[00:08] <atari2600a> I know this is off-topic but the other channels are dead af.  Did anyone manage to actually *boot* the 21.04b1 pi image?
[00:16] <nyxyn> Is there a term for a fellow ubuntu user?
[00:21] <va7lnx> uuser?
[00:22] <nyxyn> Hello fellow uuser
[00:26] <Peng> sarnold: Since I just posted an emoticon before, thank you both, downloading the .ddeb from LP worked. :)
[00:27] <sarnold> Peng: yay :)
[00:29] <nyxyn> sarnold, is that your name or a reference to the actor Arnold Schwartznegger?
[00:29] <sarnold> nyxyn: my name
[00:29] <nyxyn> Nice
[00:29] <Peng> Maybe it's both!
[00:29] <nyxyn> Come with me if you want to use linux
[00:29] <nyxyn> aaargggghhh
[00:30] <sarnold> it's not a bootloadah
[00:30] <nyxyn> lol
[00:43] <VMGuy23> i dual-boot windows 10/Ubuntu 20.10 and i recently copied my disk to a bigger one. using Acronis, it said the Ubuntu partition had errors and had to do it sector by sector
[00:43] <VMGuy23> and now, grub is useless, wont boot windows and Ubuntu just refuses to start
[00:44] <VMGuy23> im stuck with windows and windows boot manager
[00:44] <VMGuy23> any help?
[01:53] <mozzarella> how can I see webp images with the gnome image viewer?
[01:55] <sarnold> mozzarella: try sudo apt install libwebp6 -- I don't know for sure that the image viewer will be able to find it or not, but it's easy to install it and try -- gnome may also require logging out and in again
[01:56] <mozzarella> sarnold: it's already installed and it's not working
[01:57] <sarnold> :(
[02:23] <sybariten> Oh hai
[02:23] <sybariten> Is there a software cdrom eject as per standard in a linux system?
[02:28] <sarnold> sybariten: yes, it's eject in the eject package
[02:31] <sybariten> sarnold:hmmm ok so eject was alread the newest version.
[02:32] <leaftype> mmm, this salsa con queso is delicious
[02:32] <sybariten> i'm ejecting a... device, maybe? like /dev/sr0 . And perhaps only as sudo ?
[02:32] <leaftype> oh sorry, wrong channel
[02:33] <sybariten> sarnold:worked like a charm, thanks
[02:34] <edlou> im watching all of you
[02:41] <sybariten> ok
[04:16] <sybariten> hm, anyone wanna try and install the "enhanced cp" command gcp from repos? I get serious errors wehen trying to use it
[06:54] <anonymou25676> Hey! Does anyone know if there is a bug that can be fixed on  tcp or udp port 69? And if there is a known problem with the terminal for external reading and entering and how to fix that in a simple way?
[06:57] <anonymous5676> Hey! Does anyone know if there is a problem with udp or tcp port 69 and if there is a known problem with the terminal for external reading and entering and how to fix that?
[07:10] <anonymous5676> Hey! Does anyone know if there is a bug in iptables or ubuntu that allows traffic to tcp/udp port 69 from external computers? Is there a way to secure the terminal from external exploits in an easy way?
[07:11] <guiverc> you've asked that 3 times anonymous5676; please be patient
[07:11] <anonymous5676> sorry irrsi bugged me and i switched to web client instead :)
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> anonymous5676: while you wait, please search related existing bugs here; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iptables
[07:12] <anonymous5676> thx
[07:22] <anonymous5676> Hmmm! Correcting myself... Idon't wan to have an exploit to allow traffic but to dissalow traffic to terminal from external sources... Might be a romour that i have been heard of but it's supposed to be at port 69
[07:31] <anonymous5676> tryed steve gibbons grc.com shieldsUP and it repored it a stealthed but i'm still unsure about this. I have been hearing about it from now and the for a cuple of years if i'm not remembering wrong. Might be a port that hackers use to exploit linux computers. I think the port is used for tftp
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> anonymous5676: i think your issues are more for ##networking then an ubuntu issue?
[07:32] <anonymous5676> ok thx
[07:49] <anonymous5676> vpn should be sufficiant right?
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> anonymous5676: did you not agree your issue is more a ##networking problem?
[07:55] <latk> I have a line in /etc/fstab to mount a disk to /data
[07:56] <latk> Mostly this works, but recently something else appears to be mounted to /data, and I can't work out what stupid thing I have done to cause this.
[07:56] <latk> How can I work out what I have done?
[08:12] <overclucker> latk: you could switch to mounting by UUID if you are having issues with /dev/sda,b,c,.. getting mixed up
[08:25] <latk> overclucker: It isn't that I have also mounted something else in fstab -- that line works -- it is more that something else (maybe docker?) has overriden the mount.
[08:25] <latk> and I can't work out what
[09:12] <EriC^^> latk: you can run "mount" command in the terminal to see how it's mounted, what options etc maybe it shows something useful
[09:43] <irgendwer4711> hi, does Chrome work well today? I have crashes for days...
[09:48] <michele|> I want to run tar JcfP /tmp/foo.tar.xz /etc/ /data - the only problem is that /data may not exist. in that case, tar exits with: /data: Cannot stat: No such file or directory. How do I tell tar to archive every directory I pass as an argument and ignore the ones that do not exist? tar --ignore-failed-read might be a good candidate, but I fear it
[09:48] <michele|> might hide I/O problems. What do you think?
[10:12] <etronik> happy Easter everyone
[10:12] <etronik> I'm upgrading darktable on my Ubuntu 20.04 but still shows 2.4.4 as the latest (3.4.1 is the actual latest), even after following instructions at  https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=graphics:darktable&package=darktable
[10:16] <arther181> I have extracked initrd using unmkinitramfs but unable to pack it again. Can anyone please help me how to pack it? Ubuntu 20.04.
[10:26] <Maik> !latest
[10:26] <Maik> etronik: ^
[10:27] <Maik> installing software from outside the repo's isn't really supported and at own risk
[10:27] <etronik> Maik, so how do I override the main repositories to account for the latest version ?
[10:30] <Maik> i don't know, but why do you actually need the newest release of it?
[10:30] <cbreak> you can always install stuff on the side, outside the package manager
[10:30] <cbreak> just don't use the normal locations for it
[10:31] <etronik> Maik, why new release is because the current one is dreadfully old ! and cbreak don't want to install stuff on the side to benefit from updates
[10:31] <etronik> I think you can understand that it's my judgement call no ?
[10:32] <etronik> it's not like I'm installing stuff willy nilly !
[10:32] <cbreak> 3.4.1-1build1 will be in 21.04
[10:32] <etronik> is 21.04 LTS ?
[10:32] <cbreak> no
[10:32] <Maik> no
[10:33] <cbreak> sounds like you don't want lts
[10:33] <cbreak> you want features
[10:33] <etronik> nop, I just don't want to update releases every now and then
[10:33] <cbreak> -> features
[10:33] <cbreak> updating releases is what gives you new feature releases
[10:33] <etronik> I'm having difficulty undrstanding your resistance :-)
[10:34] <cbreak> you get to decide :)
[10:34] <cbreak> basically, it's your choice:
[10:34] <cbreak> do you want new feature releases? Then upgrade
[10:34] <cbreak> or not? Then stay with an LTS, which is intended to NOT give you new feature releases
[10:34] <Maik> or use Snap versions of the software you use
[10:34] <cbreak> but instead to keep everything as stable as possible
[10:34] <etronik> so you're saying you don't have ANY outside repos ?
[10:34] <cbreak> I'm not using LTS
[10:35] <cbreak> and when I want stuff that's not in the repos, I install it on the side
[10:35] <Maik> etronik: if you want the latest and greatest go rolling release :)
[10:36] <Maik> ubuntu as said, aims for stability
[10:36] <etronik> but I dont want the latest and greatest! I carefully choose what stuff I want - for this particular purpose I want the latest release - it's a photo management app - low risk
[10:36] <Maik> have a look at the Snap version then
[10:37] <cbreak> normal ubuntu is not that modular
[10:38] <etronik> feels like you're discussing a purist form of usage, and I want to understand why after following instructions, something that was supposed to work is failing...
[10:38] <Maik> then why did they include snap store from 20.04 onward....
[10:40] <cbreak> etronik: who knows
[10:40] <etronik> how do I know what version of darktable is on the snapstore ?
[10:40] <cbreak> you're the one that has the ability to check symptoms
[10:40] <cbreak> you're the on that can read the output of apt update
[10:41] <Maik> etronik: open ubuntu software and search or look here https://snapcraft.io/
[10:41] <cbreak> it should tell you things
[10:41] <etronik> cbreak, of course I can, I was asking for help, then depending of the questions, I would provide the requested symptom - but all I got was a evagelization
[10:42] <etronik> Maik, it doesn't show version... I searched for darkatbel
[10:42] <etronik> darktable
[10:42] <cbreak> etronik: apt update should tell you which sources it reads from
[10:42] <cbreak> does it read the source you gave it?
[10:42] <Maik> etronik: https://snapcraft.io/darktable
[10:43] <etronik> ahh in little corner it says latest 3.2.1 - woefully outdated also
[10:44] <Maik> i for one do not support install software from outside the repo's, so i won't be able to assist further
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:16] <frad> Im comparing how much cpu x265 and x264 videos consume to be played. I found that x265 files need less cpu than x264, even if x265 files are longer than the x264. But what I don't understand is why the notebook's fan spins faster when I play the x264. Shouldn
[13:16] <frad> t it be the other way round?
[13:17] <cbreak> frad: ?
[13:17] <cbreak> fan speed is influenced by temperature, which is related to power consumption
[13:18] <cbreak> cpu usage is related to power consumption too
[13:18] <cbreak> using a CPU uses more power than idling
[13:19] <cbreak> how much cpu is used to decode a movie depends on many factors, such as how optimized the decoder is, the algorithm used for encoding, the data rate, ...
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> not a topic for #ubuntu support frad cbreak ?
[13:24] <frad> lotuspsychje, I cannot decipher your message
[13:24] <frad> oh
[13:25] <noor2> how do i list all the running processes on the system
[13:26] <ztuzgg> Try ps -acx
[13:27] <ztuzgg> or ps -aux
[13:27] <frad> thx cbreak
[13:27] <noor2> thanks
[13:38] <thiras> folk tr.archive.ubuntu.com has resolving issue
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> thiras: are you behind a firewall or router?
[13:41] <Ravage> does not resolve on all major dns servers
[13:42] <Ravage> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1328581/why-is-tr-archive-ubuntu-com-down
[13:43] <Ravage> use http://mirror.sh.com.tr/ubuntu/ for now
[13:52] <Mohnish> Hey everyone, I have a problem. I have a laptop with windows 7 and ubuntu studio 16.10 installed on it. I wish to install ubuntu 20.04 LTS on it in place of 16.10, since there is no way to upgrade it from the system itself, I'm gonna install ubuntu 20.04 from a bootable usb drive. I wanted to know if the automated installer would be able to detect the windows installation and 16.10 installation and
[13:52] <Mohnish> install in place of 16.10 leaving windows 7 untouched
[13:53] <Mohnish> or, if i have to go with the custom installation, what would be the process?
[13:59] <Mohnish> basically, I want to install 20.04 in place of 16.10 leaving the windows 7 installation untouched
[14:03] <Ravage> the installer should detect it. if you choose a manual partition layout you can select which partitions will be touch. a backup is recommended anyway of course
[14:03] <Mohnish> sorry, had some network interruptions
[14:04] <Ravage> it may be even easier for the installer to remove the ubuntu partitions from windows so it detects empty space to install to
[14:04] <leftyfb> Mohnish: I would wipe the ubuntu 16.01 partition(s) and install 20.04 in it's place. It should leave Windows untouched if done properly
[14:04] <Mohnish> oh, okay
[14:05] <Mohnish> leftyfb: hmm, so what should I be careful about while doing this?
[14:05] <leftyfb> Mohnish: just make sure you can restore from backup in case anything goes wrong
[14:05] <Mohnish> I guess what I can do is, delete the ubuntu 16.10 partitions and make it seem like unallocated space, and then install 20.04?
[14:06] <leftyfb> Mohnish: that said, you do understand Windows 7 became EOL well over a year ago. 5 years after Windows 10 was released. You really shouldn't be running that anymore.
[14:06] <Mohnish> leftyfb: yeah, I understand, but its not my laptop, it's my professor's :D
[14:07] <leftyfb> Mohnish: even worse
[14:07] <leftyfb> Mohnish: professors should have the ability to upgrade to Windows 10 for free
[14:07] <Mohnish> lol why?
[14:07] <Mohnish> oh
[14:07] <Ravage> what lefty said. i manged to activate the paid windows 7 updates in a VM though. just to see if it can be done. my VM has updates from this month now
[14:07] <Mohnish> Ravage: oh
[14:08] <Ravage> but yeah.. you should really upgrade to windows 10
[14:08] <leftyfb> Mohnish: either way, good luck with the Ubuntu 20.04 install
[14:09] <Mohnish> So, deleting the 16.10 partitions, then installing 20.04 should work, right?
[14:09] <Ravage> i havent done it in a while. but the ubuntu installer usally detects any existing windows installation
[14:09] <Ravage> it should offer you to install on the free space
[14:10] <Mohnish> hmm, yeah
[14:10] <Ravage> it will show you what changes it will do to your partitions. just make sure it keeps windows untouched
[14:10] <Mohnish> should I try all this in a vm first and then on the machine later?
[14:11] <tieinv> backup first
[14:11] <Ravage> yep. backup
[14:11] <Ravage> use clonezilla or any other backup tool
[14:11] <Mohnish> hmm
[14:12] <Ravage> if it is not even your computer better be safe than sorry
[14:12] <Mohnish> yeah
[14:12] <Mohnish> I'll backup first
[14:12] <Ravage> clonezilla can backup to a USB drive or even on a network share
[14:12] <tieinv> backup should be restorable
[14:13] <Mohnish> the problem is that the laptop's hard drive is 1tb in size, and I don't have a storage medium of that large size
[14:16] <EriC^^> Mohnish: from the installer if you do manual partitioning you should be good, though if you delete the ubuntu partition/choose to format it the home dir will be removed, does he not care about his files?
[14:17] <leftyfb> Mohnish: at least backup the user directory from the Windows partition. Having no backup is begging for data loss
[14:18] <Mohnish> he barely has any files in ubuntu 16.10, so backing up those would be easy, most of his stuff is on his windows installation
[14:18] <Mohnish> yeah, I'll have to find a way to backup before I make a move
[14:44] <fbiagent_> hello ubuntu friends, I am struggling to get the software update notification popup only to check on saturdays (or friday-sunday). Is there a way to do this?
[15:26] <johny181_> Hello Everyone! Can anyone please tell me how can I edit initrd in Ubuntu 20.04?
[15:37] <amazoniantoad> My mouse suddenly stopped being able to scroll I'm on Ubuntu 20.04.1 can anyone help me resolve this issue?
[15:41] <nuala> fbiagent: put it into crontab?  notify-send 'updates' 'hej check your updates'
[15:42] <nyxyn> I found a bug in application gnome-tweaks. Where can I report this?
[15:43] <nuala> nyxyn: 'burger menu' > about tweaks > https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Tweaks
[15:44] <cariveri> Hi. I copied a lot of data with the file manager from one usb drive to another. but the progress display stalled. I dont know whether its still going or stoppped complete and how I would resume. thanks for help with that ;)
[15:44] <nyxyn> Thanks nuala
[15:44] <nuala> ^^7
[15:46] <nuala> cariveri: i kinda try to cancel transfer in file manager, maybe wait, if nothing helps trying umounting via terminal; generally i delete whatever was partyly copied and copy it via cp -v
[15:47] <nyxyn> Seems people have been reporting this issue for 9 months
[15:51] <nuala> maybe link the issue here, or give it ... a relike or something if you have an account ^^;
[15:51] <tomreyn> johny181_: what are you trying to change?
[15:53] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: replace batteries if wireless, try winding the wire if wired. reseat connector in different usb port. install the pending ubuntu upgrades. check system logs for usb / mouse related errors.
[15:54] <nyxyn> When you turn off the animations in gnome-tweak the UI flicker and you can no longer access the general tab: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-tweaks/-/issues/295
[15:55] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, it's wired. Tried reseating in different usb port and it continued. installed upgrades. it still continues. How do I check system logs for usb / mouse related errors?
[15:56] <tomreyn> nyxyn: gnome-tweaks 3.34.1 (which upstream requests to test) is not in any ubuntu release, yet. you can file a bug against ubuntu in hopes to see a backported fix.
[15:56] <tomreyn> !bug | nyxyn
[15:58] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: journalctl is the CLI to access system logs (ther eis also a GUI application called "Logs"). All the logs from the latest boot onwards can be accessed with   journalctl -b   (quit the viewer by pressing 'q'), the latest logs can be viewed by   journalctl -f    (it will print more logs as any new ones are added, press ctlr-c to quit)
[16:00] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, event21 - Mad Catz Mad Catz R.A.T. Pro X: SYN_DROPPED event - some input events have been lost.
[16:00] <amazoniantoad> This looks bad
[16:01] <amazoniantoad> lol
[16:01] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: lsusb   lists connected USB devices, including their [vendorid:deviceid] - which can help you search the web for issues with this specific device (probably not useful if the device used to work with the same kernel version).
[16:01] <magic_ninja> how can I save stdout output to a text and display in console? For instance ping localhost > output.txt doesn't show the output in terminal. Can I do both?
[16:02] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: get the [vendorid:deviceid] and do a web search with that and  "SYN_DROPPED"
[16:02] <amazoniantoad> magic_ninja, ping 127.0.0.1 > output.txt
[16:03] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, thanks
[16:03] <magic_ninja> amazoniantoad, that will not print the output in terminal also
[16:03] <atal> tomreyn I have to run a script before mounting the real rootfs. The script will change a variable in /boot/filename. If you any suggestions, please let me know.
[16:03] <nuala> magic_ninja: use `cat output.txt`  or `less some_long_file.txt` (quit less with q)
[16:04] <amazoniantoad> magic_ninja, correct it saves it to a file. You want it to both print to terminal and save to a file?
[16:04] <tomreyn> magic_ninja: echo foo | tee /tmp/bar
[16:04] <nuala> ^ !+1
[16:05] <magic_ninja> tomreyn, thank you. I guess it is just like a tee pipe fitting then
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> nyxyn: before filing your bug, please see if its not a dupe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-tweaks/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0
[16:07] <tomreyn> atal: you can manually unpack the initramfs (unmkinitramfs), then add your file / modify things as needed, and repack it (mkinitramfs). but the better approach is probably to add a hook for update-initramfs
[16:08] <tomreyn> magic_ninja: i'm not a native english speaker, but i assume that's a joke. :)
[16:09] <magic_ninja> tomreyn, I see. This is a tee pipe fitting: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32408767049.html
[16:10] <tomreyn> oh, i was wondering what the name was based on.
[16:12] <cariveri> nuala: next time ill use rsync. but it goes on onw.
[16:13] <atal> tomreyn: Thank you so much! Can you please refer any article for add a hook in update-initramfs.
[16:17] <tomreyn> atal: are you familiar with man pages? if so, see initramfs-tools(8), if not:
[16:17] <tomreyn> !man | atal
[16:17] <tomreyn> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man8/initramfs-tools.8.html
[16:18] <tomreyn> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man8/initramfs-tools.8.html#hook%20scripts rather
[16:18] <tomreyn> but apparently this is missing in later releases, the mechanism must have been replaced
[16:20] <atal> tomreyn: yes I'm familiar with man pages.
[16:20] <atal> Thank you Guys
[16:21] <atal> You are super helpful.
[16:46] <nuala> cariveri: yes rsync would be even better i guess.
[17:05] <kiryin> Hey, I'm having a bit of a problem with the ibus input method that gnome uses by default. I'm running up-to-date 20.04, using the wayland gnome session, and I can't use ibus in qt5 applications. I'm aware of the wayland situation with qt5 on gnome but unfortunately forcing it with QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland doesn't make a difference, so I don't think it's caused by xwayland. Anyone here have any hints?
[17:28] <magic_ninja> kinda wondering how I should handle this upgrade. I have liquorix kernel installed (only because I need 5.11 for the drivers). Now, with 21.04, the 5.11 kernel will be there, so I no longer need that kernel. But my drivers depend on it. Will the system just install kernel 5.11 from the repos and then I can boot into that kernel and remove the liquorix one?
[17:32] <Febass> How do I get my xbox controller working?
[17:33] <Febass> I have been trying for 3 days to get this to work
[17:33] <Febass> And it's not working for some reason
[17:33] <Febass> I have ubuntu-xboxdrv installed
[17:33] <Febass> And it shows up on my device list with jstest-gtk
[17:33] <Febass> I mean
[17:33] <Febass> With lsusb
[17:33] <Febass> It DOESN'T show up with jstest-gtk
[17:34] <Febass> Can some one please help me this is increadibly frustraiting I just want to play my videogames that I just got working on wine
[17:35] <Febass> Hello?
[17:40] <magic_ninja> Febass, you gotta just hang out a while, and someone will answer when they see it. You new to IRC?
[17:40] <unamear> you'll be lucky if you get one message every hour
[17:41] <magic_ninja> It's more of a place where you throw out your question, and if someone has an idea, they will help.
[17:42] <Febass> I know, I am just frustrated
[17:42] <Febass> Like I have limmited free time and I just want to play games
[17:42] <Febass> I work 7 days this week
[17:43] <magic_ninja> Febass, try out this software: https://gitlab.com/evtest-qt/evtest-qt
[17:43] <magic_ninja> The website says something about their interface being out of date as of 2 years ago and says you might want to try that software out.
[17:47] <goodTimesImmort> Are xubuntu questions ok in this room?
[17:48] <Febass> magic_ninja: I am getting errors
[17:51] <magic_ninja> Febass, copy the errors, and post them here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/  . Then, share URL of that post with us. Don't post a bunch of terminal output in the channel, as it will be flagged as spam.
[17:51] <rfm> goodTimesImmort, yes, xubuntu is an official flavor
[17:52] <nuala> Febass: I am sure someone has used xbox (one, 360 420?) controlle rbefore. also what ubuntu version and ubuntu-xboxdrv version?
[17:52] <nuala> (prolly best putting that also in the paste ^^)
[17:54] <Febass> magic_ninja: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Sg5GWCDY3Y/
[17:55] <Febass> nuala: The newest version
[18:02] <magic_ninja> Febass, it needs qt4, but I'm not familiar enough with the process to guide you through that. I'm not even sure if you can install multiple versions side-by-side.
[18:06] <Febass> argh
[18:06] <Febass> Well, thanks for your help anyways magic_ninja
[18:09] <jjbuggle> Im trying to use 2 programs at once, and I want a keyboard shortcut to apply to the program not select.  Possible?  I'm trying to type up a transcription and I would like to control the audio player without having to mouse over to it and highlight it
[18:27] <tomreyn> jjbuggle: you can assign keybindings to xdotool
[18:39] <jjbuggle> tomreyn: oh isee, so setup some custom commands to target a window
[18:40] <tomreyn> right
[18:44] <koffeinfriedhof> Febass: Don't know anything about xbox-controls but for Qt5 you need to 'apt install qt5-default qt5-qmake qtbase5-dev-tools clang-11'
[19:23] <sybariten> Hey, anyone wanna try and install the "enhanced cp" command "gcp" from repos? I get serious errors wehen trying to use it and i don't know if maybe i'¨m doing something wrong
[19:23] <sybariten> as in, i get python errors
[19:35] <holgersson> sybariten: Hi, please provide a full error message. Python errors (traces) are typically longer than 3 lines, so I recommend to use a nopaste service, e.g. https://psty.io
[19:35] <holgersson> sybariten: You could run (inside a terminal emulator) 'gcp &> /tmp/gcp-output' to redirect everything (stdout and stderr) into the file /tmp/gcp-output and paste the contents afterwards.
[19:42] <sybariten> holgersson: okaj kommer
[19:43] <Peng> sarnold: I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ddeb-retriever/+bug/1922451 just in case it might be useful.
[19:50] <sybariten> holgersson: seriously though, why is _every_ one on IRC recommending a different paste service?
[19:50] <sybariten> here's a problem i'm getting running the "improved" cp command gcp :  https://pastebin.com/5mxL7XbR
[19:51] <holgersson> sybariten: It's just way better to use.
[19:51] <sybariten> it has the same syntax as cp, but with some extra snazzy stuff added
[19:52] <holgersson> sybariten: ah, why a *different*? They are just tools like a screwdriver. Take the one you know and that's currently not broken ;-)
[19:53] <holgersson> sybariten: I'm mostly a gentoo user and "we" recommend that py-thing and I know it's working, so I recommended it. Personally I'm using filebin on paste.xinu.at, but you need an account there, so I can't openly recommend it :]
[19:54] <sybariten> holgersson:yeah, wanted something with a bit more output. This one can actually change characters on the destination drive if there seems to be charset problems
[19:54] <sybariten> holgersson:ah, forget it, i misunderstood
[19:55] <sybariten> anyhow, the gcp command seems broken at my place. Installed with sudo apt-get install gcp
[19:55] <leftyfb> sybariten: you should file a bug with gcp
[19:55] <leftyfb> !bug | sybariten
[19:56] <holgersson> sybariten: yep, as leftyfb says, this is a bug.
[19:56] <leftyfb> looks like it's been a bug for almost 10 years https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=678477
[19:56] <holgersson> I guess you could redirect the stderr output to dev-null as a workaround
[19:57] <sybariten> holgersson:uh dang you're right it did actually make the copy
[19:57] <leftyfb> oh wait, that's virt-manager
[19:58] <sybariten> leftyfb:is this considered a bug "in ubuntu"? even though i installed a package?
[19:58] <leftyfb> sybariten: yes
[19:59] <holgersson> sybariten: did you install it out of the official repos?
[19:59] <holgersson> e.g. with "apt install gcp"
[20:02] <sybariten> holgersson: uhhhyeeeah, i cant rememeber adding any repo or antyhign no. I mean you could prolly just try it yourself, it's 150 k or so
[20:05] <holgersson> sybariten: I'm not on Ubuntu right now, but gcp 0.2.1 on gentoo runs fine :-P
[20:05] <holgersson> sybariten: What's your version on Ubuntu? "gcp --version | head -n1" and no need for a paste ;-)
[20:08] <sybariten> holgersson: in that case this may be because i'm running a rather special setup, ubuntu 20 but live (but persistent)
[20:13] <holgersson> sybariten: I wrote that it works on *gentoo* - that's a completly different linux distribution
[20:13] <holgersson> I'm just curious if it's maybe just due to an old version inside ubuntu
[20:17] <sybariten> holgersson: i can try it on another machine
[20:18] <Batoeh> Hello I recently rebooted my computer and I somehow broke xorg. I am running 20.10 using 5.8.0-48-lowlatency kernel. Nvidia version 390.141. I am in tmux and have access to lynx but I am sorry I forget how to copy and paste here.
[20:25] <holgersson> sybariten: I can confirm your bug inside a ubuntu 20.10 VM. Please file a bug report.
[20:27] <cbreak> is there already an exact release day, hour and minute for 21.04? :)
[20:30] <Batoeh> brb trying something real quick
[20:32] <sybariten> holgersson: ha! similar glib error on a different machine, a Ubuntu server v20 . So its prolly a real bug then
[20:32] <sybariten> ok will look into how bugs are filed
[20:33] <holgersson> cbreak: ymmd!
[20:34] <holgersson> cbreak: but not to forget about the second!
[20:34] <Bashing-om> !bug | sybariten
[20:34] <sybariten> next question ....  the automounting in ubuntu, is that mechanism a complicated story?
[20:35] <sybariten> heres what i do. 1.) i boot up a live Ubuntu OS, I am then the user xubuntu  2.) i set up a new user jake and set up ssh access to that 3.) i mount some disks under the jake user, to /mnt/ 4. i insert a cdrom. But that cd now gets mounted "by" xubuntu user i guess, under /media .... so i guess i need to sudo to do certain copy things
[20:35] <sybariten> would it be possible to "move" the automount behaviour from user xubuntu to user jake, for a cdrom, and also have it mount to /mnt/ instead ?
[22:14] <HighADconsultant> Hi!
[22:14] <HighADconsultant> need help on how to properly create cronjobs
[22:27] <MrBurns> https://crontab.guru/ is a handy tool
[22:32] <tomreyn> !details | HighADconsultant
[23:51] <courrier> Hey! My Xorg does not show up with 20.04 kernel 5.8 but it works fine with 5.4. I can't find any clue in /var/log/Xorg.* and the regular nomodeset noapic noacpi nospplash irqpoll does not help. Any idea? :(
[23:55] <Sven_vB> hi! on focal, how do I query which target systemd is currently trying to establish? (I assume multi-user.target)