[13:49] <teward> *summons the DMB*
[13:51] <teward> nvm 1h12m.  stupid DST
[14:57] <teward> *resummons the DMB*
[14:57] <ddstreet> o/
[14:57] <rafaeldtinoco> o/
[14:58] <teward> see I LIVE today!  :P
[14:58] <teward> we need at least 1 more
[14:58] <teward> rbasak: you alive?
[15:00] <GunnarHj> I'm here, ready for a hearing. :)
[15:00] <teward> well
[15:01] <teward> i'm going to give it a few more minutes for another member to show up
[15:01] <teward> 'cause we aren't quorate
[15:01] <teward> three of us does not a quorum make.
[15:01] <rbasak> o/
[15:01] <teward> now there's 4 of us.
[15:01] <teward> now where's my meetingology guide again... *forgot*
[15:01] <teward> #startmeeting DMB Meeting - April 5, 2021
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:01:55 UTC.  The chair is teward.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
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[15:02] <teward> #chairs ddstreet rafaeldtinoco rbasak teward
[15:02] <teward> #chair ddstreet rafaeldtinoco rbasak teward
[15:02] <teward> screw you too bot
[15:02] <meetingology> Current chairs: ddstreet, rafaeldtinoco, rbasak, teward
[15:02] <teward> welcome to the APril 5th DMB meeting!
[15:02] <teward> So let's review the last action items
[15:02] <teward> #topic Previous Action Items Review
[15:03] <teward> ... I guess meetingology is being slow and needs a kick but I'mma continue
[15:03] <teward> #subtopic ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over)
[15:03] <ddstreet> carry again please
[15:03] <teward> ok
[15:04] <teward> #subtopic ddstreet to reduce the scope of meeting scheduling mistakes
[15:04] <teward> i see you revised the agenda page
[15:04] <ddstreet> yeah, if everyone is ok with the changes, this is done
[15:04] <teward> nice.  moving on
[15:04] <teward> #subtopic rbasak to announce waveform's successful application
[15:04] <rbasak> Done
[15:05] <teward> nice
[15:05] <teward> #subtopic rbasak to add waveform's PPU ACL items
[15:05] <rbasak> Done
[15:05] <teward> and...
[15:05] <teward> #subtopic rbasak to resolve Alex's request for an alternate meeting venue/time for his application
[15:06] <rbasak> I think that's resolved now, but I should follow up and confirm in the ML now that we have a quorate number of members saying they can make it.
[15:06] <rbasak> Unless there are objections, I'll change the meeting time on that particular day to the agreed time (so no meeting at the usual time - the regular meeting will move for that day only)
[15:07] <teward> so should i leave that action item until you confirm there's a quorate number of members?
[15:07] <rbasak> Sure
[15:07] <teward> ok
[15:07] <teward> gimme 1 second to catch up i'm writing the agenda in gedit as we go because the bot's fubar
[15:08] <teward> so we have no packageset/ppu applications or SRU developer applications and Alex is still pending the ML stuff so
[15:08] <teward> #topic Ubuntu Core Developer Applications
[15:08] <teward> #subtopic Gunnar Hjalmarsson
[15:08] <teward> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GunnarHj/CoreDevApplication
[15:08] <teward> GunnarHj: hello!  Please introduce yourself and say a bit about you while we review your application and come up with any questions for you!
[15:09] <GunnarHj> Hi DMB!
[15:11] <GunnarHj> I've been around for a decade, and have contributed with desktop and i18n stuff mostly. My special profile has resulted in a need to touch quite a few packages both in main and universe. So finally I decided to apply for core-dev to make life easier both for me and my sponsors.
[15:11] <rbasak> Hello!
[15:12] <rbasak> Can you tell us what steps you would expect to take if one of your uploads gets stuck in proposed?
[15:13] <GunnarHj> I would visit the excuses page to find out the reason. Maybe retry some tests, or maybe dig deeper into the cause if needed.
[15:14] <rbasak> OK, thanks.
[15:14] <rbasak> And what would you do if you want to add a new feature to a package three weeks before release?
[15:15] <GunnarHj> File a FFe request bug.
[15:15] <rbasak> Thank you :)
[15:16] <rafaeldtinoco> seb did a good job in his endorsement (splitting cases by MIR, FFe, etc)
[15:17] <rafaeldtinoco> GunnarHj: I see your merges given as examples are 'recent' and the most complex one is gnome-terminal (I guess)
[15:18] <rafaeldtinoco> no questions from me
[15:18] <GunnarHj> rafaeldtinoco: That's probably true.
[15:19] <teward> no questions from me.
[15:20] <rbasak> GunnarHj: what do you know of seeds and transitions?
[15:21] <GunnarHj> rbasak: I'm quite familiar with the seeds, and have submitted a few related merge requests during the years. Not sure which kind of transitions you mean, though.
[15:22] <rbasak> I mean library transitions - soname bumps.
[15:23] <GunnarHj> rbasak: Ah, thanks. Can't say I have dealt with it much, but I remember one case (libpinyin) a couple of years ago.
[15:23] <rbasak> What would you do if you are uploading a package that involves a soname bump?
[15:24] <rbasak> And how would you recognise that this is the case?
[15:25] <GunnarHj> I'd need to make sure to get the dependencies right, and probably refresh the symbols file if any.
[15:26] <rafaeldtinoco> 1.1.1+git20200624+ds2-10ubuntu1 (example of symbols change from GunnarHj, not necessarily because of SONAME bump)
[15:26] <rafaeldtinoco> opencc ^
[15:27] <rafaeldtinoco> coming from debian in this case
[15:27] <GunnarHj> rafaeldtinoco: That was for another reason (A MIR team request for a symbols file).
[15:27] <rafaeldtinoco> yep, I saw it later
[15:28] <rbasak> OK, tanks
[15:28] <rbasak> thanks
[15:28] <rbasak> No more questions from me.
[15:28] <rafaeldtinoco> ddstreet: ^
[15:28] <ddstreet> none from me
[15:29] <ddstreet> i think we're ready to vote teward
[15:29] <teward> yep 1 moment phone just rang
[15:30] <teward> !vote Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev
[15:30] <teward> #vote Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev
[15:30] <meetingology> Please vote on: Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev
[15:30] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
[15:30] <rbasak> +1 GunnarHj has a long and excellent track record in contributions and uploads directly in Ubuntu. I'm confident that he will make an excellent core dev. Thank you for your work!
[15:30] <meetingology> +1 GunnarHj has a long and excellent track record in contributions and uploads directly in Ubuntu. I'm confident that he will make an excellent core dev. Thank you for your work! received from rbasak
[15:30] <teward> #voters rbasak teward rafaeldtinoco ddstreet
[15:30] <meetingology> Current voters: ddstreet, rafaeldtinoco, rbasak, teward
[15:30] <teward> +1
[15:30] <meetingology> +1 received from teward
[15:30] <ddstreet> +1
[15:30] <meetingology> +1 received from ddstreet
[15:31] <teward> rafaeldtinoco: ^
[15:31] <rafaeldtinoco> Im very happy with the work GunnarHj has been doing. Despite his 'limited technical skills' as phrased by him, I think he will be a great addiction to the core dev team . Thank you for all your work and +1 from me.
[15:31] <rafaeldtinoco> +1
[15:31] <meetingology> +1 received from rafaeldtinoco
[15:31] <teward> #endvote
[15:31] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Gunnar Hjalmarsson CoreDev
[15:31] <meetingology> Votes for: 4, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0
[15:31] <meetingology> Motion carried
[15:31] <ddstreet> congrats!
[15:31] <teward> Congratulations GunnarHj!
[15:31] <rafaeldtinoco> GunnarHj: congratulations
[15:31] <rbasak> Congratulations!
[15:31] <rafaeldtinoco> and thanks!
[15:32] <GunnarHj> Wow, thanks for your showed trust in me. :)
[15:32] <rbasak> GunnarHj had a special arrangement with a glob-based packageset that I think we can remove now
[15:32] <teward> who wants to handle the rights assignment, removal of the packageset rights, and announcement?  (won't be me i'm busy this week)
[15:32] <rbasak> I don't think that needs a vote because it's effectively a no-op in terms of ACL capability for him, just a tidy up.
[15:32] <rbasak> I can take the actions and I'll clean up at the same time.
[15:32] <teward> rbasak: agreed, doesn't need a vote 'cause we can just tidy it up
[15:32] <teward> cool
[15:32] <GunnarHj> rbasak: Indeed, that can be dropped. But please add me to core-dev first.
[15:33] <rbasak> GunnarHj: of course :)
[15:33] <teward> #action rbasak to handle GunnarHj core-dev rights, announcement, and post-coredev packageset/acl cleanups.
[15:33] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to handle GunnarHj core-dev rights, announcement, and post-coredev packageset/acl cleanups.
[15:33] <teward> there're no MOTU applications. so...
[15:33] <teward> #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign
[15:33] <teward> I don't know of any
[15:34] <teward> And we don't have any open TB bugs so...
[15:34] <teward> #action Next meeting chair
[15:34] <meetingology> ACTION: Next meeting chair
[15:34] <teward> Dan's listed as next
[15:34] <ddstreet> sounds good
[15:34] <teward> #topic Any Other Business
[15:34] <rafaeldtinoco> thanks for the agenda updates
[15:34] <rafaeldtinoco> much better now
[15:35] <rafaeldtinoco> with logs at the end
[15:35] <rafaeldtinoco> etc
[15:35] <teward> agreed
[15:35] <teward> any other business?
[15:35] <rafaeldtinoco> nope, thanks for chairing
[15:35] <teward> 5
[15:35] <teward> 4
[15:35] <teward> 3
[15:35] <teward> 2
[15:35] <teward> 1
[15:35] <teward> thanks everyone!
[15:35] <rafaeldtinoco> and congrats again to GunnarHj
[15:35] <teward> #endmeeting
[15:35] <rafaeldtinoco> o/
[15:35] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:35:59 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-04-05-15.01.moin.txt
[15:36] <ddstreet> thanks all o/
[15:36] <GunnarHj> Thanks all!
[15:53] <RikMills> GunnarHj: congratulations :)
[15:53] <GunnarHj> Thanks RikMills!