| teward | *summons the DMB* | 13:49 |
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| teward | nvm 1h12m. stupid DST | 13:51 |
| teward | *resummons the DMB* | 14:57 |
| ddstreet | o/ | 14:57 |
| rafaeldtinoco | o/ | 14:57 |
| teward | see I LIVE today! :P | 14:58 |
| teward | we need at least 1 more | 14:58 |
| teward | rbasak: you alive? | 14:58 |
| GunnarHj | I'm here, ready for a hearing. :) | 15:00 |
| teward | well | 15:00 |
| teward | i'm going to give it a few more minutes for another member to show up | 15:01 |
| teward | 'cause we aren't quorate | 15:01 |
| teward | three of us does not a quorum make. | 15:01 |
| rbasak | o/ | 15:01 |
| teward | now there's 4 of us. | 15:01 |
| teward | now where's my meetingology guide again... *forgot* | 15:01 |
| teward | #startmeeting DMB Meeting - April 5, 2021 | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 15:01:55 UTC. The chair is teward. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick | 15:01 |
| teward | #chairs ddstreet rafaeldtinoco rbasak teward | 15:02 |
| teward | #chair ddstreet rafaeldtinoco rbasak teward | 15:02 |
| teward | screw you too bot | 15:02 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: ddstreet, rafaeldtinoco, rbasak, teward | 15:02 |
| teward | welcome to the APril 5th DMB meeting! | 15:02 |
| teward | So let's review the last action items | 15:02 |
| teward | #topic Previous Action Items Review | 15:02 |
| teward | ... I guess meetingology is being slow and needs a kick but I'mma continue | 15:03 |
| teward | #subtopic ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over) | 15:03 |
| ddstreet | carry again please | 15:03 |
| teward | ok | 15:03 |
| teward | #subtopic ddstreet to reduce the scope of meeting scheduling mistakes | 15:04 |
| teward | i see you revised the agenda page | 15:04 |
| ddstreet | yeah, if everyone is ok with the changes, this is done | 15:04 |
| teward | nice. moving on | 15:04 |
| teward | #subtopic rbasak to announce waveform's successful application | 15:04 |
| rbasak | Done | 15:04 |
| teward | nice | 15:05 |
| teward | #subtopic rbasak to add waveform's PPU ACL items | 15:05 |
| rbasak | Done | 15:05 |
| teward | and... | 15:05 |
| teward | #subtopic rbasak to resolve Alex's request for an alternate meeting venue/time for his application | 15:05 |
| rbasak | I think that's resolved now, but I should follow up and confirm in the ML now that we have a quorate number of members saying they can make it. | 15:06 |
| rbasak | Unless there are objections, I'll change the meeting time on that particular day to the agreed time (so no meeting at the usual time - the regular meeting will move for that day only) | 15:06 |
| teward | so should i leave that action item until you confirm there's a quorate number of members? | 15:07 |
| rbasak | Sure | 15:07 |
| teward | ok | 15:07 |
| teward | gimme 1 second to catch up i'm writing the agenda in gedit as we go because the bot's fubar | 15:07 |
| teward | so we have no packageset/ppu applications or SRU developer applications and Alex is still pending the ML stuff so | 15:08 |
| teward | #topic Ubuntu Core Developer Applications | 15:08 |
| teward | #subtopic Gunnar Hjalmarsson | 15:08 |
| teward | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GunnarHj/CoreDevApplication | 15:08 |
| teward | GunnarHj: hello! Please introduce yourself and say a bit about you while we review your application and come up with any questions for you! | 15:08 |
| GunnarHj | Hi DMB! | 15:09 |
| GunnarHj | I've been around for a decade, and have contributed with desktop and i18n stuff mostly. My special profile has resulted in a need to touch quite a few packages both in main and universe. So finally I decided to apply for core-dev to make life easier both for me and my sponsors. | 15:11 |
| rbasak | Hello! | 15:11 |
| rbasak | Can you tell us what steps you would expect to take if one of your uploads gets stuck in proposed? | 15:12 |
| GunnarHj | I would visit the excuses page to find out the reason. Maybe retry some tests, or maybe dig deeper into the cause if needed. | 15:13 |
| rbasak | OK, thanks. | 15:14 |
| rbasak | And what would you do if you want to add a new feature to a package three weeks before release? | 15:14 |
| GunnarHj | File a FFe request bug. | 15:15 |
| rbasak | Thank you :) | 15:15 |
| rafaeldtinoco | seb did a good job in his endorsement (splitting cases by MIR, FFe, etc) | 15:16 |
| rafaeldtinoco | GunnarHj: I see your merges given as examples are 'recent' and the most complex one is gnome-terminal (I guess) | 15:17 |
| rafaeldtinoco | no questions from me | 15:18 |
| GunnarHj | rafaeldtinoco: That's probably true. | 15:18 |
| teward | no questions from me. | 15:19 |
| rbasak | GunnarHj: what do you know of seeds and transitions? | 15:20 |
| GunnarHj | rbasak: I'm quite familiar with the seeds, and have submitted a few related merge requests during the years. Not sure which kind of transitions you mean, though. | 15:21 |
| rbasak | I mean library transitions - soname bumps. | 15:22 |
| GunnarHj | rbasak: Ah, thanks. Can't say I have dealt with it much, but I remember one case (libpinyin) a couple of years ago. | 15:23 |
| rbasak | What would you do if you are uploading a package that involves a soname bump? | 15:23 |
| rbasak | And how would you recognise that this is the case? | 15:24 |
| GunnarHj | I'd need to make sure to get the dependencies right, and probably refresh the symbols file if any. | 15:25 |
| rafaeldtinoco | 1.1.1+git20200624+ds2-10ubuntu1 (example of symbols change from GunnarHj, not necessarily because of SONAME bump) | 15:26 |
| rafaeldtinoco | opencc ^ | 15:26 |
| rafaeldtinoco | coming from debian in this case | 15:27 |
| GunnarHj | rafaeldtinoco: That was for another reason (A MIR team request for a symbols file). | 15:27 |
| rafaeldtinoco | yep, I saw it later | 15:27 |
| rbasak | OK, tanks | 15:28 |
| rbasak | thanks | 15:28 |
| rbasak | No more questions from me. | 15:28 |
| rafaeldtinoco | ddstreet: ^ | 15:28 |
| ddstreet | none from me | 15:28 |
| ddstreet | i think we're ready to vote teward | 15:29 |
| teward | yep 1 moment phone just rang | 15:29 |
| teward | !vote Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev | 15:30 |
| ubottu | teward: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 15:30 |
| teward | #vote Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname') | 15:30 |
| rbasak | +1 GunnarHj has a long and excellent track record in contributions and uploads directly in Ubuntu. I'm confident that he will make an excellent core dev. Thank you for your work! | 15:30 |
| meetingology | +1 GunnarHj has a long and excellent track record in contributions and uploads directly in Ubuntu. I'm confident that he will make an excellent core dev. Thank you for your work! received from rbasak | 15:30 |
| teward | #voters rbasak teward rafaeldtinoco ddstreet | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Current voters: ddstreet, rafaeldtinoco, rbasak, teward | 15:30 |
| teward | +1 | 15:30 |
| meetingology | +1 received from teward | 15:30 |
| ddstreet | +1 | 15:30 |
| meetingology | +1 received from ddstreet | 15:30 |
| teward | rafaeldtinoco: ^ | 15:31 |
| rafaeldtinoco | Im very happy with the work GunnarHj has been doing. Despite his 'limited technical skills' as phrased by him, I think he will be a great addiction to the core dev team . Thank you for all your work and +1 from me. | 15:31 |
| rafaeldtinoco | +1 | 15:31 |
| meetingology | +1 received from rafaeldtinoco | 15:31 |
| teward | #endvote | 15:31 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev | 15:31 |
| meetingology | Votes for: 4, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0 | 15:31 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 15:31 |
| ddstreet | congrats! | 15:31 |
| teward | Congratulations GunnarHj! | 15:31 |
| rafaeldtinoco | GunnarHj: congratulations | 15:31 |
| rbasak | Congratulations! | 15:31 |
| rafaeldtinoco | and thanks! | 15:31 |
| GunnarHj | Wow, thanks for your showed trust in me. :) | 15:32 |
| rbasak | GunnarHj had a special arrangement with a glob-based packageset that I think we can remove now | 15:32 |
| teward | who wants to handle the rights assignment, removal of the packageset rights, and announcement? (won't be me i'm busy this week) | 15:32 |
| rbasak | I don't think that needs a vote because it's effectively a no-op in terms of ACL capability for him, just a tidy up. | 15:32 |
| rbasak | I can take the actions and I'll clean up at the same time. | 15:32 |
| teward | rbasak: agreed, doesn't need a vote 'cause we can just tidy it up | 15:32 |
| teward | cool | 15:32 |
| GunnarHj | rbasak: Indeed, that can be dropped. But please add me to core-dev first. | 15:32 |
| rbasak | GunnarHj: of course :) | 15:33 |
| teward | #action rbasak to handle GunnarHj core-dev rights, announcement, and post-coredev packageset/acl cleanups. | 15:33 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to handle GunnarHj core-dev rights, announcement, and post-coredev packageset/acl cleanups. | 15:33 |
| teward | there're no MOTU applications. so... | 15:33 |
| teward | #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign | 15:33 |
| teward | I don't know of any | 15:33 |
| teward | And we don't have any open TB bugs so... | 15:34 |
| teward | #action Next meeting chair | 15:34 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Next meeting chair | 15:34 |
| teward | Dan's listed as next | 15:34 |
| ddstreet | sounds good | 15:34 |
| teward | #topic Any Other Business | 15:34 |
| rafaeldtinoco | thanks for the agenda updates | 15:34 |
| rafaeldtinoco | much better now | 15:34 |
| rafaeldtinoco | with logs at the end | 15:35 |
| rafaeldtinoco | etc | 15:35 |
| teward | agreed | 15:35 |
| teward | any other business? | 15:35 |
| rafaeldtinoco | nope, thanks for chairing | 15:35 |
| teward | 5 | 15:35 |
| teward | 4 | 15:35 |
| teward | 3 | 15:35 |
| teward | 2 | 15:35 |
| teward | 1 | 15:35 |
| teward | thanks everyone! | 15:35 |
| rafaeldtinoco | and congrats again to GunnarHj | 15:35 |
| teward | #endmeeting | 15:35 |
| rafaeldtinoco | o/ | 15:35 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:35:59 UTC. Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-04-05-15.01.moin.txt | 15:35 |
| ddstreet | thanks all o/ | 15:36 |
| GunnarHj | Thanks all! | 15:36 |
| RikMills | GunnarHj: congratulations :) | 15:53 |
| GunnarHj | Thanks RikMills! | 15:53 |
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