| luizfrds | hello folks, i need a CLI application that monitors the heap usage of a PID, if it can generate a graph or something to show me the actual tendency of heap usage over time would be great! | 01:01 |
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| luizfrds | thanks! | 01:04 |
| sarnold | luizfrds: why heap specifically? | 01:06 |
| luizfrds | sarnold, right now i'm using pmap to monitor the memory usage of a application that i'm working | 01:16 |
| luizfrds | and i think i may have a memory leak | 01:16 |
| Blade-Runner | By default Ubuntu/ElementaryOS configure their GRUB to use very small fonts. That really hurts my eyes. I decided to play with GRUB and increase the font size. The process is rather straight forward: or so this webp says, i can someone walk me thru the instructions? | 01:17 |
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| sarnold | luizfrds: valgrind is pretty good for tracking down memory leaks; there's also a memleak tool on https://github.com/iovisor/bcc#tools that might work for you, too; it didn't work for me jjust now, I don't klnow if it'd be easy or hard to fix.. | 01:19 |
| luizfrds | sarnold, i can see it changing over time, but as it is quite dynamic, i would like to just like to extract the main tendecy | 01:19 |
| sarnold | Blade-Runner: hah yeah I've got a 4k screen on my laptop, I basically can't read grub at all | 01:20 |
| luizfrds | sarnold, yeah, the application is quite big, i'm just trying to understand where it is leaking, as it uses external libs too | 01:20 |
| Blade-Runner | sarnold: yes i hear you | 01:23 |
| Blade-Runner | its just mostly annoying | 01:24 |
| Blade-Runner | maybe you would like this : https://vietlq.github.io/2019/09/22/make-grub-font-size-bigger/ | 01:25 |
| Blade-Runner | if it helps let me know | 01:26 |
| Blade-Runner | i'm such a nOOb i can't figure it out | 01:28 |
| luizfrds | can i get the memory usage of my application with C? | 01:32 |
| sarnold | luizfrds: well, there's a lot of different things there.. /proc/pid/maps shows all the OS-level allocations, and /proc/pid/status has some summaries of those in the various fields | 01:34 |
| sarnold | luizfrds: but an application that does a thousand malloc(1000) calls followed by a thousand free(p) calls will probably not return any memory to the OS even though it doesn't have any memory leaks | 01:35 |
| sarnold | Blade-Runner: bummer that you have to make your own font though :( I'm surprised there aren't a few more fonts already installed to pick from | 01:35 |
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| edlou | I got my eyes on all of you | 05:28 |
| matsaman | edlou: lies | 06:13 |
| maret | Hi I am trying to figure my a temperature on my Ryzen 5900/ I've run sensors-detect and it has found Family 17h thermal sensors , but when I run sensors I am not sure I am sing core tempratures only CPUTIN -> output https://paste.debian.net/1192069/ | 06:50 |
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| raj | I have sshed to a remote ubuntu server within vscode's terminal, but I can't edit root files with `sudo code somefile.conf` since I get `sudo: code: command not found` as a response. Any way I can edit the somefile.conf with root permissions? | 07:45 |
| ThinkT510 | raj: if nano is on the remote machine then you can use that | 07:58 |
| raj | so no way to use vscode then? | 07:58 |
| furycd001 | HI guys.. Anyone here ever used mpd over a local network :? I've an android device that's connected to a bluetooth speaker & has MALP installed. I cannot seem to get MALP to connect to mpd which is running on my main laptop. | 07:59 |
| furycd001 | I've entered in my laptops ip address & mpd port number, but I always get the following error >> "EtrackUriirror: failed to connect" | 07:59 |
| ThinkT510 | raj: by ssh'ing to the remote machine any command you run from the ssh session would be using whatever is on the remote machine | 07:59 |
| furycd001 | Here's my mpd.conf >| https://termbin.com/bsa8m.Anyone able to help :? Thanks.... | 07:59 |
| furycd001 | Here's my mpd.conf >| https://termbin.com/bsa8m. | 07:59 |
| raj | hmm, ok | 08:01 |
| raj | ThinkT510, can you make any sense of this answer https://stackoverflow.com/a/61826459/997624 ? | 08:01 |
| ThinkT510 | raj: sorry, I don't use vscode and I don't really do a lot with ssh | 08:04 |
| raj | oh gotcha | 08:04 |
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| maret | Hi I am trying to figure my a temperature on my Ryzen 5900/ I've run sensors-detect and it has found Family 17h thermal sensors , but when I run sensors I am not sure I am sing core tempratures only CPUTIN -> output https://paste.debian.net/1192069/ | 09:59 |
| cbreak | I'm not sure if current ubuntu supports ryzen5xxx well already | 10:00 |
| cbreak | 21.04 hopefully will | 10:02 |
| cbreak | I get a ton of errors when booting because of the lack of support :( | 10:03 |
| cbreak | and in addition to sensors not working on the CPU, edac-util also doesn't work | 10:03 |
| maret | cbreak: really? there was some update related to Ryzden for 5.11 kernel which I've updated to | 10:04 |
| maret | and I though that sensors detected finding Family 17th sensor is good sign | 10:04 |
| cbreak | I'm on the latest ubuntu, and it has kernel 5.8.something | 10:05 |
| cbreak | which doesn't seem to support it well | 10:05 |
| cbreak | I also had k10temp found, but the only line it emits is temp1: +0.0 C (high = +70.0 C) | 10:05 |
| cbreak | and I don't think that's realistic | 10:06 |
| maret | hh | 10:06 |
| maret | seems like i have to wait for 5.12 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Zen-3-Desktop-CPU-k10temp | 10:08 |
| cbreak | seems 21.04 will ship with 5.11 :( | 10:10 |
| cbreak | at least if I parse https://packages.ubuntu.com/hirsute/kernel/ correctly | 10:11 |
| maret | do you think it's such a risk to upgrade? normally I don't do it , but this will be exception. | 10:12 |
| cbreak | I'm not that much of a linux pro... | 10:13 |
| maret | i see, upgrading kernel is simple enough although not sure what are risks | 10:13 |
| lotuspsychje | maret: ryzen machines often benefit higher kernels, could be good idea to run latest ubuntu releases | 10:18 |
| lotuspsychje | in some cases users are using !mainline kernels for temporary fixes too | 10:18 |
| maret | yeah I went with 5.11 for ryzen, so far no problems | 10:28 |
| maret | how risky are they these days? there is an older thread about it https://askubuntu.com/questions/162616/should-i-upgrade-to-the-mainline-kernels | 10:29 |
| lotuspsychje | maret: mainline kernels are not risky, but they arent used for daily use, its for temporary issues/cases | 10:31 |
| lotuspsychje | maret: we strongly advice to use the kernels/HWE available in your apt cache on your specific ubuntu release | 10:31 |
| maret | yeah i went with 5.11 because of extra speed boost which it supposed to bring and thinking about 5.12 for temperature measurement, right now I can make it work | 10:34 |
| maret | i have long running intenstive processes and I want to check what are temperatures | 10:34 |
| lotuspsychje | maret: come to #ubuntu-discuss plz got a link for you | 10:39 |
| maret | thats sounds creepy! right there... | 10:39 |
| JohnnyonFlame | hello. I'm trying to install libopusfile0 for both arm64 and armhf variants, but it seems that multiarch support on them is broken, since it forces me to remove the previously installed package. How do I go about debugging and reporting this issue? | 10:48 |
| JohnnyonFlame | I'm on XUbuntu 20.04 currently | 10:49 |
| lotuspsychje | JohnnyonFlame: i see a bug #1883753 is that your case? | 10:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1883753 in opusfile (Ubuntu) "The 64-bit and 32-bit packages conflict" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1883753 | 10:59 |
| JohnnyonFlame | lotuspsychje: precisely | 11:00 |
| lotuspsychje | affect to the bug if its your case, so this will help accelerating the bug solving | 11:01 |
| JohnnyonFlame | alrite, done, thanks | 11:06 |
| lotuspsychje | JohnnyonFlame: the bug has now been auto confirmed, feel also free to make a new comment on your case/story/apt output | 11:07 |
| noor2 | how do i change a file attribute so that it can only be added to that file and not overwritten | 11:47 |
| tomreyn | noor2: you don't give permissions tochange it to anyone or anything who or which shouldn't have it. | 11:50 |
| noor2 | yh but they need to be able to write to that file but not change anything | 11:51 |
| noor2 | if i use write they can write to it so how do i make it so they cant over write it | 11:52 |
| tomreyn | only the owner and root can change permissions ona file | 11:54 |
| tomreyn | so if you grant write permissions through group ownership, you can prevent group members from changing permissions | 11:55 |
| tomreyn | (...and still enable them to write to the file) | 11:55 |
| tomreyn | i hope that's actually correct, i'm only 90% sure | 11:56 |
| noor2 | so if i change the permission for both user and group to write would they be able to overwrite the file? | 11:59 |
| tomreyn | the files' owner will be, the files' group (members) wont be | 12:00 |
| tomreyn | oh overwrite the file, yes | 12:00 |
| tomreyn | they will both be able to | 12:00 |
| tomreyn | the files' owner will be able to change permissions on the file, the files' group (members) wont be | 12:01 |
| noor2 | ok so how do i make it so they cant overwrite it, still new to linux, still figuring stuff out | 12:03 |
| tomreyn | either you're changing the question, asking different questions, or i'm just failing to follow | 12:04 |
| tomreyn | only root, and those granted +w permission on a file can overwrite it | 12:05 |
| tomreyn | the "stat" command may make it easier to understand permissions set on a file than just 'ls -l' initially | 12:06 |
| alterjsive | where can I read something about the canonical organisition/company? Who runs it? Filisofy etc. | 12:07 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:07 |
| tomreyn | alterjsive: on canonical.com, i would think. probably also on wikipedia. | 12:08 |
| alterjsive | tomreyn: I checked the site nothing, will check wikipedia | 12:08 |
| alterjsive | tomreyn: just checking if canonical is not evil | 12:09 |
| alterjsive | =) | 12:09 |
| ace_me1 | every man "WHATEVER" should contain at first 1-3 examples of simple usage | 12:09 |
| alterjsive | probably not :) | 12:10 |
| alterjsive | I really like what i've seen so far, just double checking. | 12:12 |
| tomreyn | alterjsive: certainly Canonical is the driving factor behind Ubuntu, but this channel is just about Ubuntu support Q&A. there are several others, such as #ubuntu-discuss | 12:14 |
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| alterjsive | ok thanks | 12:32 |
| rapid16 | When I've edited /etc/hosts do I need to restart the system? | 13:15 |
| cbreak | no | 13:19 |
| toffo | waveform: alright, I got the LibreOffice issue solved on 20.10/RPi4B! :) I purged libreoffice*, made sure I had only the ports.ubuntu.com deb sources in use and added the [arch=arm64] in between to be sure, reinstalled and it twerked! Dunno where in the hell the problem originated from, could be residues from 20.04 or something like that | 13:37 |
| toffo | waveform: now it works. happy easter! :o) | 13:37 |
| CQ | hello, in a shell if I have redirected stdout to a file, how can I stop the redirection and redirect back to the console? | 13:38 |
| unixbsd | hello | 13:57 |
| unixbsd | I have a vmlinuz ready to be started using grub2. | 13:57 |
| unixbsd | how to loopback (loop) ubuntu with a kernel : 5.8.0-25-generic/ i.e. /boot/vmlinuz-5.8.0-25-generic that is located on the file image (squashfs) ? | 13:58 |
| fletch8527 | Hello all, hoping that I didn't really screw something up. I was upgrading my 18.04lts to 20.04lts and it got to a part that said the nanorc file has modified and if I wanted to keep or replace it. I select the option to see the differences and got to the end of the file but pressed CTRL-X thinking it would return me to the prompt to continue the | 14:00 |
| fletch8527 | upgrade but it seems that it took me out of the upgrade all together `command terminated with single 2` . Im not very experienced with linux (enough to be dangerous it seems). When I press enter I get prompted to resurrect or destroy. When I select R it looks like its starting the upgrade over but says that another package manager is still running. | 14:00 |
| fletch8527 | Is there a way to get back into the upgrade? This is Ubuntu Server (no GUI) and I started the upgrade by running `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` | 14:00 |
| kur1j | does anyone have an Ubuntu 16.04 box that they can run "curl https://www.pgadmin.org/static/packages_pgadmin_org.pub" and see if that works without a cert error? | 14:17 |
| kur1j | ive updated all my certs on the system with `sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates` and `sudo update-ca-certificates` but it keeps complaining that the cert is invalid | 14:18 |
| fletch8527 | I resolved my issue | 14:21 |
| troozers | Am just testing 21.04 Beta on a VM, and first time using ZFS; am getting an "unknown filesystem" error when running update-grub. Is this a known issue with ZFS and update-grub, or just an "issue to be fixed" associated with the beta? | 14:24 |
| troozers | Am not encrypting the disks in any way | 14:25 |
| EriC^^ | troozers: can you pastebin the output? | 14:29 |
| EriC^^ | troozers: pastebin 'sudo parted -ls; sudo update-grub' | 14:30 |
| troozers | EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/hyGxfHbf | 14:32 |
| [itchyjunk] | This might be a silly question. I am looking for the menus on top for an application like "file" "edit" etc. My greater goal is to find "reader mode on" for "brave" browser. I'm on a ubuntu 18.04. I might just be following the instructions wrong but i wasn't able to find this option anywhere and am wondering if it even exists . | 15:01 |
| [itchyjunk] | Never mind, it doesn't exist for non windows version according to comments i found on google :| | 15:02 |
| relipse | How can i catch mail being sent out instead of actually sending it | 15:27 |
| leftyfb | relipse: I think your question is unrelated to Ubuntu support. You should try maybe #ubuntu-server though. I do question why you want to do this. Most MTA's allow you to do delegation or rules and are pretty well documented. | 15:34 |
| relipse | i'm on a dev machine and I just want to see the mail being sent | 15:34 |
| relipse | like how fakesmtp works | 15:34 |
| dhunt | relipse: would something like https://github.com/gessnerfl/fake-smtp-server cover your needs? | 15:40 |
| relipse | Tried but getting $ java -jar fake-smtp-server-1.7.1.jar | 15:42 |
| relipse | Error: Invalid or corrupt jarfile fake-smtp-server-1.7.1.jar | 15:42 |
| Ravage | then it probably is | 15:44 |
| leftyfb | relipse: look at logs? | 15:45 |
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| tobiasBora | Hello, I'd like to know, in 20.04 is there a simple way to display battery notification on low battery (xubuntu) | 16:02 |
| m0ph1ng | Side note - is xubuntu included for discussion here or does it have it's own channel? | 16:02 |
| m0ph1ng | its* | 16:03 |
| tobiasBora | Ok, I found something in power management that displays the amount of battery that is left... Let's wait to see if it adds the notificaiton | 16:03 |
| tobiasBora | also, xubuntu has no volume icon on the systray... | 16:05 |
| hmw[at] | I have a nasty PC which seems not to like getting installed. I successfully installed an Ubuntu instance before, removed it again, installed Windows 7 and now I want to add Ubuntu, but I can't get past the partition screen. I have little knowledge of UEFI. How can I debug it? | 16:08 |
| Maik | hmw[at]: doesn't make sense since Windows 7 never used UEFI, besides that Windows 7 is EOL. | 16:10 |
| tomreyn | tobiasBora: there's a dedicated channel for xubuntu specific things, such as the graphical desktop, if you like: #xubuntu | 16:10 |
| hmw[at] | I know about W7 of course (it will not be networked). This PC is nasty, I can get it to boot only every so many attempts | 16:11 |
| tobiasBora | tomreyn: ok thanks | 16:11 |
| hmw[at] | The BIOS is a little meh | 16:11 |
| hmw[at] | It could be crashing, when it tries to install GRUB, formatting the ext4 seems to work, but I don't see anything usefiul in the journal | 16:12 |
| hmw[at] | I ran the installer from the terminal too, no output whatsoever | 16:12 |
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| Accord | hey, I have some bluetooth issues, can anyone suggest any troubleshooting tips please? I've just done a system restart and this is my bluetoothctl output : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7Jppnz5KcF/ | 17:45 |
| techie | hello, for the last three days, there have been issues regarding the turkish ubuntu archive mirrors. apt doesn't work, and i tried pinging "tr.archive.ubuntu.com" but it gives the error "temporary failure in name resolution". also i would like to specify that i can download apt packages via the main server without issues. thank you all for your | 18:01 |
| techie | time | 18:01 |
| jpmh | running a new ubuntu 20.4 install - when I do ssh -V it tells me: OpenSSH_8.2p1 Ubuntu-4ubuntu0.2, OpenSSL 1.1.1f 31 Mar 2020 - this is NOT the latest and my system is supposedly up-to-date - what am I missing here | 18:25 |
| cbreak | jpmh: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/openssh-client | 18:36 |
| cbreak | 8.2p1-4ubuntu0.2 seems to be what is available to 20.04 | 18:36 |
| leftyfb | !latest | jpmh | 18:37 |
| ubottu | jpmh: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. | 18:37 |
| jpmh | cbreak: I'm missing something here - if I do a apt install ssh-client it tells me that it has installed a newer openssh-client - but I do not see that anywwhere | 18:38 |
| jpmh | cbreak: so I do have that version - it is just that I can not enter that name at the command line and if I just do ssh then I get the older one | 18:39 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: please pastebin the following: apt-cache policy openssh-client openssh-server | 18:40 |
| cbreak | jpmh: type `which ssh` and compare that with the output of `dpgk -L openssh-client` | 18:41 |
| cbreak | dpkg | 18:41 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: the server and client should both be 8.2p1-4ubuntu0.2 on Ubuntu 20.04. No other version is officially supported | 18:42 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: btw, you can just install "ssh" which will give you both the server and client | 18:42 |
| leftyfb | and the client is always installed by default anyway | 18:42 |
| jpmh | leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZHj4b2msqX/ | 18:47 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: ok, you have the latest version of openssh-server and openssh-client available to Ubuntu 20.04. What is the issue? | 18:48 |
| jpmh | leftyfb: the which of course shows /usr/bin/ssh | 18:48 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: ok, that's fine. Is there still an issue? | 18:49 |
| jpmh | leftyfb: what I am missing here is why the ssh that is there is NOT the one that apt seems to get | 18:49 |
| jpmh | leftyfb: yes - the issue is that when I use ssh -V I see one that is a year out of date | 18:49 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: I don't understand where you are getting that | 18:49 |
| jpmh | leftyfb: getting what? | 18:50 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: you're "ssh -V" shows version OpenSSH_8.2p1 right? | 18:50 |
| leftyfb | well, more specifically: "OpenSSH_8.2p1 Ubuntu-4ubuntu0.2" | 18:51 |
| jpmh | leftyfb: YES - but the date is a year old - I thought that there were MUCH newer versions | 18:51 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: not in the Ubuntu 20.04 repos there aren't | 18:52 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: The date says March 2020. 1 month before Ubuntu 20.04 was released | 18:52 |
| jpmh | leftyfb: TY so much - I especially appreciate your patience | 18:52 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: if you are concerned about security patches, those get rolled in as part of the -XubuntuX.X releases | 18:55 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: you can look at the changelog by running: apt-get changelog ssh | 18:55 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: you'll notice there was a security update last month | 18:55 |
| jpmh | leftyfb: that is exactly what I was concerned about _ I remembered a patch from ast month, yet the ssh -V shows a date from last year - what am I missing here? | 18:57 |
| leftyfb | The date can basically be ignored. That is the date from the Debian package at the time it was imported into the 20.04 repo from Debian. I don’t think it gets updated when Ubuntu updates the package separately | 19:00 |
| jpmh | leftyfb: again - ty so much - and I really appreciate the patient - that date is what confused me and on our other OS's we do see a newerr date | 19:03 |
| leftyfb | jpmh: were your other Linux distro’s released in the last year or are they rolling releases? | 19:05 |
| PeGaSuS | hi guys. so I've updated my Ubuntu instance to 21.04 and while updating, this appeared: https://imgur.com/a/eV4hSF8 | 19:11 |
| PeGaSuS | I've answered "Yes", though. I'm wondering from where the "irc" user comes from though | 19:13 |
| EriC^^ | PeGaSuS: looks like it's from the irc daemon | 19:14 |
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| leftyfb | PeGaSuS: Ubuntu 21.04 is not released yet | 19:16 |
| leftyfb | !ubuntu+1 | PeGaSuS | 19:16 |
| ubottu | PeGaSuS: Hirsute Hippo is the codename for Ubuntu 21.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu+1. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. | 19:16 |
| imrjd | hi folks | 19:19 |
| imrjd | i want to upgrade libre office to latest version thats 7.1.x branch, i am on ubuntu 20.04 LTS | 19:20 |
| leftyfb | imrjd: remove libreoffice and run: sudo snap install libreoffice | 19:23 |
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| imrjd | tnx | 19:29 |
| nuala | for the sake of all the bunnies: i just can't make sense of top/htops memory counting, free is kinda my fallback. | 19:35 |
| nuala | so: any offhand onliner/htop magic how to group processes, x->y spelled: how to find memory footprint by related processes: e.g. /usr/lib/firefox | 19:36 |
| nuala | ? | 19:36 |
| sarnold | nuala: I don't recall seeing anything to do that, no :/ it would be nice to have | 19:38 |
| nuala | i just experimented with htop: pressing `H` for grouping and then F4 for filter 'firef' and flexing some mindgames/mental arithmetics… | 19:41 |
| nuala | (still not sure what MEM% mean, is it really like percentage of total memory available hardware wise 🤔 | 19:43 |
| sarnold | yeah | 19:43 |
| maret | How worried should I be about ext 4 lazy initialisation ? I formated external USB HDD , 14 TB using mkfs.ext4 -m 0 -T largefile4 and I am worried if its misbehaves when plugged into RP4 | 19:50 |
| kk4ewt | 14TB?? | 19:51 |
| sarnold | maret: skimming the mkfs.ext4 manpage for info on the lazyness, it feels like a fine thing to do -- you'll pay the initiailization price for the table on mount, no big deal there, and the risks to the journal feels like it's only important in the first few minute / hours / days o the filesystem -- when it'd presumably be pretty easy to start over again if necessary | 19:54 |
| maret | and how it plays out , so I format the disk with lazy and start using it, it is initializing while I am using it? I am asking because right now I copying some stuff to it and I want to plug it into RP4 so I worry it will miss behave there | 19:56 |
| sarnold | ah, I wouldn't unplug it right away :) | 19:57 |
| kk4ewt | i would format on the rpi4 myself | 19:57 |
| maret | sarnold: yeah actually it just happens that it is plugged to original machine for a few days before being moved to RP4 | 19:58 |
| sarnold | I would expect vmstat 1 or iostat 1 to show you the IO traffic, and I wouldn't sync ; umount until there's no more IO traffic to the drive | 19:58 |
| maret | any other way how to figure out if it was initiliazed? I am asking because now I am copying some stuff so iostat will rightly show me some activity | 19:59 |
| dTal | I have an odd problem - my keyboard doesn't work in programs under GNOME3 | 20:00 |
| dTal | I can type into the search bar, and the keyboard works perfectly well in a VT, but I can't enter text into Firefox or Terminal | 20:01 |
| sarnold | hmm, nothing reliable comes to mind; you could probably get perf or bcc tools to report when the kernel internal functions are called, etc, but I don't know offhand what those are, or if there'd be something called in a tight enough loop to be visible | 20:01 |
| dTal | one thing I notice is that when I hit keys in a terminal, the cursor pauses blinking while I type - as if I'm entering nonprintable characters | 20:01 |
| dTal | for context, this is on an X1 Tablet Gen 3 2-in-1, booted to the latest Ubuntu liveusb | 20:02 |
| sarnold | dTal: any chance you can run dmesg or journalctl in there? | 20:05 |
| dTal | Sure, what should I look for? | 20:05 |
| dTal | I'm not sure what I'd find that's relevant there, however, since the keyboard obviously works perfectly well at the kernel level | 20:05 |
| maret | sarnold: ok so if I run iostat -y 1 1 /dev/sda and I dont see anything there only 00 it means that the drive is initliazed? | 20:06 |
| sarnold | maret: I'd run it for ten seconds or so | 20:08 |
| sarnold | dTal: I'm not sure either, just hoping something stands out :/ | 20:08 |
| maret | ok thanks | 20:08 |
| maret | sarnold: just to double check the ext4 is initialising while you are using the disk with lazy on right? | 20:10 |
| dTal | Also worth noting is the problem is the same when using the onscreen keyboard | 20:10 |
| sarnold | maret: that's my expectation, yes | 20:12 |
| amazoniantoad | Scrolling has suddenly stopped with my mouse I'm using ubuntu 20.04 | 20:14 |
| amazoniantoad | Can someone help me fix this? | 20:14 |
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| hwpplayer1 | hi people! | 20:49 |
| Maik | hwpplayer1: hi there, need any assistance with something? | 20:52 |
| hwpplayer1 | Maik We run Ubuntu 18.04 server but I can not get updates | 20:55 |
| hwpplayer1 | I am gonna test 19.04 | 20:56 |
| hwpplayer1 | But I can get updates for 20.04 server on Google Cloud Platform | 20:58 |
| cbreak | hwpplayer1: what do you mean with "no updates"? | 21:00 |
| cbreak | 18.04 should be LTS, just like 20.04 | 21:00 |
| cbreak | so you're supposed to get updates for years, security wise | 21:00 |
| hwpplayer1 | cbreak okay | 21:02 |
| cbreak | https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle | 21:03 |
| hwpplayer1 | cbreak: yep i know | 21:10 |
| hwpplayer1 | This is a playground server | 21:10 |
| hwpplayer1 | cbreak Maik Now it works | 21:16 |
| Maik | <hwpplayer1> I am gonna test 19.04 --> 19.04 is EOL | 21:20 |
| hwpplayer1 | Now I run 18.04 | 21:21 |
| hwpplayer1 | I will full upgrade to 20.04 | 21:21 |
| hwpplayer1 | I reboot the vm | 21:22 |
| phinxy | I've put in bashrc to swap ESC to CAPS but after a couple of hours its reset to caps being caps. | 21:33 |
| dTal | phinxy: when you say "it's reset" do you mean your bashrc has been reverted? | 21:39 |
| dTal | The bashrc will only affect newly spawned bash processes. Are you sure you're not using a terminal that you launched before you made that change? | 21:41 |
| Peng_ | What to do if ddebs.ubuntu.com is missing symbols for the latest version of a package? Is there some other, more difficult place to find them? (e.g. somewhere in the build logs on Launchpad)? | 21:46 |
| Peng_ | (specifically irssi) | 21:46 |
| Peng_ | (on focal) | 21:46 |
| sarnold | hey Peng :) that's the craziest thing, I wonder why that release don't have them | 21:57 |
| amazoniantoad | Scrolling has suddenly stopped with my mouse I'm using ubuntu 20.04 | 21:58 |
| amazoniantoad | Can someone help me fix this? | 21:58 |
| dTal | in here? unlikely, looking at the scrollback | 21:59 |
| sarnold | dTal: lol :) | 21:59 |
| dTal | my keyboard doesn't even work in the latest liveusb | 22:00 |
| shailangsa | does anybody know if its possible to automatically install all dependencies of a package when using apt-get, as it keeps showing "Depends: libboost-python1.71-dev but it is not going to be installed" ? | 22:01 |
| sarnold | shailangsa: pastebin the command you ran and the entire error message and maybe someone can suggest what to do to unbreak your apt | 22:01 |
| Peng | sarnold: If they thought it would never crash, they were too optimistic. :) | 22:03 |
| phinxy | dTal: well, the shellscript line is: `setxkbmap -option caps:escape` and it affects what the key does everywhere, even in Firefox browser the capslock is esc. | 22:03 |
| shailangsa | https://pastebin.com/3iRW7WG6 | 22:03 |
| dTal | phinxy: bashrc seems like the wrong place for that, you don't want it to run every time you launch a terminal | 22:04 |
| sarnold | shailangsa: okay, try apt install libboost-python1.71-dev | 22:04 |
| phinxy | The problem seems to be some daemon resetting the keyboard map | 22:06 |
| shailangsa | it then gives me "The following packages have unmet dependencies. | 22:06 |
| shailangsa | libboost-python1.71-dev : Depends: python3-dev but it is not going to be installed" and it goes on same with the next dependency? | 22:06 |
| sarnold | shailangsa: yup, keep that up until you get to something that looks like the root of the problem | 22:07 |
| phinxy | Does the keyboard map have anything to do with the WM? I'm on Fluxbox | 22:07 |
| hggdh | shailangsa: did you run 'sudo apt update' before trying to install the packages? | 22:07 |
| sarnold | phinxy: wait, where did you stuff that setxkbmap command? doublecheck where you put it.. | 22:08 |
| shailangsa | after running "sudo apt update" it's still missing the mentioned dependencies, is it possible to auto install the dependencies? | 22:09 |
| phinxy | sarnold: I've tried in the top line of .profile, .bashrc and also .xinitrc | 22:09 |
| phinxy | after the computer boots the keyboard map is correct but after a while due to some reason the mapping is reset | 22:09 |
| sarnold | phinxy: .xinitrc or .xsession make sense; .bashrc and .profile do not | 22:09 |
| sarnold | shailangsa: apt does | 22:10 |
| sarnold | shailangsa: you've done something to wind up in a broken state | 22:10 |
| sarnold | shailangsa: the trick is to keep digging until you find out what's different about your system | 22:10 |
| shailangsa | perhaps its related to disabling the auto update feature under options? | 22:10 |
| sarnold | shailangsa: probably not | 22:12 |
| sarnold | shailangsa: dpkg --get-selections | grep hold might just get you straight to the answer, or it might not help at all. the most reliable way is to keep doing what you were doing until you find the cause. | 22:12 |
| shailangsa | running "dpkg --get-selections | grep hold" returns nothing | 22:14 |
| sarnold | dang | 22:14 |
| sarnold | then keep doing the slow iteration | 22:14 |
| hwpplayer1 | see you later friends | 22:18 |
| sarnold | Peng: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/irssi/1.2.2-1ubuntu1.1/+build/19780424 -- perhaps related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ddeb-retriever/+bug/1921940 if you want a bug to subscribe to :) | 22:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1921940 in ddeb-retriever "libgtk-3-0-dbgsym missing for focal-updates" [Undecided,New] | 22:28 |
| sarnold | Peng: (cjwatson to the rescue again :) | 22:28 |
| Peng | sarnold: \o/ | 22:30 |
| error_one | when booting from grub into a second hard drive, the resolution is 640x480 as it boots up, is there something i can put in the grub for that drive to set another resolution? | 22:30 |
| tomreyn | error_one: compare the grub configurations, make sure the grub version is the same? whihc ubuntu releases are you using on these HDDs? | 22:34 |
| error_one | the first is 16, the one I'm having problems with is 20 | 22:34 |
| tomreyn | if you can't solve it that way, there is https://vietlq.github.io/2019/09/22/make-grub-font-size-bigger/ | 22:34 |
| tomreyn | !yy.mm | error_one | 22:35 |
| ubottu | error_one: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle | 22:35 |
| tomreyn | !16.04 | 22:35 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) is the 24th release of Ubuntu, supported until April 2021. Release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes | 22:35 |
| tomreyn | ^ time to upgrade | 22:35 |
| tomreyn | (I'm guessing you were referring to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and 20.04 LTS) | 22:36 |
| error_one | yes | 22:36 |
| tomreyn | you can also just install the newer grub on both disks, or always boot off the same disk, configuring both systems on one installation. | 22:38 |
| dTal | Whoa, grub has a touchscreen keyboard! | 22:40 |
| dTal | It looks like ass, but I'm shocked it has one at all | 22:40 |
| sarnold | wow | 22:40 |
| dTal | that's amazing | 22:40 |
| dTal | rendered using console characters, that's hilarious | 22:41 |
| sarnold | lol | 22:41 |
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