[02:12] <lotuspsychje> for those that tested bug #1922432 yesterday, i wrote a new comment
 Noted. It is present in 20210405 iso as well. I'm testing on VM though.
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> saivinob: can you reproduce the grey icons?
 Yes.
 Forwarded from saivinob: It is. Tested on live session, LO icons are consistent; tested on installed system (wayland), LO icons first show gear icon. Will report as ''affects me" in the bug report.
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> tnx mate
 Welcome.
[07:11] <luna> morning
 Has anybody done 'Free Software Only' test case? I am not seeing step 1 "aubergine screen with an icon at the bottom"?
 That's the accessibility icon
[07:50] <guiverc> @saivinob, not recently (not hirsute), but it took me a little time to find I think last time
 I am not seeing it. I checked in efi mode. It boots directly to Try/Install selection screen. Will check legacy mode.
[07:54] <guiverc> i recall a discussion about it in groovy, but so long ago I forget sorry
 Even on BIOS mode it does not show. Directly boots to Welcome screen.
 That's the icon and following language selection screen I should be seeing correct? P.S.: Images thanks to our community forum users (https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/how-to-select-language-in-efi-mode-to-try-ubuntu-live/22127). :

 And if I press F6 there I should see option 'Free Software Only' (step 3 of test case) I guess.
 I checked bug report against manual-tests, could not find anything on this test case. If you or somebody here can check and confirm, would be thankful. From my side I'll mark it as failed. (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <guiverc> i recall a discussion about it in groovy, but so long ago I forget sorry)
[08:09] <guiverc> @saivinob, I've a ubuntu daily booted here on a BIOS box & I can't find it either. it's not today's daily (I only have lubuntu updated)
 Mine is 20210405 image.
[08:13]  * guiverc vaguely recalls a ubiquity or boot (maybe-ubiquity type option) that enabled it.. but it was awhile (focal/groovy) ago I ignored that test case since
 Thank you for testing. I filed bug report https://pad.lv/1922667. (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <guiverc> @saivinob, I've a ubuntu daily booted here on a BIOS box & I can't find it either. it's not today's daily (I only have lubuntu updated))
 Just to add the 'Link to download information' takes us to regular iso whereas we had *alternate* CD, that's where I had seen those screens.
 Confirmed, Lubuntu boots to GRUB, and you don't get the accessibility menu.
 Ubuntu (UM) as well; boots to 'Welcome' screen.
 New test daily images out 06 to test
 Xubuntu has been like that for quite some time on the dailies. (re @popeydc: Confirmed, Lubuntu boots to GRUB, and you don't get the accessibility menu.)
 :(
 Presumed it was intentional until the beta came out 😄
 I hope not. But we should check with the flavour leads?
[10:07] <guiverc> popey, fyi on free software; I think it's been that way since june-2020 (ie. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-to-use-grub2-for-booting-installer-media-in-any-modes-on-all-architectures/16871/13 ; the f6 was on the bright cheery screen I missed in first comment)
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> i got another bug to be tested for reproducing on ubuntu-desktop/wayland bug #1922437
 Each time I login to Ubuntu (ZFS install) I get nautilus crash about 'update_dbus_opened_locations'. But cannot reported because it says doesn't seem to be official Ubuntu package. This is tracked in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1820859. Just wanted to add that I see this only on ZFS install. Did not see it on default install.
 good afternoon lotuspsychje
 how grub looks in xubuntu :
 guiverc, @saivinob, @popeydc: should a new bug report be filed, or should we modify Sai's testcase bug, as that doesn't seem to be the real problem that needs to be solved.
 if there isn't already a bug tracking this issue, then one should be created, for sure.
 against syslinux or gub2? (re @popeydc: if there isn't already a bug tracking this issue, then one should be created, for sure.)
 i dont know what the issue is agains
 i dont know what the issue is against (edited)
 i'll do grub2 and it can be changed as needed
 I guess against grub2 (since the current ISOs are using it). (re @philipz: against syslinux or gub2?)
 What should be done to report bug against snaps? snap-store is broken in ZFS installs. Snap store does not launch. We can install snap from command line but cannot launch it.
 report over on forum.snapcraft.io
 OK. So it will not be tracked in launchpad then?
 I'm asking because it is happening on ZFS install and for all snaps. Not particular snap.
 maybe, but I'd use the forum, as the developers are there, and responsive
 bug filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1922735
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/
 :)
 then absolutely should be there, yes
 @saivinob if UM also only show the grub menu without the other options, please add your findings to the bug report.
 Thank you 😊 (re @kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/)
 I already mentioned 'affects me'. Will comment. (re @philipz: @saivinob if UM also only show the grub menu without the other options, please add your findings to the bug report.)
 flagging this in #ubuntu-devel on IRC
 I have a feeling that since this was a deliberate and planned change, it might just be a 'won't fix'
 Doesn't this also occur with groovy?
 I would have to, as the gfxboot-theme-ubuntu package was deleted from the archive in that release (re @rs2009: Doesn't this also occur with groovy?)
 It would have to, as the gfxboot-theme-ubuntu package was deleted from the archive in that release (edited) (re @rs2009: Doesn't this also occur with groovy?)
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1922293 (re @saivinob: I'm asking because it is happening on ZFS install and for all snaps. Not particular snap.)
 Thank you. (re @popeydc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1922293)
 Anyone know how to mount ZFS the easiest way from an Ubuntu Live USB ?
 In how many channels you keep asking the same question? Besides, this group is not for support. 😉 🙂 (re @bittin1: Anyone know how to mount ZFS the easiest way from an Ubuntu Live USB ?)
 My feeling was correct. "won't fix' (re @RikMills: I have a feeling that since this was a deliberate and planned change, it might just be a 'won't fix')
 got help from Jibel on irc moving my dotfiles now to make a clean install (re @Maik_aD: In how many channels you keep asking the same question? Besides, this group is not for support. 😉 🙂)
 Doesn't so much look like focus, but that the Super key invocation is being kept (re @saivinob: )
 It happens even when I first click on 9-dots and then search, not necessarily when super-key is pressed. Just want to confirm if it is not my hardware.
 You might want to report the bug with ubuntu-bug gnome-shell. Other people will then also be able to mark themselves as affected. (re @saivinob: It happens even when I first click on 9-dots and then search, not necessarily when super-key is pressed. Just want to confirm if it is not my hardware.)
 is that in a VM? (re @saivinob: )
 Yes. Tested on quickemu and virt-manager.
 I will. Just wanted to confirm if it is something on my side or issue really exists. (re @rs2009: You might want to report the bug with ubuntu-bug gnome-shell. Other people will then also be able to mark themselves as affected.)
 Experienced the same in a live session in Boxes (re @saivinob: I will. Just wanted to confirm if it is something on my side or issue really exists.)
 trying from usb stick once it's flashed
 @saivinob same happens on a live session running from a usb stick
 however i believe this happened on 20.10, so it's not new
 however i believe this happened on 20.10 too, so it's not new (edited)
 did a clean 21.04 Beta install and everything seems to work great so far :)
 Thank you. I will check if there are open bug reports. If not will raise one. (re @Maik_aD: @saivinob same happens on a live session running from a usb stick)
 ok. if you found one or raised one, please share so i can add a "affects me too" (re @saivinob: Thank you. I will check if there are open bug reports. If not will raise one.)
 @saivinob had a look at 20.10 and it doesn't happen there. So it's probably a bug on 21.04.
 Thank you @Maik_aD. Could not find any relevant bug from my search, so raised one. Ref. https://pad.lv/1922772
 Thanks. I added a "affects me too". (re @saivinob: Thank you @Maik_aD. Could not find any relevant bug from my search, so raised one. Ref. https://pad.lv/1922772)
 @Leokolb you have commented on the KDE installer crash bug, yes?
 This one in VM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1920665
 Yes I have comment # 8 and reported numerous times on the QA testing tracker (re @RikMills: @Leokolb you have commented on the KDE installer crash bug, yes?)
 Can you boot to a live session, install the mesa from this ppa, then try an install from the desktop icon?
 https://launchpad.net/~rikmills/+archive/ubuntu/mesa (re @Leokolb: Yes I have comment # 8 and reported numerous times on the QA testing tracker)
 If it works, comment on the bug that that mesa build of an old version makes the bug go away
 Will give it a shot in a few mins.. (re @RikMills: Can you boot to a live session, install the mesa from this ppa, then try an install from the desktop icon?
 https://launchpad.net/~rikmills/+archive/ubuntu/mesa)
 Thanks. The mesa maintainer said it worked. so now not crucial, but an extra confirmation is always good! (re @Leokolb: Will give it a shot in a few mins..)
 Confirm ...all good (re @RikMills: Thanks. The mesa maintainer said it worked. so now not crucial, but an extra confirmation is always good!)
 Great, thanks. Sadly we can't revert to that mesa version, so somehow the new one needs to be fixed
 When booting from an iso  (kubuntu,) the first screen of the installer is on a timer, goes away and you can't get back to it.  All it says is ""You may wish to read the release notes or update this installer."  Is that worth reporting?
 Having problems installing snaps aswell anywhere i can press affects me to?
 Are you on ZFS or ext4. On ext4 I did not have issues. On ZFS, there is a bug #1922293. (re @bittin1: Having problems installing snaps aswell anywhere i can press affects me to?)
 ZFS so its most likely that (re @saivinob: Are you on ZFS or ext4. On ext4 I did not have issues. On ZFS, there is a bug #1922293.)
 pressed Affects me
 just reinstalled my desktop
 so if anything more needs testing i have time to test
 did anyone notice a mouse bug like this in the live session with an nvidia graphics card. :

 i had something similar
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1921928
 please share the bug report number
 thanks
 worked if i booted into (Safe Graphics mode however)
 a bug reporter mentioned that it only happens in the live session, but goes away after installation

 yep it did had problems installing from the live session however, but installed from the Live Session (Safe Mode) and got a regular cursor (re @philipz: a bug reporter mentioned that it only happens in the live session, but goes away after installation)
 The white thing in the corner is what i got from a regular live session with a GTX 760 as a mouse cursor and it was impossible to click with (re @bittin1: )
 i could imagine. thankfully DEs can also be navigated by keyboard
 heh worked when choosing the (Safe Mode) live option and works fine after installing from there (re @philipz: i could imagine. thankfully DEs can also be navigated by keyboard)
 heh worked when choosing the (Safe Graphics Mode) live option and works fine after installing from there (edited) (re @philipz: i could imagine. thankfully DEs can also be navigated by keyboard)