[05:19] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob>  (re @saivinob: Yes I saw first on 20.10 too. Agree there should be warning before hand.)Sorry that is not correct. There is warning in the installer if we don't create an efi partition. There is bug report as well. Ref. https://pad.lv/1893964 :
[05:19] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1893964 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Hirsute) "Installation of Ubuntu Groovy with manual partitioning without an EFI System Partition fails on 'grub-install /dev/sda' even on non-UEFI systems" [High,Confirmed]
[05:20] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Now, if *you* did not see it in Kubuntu installer then it is another issue.
[05:22] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> The default layout is 1M for bios_grub, 512M for esp and rest for root. If we are doing manual, and skip bios_grub, it complains again but grub install completes without failure (at least it did not fail on me).
[05:22] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Installer defaults to gpt partitioning and not msdos.
[06:47] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <philipz> would be great if there was a button in advanced partitioning that you press and it puts in the default layout and then you could modify things from there.
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> anyone got a 21.04 -desktop up n running to test something?
[08:45] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> I've but UM. OK or it has to be Ubuntu proper?
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> saivinob: does mate have libreoffice by default installed?
[08:57] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <Leokolb> Here is a link to the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-testcases/+bug/1922435 (re @kc2bez: I can't find Leó's bug on my phone. I totally agree on getting them updated I know @guiverc made a start on that and we never circled back.)
[08:57] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1922435 in Ubuntu QA Testcases "Testcase for Live Session in Lubuntu Desktop amd64 in Hirsute Daily is incorrect" [Undecided,New]
[08:57] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> yes. (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <lotuspsychje> saivinob: does mate have libreoffice by default installed?)
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> saivinob: can you try this bug out please; bug #1922432
[08:58] <ubot5> bug 1922432 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Libreoffice apps launches default gear icon under wayland" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1922432
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> but i assume it might be gnome/wayland specific
[08:59] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> wayland? I don't think UM has wayland.
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> kk
[09:07] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> I checked. No issues of gear icon showing for LO. Of course, you already mentioned on xorg it is OK. 😃
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx for checking saivinob ; )
[09:08] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> you are welcome!
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> we have 2 reports coming looking similar bug #1922547 and bug #1921958 incoming
[11:05] <ubot5> bug 1922547 in grub-installer (Ubuntu) "Fatal Grub Error when installing Ubuntu from the latest iso " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1922547
[11:05] <ubot5> bug 1921958 in grub-installer (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity fatal error : "cannot create grub on /dev/sda"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1921958
[13:48] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> On Ubuntu what display server is default in live session and what is default when installed? I tried on quickemu and virt-manager. On both x11 is server when booted to live session. Is it normal or is there anything to be set in my VM?
[14:03] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <RikMills> X11 in live. Wayland by default when installed. (re @saivinob: On Ubuntu what display server is default in live session and what is default when installed? I tried on quickemu and virt-manager. On both x11 is server when booted to live session. Is it normal or is there anything to be set in my VM?)
[14:04] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <RikMills> I think there are some parts of the installer they decided not to bother porting to Wayland
[14:05] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> OK. I wanted to confirm bug reported by @lotuspsychje. 😀Will install now.
[14:13] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rwkeating> Would someone point me where to see the current list of bugs for 21.04? I am logged into Launchpad, just can't seem to find a 21.04 category.
[14:15] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rwkeating> I think I got it.  Go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and then use search in that list for 21.04
[14:55] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> It is. Tested on live session, LO icons are consistent; tested on installed system (wayland), LO icons first show gear icon. Will report as ''affects me" in the bug report. (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <lotuspsychje> but i assume it might be gnome/wayland specific)
[15:48] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> @rwkeating in case you missed it, I checked BIOS install today. On UM atleast we get warning pop up. See screenshot attached above. There is bug report as well. If you did not see the error message, you may want to update your observations.
[16:05] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> where do we get iso for ubuntu-unity? not on cdimage.ubuntu.com?
[16:08] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <teward001> i don't think that there's an official Unity remix ISO on the cdimages / releases mirrors because that's not an official flavor
[16:08] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <teward001> and if it is it hasn't been reflected on https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours
[16:11] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Hmm. So unity remix team probably do not have build capacity to release daily images I guess. I could not see any zsync option on their website. How do we keep up? The image is 3G. It is not possible *for me* to download so much each time they release iso.
[16:11] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rs2009> Yes, Ubuntu Unity is not yet an official flavour. You can get it from linux.darkpenguin.net/distros/ubuntu-unity/21.04/. (re @saivinob: where do we get iso for ubuntu-unity? not on cdimage.ubuntu.com?)
[16:12] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> @rs2009 do you have any equivalent of zsync system?
[16:13] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rs2009> Sorry, not yet. (re @saivinob: @rs2009 do you have any equivalent of zsync system?)
[16:17] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> OK. I just realised you do not have 'test cases' as well so probably it is OK to just install the latest released image and keep upgrading?
[16:20] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rs2009> @saivinob My suggestion to you is to download the ISO once in a while and test it in a live session in a VM. Upgrading might wreck the system due to conflicts between Unity7 and GNOME. (re @saivinob: OK. I just realised you do not have 'test cases' as well so probably it is OK to just install the latest released image and keep upgrading?)
[16:24] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Full downloads is difficult for me as I'm on metered connection with daily (low) limits. I could install on VM and keep updating. Will see if I can do it. Thanks you @rs2009 @teward001
[16:25] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <teward001> metered with low limits is usually *not* conducive for testing envs.  you may want to just wait for stable releases, just saying. (re @saivinob: Full downloads is difficult for me as I'm on metered connection with daily (low) limits. I could install on VM and keep updating. Will see if I can do it. Thanks you @rs2009 @teward001)
[16:27] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> True. I'm still managing somehow. Using my wife's data as well 😂 See that's Ubuntu love...
[16:34] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <madhens> That's also your wife's love as well! 😂 (re @saivinob: True. I'm still managing somehow. Using my wife's data as well 😂 See that's Ubuntu love...)
[16:34] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <madhens> At least in this house, I'll be the one racking up the data usage this month. :)
[16:35] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Of course..yes. 😂
[16:36] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> I also visit my uncle's house once in a while, use his internet and say in my mind 'you will share the good karma with me..' 😂
[16:38] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> I'll be OK in about couple of weeks. Just moved to new place. Don't want to miss chance to be part of this awesome event. It is also such a good time to meet so many awesome people...
[16:39] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <Maik_aD> know that this group is bridged to the IRC channel #ubuntu-quality and logged, not sure if offtopic chatter is allowed.
[16:39] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <Maik_aD> just saying
[16:40] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Oh yes. Sorry. Got carried away.
[16:40] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <Maik_aD> :)
[16:42] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <cwayne> Can't see any reason it wouldn't be allowed, just with the understanding it is indeed logged
[16:42] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <RikMills> I think a little is fine. However, keep to a minimum, and when you have to scroll up slightly to find on topic stuff, time to move it elsewhere ;)
[16:44] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob>
[16:45] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <Maik_aD> feel free to move over to https://t.me/ubuntuofftopic for casual talk if you like :)
[16:47] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Have you seen this on lubuntu? I test with quickemu so not sure if it is related to that. :
[16:49] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <kc2bez> With quickemu you need to enable Compton or Picom. (re @saivinob: )
[16:52] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> How do I do that?
[16:53] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <kc2bez> From the menu you can go to Accessories and just click on Compton. That will get things so they look proper.
[16:55] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> That did the trick. Thank you.
[16:56] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <kc2bez> You are welcome. Quickemu has all the hardware acceleration bits turned on so you need a compositor.
[16:57] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <kc2bez> The other virtualization platforms don't need it.
[16:57] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Noted.
[17:00] <ubuntu-tester60d> Hy, i have installed Ubuntu with ZFS encryption and login with password on a laptop, also i have enabled proposed repositories, i noticed Ubuntu Software Center doesn't start , has anyone seen somthing similar?
[17:02] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <RikMills> https://popey.com/blog/2021/02/dont-use-proposed/ (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <ubuntu-tester60d> Hy, i have installed Ubuntu with ZFS encryption and login with password on a laptop, also i have enabled proposed repositories, i noticed Ubuntu Software Center doesn't start , has anyone seen somthing similar?)
[17:02] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rs2009> ubuntu-tester60d: Using the proposed repositories on your main machine might be a bad idea.
[17:02] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rs2009> ubuntu-tester60d: You might want to use the proposed repos in a VM instead.
[17:03] <ubuntu-tester60d> ubuntutestingbot this is just for testing 21.04, not my main machine
[17:04] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <RikMills> packages in the proposed pocket are in there as they have not yet been shown not to break things in the release pocket, or regress themselves
[17:05] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rs2009> ubuntu-tester60d: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[17:05] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rs2009> Sorry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration.
[17:06] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <RikMills> so you should only install things from proposed if you are wanting to test some very specific changes for a specific purpose. having it generally enabled, even on a testing box, is inviting unhelpful breakage
[17:08] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rs2009> ubuntu-tester60d: Also, https://popey.com/blog/2021/02/going-backwards/ might be helpful to get back to the release pocket.
[17:11] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <RikMills> A few weeks ago, one of the Ubuntu core devs and desktop team members accidentally left proposed enabled, and upgraded their box. I believe it broke their install quite badly.
[17:42] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <teward001> yes they did
[17:45] <ubuntu-tester34d> Here we go again, i have reinstalled ubuntu 21.04 with ZFS encryption again i am trying to open ubuntu software, no luck so far, how can i try to start from the terminal ?
[17:49] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rwkeating> I tested it again, this time on a VM and I saw the warning message.  I am sure I didn't miss the warning before when I was trying it on real hardware as I verified it multiple times.  I think there is still something here to be uncovered (such as the order one does things may cause the error message not to show up.) (re @saivinob: It is. Tested on live session, LO icons are consistent; tested on installed system (waylan
[17:51] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Possible.
[18:03] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Hi tester, I can confirm your observation. On a normal (default) install 'Ubuntu Software' would launch normally but when I changed to ZFS+encryption it is not launching. (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <ubuntu-tester34d> Here we go again, i have reinstalled ubuntu 21.04 with ZFS encryption again i am trying to open ubuntu software, no luck so far, how can i try to start from the terminal ?)
[18:06] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Team, 'Ubuntu Software' is the 'snap-store' snap correct? When I check snap list I see notes as 'broken'. And if I do snap run snap-store, it says cannot find snap, missing meta/snap.yaml... :
[18:07] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> It is today's iso image.
[18:13] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Nothing inside 'current' on any default snaps. :
[18:20] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <bittin1> thx @Maik_aD and @RikMills for the information about the Support and Offtopic Telegram channels, tested 2 more images today
[18:30] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rwkeating> Not sure if this ties in to the snap-store issue above, but i was able to install a good number of snaps successfully via the command line.
[18:33] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> On ubuntu proper? from today's image?
[18:33] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rwkeating> From the image from Saturday (or maybe Friday) on Kubuntu.
[18:35] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> OK. Sorry, I myself mentioned above that I did not have issue on a 'default' install but only on ZFS+encryption install. 😅
[18:43] <ubuntu-tester34d> ubuntu 21.04 zfs encryption, installed 0ad snap tried to start it: "cannot perform operation: mount --rbind /dev /tmp/snap.rootfs_eSafSp//dev: No such file or directory"
[18:46] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Oh, so you were able to install snaps. Have you tried with only ZFS? I'm currently waiting for ZFS (without encryption) install to finish. Will report back.
[18:47] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rwkeating> I did not try installing snaps with ZFS, just with the default file system format.
[18:51] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> We can drop encryption from the equation. On a ZFS install, we have the reported issue.
[18:51] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <rwkeating> I found a bug coming out of sleep (suspend to RAM.)  Is it enough to follow the crash report assistant prompts or do I need to create the bug in Launchpad?  There is a bug already for hibernate but I think what I am seeing is different.
[18:52] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <alera_on> They are even in that state on 20.04.2.  As I was unable to install anything on Snap, I completely removed it from the system and went to Flatpak, which worked. (re @saivinob: )
[18:56] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <alera_on> In my opinion, it is more viable to maintain GNOME Software (as it was up to now) than to send a store in Snap without support for Flatpak.  I understand that this format should be prioritized, but the application in DEB is better than the version in Snap.
[18:56] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> On a ZFS install? (re @alera_on: They are even in that state on 20.04.2.  As I was unable to install anything on Snap, I completely removed it from the system and went to Flatpak, which worked.)
[18:56] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <alera_on> I talked about the system.  I never used ZFS. (re @saivinob: On a ZFS install?)
[19:11] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> On ZFS install, I was able to install 'htop' via terminal and also run it. Can you try to upgrade store to beta version and see if that works? sudo snap refresh snap-store --beta. (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <ubuntu-tester34d> ubuntu 21.04 zfs encryption, installed 0ad snap tried to start it: "cannot perform operation: mount --rbind /dev /tmp/snap.rootfs_eSafSp//dev: No such file or directory")
[19:16] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <saivinob> Nevermind, it gave same error as you mentioned when trying to change snap-store beta channel.
[22:08] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <Littlewaldo> Good afternoon. I have connected a 22 inch TV to my pc as the monitor damaged me. By houses of the destination the VGA port of the television does not work therefore I have had to connect my pc through the DVI port with a DVI-HDMI cable the detail is that when I do it, Linux mint detects it as a 32-inch monitor and a lot of information exits the screen on the right side and you can't see the bottom where the taskbar i
[22:08] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <Littlewaldo> NOTE: I tried every resolution that has with no success.
[22:12] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <cwayne> https://homeguides.sfgate.com/how-to-turn-off-overscan-for-a-tv-as-a-monitor-13409196.html
[22:12] <ubuntutestingbot> [telegram] <cwayne> Try that :)