[13:49] *summons the DMB* [13:51] nvm 1h12m. stupid DST [14:57] *resummons the DMB* [14:57] o/ [14:57] o/ [14:58] see I LIVE today! :P [14:58] we need at least 1 more [14:58] rbasak: you alive? [15:00] I'm here, ready for a hearing. :) [15:00] well [15:01] i'm going to give it a few more minutes for another member to show up [15:01] 'cause we aren't quorate [15:01] three of us does not a quorum make. [15:01] o/ [15:01] now there's 4 of us. [15:01] now where's my meetingology guide again... *forgot* [15:01] #startmeeting DMB Meeting - April 5, 2021 [15:01] Meeting started at 15:01:55 UTC. The chair is teward. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:01] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [15:02] #chairs ddstreet rafaeldtinoco rbasak teward [15:02] #chair ddstreet rafaeldtinoco rbasak teward [15:02] screw you too bot [15:02] Current chairs: ddstreet, rafaeldtinoco, rbasak, teward [15:02] welcome to the APril 5th DMB meeting! [15:02] So let's review the last action items [15:02] #topic Previous Action Items Review [15:03] ... I guess meetingology is being slow and needs a kick but I'mma continue [15:03] #subtopic ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over) [15:03] carry again please [15:03] ok [15:04] #subtopic ddstreet to reduce the scope of meeting scheduling mistakes [15:04] i see you revised the agenda page [15:04] yeah, if everyone is ok with the changes, this is done [15:04] nice. moving on [15:04] #subtopic rbasak to announce waveform's successful application [15:04] Done [15:05] nice [15:05] #subtopic rbasak to add waveform's PPU ACL items [15:05] Done [15:05] and... [15:05] #subtopic rbasak to resolve Alex's request for an alternate meeting venue/time for his application [15:06] I think that's resolved now, but I should follow up and confirm in the ML now that we have a quorate number of members saying they can make it. [15:06] Unless there are objections, I'll change the meeting time on that particular day to the agreed time (so no meeting at the usual time - the regular meeting will move for that day only) [15:07] so should i leave that action item until you confirm there's a quorate number of members? [15:07] Sure [15:07] ok [15:07] gimme 1 second to catch up i'm writing the agenda in gedit as we go because the bot's fubar [15:08] so we have no packageset/ppu applications or SRU developer applications and Alex is still pending the ML stuff so [15:08] #topic Ubuntu Core Developer Applications [15:08] #subtopic Gunnar Hjalmarsson [15:08] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GunnarHj/CoreDevApplication [15:08] GunnarHj: hello! Please introduce yourself and say a bit about you while we review your application and come up with any questions for you! [15:09] Hi DMB! [15:11] I've been around for a decade, and have contributed with desktop and i18n stuff mostly. My special profile has resulted in a need to touch quite a few packages both in main and universe. So finally I decided to apply for core-dev to make life easier both for me and my sponsors. [15:11] Hello! [15:12] Can you tell us what steps you would expect to take if one of your uploads gets stuck in proposed? [15:13] I would visit the excuses page to find out the reason. Maybe retry some tests, or maybe dig deeper into the cause if needed. [15:14] OK, thanks. [15:14] And what would you do if you want to add a new feature to a package three weeks before release? [15:15] File a FFe request bug. [15:15] Thank you :) [15:16] seb did a good job in his endorsement (splitting cases by MIR, FFe, etc) [15:17] GunnarHj: I see your merges given as examples are 'recent' and the most complex one is gnome-terminal (I guess) [15:18] no questions from me [15:18] rafaeldtinoco: That's probably true. [15:19] no questions from me. [15:20] GunnarHj: what do you know of seeds and transitions? [15:21] rbasak: I'm quite familiar with the seeds, and have submitted a few related merge requests during the years. Not sure which kind of transitions you mean, though. [15:22] I mean library transitions - soname bumps. [15:23] rbasak: Ah, thanks. Can't say I have dealt with it much, but I remember one case (libpinyin) a couple of years ago. [15:23] What would you do if you are uploading a package that involves a soname bump? [15:24] And how would you recognise that this is the case? [15:25] I'd need to make sure to get the dependencies right, and probably refresh the symbols file if any. [15:26] 1.1.1+git20200624+ds2-10ubuntu1 (example of symbols change from GunnarHj, not necessarily because of SONAME bump) [15:26] opencc ^ [15:27] coming from debian in this case [15:27] rafaeldtinoco: That was for another reason (A MIR team request for a symbols file). [15:27] yep, I saw it later [15:28] OK, tanks [15:28] thanks [15:28] No more questions from me. [15:28] ddstreet: ^ [15:28] none from me [15:29] i think we're ready to vote teward [15:29] yep 1 moment phone just rang [15:30] !vote Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev [15:30] teward: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [15:30] #vote Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev [15:30] Please vote on: Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev [15:30] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname') [15:30] +1 GunnarHj has a long and excellent track record in contributions and uploads directly in Ubuntu. I'm confident that he will make an excellent core dev. Thank you for your work! [15:30] +1 GunnarHj has a long and excellent track record in contributions and uploads directly in Ubuntu. I'm confident that he will make an excellent core dev. Thank you for your work! received from rbasak [15:30] #voters rbasak teward rafaeldtinoco ddstreet [15:30] Current voters: ddstreet, rafaeldtinoco, rbasak, teward [15:30] +1 [15:30] +1 received from teward [15:30] +1 [15:30] +1 received from ddstreet [15:31] rafaeldtinoco: ^ [15:31] Im very happy with the work GunnarHj has been doing. Despite his 'limited technical skills' as phrased by him, I think he will be a great addiction to the core dev team . Thank you for all your work and +1 from me. [15:31] +1 [15:31] +1 received from rafaeldtinoco [15:31] #endvote [15:31] Voting ended on: Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev [15:31] Votes for: 4, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0 [15:31] Motion carried [15:31] congrats! [15:31] Congratulations GunnarHj! [15:31] GunnarHj: congratulations [15:31] Congratulations! [15:31] and thanks! [15:32] Wow, thanks for your showed trust in me. :) [15:32] GunnarHj had a special arrangement with a glob-based packageset that I think we can remove now [15:32] who wants to handle the rights assignment, removal of the packageset rights, and announcement? (won't be me i'm busy this week) [15:32] I don't think that needs a vote because it's effectively a no-op in terms of ACL capability for him, just a tidy up. [15:32] I can take the actions and I'll clean up at the same time. [15:32] rbasak: agreed, doesn't need a vote 'cause we can just tidy it up [15:32] cool [15:32] rbasak: Indeed, that can be dropped. But please add me to core-dev first. [15:33] GunnarHj: of course :) [15:33] #action rbasak to handle GunnarHj core-dev rights, announcement, and post-coredev packageset/acl cleanups. [15:33] ACTION: rbasak to handle GunnarHj core-dev rights, announcement, and post-coredev packageset/acl cleanups. [15:33] there're no MOTU applications. so... [15:33] #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign [15:33] I don't know of any [15:34] And we don't have any open TB bugs so... [15:34] #action Next meeting chair [15:34] ACTION: Next meeting chair [15:34] Dan's listed as next [15:34] sounds good [15:34] #topic Any Other Business [15:34] thanks for the agenda updates [15:34] much better now [15:35] with logs at the end [15:35] etc [15:35] agreed [15:35] any other business? [15:35] nope, thanks for chairing [15:35] 5 [15:35] 4 [15:35] 3 [15:35] 2 [15:35] 1 [15:35] thanks everyone! [15:35] and congrats again to GunnarHj [15:35] #endmeeting [15:35] o/ [15:35] Meeting ended at 15:35:59 UTC. Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-04-05-15.01.moin.txt [15:36] thanks all o/ [15:36] Thanks all! [15:53] GunnarHj: congratulations :) [15:53] Thanks RikMills!