise you to prioritize native clients [12:56] ok thanks [13:18] Hello can't get focal fossa 20.04 to upgrade its node.js to 14 or more.. Whats going on? How can I do that? [13:30] sudo /usr/bin/python3.7 -m install numpy==1.8 [13:31] /usr/bin/python3.7: No module named install [13:32] ? [13:39] Ok, where do i have to put the a program folder i have downloaded to have the binaries available system wide? What about adding those to my path? Help please. [13:42] mrtrousers: in ~/bin , create the folder if it does not exist, and add it up to your PATH environment variable if needed. or /usr/local/bin is another option. [13:43] (PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH in .bashrc iirc to add the ~/bin/ folder) [13:57] Hello, help isntalling nodejs 14 in ubuntu 20.04 focal fossa. === jelly-home is now known as jelly [14:11] !latest | mrtrousers [14:11] mrtrousers: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [14:11] akem I added the bin folder to my path but the commands in it are not availaber..? [14:12] ubottu I need nodejs 14 [14:12] mrtrousers: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [14:13] !info nodejs [14:13] nodejs (source: nodejs): evented I/O for V8 javascript - runtime executable. In component universe, is extra. Version 10.19.0~dfsg-3ubuntu1 (focal), package size 59 kB, installed size 154 kB [14:13] mrtrousers: nodejs isn't available in Ubuntu [14:13] mrtrousers: nodejs 14 isn't available in Ubuntu [14:13] leftyb nodejs10 is available in ubuntu [14:13] mrtrousers: sorry, see my 2nd reply [14:14] And 14 can be installed, people have done before. [14:14] mrtrousers: https://computingforgeeks.com/install-node-js-14-on-ubuntu-debian-linux/ first result when I searched google for "ubuntu nodejs 14" [14:15] mrtrousers: if you know people have done it before a quick Google search is not far away [14:15] leftyfb beat me to it [14:17] Dudes I'm asking because im googling and running commands and not working. [14:17] For instance leftyb tutorial/writeup is not working.. [14:17] mrtrousers: what command are you running that isn't working? [14:18] I have some sources in my list that give error, and the command exits with this: [14:18] curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_14.x | sudo bash - [14:18] Error executing command, exiting [14:18] mrtrousers: please use pastebin and paste in everything from your terminal [14:20] leftyfb https://pastebin.com/raw/V3mwk0Uf [14:21] mrtrousers: it looks like you need to remove your gpredict-team ppa repo as that is what is currently giving you issues. (not sure if it's related) [14:21] Is the not found source breaking the command? [14:21] mrtrousers: the gpredict-team PPA hasn't been updated in 3 years. Remove it === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [14:24] mrtrousers: their script is checking for exit codes on every command they run, including "apt-get update" which is failing because of your gpredict-team PPA [14:25] mrtrousers: why do you need nodejs 14 over 10? [14:25] Ok, thinks now is working.. Its required by the software i want to install.. [14:26] https://docs.edgeimpulse.com/docs/cli-installation [14:27] my system just froze I had to reboot it [14:27] BUG: kernel NULL pointer dereference, address: 0000000000000018 [14:27] #PF: supervisor read access in kernel mode [14:27] #PF: error_code(0x0000) - not-present page [14:27] Ok, thanks leftyb, now got the right version installed.. [14:27] leftyfb [14:28] is there a bug reporting tool in Ubuntu? [14:28] as in Fedora [14:29] !bug | slidercrank [14:29] slidercrank: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [14:32] !flavors [14:32] Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours === pikapika_lunar_a is now known as pikapika [14:55] how do I change python path [14:55] for blender 2.92 [14:55] on ubuntu 18.04 [14:55] ? [14:56] it currently takes numpy from python 3.6 when version blender uses is 3.7m [14:58] how can i see where the mysql config and database files are? [15:00] de-facto: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/113983 first result on google for "mysql file locations linux" [15:02] yeah they are not there [15:02] i need to discover the setup, find out where config files are and where database files are then migrate them over to the new installation [15:05] which config file does mysql use per default? [15:06] it seems there are many possibilities in the standard setup [15:30] de-facto: what version of ubuntu? [15:30] 18.04 [15:30] de-facto: how did you install mysql-server? [15:32] de-facto: ( apt-cache policy mysql-server ) |nc termbin.com 9999 [15:32] i did not and have no clue who did it [15:32] maybe its a modified standard setup? [15:33] i cant even connect to mysql [15:33] de-facto: run the command I gave you [15:34] https://paste.debian.net/1192005/ [15:36] de-facto: mysql server is not installed from apt. How about: snap list |grep mysql [15:36] nothing [15:37] de-facto: "which mysqld" [15:38] 5.7.30-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 [15:38] de-facto: you should have got a lot more information than that [15:38] https://paste.debian.net/1192006/ [15:39] de-facto: "which mysqld" [15:39] oh, it's a package with a named version [15:39] yes its on /usr/bin/mysql from mysql-server-5.7 version 5.7.30-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 [15:39] except it looks like the version you have installed probably wasn't installed from any repo [15:40] or the repo was removed [15:40] the package name is mysql-server-5.7 not mysql-server [15:40] de-facto: you really don't have any /etc/mysql* ? [15:40] idk why [15:40] the directory is there with some files in it [15:41] :/ [15:41] de-facto: ( ls -l /etc/mysql/ ; ls -l /var/lib/mysql ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:41] https://paste.debian.net/1192007/ [15:42] de-facto: please run the commands that we ask [15:42] de-facto: you are not giving all of the information we ask for [15:43] de-facto: please post the rest of the information that was requested [15:44] in /var/lib/mysql there is debian-5.7.flag ibdata1 and mysql dir [15:45] de-facto: then please explain this: " yeah they are not there" [15:45] de-facto: both the config files and the location of the database are exactly where the link I gave you said they were [15:49] the files described in https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/113981/where-does-mysql-store-its-databases-on-debian/113983#113983 are not there neither the database is in /var/lib/mysql nor the config files /etc/my.cnf, the database files in use is in /mnt/srv/mysql instead and the config is in /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf i guess [15:51] de-facto: last I checked, /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf is within /etc/mysql/ === Napsterbater is now known as Guest31513 === Napsterbater_ is now known as Napsterbater === Scotty_Trees2 is now known as Scotty_Trees [16:24] Guys, is there any way and I mean ANY way to get a trackpad on an Asus Zephyrus G14 or any other laptop for that matter to behave like a Mac trackpad at all? Specifically the thumb rejection. I cannot believe that only Macs have a perfect trackpad after sooo many years. === ijohnson is now known as ijohnson|lunch [16:45] anyone ever tried bluetooth transfers [16:48] it seemed to ignore whatever folder was chosen for incoming files and just dropped into ~/.cache/obexd/ (I discovered via a 'locate'( [17:02] How do I print `lsb_release` output for a given arbitrary distribution? [17:05] i'm trying to use the ubuntu software center but it's telling me it's offline [17:05] realtime-neil: huh? [17:06] but i'm clearly not offline because apt is working, i just installed the latest updates using sudo apt upgrade [17:06] is the software center broken on 20.04.2 or something? [17:07] hi! on focal, what do I have to restart to make my changes to the "hosts:" line in /etc/nsswitch.conf apply? [17:07] leftyfb: e.g., on a focal host, find out what `lsb_release --all` would print on, say, groovy. [17:08] Sven_vB, usually none. but all already running processes will still use the old config [17:11] Ravage, thanks! === vlm_ is now known as vlm === holgersson is now known as installgenchu === dweeber_ is now known as dweeber === semeion is now known as mnemonic [18:10] hello all [18:11] hello rander2 [18:12] I 'm trying to install grub, I have win10 and ubuntu20.04, I booted from usb key [18:12] but when I run update-grub , it give me error [18:12] rander2: what's the problem, is it a fresh install, installed ubuntu and it just booted into windows after restarting? or..? [18:13] it boot, but only with win, I dont have ubuntu [18:14] rander2: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' in a reminal and paste the result here [18:14] *termina [18:15] rander2: are you chrooted properly before running update-grub? You might also need to grub-install before update-grub. [18:16] https://termbin.com/t2mf [18:17] # /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow' [18:18] rander2: you need to be chrooted [18:18] partition 3 and 4 have ubuntu and debian [18:19] rander2: https://askubuntu.com/a/831241/1151311 that should help you get started (don't just copy and paste it all) [18:19] gparted tell me one file system zfs, it dont write about partitions [18:22] how may I know if I have installed with EFI or without EFI ? [18:23] rander2: you've installed without uefi [18:24] there's no fat32 partition [18:24] rander2: so right now you do get grub? but there's no ubuntu? or what? [18:25] I dont know how recognize uefi or no uefi [18:26] https://termbin.com/0r4d [18:27] I'm from live usb memory [18:36] rander2: do you want ubuntu or debian to control grub? [18:37] ubuntu [18:57] Im cropping mkv files CLI with both mkvmerge and ffmpeg, but there are some files I simply cannot crop: there is no message, the terminal simply does nothing. What could be the reason? [18:58] anyone uses ubuntu 20.04 default virtualbox here? I could never use virtualbox install either ubuntu or debian, mostly some network error, virt-manager can install just fine [18:58] tried ubuntu 20.04 and debian 10 as guest os [18:58] it will fail near the end of installation, random errors [19:04] a file is named 'joe's pizza'. Here we have empty spaces but also an apostrophe. If I use three apostrophes, the command won't work. What can I use instead of '' for filename recognition? [19:04] "" won't work [19:05] "joe's pizza"? [19:05] frad: joe\'s\ pizza [19:05] "" will work fine [19:05] ^ [19:06] or if you wanted to make your life harder, you could make it 'joe'"'"'s pizza' =P [19:07] wtf? Error: The file 'joe's pizza' could not be opened for reading: open file error. [19:07] so its not a syntax error... === Teacup_ is now known as Teacup [19:07] permissions maybe? [19:08] joe's pizza must be rebranded as it does not make sense for the linuxers [19:08] space plus ' in a string? [19:08] frad: if you type 'joe' and then hit TAB, what does it print? [19:08] GCC version must be at least 9.3 for precompiled libraries, found 7.5.0 [19:08] I installed gcc-9 package [19:09] what now [19:09] ? [19:09] kvm can not bridge wifi for its guestos, virtualbox can but can not install guestos, wtf [19:09] i did not have any issue with virtualbox on 18.04 [19:16] thank you guys. It was a syntax error :) [19:17] frad: oh, where? [19:18] matsaman, say I have the same movie with the same characteristics twice, one as x265 and the other as x264. If the size is the same for both files, whould CPU consumption be higher when playing x265? [19:18] would* [19:18] Hello! My steam keeps crashing after verification complete ( [2021-04-01 21:17:42] Performing checksum verification of executable files [19:18] [2021-04-01 21:17:43] Verification complete) [19:18] and i already added i386 as architecture and reinstalled, help? [19:19] frad: it'd be higher for playing h.265 almost certainly regardless [19:19] frad: the only even it wouldn't be is if your system had _hardware_ h.265 decoding, and not h.264 [19:19] only event* it [19:19] matsaman, how do I check that? [19:19] h.265 is smaller because it's much more complicated compression [19:19] Forgot to mention the system- Almost mint new Kubuntu 20.10 [19:19] frad: check that it takes more resources to playback? [19:20] if my hardware decodes x265 [19:21] frad: I don't think that's very common so far [19:21] most mobile phones have hardware specifically for decoding h.264 for example [19:21] Librem 5 [19:21] gnUser, is that the library I have to check for for x265? [19:22] frad: no sorry, it is a phone with h264 decoding hardware [19:22] ah [19:22] ok [19:22] frad: https://www.techspot.com/article/1131-hevc-h256-enconding-playback/ says [19:23] frad: intel & amd 6th gen procs and newer, and has some gpu info also [19:24] the point is, h.265 will always be more work to playback than h.264, except theoretically on a weird system that only supports hardware-accelerated h.265 playback but not h.264 [19:24] would probably have to be a pretty underpowered system, too [19:25] I wonder if anybody's made a h.265->h.264 FUSE fs the way mp3fs works for FLAC->mp3 [19:25] then you could playback video has h.264 on mega underpowered systems even if it's stored as h.265 [19:26] might be awful buffering times =P [19:27] I see [19:27] we cannot escape the past. We evolve constantly === nuala2 is now known as nuala [19:29] I guess my schema on what has h.265 hardware support was out of date [19:29] although it's little SBCs I really want h.265 hardware support from [19:29] do you guys have any idea what kind of equipment do serious movie freaks or pirates use to compress movies to x265? [19:29] compressing frame by frame has to be really time and resources consuming [19:30] add audio to that [19:33] if you have the right hardware and ffmpeg build, it'll go much faster [19:33] mostly the right hardware [19:33] that is: a beefy GPU [19:33] i see... [19:34] but there's a reason there is such a long delay before people share things that have just aired, and an even longer delay for h.265 versions [19:34] it takes time [19:34] what I lack :DD [19:34] wait, so compressing to x264 takes less time? [19:34] for sure [19:34] same as playback [19:34] it's the same thing really [19:35] the more you know... [19:35] you're taking a complicated algorithm and running it forwards or backwards, depending on encoding or decoding (playback) [19:35] with 5 being more complicated than 4 [19:37] !help [19:37] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [19:38] nc paste....com 9999 ? [19:38] !paste [19:38] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [19:39] Command 'g++' not found, but can be installed with: [19:39] g++ is already the newest version (4:7.4.0-1ubuntu2.3). [19:39] why ubuntu can't find g++ [19:40] RonaldsMazitis: dpkg -L g++ | grep bin [19:40] RonaldsMazitis: you might need like, build-essential or something [19:40] /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ /usr/bin [19:40] [19:40] Sorry, accidentally shut off [19:41] RonaldsMazitis: /usr/bin/g++ ? [19:41] Still steam not starting on Kubuntu 20.10 ( [2021-04-01 21:40:27] Performing checksum verification of executable files [19:41] [2021-04-01 21:40:28] Verification complete ) [19:41] RonaldsMazitis: oh just the dir [19:41] /usr/bin/g++ [19:41] RonaldsMazitis: /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ might work [19:41] g++? not gcc? [19:42] I think I need both [19:42] gcc 8 9 is installed and so is g++ 8 9 [19:42] >>gcc - GNU project C and C++ compiler [19:42] they told me it is OS fault [19:43] which cc; which CC [19:44] you might well need both, but gcc/cc is for C, and g++/CC is for C++ [19:44] export CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc [19:44] export CXX=/usr/local/bin/g++ [19:44] RonaldsMazitis, whom is giving you these instructions? [19:44] "gcc" is also the name of the whole collection of compilers from GNU [19:44] make [19:44] for? [19:44] blender [19:45] blender shouldn't usually need to be compiled [19:45] RonaldsMazitis: why did you install your own gcc in /usr/local/? [19:45] by end users [19:45] I did not [19:45] RonaldsMazitis, from this? https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Building_Blender/Linux/Ubuntu [19:45] it should as there current version does not support blender-gis [19:45] yes [19:46] the build set should be sufficient, what is claimed at the top [19:47] sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/gcc gcc /usr/bin/gcc-9 90 --slave /usr/bin/g++ g++ /usr/bin/g++-9 --slave /usr/bin/gcov gcov /usr/bin/gcov-9 [19:47] update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/gcc-9 because link group gcc is broken [19:49] removed all added again [19:51] okay well, more targeted support can be found in #blender [19:52] GCC version must be at least 9.3 for precompiled libraries, found 7.5.0 [19:52] gcc --version [19:52] gcc (Ubuntu 9.3.0-11ubuntu0~18.04.1) 9.3.0 [19:52] are you grabbing the source or binaries? do you have the app installed? [19:57] do binaries need gcc [19:59] can you rephrase your question? [20:00] binaries no. they're already pre-compiled. [20:00] then why do You think I am using "make" [20:02] tar.xz is containing binaries? [20:02] from blender.org [20:02] ? [20:06] RonaldsMazitis, please follow up in #blender, this is an application issue [20:06] oh they is [20:11] RonaldsMazitis: sudo snap install blender [20:11] not into snaps yet, binary worked with the addon [20:12] RonaldsMazitis: yeah, I also hate having the ability to easily install the latest version of applications and still retain upgradability === ijohnson|lunch is now known as ijohnson [20:28] snaps can be upgraded? [20:28] I thought they'd be frozen, for ever, without the ability to change anything, stuck with all the security holes that were baked into the package at code signing time [20:28] and the only way to fix anything was to replace the whole package with a new version [20:29] aka "upgrade" [20:29] just like debs [20:30] debs don't contain everything [20:31] should the unthinkable happen, and someone discover an actual security hole in OpenSSL (just an example, we all know that lib is a paragon of security and well maintained code), updating that library alone will fix it for everything that uses it [20:43] I don't even know a way how to find out which version of OpenSSL I have (inside the snaps) [20:46] cbreak: for most snaps, grep libssl /snap/*/*/snap/manifest.yaml will work [20:46] cbreak: if someone hand-builds a snap without the tooling, you'll have to check inside the mountpoints another way [20:46] seems I have OpenSSL 1.1.1 11 Sep 2018 [20:47] according to running "strings" on the .so [20:48] those manifests are very interesting, thanks! [20:48] seems I have outdated openssl in every snap that uses it :( [20:49] hmm... no, maybe not... [20:49] cbreak: that can actually be one downside to snap. They get automatically updated with no intervention and you can't disable it without breaking some things. Only schedule it. [20:53] yeah, it's really annoying to find my matterhorn instance has had its security policy replaced with a null profile and it can't open links or images or update which channels I've read, etc === nckx is now known as Thunderbi [20:54] those of you who regularly come here to give advice and obviously know about programming and ubuntu. Do you receive a salary from ubuntu? [20:54] sarnold: I found a way to freeze it a while back. I forget how exactly. I can probably look it up again if it's useful to you [20:54] frad: this channel is run by volunteers [20:54] frad: very few here actually work for Canonical [20:54] Ubuntu knows nothing about me. I just help when I can. [20:55] neat [20:55] thanks [20:56] frad: well, I'm paid, but not paid to be *here*. I'm on the security team. [20:57] can a graphics card be connected to a notebook externally? [20:57] I've done that with MacOS... not sure if linux supports it too. [20:57] frad: yeah, "external gpu" [20:58] I've never actually seen anyone do it, but thunderbolt probably makes it decent enough [20:58] .w thunderbolt [20:58] hardware wise, you'd use thunderbolt2 or thunderbolt3, with some external PCI case [20:59] i see [20:59] frad: https://www.amazon.ca/Razer-Core-Thunderbolt3-enclosure-RC21-01310100-R3U1/dp/B07CQG2K5K [21:00] i need usbc and even then im gonna lose some performance [21:01]