[00:00] <Sven_vB> seems my assumption was wrong. when I "systemctl start multi-user.target" it stops lightdm instea
[00:12] <Sven_vB> what's the default systemd target in focal? is it multi-user?
[00:13] <Sven_vB> ah no, graphical.target of course
[00:14] <Bashing-om> Sven_vB: multi-user disables the greeter, thus boots to TTY. GUI: 'systemctl set-default graphical ' .
[00:16] <Sven_vB> oh neat, I didn't know systemctl has {g,s}et-target subcommands. that's even easier than reading a symlink.
[00:16] <Sven_vB> yeah it's graphical.target currently
[00:17] <Sven_vB> and when I start that while lightdm is running, it stays as is. nice
[00:21] <sybariten> this may be a bizarre question but if a userA is logged into the desktop on a machine, which is basically headless, is there a way to log that user out over ssh and log in userB instead?
[00:40] <goodTimesImmort> I was running Ubuntu and my laptop was overheating, did a little digging, downloaded sensors and psensor, checked my logs to make sure my shutdowns where clean, followed an article and ended downloading xubuntu as suggested in the linked article... My question is, why did I end up with multiple "clocks" and battery indicators on my panel?
[00:40] <goodTimesImmort> https://itsfoss.com/reduce-overheating-laptops-linux/
[00:41] <goodTimesImmort> Also, should I just remove them from the panel and will that leave unnecessary jobs running in the background?
[00:46] <tomreyn> there's a dedicated xubuntu channel at #xubuntu - this may be the best place to ask about xubuntu specific things.
[00:49] <tomreyn> my first recommendation to ensure proper thermal management is to ensure your bios is updated. then to look through your system logs for acpi issues, and to try to simulate windows if needed. if it's older hardware, you should ensure the airflow is good, i.e. clean any fans and air channels (or have someone do it for you if you don't know how / don't dare to).
[00:56] <goodTimesImmort> Sorry, I asked earlier and was told it was ok since it is an official flavor. Gonna check on updating the bios, although I haven't had a shutdown since moving to the lighter desktop environment. Thanks for the advice, but I still gotta figure out why my clock and battery indicators are doubled on my panel
[00:59] <tomreyn> goodTimesImmort: it's fine to ask here about other offical flavours such as Xubuntu. They share the same base, same packages repositories. It's just that the Desktops differ, and less XFCE desktop users may be present here than in #xubuntu, which is why i brought it up.
[01:01] <tomreyn> goodTimesImmort: from what i remember, you can edit all or almost all elements of the xubuntu panels. Just dropping some of them should prevent them from loading and consuming resources.
[01:01] <tomreyn> also make sure your system meets the minimum system requirements.
[01:02] <tomreyn> for Ubuntu that's (if i recall correctly) 4 GB RAM, multi-threaded CPU, 64-bit (amd64) CPU
[01:19] <goodTimesImmort> tomreyn: I did notice I could simply remove, I just assumed that Ubuntu wouldn't necessarily stop background processes associated with them so I wanted to make sure. I appreciate the help.
[01:21] <tomreyn> goodTimesImmort: ps auxw    lists all the running processes, you can pipe the output into a pager, such as less (press 'q' to quit):  ps auxw | less
[02:05] <DolphinDream> howdy bunterz
[02:07] <goodTimesImmort> tomreyn: Thank you, I've been using top, but I can't read the matrix just yet, this works way better!
[02:08] <DolphinDream> i recently moved from U16 to U20 and some of my projects (c++) get a linking error: undefined reference to `measurement::hashes::CRC8::add(void const*, unsigned long)’ .. and it seems that if i add the linking to libdevice64.so (-ldevice64) it seems to solve the linking error. but i wonder why? why U20 now needs this new linking? anybody knows
[02:08] <DolphinDream> what might have changed between U16 and U20 regarding these signatures/libraries ??
[02:09] <tomreyn> you moved from under 16 to under 20, so you got older?
[02:09] <tomreyn> !yy.mm
[02:19] <DolphinDream> tomreyn ?
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: he means elaborating your ubuntu release(s)
[02:20] <DolphinDream> not sure it helped with my question though
[02:21] <DolphinDream> are you wondering WHY making the transition from U16 to U20 so late ?
[02:21] <tomreyn> DolphinDream: no, i'm wondering what "U16" and "U20" are.
[02:22] <DolphinDream> ubuntu 16 / ubuntu 20
[02:23] <DolphinDream> sorry.
[02:23] <tomreyn> that's a bit better but not good enough, see what ubottu told you
[02:23] <DolphinDream> thought that may be obvious in the context of this channel
[02:24] <DolphinDream> ok.. ubuntu 16.04 LTS .. to 20.04 LTS
[02:24] <tomreyn> \o/
[02:29] <tomreyn> DolphinDream: so when you say you "moved", you mean you did release upgrades? what does this return?   apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$' | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:29] <tomreyn> those are packages installed without an update candidate
[02:32] <DolphinDream> :)  ok.. I need to better explain it.. I started with a fresh install of Ubuntu 20.04 LTS .. and setup my developing environment for my codebase and compiled my libraries and apps.. for most part the compilation/linking works fine.. except in some cases.. like mentioned above where I found that I needed to add an extra library to linking process
[02:32] <DolphinDream> to successfully build some apps. My question was why am i getting this linking error in 20.04 but did not get it in 16.04.. essentially what changed between 16.04 and 20.04 (regarding these CRC functions and their respective libraries).
[02:38] <tomreyn> i wouldn't know why this is happening. chances are, that the linker defaults have changed between those releases.
[03:10] <sharpie> any reason my box is wanting to connect to kubuntu.org? I am running KDE, but I didn't expect frequent DNS queries
[03:18] <va7lnx> looking for updates?
[03:21] <tomreyn> updates would probablly be loaded from archive.ubuntu.com (or a local mirror server of that). about requests to kubuntu.org, i'd ask in #kubuntu rather.
[03:22] <sharpie> I would think updates would be handled by apt
[03:22] <tomreyn> ...or better do a packet capture and see what's being sent
[03:23] <sharpie> tomreyn, thank you for your advice
[03:25] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[03:27] <sharpie> ever since I have a pihole running, I can see all the DNS queries. I always knew a lot of windows apps + microsoft would phone home. Just suprized to KDE doing something similar.
[06:29] <superleaf1995> hi, i loaded up GIMP and it all shows text boxes only
[06:30] <superleaf1995> no abcdef, just [] <- boxes like this one
[06:30] <superleaf1995> i did what an SO question said (quoting https://askubuntu.com/questions/843533/text-has-turned-to-boxes-in-ubuntu-16-04). but still it does not work
[06:37] <EriC^^> superleaf1995: try to start gimp from a terminal in case it shows any info
[06:44] <superleaf1995> uhm
[06:44] <superleaf1995> it gives 0 info
[07:55] <unixbsd> Good morning Ubuntu!
[07:55] <unixbsd> I am currently making a ubuntu live, running out of ram and with virtualbox (with efi and partclone).
[08:41] <OERIAS> hi
[08:41] <OERIAS> I have a problem with an externally connected HD
[08:48] <OERIAS> hello????
[08:48] <OERIAS> This is the error message: https://imgur.com/D8Lld8l
[08:49] <OERIAS> the Disk utility reports this: https://imgur.com/pVCDPVX
[08:53] <isapgswell> why scrolll lock key is buggy on ubuntu?
[08:54] <isapgswell> i always need to comment //modifier Mod3 = { Scroll_Lock };
[09:40] <OERIAS> help?!!!!
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> !patience
[10:47] <tomreyn> OERIAS: "structure needs cleaning" means you need to run fsck (against /dev/sdc1) manually.
[10:52] <OERIAS> tomreyn, so the command is" fsck /dev/sdc1 "?
[10:54] <tomreyn> OERIAS: it may turn out that one won't actually help you, but it's a good first step to take.
[10:58] <OERIAS> Inode 526802 passes checks, but checksum does not match inode.  Fix<y>?
[10:58] <OERIAS> ^^ tomreyn
[11:01] <tomreyn> OERIAS: assuming it did not warn that the device is currently mounted, and you have backups, it should be safe.
[11:02] <rtpg> Anyone having problems with the 21.04 beta where trying to open the Terminal doesn't seem to cause a window to get spawned? having a gut feeling it's due to wayland + multiwindow... stuff but not sure
[11:03] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | rtpg
[11:03] <rtpg> thanks, will head over there
[11:15] <summonner> odd... running   sudo snap install ungoogled-chromium --edge    makes my monitor reset to 800x600
[11:28] <john_rambo> suppose I have 10 mp3 tracks & all of them differ in audio volume ....Does there a player exist which will play all 10 of them in the same volume ?
[11:29] <tomreyn> the effect you wish to apply is called normalization
[11:30] <tomreyn> many media players will support it. i know of vlc doing so.
[11:32] <tomreyn> you can also apply it to the media files to make it permanent. but as yous are in a lossful format - you'll loose some quality.
[12:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:15] <Luyin> hi there! I've got an ubuntu laptop here with a partition layout I don't fully understand. There's an sda2 partition that's only 1 KB big. Any idea what this could be or how I could find out? :) cheers
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Luyin, run df -h in the terminal
[12:17] <Luyin> BluesKaj: done, but the partition doesn't show up there
[12:18] <BluesKaj> then it's probly just unformatted open space
[12:18] <Luyin> BluesKaj: I found it with lsblk /dev/sda, it's sda2. df -h doesn't show it, so I think it's not mounted?
[12:18] <Luyin> the entry from lsblk is "sda2  8:2  0    1K  0 part"
[12:19] <cbreak> parted can print partition tables
[12:19] <BluesKaj> i wouldn't be too concerned about it anyway
[12:20] <w3gi> Hello,
[12:20] <Luyin> hmm. the thing is I want to repartition a little bit because / is running out of space and /home has a lot left, but I wanted to write down the old partition scheme before so I could go back if I screw up :D
[12:20] <w3gi> i am searching a way to wipe multiple drives in parallel
[12:21] <w3gi> i have a server which have 32 sata bays and i need a tool that not heavily use the cpu like dd do
[12:22] <w3gi> any suggestions?
[12:25] <EriC^^> Luyin: sudo parted /dev/sdX unit s print  should give the partition table that you can reuse later if you want
[12:25] <Luyin> oooh
[12:25] <Luyin> that's nice
[12:25] <Luyin> thanks
[12:26] <EriC^^> maybe upload it sudo parted /dev/sdX unit s print | nc termbin.com 9999   so it's off the pc
[12:26] <EriC^^> np
[12:26] <Luyin> I'll put it on the other PC I'm working on :)
[12:28] <atal> I have created a boot script in /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/test.sh for testing https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CF5zMhxT7J   The script is not doing it's job. Can you please check the script where I'm wrong.
[12:30] <Luyin> ok sda2 is "extended", I think that's just that container thing where 5 and 6 (home and swap) are in
[12:46] <Sven_vB> hi! I just fixed an Ubuntu focal problem by accident. I think it's because I loaded a kernel module. is there a way to see which kernel modules have been loaded most recently?
[12:51] <maxFlexGuest> I am currently trying to run the Openbox desktop environment on my QEMU guest running Ubuntu.
[12:51] <maxFlexGuest> However, Openbox does not let me log out and select Xfce. When I restart QEMU, the same issue occurs repeatedly.
[12:54] <maxFlexGuest> Ctrl-Alt-Bksp did not work for me on "Focal Fossa"
[13:06] <Sven_vB> maxFlexGuest, I'm using openbox myself, and I run wbar to give me some buttons. one of them for logout.
[13:06] <Sven_vB> maxFlexGuest, can you open a shell in your openbox?
[13:07] <maxFlexGuest> There are no buttons. I only have a cursor (plus Magnus and "System Program Problem Detected" messages).
[13:07] <Sven_vB> maxFlexGuest, maybe I misunderstood. is your xfce on the host system, or is it all about inside the guest
[13:08] <maxFlexGuest> The Xfce is inside the guest (which is currently with Openbox problems).
[13:09] <Sven_vB> ok. do you have any interaction elements on your screen? if so, can you make a screenshot?
[13:09] <Sven_vB> also, should we aim for easier ways to log out of openbox, or just make xfce the default DE for some user?
[13:10] <maxFlexGuest> Xfce is the default for me.
[13:11] <maxFlexGuest> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/cba760a8c0e05fad6cc7cddf435154a2/Screen%20Shot%202021-04-04%20at%209.09.48%20AM.png
[13:12] <Sven_vB> I see. (log readers: just a very dark background with Magnus, the screen magnifier.)
[13:12] <Sven_vB> does a menu pop up if you right-click the dark background?
[13:12] <Sven_vB> ideally there'd be an option to launch a terminal
[13:13] <maxFlexGuest> Yes, and I have found a way to exit Openbox.
[13:21] <maxFlexGuest> I meant to say LXDE.
[13:23] <Sven_vB> nice. :) does that solve all of the problem?
[13:29] <Sven_vB> seems like it did
[13:35] <nuala> `xhost + is` bad, aye? how can i grant user jane permission to start stuff on john's Xsession?
[13:36] <tomreyn> should you be able to do that in the first place?
[13:37] <Sven_vB> nuala, easiest would probably be to launch something on john's Xsession like <fifo grep -xFe "$(cat -- allowed-commands.txt)" | sh
[13:38] <nuala> given they trust each other a lot? (i think i just lazy did xhost+ before? can't check my dotfiles rn; and iirc that kinda opens it up for 'everybody'
[13:38] <Sven_vB> for a more dynamis approach, sed -urf allowed-commands.sed -- pipe | sh
[13:40] <Sven_vB> access is determined by the pipe's write permission
[13:41] <nuala> `xhost local:jane@` seems to be sufficient, had to set'n' export johns DISPLAY for jane though
[13:42] <nuala> Sven_vB: ty anyway... but i also cant make sense of where that .txt comes from nur what you sed-piping into sh ^^;
[13:52] <Sven_vB> nuala, "pipe" would ne the file name of a fifo, which you can create with mkfifo
[13:53] <Sven_vB> nuala, the txt file would be a file you create to put the allowed commands
[14:05] <DJones> 4 b1a/w 20
[14:13] <nyxyn> Anyone here use w3m? I'm trying to set the default editor but I can't figure it out
[14:25] <Sven_vB> nyxyn, what kind of defaut editor? in shells? or for certain file types
[14:26] <nyxyn> When I'm browsing a page an I want to edit or copy the contents. Ctrl-o option.
[14:28] <Sven_vB> oh, sorry, I confused w3m with a window manager.
[14:28] <nyxyn> No worreis
[14:28] <nyxyn> worries*
[14:31] <Sven_vB> does it run the current editor in a shell or as a GUI app?
[14:34] <Sven_vB> the w3m FAQ says it uses the EDITOR environment variable, unless you override it. ("Go to the options setting panel using the <q>o</q> key. Any entry in the <q>Editor</q> field overrides the environment variable.")
[14:35] <Sven_vB> nyxyn, lots of shell programs rely on env vars EDITOR and VISUAL
[14:37] <nyxyn> Sven_vB, I tried VISUAL but not EDITOR. Maybe I can set that one and see what happens. Thanks for the idea
[14:38] <figure002> Hello, where are the Online Accounts data stored in the user home directory?
[14:49] <ioria> figure002,  a quick google search suggests  :  ~/.config/libaccounts-glib/
[14:51] <figure002> ioria: I have accounts configured, but that directory doesn't exist.
[14:52] <figure002> I tried googling too, but I was unable to find it.
[15:01] <ioria> figure002,  find -name accounts.db
[15:04] <Deano59> !isitoutyet
[15:04] <Deano59> no
[15:04] <figure002> ioria: No results
[15:06] <leftyfb> figure002: why do you need it?
[15:06] <cbreak> ubottu: 20.10 has been out for almost half a year
[15:07] <figure002> leftyfb: I want to copy it to my other computer.
[15:07] <leftyfb> figure002: I don't think that's going to work
[15:08] <Eth3rn> 11
[15:08] <figure002> leftyfb: No? Isn't this stuff usually stored in the home directory?
[15:09] <leftyfb> figure002: Not in the way you think. Not in this particular case.
[15:09] <figure002> leftyfb: Ah alright, thank you for clearing that up.
[15:09] <leftyfb> figure002: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeOnlineAccounts/Debugging   it's a bit complicated
[15:15] <Maik> cbreak: you know it's a bot... right? :D
[15:16] <habamax> I guess he read the message
[15:16] <habamax> s/he/they
[15:16] <figure002> leftyfb: I see, it's stored in some D-Bus session.
[15:17] <leftyfb> figure002: I think it's gvfs, though I still don't quite get it to be honest
[15:18] <brian_wilson> guys, I`m a newbie and need some help on root and home partitioning; whenever I try to install with a separate home partition, simple software get permission errors, such as pulseaudio, visual code, etc. can anyone share me a doc. to help me with this?? I can`t understand what is going on
[15:18] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: why do you need a separate home partition?
[15:19] <brian_wilson> Cause I`ve been trying different distros
[15:19] <figure002> leftyfb: If I understand the doc correctly, I think gvfs is used to mount online file systems, like Google Drive.
[15:20] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: then that is why you are having permission and possibly other issues. Not all distro's are going to use the same file locations or permissions.
[15:20] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: your issue is due to incompatibility between linux distro's and their file locations and permissions.
[15:20] <figure002> leftyfb: But the accounts themselves are stored in a D-Bus session: "The daemon runs as org.gnome.OnlineAccounts on the user or session bus. Each account is represented by a separate object under the /org/gnome/OnlineAccount/Accounts/ path and implements the org.gnome.OnlineAccounts.Account interface."
[15:22] <brian_wilson> leftyfb that cannot be entirely correct, since I had the same issue after installing with a completely formatted /home partition. I wish I just could understand the issue and be able to correct. Example: with a clean home install, visual code gives me permission errors to run certain commands and write on config files
[15:24] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: maybe contact Microsoft for support with their software
[15:24] <Deano59> or ##windows
[15:24] <Deano59> :)
[15:24] <nuala> (i use like ubuntu and another distro with a shared home partitions, anyhoo i chose different usernames. not too bad of an experience)
[15:25] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: I can tell you, just having a separate /home partition works just fine with all of the officially supported applications.
[15:25] <brian_wilson> guys, that partitioning even stopped pulseaudio from starting
[15:25] <brian_wilson> I`ve got to be doing something wrong
[15:26] <nuala> do 3 partitions /rootForSystemA /rootForSystemB /homeForBoth, make it all ext4 or alike, pick rootA and rootB for usernames. that should work... lazyily spoken…
[15:26] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: feel free to troubleshoot pulseaudio here then. Start by pastebin'ing the output of "apt-cache policy pulseaudio" and we can go from there
[15:27] <brian_wilson> alright, thank you, guys
[15:27] <nuala> another pulseaudio question from me: enable 'concurrent' playback from 2 different users, e.g. joe's firefox and jane's cmus (both local users)
[15:28] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: also pastebin:  systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service
[15:29] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: of course, we can really only troubleshoot if you have a /home created by Ubuntu. If it was created by another distro, that is an environment which isn't supported
[15:29] <brian_wilson> leftyfb sure, thank you
[15:30] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: are you going to post the pastebin outputs?
[15:31] <ioria> figure002, ~/.config/goa-1.0/accounts.conf      ?
[15:32] <leftyfb> ioria: just backing up and restore that isn't going to work.
[15:32] <brian_wilson> leftyfb later; I managed to solve the issue by reinstalling and executing chown on pulse config folders. I'm now going to try a complete fresh install with /home partition created by ubuntu installer and see what happens lol
[15:33] <nuala> re me: jane get Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory from ^systemctl, joe (logged in via gnome) has green lights all along from systemctl. I think i tried `load-module module-native-protocol-unix socket=/tmp/somename?` in /etc/pulse/system.conf. I have just discovered daemon.conf as well; and i cant make much sense of …pulse/client.conf.d/01-enable-autospawn.conf at all *continues poking in
[15:33] <nuala> the clouds*
[15:33] <leftyfb> ioria: hm, though restoring that and he keyrings might actually work :)
[15:34] <figure002> ioria: Ah yes, that file contains the accounts I added. I wonder if copying that file to a different computer has effect.
[15:34] <ioria> leftyfb, honestly, i never used Online accounts :þ
[15:34] <leftyfb> figure002: you'll need to restore that and your gnome keyring
[15:34] <figure002> leftyfb: OK, where is that one stored?
[15:34] <leftyfb> ioria: I'm building an ansible playbook to restore my laptop after a rebuild. I'll be testing that ASAP
[15:34] <Luyin> I would like to wipe an existing partition schema for my ubuntu 16.04, and replace it with an unencrypted partition for /boot and one for the rest. the second one I want to encrypt with LUKS. is that possible in ubuntu? I don't want to reinstall, if possible, but just re-play an existing backup as soon as the partitioning is set up.
[15:35] <ioria> oky
[15:36] <figure002> leftyfb: I actually used that yesterday to restore a new laptop I bought. Works perfectly.
[15:36] <figure002> leftyfb: an Ansible playbook I mean.
[15:36] <leftyfb> figure002: I know. Mine is pretty involved. As for the keyring, that's stored in ~/.local/share/keyrings
[15:37] <figure002> leftyfb: Thanks! Going to test it right now.
[15:44] <figure002> leftyfb, ioria: It works! :D
[15:44] <figure002> I didn't even have to logout/login, it works immediately after copying the files.
[15:44] <ioria> figure002, good job
[16:14] <nuala> i want to run pulseaudio as system-wide daemon,
[16:15] <nuala> (and hit enter … my bad… uh quick wrap up: i can't seem to disable autospawning. i am pretty sure i did all of https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/SystemWide/
[16:17] <nuala> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dbmCmCzr9D/
[16:19] <nuala> (((not related to my issue but the feeling with every pulseaudio issue ^^; https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50419110/sound-on-system-but-pulseaudio-access-denied-issue#comment110059381_60164257 )))
[18:04] <babyswizz> newbie here. been trying to open a GUI application from getty but getting the no display environment variable specified error. How do I get the correct address of my display?
[18:04] <EriC^^> export DISPLAY=:0
[18:04] <babyswizz> does not work for me
[18:06] <babyswizz> I get a unable to init server: could not connect: connection refused
[18:06] <babyswizz> error
[18:07] <EriC^^> babyswizz: what does 'ps aux | grep xorg' give you?
[18:09] <babyswizz> jesse 1158 0.0 0.0 6076 888 tty2   S+ 19:07 0:00 grep xorg
[18:58] <mort> hey, what's the appropriate way to handle logs? I have a pretty small root partition (which also contains /var/log), and I have 12GB of syslog and kern.log there
[18:59] <mort> Are there some parameters to tune how large the log files should be?
[19:07] <geirha> you can adjust the logrotate config
[19:11] <Elec_A> Hi, I'm getting this error when I'm opening an app on my ubuntu, do you know how to fix it?  "Cannot open -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* font"
[19:12] <geirha> mort: looks like the default for /var/log/syslog is to just rotate daily, but you can adjust it to also/instead rotate it when it gets larger than a certain size. See ''man logrotate.conf''
[19:36] <ioria> Elec_A, what app ?
[19:38] <Elec_A> ioria It's an old one designed for our institute for internal operations.
[19:39] <ioria> Elec_A, try to install xfonts-75dpi
[19:39] <Elec_A> ioria I have done that.
[19:39] <Elec_A> no success.
[19:39] <ioria> Elec_A, try to install xfonts-100dpi
[19:40] <Elec_A> the same error pops-up. I actually did install xfonts-*
[19:40] <ioria> ha
[19:41] <Elec_A> ioria https://paste.opensuse.org/703800
[19:42] <ioria> Elec_A, 271 not upgraded. not good for sure
[19:43] <Elec_A> Yeah, but I tend to not touch things when they work.
[19:43] <pagios>       [=>...................]  check =  8.6% (339470976/3906360128) finish=311.6min speed=190747K/sec seeing this in /proc/mdstat does it mean the raid is rebuilding ?
[19:46] <rfm> pagios, yes, usually happens after a abrupt shutdown (kernel panic, power interruption...)
[19:47] <pagios> hmm the system is up since 16 days
[19:48] <rfm> pagios, I'd look through the syslog then and see if there were any disk io errors recorded.  could be a disk going bad, loose cable, etc.
[19:49] <pagios> rfm: one more question please, if a vm is running on host with 2 disk, 1 vdi and another vmdk, and i take a vm snapshot using virtualbox snapshots, will both disks be snapshotted? they are attached disks to the vm
[19:51] <rfm> pagios, yes both disks will be snapshotted by default (I seem to recall there's a way to disable it, but you'd probably remember if you did that...)
[19:54] <pagios> rfm: so for instance if a ransomeware hits, you can recover the data using that snapshot right?
[19:56] <pagios> rfm: i am noticing the system is very slow when rebuilding that soft raid1, is this normal?
[20:00] <rfm> pagios, yeah the data should go back to the snapshotted state.  doesn't sound like a good backup strategy though.    yes, the system will be slow during resilvering. I think there's a sysparm for throttling it so it doesn't slow down other work as much (but takes longer to complete)
[20:13] <jkwnki2> hi, just wanted to install youtube-dl package on wsl ubuntu 20.04. are these massive dependencies common on ubuntu: https://bpa.st/UWDQ  ?
[20:17] <jeremy31> jkwnki2: Not common on Ubuntu as it only wants to install these on Ubuntu- ffmpeg libavresample4 python3-pyxattr rtmpdump
[20:27] <jatt> probably you don't need those if you don't want to process the youtube stream, youtube-dl from git works fine with minimal dependencies
[20:48] <VMGuy23> I recently changed hard drive, and Ubuntu goes into emergency mode and fails to automount. I have changed the UUIDs in grub.cfg and fstab and it still happens, any help?
[20:49] <VMGuy23> I'm currently booted into a Mint install live environment but I have Ubuntu 20.10 installed dual-booting with Windows 10
[20:53] <VMGuy23> I need help on this, Ubuntu won't boot at all.
[20:53] <VMGuy23> (except for emergency mode)
[20:53] <VMGuy23> Ctrl+D just takes a while before going back to emergency mode
[20:58] <cbreak> does that mean that your grub doesn't find your kernel?
[20:59] <VMGuy23> GRUB boots Ubuntu fine after grub.cfg change but Ubuntu cant find /boot/efi
[20:59] <cbreak> did you rerun the grub config compilation / writing?
[21:00] <VMGuy23> I don't think its grub, I replaced all references to old UUID with new UUID
[21:00] <cbreak> and rerun the update-grub command?
[21:00] <cbreak> hmm...
[21:00] <VMGuy23> but I cant really, I tried while chrooted on a Mint live environment and it errors
[21:00] <cbreak> and you said you also changed /etc/fstab
[21:00] <VMGuy23> Yes
[21:01] <cbreak> wonder if those init rd thingies have their own copy of that file
[21:01] <VMGuy23> Yeah
[21:01] <VMGuy23> I got to ggo now
[21:17] <jkwnki2> jatt: you mean from github, right?
[21:27] <kevinnn> hi all, I am using xvfb on my machine to virtualize an instance of X. However when I xvnc into it the UI doesn't look quite right. It is missing the side doc for one. I used this command to start it: gnome-session --session=ubuntu
[21:27] <kevinnn> is there another command I should be aware of to start the full ubuntu UI?
[21:28] <kevinnn> here is my full command for anyone who is curious
[21:28] <kevinnn> DISPLAY=:1 gnome-session --session=ubuntu
[21:29] <Newb101> Hi, what is the best way to encrypt my working drive?
[21:34] <cbreak> I'd use zfs... but it's not trivial
[21:35] <kevinnn> gnome-shell also doesn't work... there's nothing online on how to start the ubuntu UI from terminal :(
[21:35] <Newb101> i mean just to encryt my hard drive
[21:35] <Newb101> encrypt
[21:40] <VMGuy23> did update-grub as root and nothing happened
[21:41] <VMGuy23> i cant use my computer right now, im in bed, but do you have any idea how i might fix this?
[21:42] <VMGuy23> from logs from before the drive change, it seems systemd-resolved mounts the efi partition
[21:43] <Newb101> what about LUKS?
[21:44] <VMGuy23> what's that
[21:44] <Newb101> i waS refering to my question
[21:44] <VMGuy23> oh
[21:45] <kevinnn> does anyone know how to start the ubuntu UI via cli and select a specific X11 display to show it on
[21:45] <VMGuy23> what do you mean by 'Ubuntu ui'
[21:46] <kevinnn> like the ubuntu GUI
[21:46] <kevinnn> the one that is installed on 20.04 desktop by default
[21:46] <kevinnn> I think it is gnome right?
[21:46] <kevinnn> can't figure out how to start it properly
[21:46] <VMGuy23> startx should work
[21:46] <VMGuy23> i think
[21:48] <kevinnn> nope:(  that displays nothing
[21:48] <VMGuy23> just a blank screen?
[21:48] <kevinnn> yup
[21:49] <VMGuy23> startx --help should show help for x, probably has monitor configuration
[21:53] <Bashing-om> kevinnn: Try the systemd way ' sudo systemctl start gdm3.service ' from the terminal.
[21:53] <kevinnn> Bashing-om: where do I pass in the DISPLAY parameter?
[21:55] <kevinnn> yea just running that command by itself does nothing, I assume it is the same reason VMGuy23's suggestion didn't work. Need to pass in DISPLAY some how
[21:55] <VMGuy23> bashing-om: he wants gnome, not gdm
[21:55] <Bashing-om> kevinnn: Well, one can also explicitly set the target as for instance ' export DISPLAY=:0.0 ' as 1st display.
[21:55] <kevinnn> I did set that already
[21:55] <kevinnn> and still nothing
[21:56] <VMGuy23> Kevinn: look at startx --help for help on starting gnome
[21:56] <Bashing-om> VMGuy23: gdm == Gnome Display Manager :D
[21:56] <VMGuy23> gnome display manager != gnome
[21:56] <kevinnn> VMGuy23: do you mean the man pages?
[21:57] <VMGuy23> Kevinnn no, add --help to the end of the startx command
[21:58] <kevinnn> VMGuy23: lol so I plugged in a monitor to the computer itself. startx is starting a UI on the main display, not the virtual display I created
[21:58] <kevinnn> Bashing-om: same with your suggestion
[21:59] <VMGuy23> in 'startx --help' there should be info on display configuration for the x server
[21:59] <kevinnn> I believe startx is starting an x server. where as I already have an x server started, I just need to connect the Ubuntu GUI to it
[22:00] <kevinnn> are you sure it is --help? that isn't working. I think you mean the man pages right>
[22:00] <kevinnn> ?
[22:00] <VMGuy23> what' it saying when you do --help
[22:01] <kevinnn> https://pastebin.com/tBD5NmUw
[22:01] <VMGuy23> be back in a minute
[22:03] <VMGuy23> it wont let me click on the link, what's the first line
[22:04] <Maik> VMGuy23: GNOME Display Manager (GDM) is a display manager (a graphical login manager) for the windowing systems X11 and Wayland.
[22:04] <VMGuy23> maik yes, but the term gnome generally means gnome desktop environment
[22:05] <Maik> sure
[22:06] <VMGuy23> gdm is gnome display manager
[22:06] <VMGuy23> ima go on #freenode now
[22:09] <kevinnn> VMGuy23: apologies for the delay the first line is "X.Org X Server 1.20.9"
[22:10] <Maik> he's gone kevinnn
[22:10] <kevinnn> ah darn
[22:10] <kevinnn> does anyone else have any suggestions?
[22:11] <kevinnn> jesus it shouldn't be this difficult to get the command that starts the ubuntu UI
[22:11] <V|A> i  dont even  know whats  a "ubuntu UI"
[22:11] <V|A> but  im  new so eh
[22:27] <cbreak> what's wrong with startx?
[22:27] <cbreak> it'll normally start X, and run what ever your window manager is
[22:27] <kevinnn> it displays the UI on the monitor
[22:27] <kevinnn> but I need it in Xvfb
[22:28] <leftyfb> kevinnn: try x11vnc
[22:29] <kevinnn> leftyfb: try it how? VNC into my Xvfb session? if that is what you are suggesting I already am
[22:30] <kevinnn> that is how I know startx isn't working
[22:30] <kevinnn> it isn't selecting the right display
[22:31] <leftyfb> kevinnn: if you use x11vn instead of whatver "xvnc" is, it should give you the local running X session as opposed to opening a new one
[22:31] <cbreak> I'd try reading /etc/X11/Xsession and /etc/X11/Xsession.d/*
[22:31] <leftyfb> kevinnn: can I ask, why this very non-standard way of doing things?
[22:32] <kevinnn> leftyfb: this is for a headless server...
[22:32] <leftyfb> kevinnn: then why do you need X at all?
[22:32] <kevinnn> I am testing it locally before deploying it to a server that is why I am able to connect a monitor to it for now
[22:33] <kevinnn> all I need... is to run Xvfb and then run the whole Ubuntu UI right on Xvfb
[22:33] <leftyfb> why?
[22:33] <kevinnn> well remote desktop really. I want a bunch of servers that I can remote into that have UIs
[22:34] <cbreak> weird
[22:34] <leftyfb> kevinnn: why do you need a remote UI exactly? I'm asking because there are probably much easier/better ways of accomplishing your end goal
[22:34] <cbreak> all my servers are administred via ssh (ansible)
[22:34] <cbreak> even those with lots of GPUs
[22:35] <kevinnn> well I mean this is for work... when my boss asks me to set up several VPS's that he can VNC into that have the Ubuntu UI (because any other UI scares him apparently) then I have to do it you know?
[22:36] <leftyfb> kevinnn: why not run a full VM on the remote server?
[22:37] <kevinnn> well I already have several VPS's deployed that I must use
[22:38] <kevinnn> I wish I could just deploy a regular VM...
[22:39] <cbreak> sounds weird
[22:39] <cbreak> but I just tried to ssh -X my-linux-thing
[22:39] <cbreak> and then  gnome-session --disable-acceleration-check
[22:39] <cbreak> and it didn't instantly crash
[22:39] <cbreak> (just later :P)
[22:41] <kevinnn> yes... it is a bit odd. But I think it is equally odd that I can't set which $DISPLAY ubuntu shows it's UI on
[22:49] <superleaf1995> im still having the problem where gimp only displays box instead of text
[22:49] <superleaf1995> boxes like this one -> []
[22:49] <superleaf1995> i already flushed font cache
[22:49] <superleaf1995> and did the thing a SO question said
[22:49] <superleaf1995> still no avail. any suggestions?
[22:53] <figure002> superleaf1995: even with different font?
[23:11] <Maik> superleaf1995: try installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:13] <superleaf1995> k
[23:13] <Maik> it pulls in missing codecs and ttf-mscore-fonts, could be that you miss the latter and why you see the boxes instead of text
[23:13] <Maik> i could also be wrong but it's worth a try
[23:16] <superleaf1995> installed mscore and restricted
[23:16] <superleaf1995> still gimp boxes
[23:18] <Maik> all language packs installed and up to date? You can pull those in via Language Support
[23:19] <Maik> if that doesn't work, then i don't know
[23:19] <superleaf1995> eok
[23:19] <oerheks> logout/login to let those fonts take effect
[23:19] <superleaf1995> oh ok
[23:20] <Maik> thanks oerheks, forgot about that
[23:21] <superleaf1995> back
[23:21] <superleaf1995> no effect
[23:21] <oerheks> :-)
[23:21] <superleaf1995> still boxes
[23:21] <oerheks> how did you install gimp?
[23:22] <superleaf1995> sudo apt-get install gimp
[23:22] <oerheks> snap or apt?
[23:22] <superleaf1995> apt
[23:23] <oerheks> weird, not installed properly or a theme is not working
[23:23] <oerheks> try to reinstall, apt install --reinstall
[23:24] <superleaf1995> ok
[23:24] <superleaf1995> still box
[23:26] <Maik> superleaf1995: whch version of Ubuntu is that on and do you have ADM or a nVidia graphics card?
[23:26] <Maik> whch/which
[23:26] <superleaf1995> i have a pentium e280 with no gpu
[23:26] <superleaf1995> and i am using ubuntu 20.04, upgraded from 16.04
[23:27] <Maik> so i guess it's a Intel graphics card
[23:27] <superleaf1995> yes
[23:27] <superleaf1995> potato intel card from 3rd world country, opengl 2.0
[23:28] <oerheks> i guess gimp never worked on that machine before
[23:29] <superleaf1995> it did
[23:29] <superleaf1995> until it magically didn't
[23:30] <superleaf1995> so i removed unity from ubuntu
[23:30] <superleaf1995> then installed xfce4
[23:30] <superleaf1995> and then installed the indigo theme, gimp worked ok
[23:30] <superleaf1995> then one day, without explanation, stopped working
[23:31] <superleaf1995> pd: i have been using xfce4 + indigo until recently gimp started doing this
[23:33] <oerheks> oh, searching for linux + indogo pops up serious problems
[23:33] <oerheks> good it is not in our repos
[23:35] <Maik> installing stuff from outside the official repo's is always at own risk and not supported
[23:36] <superleaf1995> oh
[23:37] <superleaf1995> its just a theme
[23:37] <superleaf1995> on xfce4, i don't think it could affect fonts???
[23:38] <Maik> if a theme isn't well written it can cause issues too
[23:38] <superleaf1995> damn
[23:39] <superleaf1995> oh god
[23:39] <superleaf1995> indigo was causing problemw
[23:39] <superleaf1995> damn, ir eally wanted that solaris look
[23:39] <oerheks> remove it, or meybe better do a fresh install?
[23:40] <superleaf1995> can't, just 1.4gb of freee space and comptuer is old