[05:54] <brinzhang> hello team, I would like to using launchpad to tracing OpenStack Cybrog's the bug, feature, but I cannot add each milestones for Cyborg, anyone can give some help?
[05:54] <brinzhang> How to add the stable/* branch and master branch as it's milestones
[05:56] <brinzhang> the index for openstac-cyborg project https://launchpad.net/openstack-cyborg
[07:34] <ricotz> hello :), it seem the PPA "cleaner" is not working correctly, deleted or superseded packages/binaries are not removed, which causes the repository size to exceed its limits
[07:53] <ricotz> e.g. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[07:54] <ricotz> ilasc, hi ^ (sorry, I am aware it is a holiday)
[08:22] <ilasc> hey ricotz : no problem,  will be with you in a few minutes for this
[08:42] <ricotz> ilasc, thank you
[09:00] <ilasc> ok back here ricotz : this sounds familiar to me - I believe we do have a bug opened for it but can't remember which one, any chance you do ?
[09:06] <ricotz> ilasc, sorry, I am not aware of an existing report
[09:08] <ricotz> it seems to have start last weekend while looking at the context of http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-trunk/
[09:08] <ilasc> ricotz: yeah I'm not having much luck finding here either, could you please file a bug on this and once the more senior folks on the team are back from holiday I can ask for help in finding it and I will link your report to existing bug
[09:08] <ricotz> *content
[09:09] <ilasc> right, indeed seems that way yes
[09:10] <ricotz> ilasc, I would assume this problem creates a lot of issues soon
[09:11] <ricotz> ilasc, thank you for your time
[09:12] <ilasc> ricotz: agreed and will be looking into this today - just not sure how much I can actually help at moment though
[09:15] <ricotz> ilasc, I guess look for the script which is responsible for cleaning old packages and make sure it is running :)
[10:41] <brinzhang> ricotz: hi, did you answer my question?
[11:06] <cjwatson> ricotz: it's intentionally disabled right now due to a spam problem
[11:07] <cjwatson> ricotz: I've bumped your quota a bit
[11:30] <ricotz> cjwatson, thank you
[11:31] <ricotz> brinzhang, hi, hmm, I don't think so
[11:32] <brinzhang> ricotz: yeah, I have resolved that issue, whatever thanks
[11:33] <brinzhang> do you know how to interaction between gerrit project and launchpad?
[11:33] <brinzhang> the other words, how to create the relations between gerrit project and launchpad?
[13:31] <zyga> hello
[13:31] <zyga> I have a login.ubuntu.com SSO account but I cannot see any options to add my 2FA devices
[13:32] <zyga> but I know this is supported for a launchpad account
[13:32] <zyga> is there a way to use this or enable it on a select account
[13:41] <ilasc> hi zyga : does this help in terms setting up or have you been through it already ?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSO/2FactorAuthentication?action=show&redirect=SSO%2FFAQs%2F2FA
[13:41] <zyga> ah I see
[13:41] <zyga> thank you
[13:41] <zyga> so I need to join a launchpad group
[13:43] <zyga> I will give that a try, thank you
[13:44] <ilasc> indeed, you're welcome and we're here if that doesn't work please come back with questions
[13:45] <zyga> ilasc two comments on that
[13:46] <zyga> ilasc first, the group of 2fa enabled accounts is a public list so its' easy to see if someone doesn't have it
[13:46] <zyga> I wonder if that group should not be private
[13:47] <zyga> the second question is about why this is not enabled by default, it would be a great security benefit to many users
[15:23] <zyga> are landscape bugs tracked on https://launchpad.net/landscape?
[15:23] <zyga> cjwatson ^ (sorry for pinging former colleagues)
[15:24] <zyga> I would like to report a trivial bug in text visible inside the landscape product pages
[18:30] <sarnold> zyga: re 2fa enabled by default, I believe there are plans to make that more available; when people are employees, there's a chain of "talk with the person's manager and coworkers and verify that the person requesting 2fa token resets is the right person", but for community members, dealing with lost 2fa tokens requires just burning the account when the 2fa token is lost..
[18:31] <sarnold> zyga: so there's been efforts towards making it very easy to get backup auth codes to store away from the 2fa token, and stressing the importance of having multiple 2fa mechanisms
[18:38] <zyga-mbp> sarnold I see, that's an interesting perspective
[18:38] <zyga-mbp> sarnold I was setting up some SSO accounts for my work and I was puzzled by what controls availability of this feature
[18:38] <zyga-mbp> sarnold perhaps there is some middle ground, 2fa is fairly common now, so lack of transparency on this issue may look like simply lack of the feature in general
[18:39] <sarnold> zyga-mbp: yeah; it's documented on the wiki, but like everything else onthe wiki it's not clear if it's still relevant, and even *finding* the thing can be hard :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSO/2FactorAuthentication?action=show&redirect=SSO%2FFAQs%2F2FA
[18:40] <zyga-mbp> sarnold yeah, I was expecting to find it on login.ubuntu.com somewhere
[18:40] <zyga-mbp> I was especially puzzled because my personal, ex-canonical account has 2fa
[18:40] <zyga-mbp> but my work account does not
[18:41] <sarnold> zyga-mbp: yeah, you're not the first leaver to be surprised by this :)
[18:41] <zyga-mbp> sarnold do you know how other commonly used services do 2fa reset? like git[hl]ab or others?
[18:43] <sarnold> zyga-mbp: not well enough; I know github has some recovery codes that they strongly recommend you write down
[18:44] <sarnold> (making sure I've got 2fa and backup codes on all my services has been on my todo list for far too long)
[18:48] <zyga-mbp> sarnold thank you for looking after this!
[18:48] <zyga-mbp> I know there's a lot of thankless work behind this
[18:50] <zyga-mbp> sarnold is there any remaining difference between launchpad.net sso and login.ubuntu.com sso?
[18:50] <zyga-mbp> as in if an account is first created here or there?
[18:50] <sarnold> zyga-mbp: ah, really, it's not me, I just gave some feedback to the folks who were doing the actual work, played rubber ducky/sounding board a few times
[18:50] <sarnold> zyga-mbp: ah, sorry, no idea there
[18:51] <zyga-mbp> just curious, mainly because i have a rather old account
[18:51] <zyga-mbp> thank you :)
[18:53] <zyga-mbp> sarnold one last question tonight, how do I report landscape bugs?
[18:53] <zyga-mbp> there's a trivial text error in a tootip
[18:53] <zyga-mbp> tooltip*
[18:53] <zyga-mbp> and I wanted report that somehow
[18:53] <zyga-mbp> is landscape project on launchpad the place?
[18:58] <sarnold> zyga-mbp: yes, it is; I filed a few bugs there recently and they did eventually get some attention :)
[18:58] <zyga-mbp> sarnold pefect, thank you!