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ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @sjeanr [Could someone tell me where the note app stores it's data. I want to use synchth …], The folder should be in `/Home/.local/share/com.ubuntu.reminders` You can add an Evernote account via System Settings in order to sync the core Notes app's notes with other devices.  Or the "Jotit Cloud Notes" allows syncing notes with a NextC02:19
ubptgbotloud server.02:19
ubptgbot<karlin5233> Is there a method to manually install the software? any tutorial for nexus 5?02:20
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @karlin5233 [Is there a method to manually install the software? any tutorial for nexus 5?], Using the UBports installer is the best way to install UT.  https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/hammerhead/02:22
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @sjeanr [Could someone tell me where the note app stores it's data. I want to use synchth …], [Edit] The folder should be in `/Home/.local/share/com.ubuntu.reminders` You can add an Evernote account via System Settings in order to sync the core Notes app's notes with other devices.  Or the "Jotit Cloud Notes" app in the OpenStore allow02:22
ubptgbots syncing notes with a NextCloud server.02:22
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @TotalSonic did you have a asteroidos watch with vollaphone02:42
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [@TotalSonic did you have a asteroidos watch with vollaphone], Yes - both  LG G Watch R and LG G Watch Urbane are working well with Volla via the Telescope app.  Asteroid OS is basic but works pretty smoothly with UT.  I have a beta click of Telescope the developer of it forward me, which includes Weather app syncing (a lit02:44
ubptgbottle clunky to get that synced still, but once you get it via some multiple reconnecting it works as well).02:44
ubptgbot<mateosalta> i have the urbane, i'm connecting via the system bluetooth, but the app still says to connect02:45
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [i have the urbane, i'm connecting via the system bluetooth, but the app still sa …], I had that problem at first too - until I flashed an Android Wear system image for it linked on the Asteroid OS page, and then reflashed Asteroid OS onto it.02:51
ubptgbot<mateosalta> ah02:51
ubptgbot<mateosalta> ok02:51
ubptgbot<mateosalta> flash to m first02:51
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> I can send you those images02:52
ubptgbot<mateosalta> they have them on the page still02:53
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [they have them on the page still], USE these ones -> … Recovery: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767128807 … Boot: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120699462 … System: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=67336827329892264602:55
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [they have them on the page still], and then  … fastboot flash boot boot.img … fastboot flash system system.img … fastboot flash recovery recovery.img02:55
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> After that reinstall Asteroid OS and I think it should be good to go02:56
ubptgbot<mateosalta> the setup on the android wear os was not fun, and it made it connect and use google play even to just click the settings02:56
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [the setup on the android wear os was not fun, and it made it connect and use goo …], Yeah, total bs that Google and LG wouldn't even allow the watch to run in a standalone mode - Asteroid OS at least allows you to do that.02:56
ubptgbot<mateosalta> so much nicer :)02:57
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [the setup on the android wear os was not fun, and it made it connect and use goo …], Actually if you hold the power button for a bit "Settings" will appear on Android Wear02:57
ubptgbot<mateosalta> ah02:57
ubptgbot<mateosalta> good to know02:57
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Yeah, it helps so you can get to developer mode without having to connect to Google first.02:57
ubptgbot<mateosalta> yeah i have to go purge my standby phone now02:58
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [they have them on the page still], [Edit] and then  … `fastboot flash boot boot.img` … `fastboot flash system system.img` … `fastboot flash recovery recovery.img`02:59
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [The folder should be in /Home/.local/share/com.ubuntu.reminders You can add an E …], wait the jotit app in the store is able to sync with nextcloud?03:25
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [wait the jotit app in the store is able to sync with nextcloud?], Yup, it's a NextCloud Notes client basically03:26
ubptgbot<Javacookies> es03:26
ubptgbot<Javacookies> [Edit] yes03:26
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> interesting03:27
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Personally I think the core Notes app should add the option to sync via NextCloud as well (especially given that Evernote is a commercial and semi-proprietary, and only offers keeping it synced between a few devices at once in their free service)03:27
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> wait "yes" and edited? did you say no at first kugi hehehehe03:27
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> he said "es" - missed a y in there :P03:28
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [Personally I think the core Notes app should add the option to sync via NextClou …], i mean i agree but the maintainer is working on other issues iirc03:28
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> depending on how jotit does it, that could be used as a base to get the core notes app to do it too03:28
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [i mean i agree but the maintainer is working on other issues iirc], Yup, it's one thing to ask for these things, but if one can not code it, then patience is definitely a virtue03:28
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [Yup, it's one thing to ask for these things, but if one can not code it, then pa …], certainly, well that or learn to code03:29
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [depending on how jotit does it, that could be used as a base to get the core not …], Hopefuly it is that easy.  I have a feeling there is probably some kind of hitch03:29
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [Yup, it's one thing to ask for these things, but if one can not code it, then pa …], [Edit] certainly, well that or learn to code :P03:29
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> well i suppose it also depends on how the core notes app saves the notes03:29
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @Fuseteam [wait "yes" and edited? did you say no at first kugi hehehehe], my cheap stupid keyboard's fault 😆03:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i mean nextcloud is basically webdav + a folder structure afaict03:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Javacookies [my cheap stupid keyboard's fault 😆], lmao get flicking 😂03:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> that came out wrong lmao03:30
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [certainly, well that or learn to code :P], Yup.  On my list of things to try and do at least a little bit eventually.  So many things to learn, and  so many hours needed to do the things I already know how to do.03:31
ubptgbot<Javacookies> LOL, I can't flick on a physical keyboard 😆03:31
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Javacookies [LOL, I can't flick on a physical keyboard 😆], Now, if you could make a physical flick keyboard - that would be cool.03:31
ubptgbot<Javacookies> if the format of evernote and nextcloud notes are the same, I guess it'll be a bit easier to do03:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Javacookies [LOL, I can't flick on a physical keyboard 😆], true that 😂03:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Javacookies [if the format of evernote and nextcloud notes are the same, I guess it'll be a b …], yeah i think that's the struggle point, they are likely not the same03:32
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @TotalSonic [Now, if you could make a physical flick keyboard - that would be cool.], physical keyboards should really have OSK features by now 😂03:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [Now, if you could make a physical flick keyboard - that would be cool.], lmao that'd be fun03:33
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Javacookies [physical keyboards should really have OSK features by now 😂], agreed, and visa versa03:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> but really flick is made for a 5 inch touchscreen03:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> qwerty, not so much lol03:33
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [lmao that'd be fun], It would be worth making a clunky prototype just for the youtube views.03:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] but really flick is made for a <= 5 inch touchscreen03:34
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [It would be worth making a clunky prototype just for the youtube views.], like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LI1PysAlkU03:35
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [It would be worth making a clunky prototype just for the youtube views.], [Edit] lmao, like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LI1PysAlkU03:35
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> (it has english subs btw)03:36
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> cricket be chirping03:38
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i'll show myself out 😂03:38
ubptgbot<sjeanr> @TotalSonic [The folder should be in /Home/.local/share/com.ubuntu.reminders You can add an E …], Thank you! You got me interested in Nextcloud. I will give it a try.03:47
ubptgbot<sjeanr> @TotalSonic [Personally I think the core Notes app should add the option to sync via NextClou …], Agree! That is one of my goals with UT.03:51
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> developers developers developers developers devel—03:57
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [lmao, like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LI1PysAlkU], darn it, someone beat me to the idea ;)04:03
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [darn it, someone beat me to the idea ;)], btw look at the date :p04:04
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [btw look at the date :p], I'm surprised it wasn't tried even earlier than 5 years ago.  It actually is very cool, I could see this being useful for lots of other interfacing actually04:05
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> look closer at the date and consider japan time :p04:06
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [look closer at the date and consider japan time :p], heehee - April Fools Day - of course.04:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> yupp :p04:07
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> I just got past the first 30 seconds, to where it got way sillier, lol04:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> lmao04:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> but yeah i agree it is useful as an interface tbh04:08
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i mean qertyu exists now, almost :p04:09
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> I still think someone should make an IRL DIY version of this.04:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> same hehe ᕙ≧ڡ≦04:10
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ubptgbot<Cruz Bass> looook - https://bit.ly/3dFCrbD … EllonMussk Crazy!!!!08:49
ubptgbot<flaburgan> hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/anbox-on-ut  … I would agree to give money but I would like more details: … - will the changes be pushed in upstream Anbox? (So they are available in all linux distributions) Are Anbox devs aware of that campaign? … - what are the target dates for the work? Ho09:43
ubptgbotw is it prioritized? … - where can we follow the work done? … It would be awesome to have the answers to those question on the campaign page09:43
ubptgbot<Edwin Hao> https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/mlfzio/jdekde_first_rice_using_jingos_beta_darker_than/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf09:47
ubptgbot<ruditimmer> @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], Hi Fla, the mean of the fixes are indeed to be pushed as upstream, our dev who will work on Anbox know the campagn, we follow a step by step target this mean into the first place to get it stable and then move on... I post always updates on10:05
ubptgbot the campaign when you have donate you get this update via email...10:05
ubptgbot<ruditimmer> @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], [Edit] Hi Fla, the mean of the fixes are indeed to be pushed as upstream, our dev who will work on Anbox know the campaign, we follow a step by step target this mean into the first place to get it stable and then move on... I post always up10:05
ubptgbotdates on the campaign when you have donate you get this update via email...10:05
ubptgbot<ruditimmer> @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], [Edit] Hi Fla, the mean of the fixes are indeed to be pushed as upstream, our dev who will work on Anbox know the campaign, we follow a step by step target this mean into the first place to get it more stable and then move on... I post alwa10:06
ubptgbotys updates on the campaign when you have donate you get this update via email...10:06
ubptgbot<Steve Kueffer> @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], Hi Fla, … - will the changes be pushed in upstream Anbox? (So they are available in all linux distributions) Are Anbox devs aware of that campaign?  I will let Rudi Timmermans answering. Normally it could be potentially benefit to other10:07
ubptgbotmobile distros as well, but I'm not enough skilled to answer this... … - what are the target dates for the work? How is it prioritized? This will 100% depends of the collected amount. The more we get, the best we can do. Currently, the developer has been hired, her name is Alexandra (from Moscow), she's experimented on Android in Opensources OS as10:07
ubptgbotshe worked several years on Sailfish OS. She well knows reverse engineering, C++, Android ecosystem, opensource projects, Java, etc... As by now she's ready to start to work as soon as she will receive her Vollaphone (that has been sent recently) … - where can we follow the work done? We add updates on the campaign website weekly.  … Hope I could g10:07
ubptgbotive you useful informations.10:07
ubptgbot<ruditimmer> @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], [Edit] Hi Fla, the mean of the fixes are indeed to be pushed as upstream. look for the rest on Steve his reply10:08
ubptgbot<ruditimmer> @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], [Edit] Hi Fla, the mean of the fixes are indeed to be pushed as upstream on the ut anbox repo. look for the rest on Steve his reply10:10
ubptgbot<Flohack> @flaburgan [hello, I'm discovering the Anbox funding campaign: https://www.gofundme.com/f/an …], Please keep in mind that the Upstream Anbox project is not fully compatible with what we need so probably some stuff cannot go there. Its unfortunately again on the brink of a fork. But thats mostly because upstream Anbox maintenance continued10:11
ubptgbot too much into Desktop already.10:11
ubptgbot<ruditimmer> @Flohack [Please keep in mind that the Upstream Anbox project is not fully compatible with …], Indeed Florian, to make it clear that's what i have been say upstream on the ut anbox repo..10:13
ubptgbot<flaburgan> hm, thanks for your answers. I'm going to support that work anyway, but to see effort to push it on "real" upstream would be very welcomed.10:18
ubptgbot<flaburgan> also, about "follow the work done" I was talking about repositories and code, not news ;)10:18
ubptgbot<flaburgan> I really trust you this isn't vaporware, but still I think that adding links to the repository, the developer profile etc would help10:19
ubptgbot<ruditimmer> @flaburgan [also, about "follow the work done" I was talking about repositories and code, no …], Yes we will post also on the updates what she have done already and what's been done tested etc...10:19
ubptgbot<ruditimmer> @flaburgan [I really trust you this isn't vaporware, but still I think that adding links to …], About poste her devlopers profile i need to ask that first i need to recepkt her privacy also, as she is on payed freelance website's so you can not just share her profile.10:21
ubptgbot<ruditimmer> @flaburgan [I really trust you this isn't vaporware, but still I think that adding links to …], [Edit] About post her developers profile i need to ask that first i need to recepkt her privacy also, as she is on payed freelance website's so you can not just share her profile.10:21
ubptgbot<ruditimmer> @flaburgan [I really trust you this isn't vaporware, but still I think that adding links to …], [Edit] About post her developers profile i need to ask that first i need to recept her privacy also, as she is on payed freelance website's so you can not just share her profile.10:22
ubptgbot<flaburgan> yes obviously10:24
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Edwin Hao [https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/mlfzio/jdekde_first_rice_using_jingos …], I think discussions of JingOS should go to the Overflow group, and not here.10:40
ubptgbot<C0n57an71n> @Edwin Hao [https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/mlfzio/jdekde_first_rice_using_jingos …], You guys are becoming anoying with pushing your OS to an UT community... What do you hope to achieve? Converting some UT users to use your OS ? How did your OS contributed to the UT development?11:38
ubptgbot<Tedster> @TotalSonic [I think discussions of JingOS should go to the Overflow group, and not here.], Preferably to its own group11:56
ubptgbot<ajqjwuuqbana041> I want to hear from people who use UBports with GSI? How does it perform compared to non-gsi one?12:39
ubptgbot<ajqjwuuqbana041> [Edit] I want to hear from people who use UBports with GSI. How does it perform compared to non-gsi one?12:39
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ubptgbot<Stereofont> @C0n57an71n [You guys are becoming anoying with pushing your OS to an UT community... What do …], It is impolite, certainly15:16
ubptgbotTeodoro Mclaughlin was added by: Teodoro Mclaughlin15:16
ubptgbot<C0n57an71n> @Stereofont [It is impolite, certainly], Who, me?15:40
ubptgbot<Teodoro Mclaughlin> [https://twitter.com/3ellonmuskss/status/137979320890144225](https://shorl.com/trabridrovevili) … Good day guyssss! Its luckyyy time!!!15:41
ubptgbot<HengYeDev> @C0n57an71n [Who, me?], i think he meant the jing os people15:43
ubptgbot<HengYeDev> not sure if they're the marketing team or just communiy15:43
ubptgbot<HengYeDev> [Edit] not sure if they're the marketing team or just community15:43
ubptgbot<C0n57an71n> Well, nobody has nothing against other OS. It's enough to look at the collaboration between UBports and PosmarketOS, Manjaro, or Pine64, Volla and so on...15:47
ubptgbot<HengYeDev> @C0n57an71n [Well, nobody has nothing against other OS. It's enough to look at the collaborat …], advertising in our group doesnt belong15:48
ubptgbot<C0n57an71n> JingOS is Qt and Ubuntu based, at least that's what they're saying15:48
ubptgbot<HengYeDev> it almost seems like an ad...15:48
ubptgbot<C0n57an71n> @HengYeDev [it almost seems like an ad...], It's more like a spam, if you ask me.15:49
ubptgbot<HengYeDev> very true15:50
ubptgbot<C0n57an71n> Does somebody even knowvwho's behind JingOS?15:50
ubptgbot<HengYeDev> @C0n57an71n [Does somebody even knowvwho's behind JingOS?], chinese entrepreneurs15:50
ubptgbot<HengYeDev> i chatted with the ceo once15:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> well no point staying off topic by discussing it here :)15:50
ubptgbot<HengYeDev> to overflow then?15:50
ubptgbot<C0n57an71n> @dohbee [well no point staying off topic by discussing it here :)], True.15:51
ubptgbot<C0n57an71n> Sure, to the overflow tank =))))15:51
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> time to flow over XD16:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] time to flow over to overflow XD16:07
ubptgbot<D4R1IN9> Im on mi a2 can i use lineage os 16 as bace rom i tried with stok a9 rom it causing problem in fastboot17:00
ubptgbot<D4R1IN9> Anyone help me17:00
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> uh what? this is the group for ubuntu touch, which is not a rom17:01
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> what are you asking?17:01
ubptgbot<gibcheesepuffs> @D4R1IN9 [Im on mi a2 can i use lineage os 16 as bace rom i tried with stok a9 rom it caus …], @shoukolab17:02
ubptgbot<D4R1IN9> @Fuseteam [uh what? this is the group for ubuntu touch, which is not a rom], Is this a bot?17:03
ubptgbot<gibcheesepuffs> @D4R1IN9 [Anyone help me], make sure you are not having jdi panel and also, flash this https://github.com/ubports-xiaomi-sdm660/artifacts/releases/download/20201212/ubuntu_touch_jasmine_V10.0.2.0.PDIMIFJ_9.0.tar.xz  and update via settings>system17:04
ubptgbot<gibcheesepuffs> @D4R1IN9 [Is this a bot?], lel no17:04
ubptgbot<D4R1IN9> @gibcheesepuffs [lel no], 😳17:05
ubptgbot<D4R1IN9> @gibcheesepuffs [lel no], Did i asked something wrong?17:05
ubptgbot<D4R1IN9> @D4R1IN9 [Im on mi a2 can i use lineage os 16 as bace rom i tried with stok a9 rom it caus …], Iin this message17:05
ubptgbot<D4R1IN9> @D4R1IN9 [Im on mi a2 can i use lineage os 16 as bace rom i tried with stok a9 rom it caus …], [Edit] In this message17:05
ubptgbot<LGeek> @D4R1IN9 [In this message], No, but this group focuses in Ubuntu Touch operative system in general, for questions about UT in a specific device is better to ask in the forum post of that device because is more likely to find a correct answer there. Here we have very different devices running UT.17:10
ubptgbot<D4R1IN9> @LGeek [No, but this group focuses in Ubuntu Touch operative system in general, for ques …], Oh i c them im sorry17:11
ubptgbot<D4R1IN9> 🙏17:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @D4R1IN9 [Is this a bot?], oh fun a bot, where, where?17:37
ubptgbot<D4R1IN9> @Fuseteam [oh fun a bot, where, where?], I thought u r 😅 because u reacted on rom word17:38
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @D4R1IN9 [I thought u r 😅 because u reacted on rom word], lol 😂17:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/IDGSLx0I.mp417:39
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> maybe we should make one react on the word "ubports" x'D17:39
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> actually no that's a bad idea17:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> @wellactuallybot17:39
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> lol looks like its free17:40
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Flohack [Soon after they started to fight with each other about was comes after the new n …], Sorry, but I don't remember any fighting...I remember only there was a lack of developers=>commit=>hype.18:24
ubptgbot<dohbee> i think they just didn't have any idea of the scope of things, but simply wanted unity8 to keep existing18:31
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Flohack [We let them do, its a free world, whatever, everybody should have their chance. …], Also I don't understand who is "we" and your sentence let suppose there was an ubpprt decision to "let" another project to play with unity8...that is not true. Ubports state that was only interested in the phone ux so yunit tried to maintain the d18:32
ubptgbotevelopment in the desk sector and both project agreed to keep the project mergeable...then due to a lack of interest (caused probably bythe difficulties to obtain a working solution on desk in the medium/short time) yunit was abandoned and ubports open to the possibility to develop unity8 also for the desk18:32
ubptgbot<Aury88> @dohbee [i think they just didn't have any idea of the scope of things, but simply wanted …], That would be easy...the problem was that also a bootable unity8 was not very usable on desk...your project, obtained removing all the incomplete/not needed in desk stuff was more advanced in my opinion18:34
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Aury88 [Also I don't understand who is "we" and your sentence let suppose there was an u …], i think the "we let them do" was more directly about the fact that it's all open source and anyone can take and do whatever they want with it18:34
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Flohack [We let them do, its a free world, whatever, everybody should have their chance. …], [Edit] Also I don't understand who is "we" and your sentence let suppose there was an ubpprt decision to "let" another project to play with unity8...that is not true. Ubports stated that was only interested in the phone ux so yunit tried to mainta18:35
ubptgbotin the development in the desk sector and both project agreed to keep the project mergeable...then due to a lack of interest (caused probably bythe difficulties to obtain a working solution on desk in the medium/short time) yunit was abandoned and ubports opened to the possibility to develop unity8 also for the desk18:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> the development of lomiri is still focused on the convergence goal18:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> which means that it isn't about explicitly making things only usable on the phone18:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's just that things are currently only more usable on the phone, becuase that's where the state of things was when canonical dropped development of it. and there haven't been enough resources yet to improve beyond that much18:36
ubptgbot<Aury88> So we don't let...they take the code and tried to develop it...as in any opensource project18:38
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> wait were you involved in that project aurelio?18:40
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] wait were you involved in the yunit project aurelio?18:40
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] wait were you involved in the yunit project, aurelio?18:40
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> just curious i suppose18:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Aury88 [So we don't let...they take the code and tried to develop it...as in any opensou …], well we license new code in a way that allows them to do that, so yes "we let"18:40
ubptgbot<Aury88> @dohbee [it's just that things are currently only more usable on the phone, becuase that' …], I know that and also I think is better this way. Is better to develop a convergent ux on the system with more difficulties (due to lower resorce,screen dimension, use of (fat) finger in tini space ...).18:41
ubptgbot<Aury88> @dohbee [it's just that things are currently only more usable on the phone, becuase that' …], [Edit] I know that and also I think is better this way. Is better to develop a convergent ux on the system with more difficulties (due to lower resorce,screen dimension, use of (fat) finger in tiny space ...).18:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> anyway, no need for nitpicking words like that when we all aren't native english speakers i think :)18:41
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> flo isn't and the person that was basically trying to merge two ubuntu unity and ubports isn't either :)18:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> indeed18:43
ubptgbot<Aury88> Yes,you are right. I only think putting all the event in that words make the impression we were a litigious community, against/in contrast with ubports  that died due to a name/logo discussion...18:44
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i guess i got my answer18:44
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> btw i think flo was also a bit disappointed at the time he wrote that, iirc he posted on the ubuntu unity forums about collaborating, i am not sure what came out of that18:45
ubptgbot<dohbee> things were weird and communication was hard then18:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> several small groups wanting to do similar but different things18:46
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i think ubuntu unity is in a similar spot rigt now18:46
ubptgbot<Aury88> @dohbee [well we license new code in a way that allows them to do that, so yes "we let"], And they would licenced their code to "let ubport use that" in reality we both keep the opensouce principle put by canonical18:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> and the UU stuff is in a similar place18:46
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] i think ubuntu unity is in a similar spot right now18:47
ubptgbot<dohbee> the fact is Lomiri and Unity7 are wildly different beasts18:47
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i wonder if we can somehow improve communication between the two18:47
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [the fact is Lomiri and Unity7 are wildly different beasts], well yeah, but iirc the dev from uu was trying to compile lomiri a while ago and asked for some help, but question was lost in the crowd18:48
ubptgbot<dohbee> i guess the problem is that lomiri isn't a single thing, where as unity7 pretty much is18:48
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Fuseteam [btw i think flo was also a bit disappointed at the time he wrote that, iirc he p …], Yes. I don't know if  that was done. Yunit was ahead in the translation process so I dowload all the po and give them to flo but probably unity8 (side ubports) was already to much different to use them.18:49
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Aury88 [Yes. I don't know if  that was done. Yunit was ahead in the translation process …], oh i'm not sure about that, i meant flo has reached out to the ubuntu unity community in the past18:50
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Aury88 [Yes. I don't know if  that was done. Yunit was ahead in the translation process …], [Edit] oh i'm not sure about that, i meant flo has reached out to the ubuntu unity community a few months ago18:50
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> not sure if he got something tangible out of that, and such he may have been disappointed when their graphics designer was asking wether ubports wants to use their logo18:51
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] not sure if he got something tangible out of that, and such he may have been disappointed when their graphics designer was asking whether ubports wants to use their logo18:51
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [i guess the problem is that lomiri isn't a single thing, where as unity7 pretty …], yeah and documentation on how to actually build and test is still lacking18:52
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Aury88 [Yes. I don't know if  that was done. Yunit was ahead in the translation process …], Oh how could I forget the translations....18:53
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Fuseteam [wait were you involved in the yunit project, aurelio?], Yes, I was  but only contributed in italian translation if I remember correctly. And probably was the last to leave the ship given the fact that I gave the zip containing all the po to flo/ubports 😅18:53
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Aury88 [Yes, I was  but only contributed in italian translation if I remember correctly. …], oh cool, tis nice to have you here18:53
ubptgbot<Flohack> Don´t take me wrong at its also not personal, but I still have the impression today that it broke all over a logo and name discussion. Since if it would have been otherwise, if you would have faced technical difficulties, wouldnt you probably have asked for help, or for collaborating on things? Yes I was disappointed back then since we we18:55
ubptgbotre left with a much wider codebase than planned, and still today we are struggling to satisfy all wishes. Having to also maintain the now Lomiri was not the gift I would want to have for Christmas, so to say18:55
ubptgbot<Flohack> And "let them play" was not literally meant ofc18:55
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Fuseteam [oh i'm not sure about that, i meant flo has reached out to the ubuntu unity comm …], I was refering to the yunit community not the ubuntu unity community 🤣.18:56
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Flohack [Don´t take me wrong at its also not personal, but I still have the impression to …], well like rodney says communicating (between ubports and yunit) was hard, and tbh it is hard right now between ubuntu unity and ubports18:57
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Fuseteam [oh cool, tis nice to have you here], Nah...i'm pretty useless 🤣18:57
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Aury88 [I was refering to the yunit community not the ubuntu unity community 🤣.], that's why i clarified xD18:57
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Flohack [Don´t take me wrong at its also not personal, but I still have the impression to …], [Edit] well like rodney says communicating (between ubports and yunit) was hard, and tbh it is hard right now between ubuntu unity and ubports. the main ubuntu unity dev did ask for help in the development channel but technically never got an a18:58
ubptgbotnswer18:58
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Flohack [Don´t take me wrong at its also not personal, but I still have the impression to …], [Edit] well like rodney says communicating (between ubports and yunit) was hard, and tbh it is hard right now between ubuntu unity and ubports. the main ubuntu unity dev did ask for help in the development channel but  never got an answer18:58
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Aury88 [Nah...i'm pretty useless 🤣], wouldn't say that—18:59
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [well like rodney says communicating (between ubports and yunit) was hard, and tb …], well that's not exactly true. he said he had a problem trying to build unity8, and mardy immediately replied, but Rudra never followed up with requested terminal output, at least in the channel19:00
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Flohack [Don´t take me wrong at its also not personal, but I still have the impression to …], We had faced the tecnical difficulties...and not having a single developer other than the yunit  founder the result was inevitable. I prefer in this way. My fear was that having two project would have make all difficult and waste developers resou19:01
ubptgbotrce...imho it is way better with all the energy put in the smartphone side and then try to extend to desk19:01
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [well that's not exactly true. he said he had a problem trying to build unity8, a …], if memory serves it wasn't immediately, perhaps we are thinking of different occasions?19:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [if memory serves it wasn't immediately, perhaps we are thinking of different occ …], well i literally just went to the lomiri group and searched for posts from him, so…19:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> is there a way to search for posts by a specific someone?19:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> oh there is19:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> hmm19:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [well i literally just went to the lomiri group and searched for posts from him, …], the one i was thinking about was on the 24th of december in the devel group19:04
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> so yes different occasions19:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> anyway, yes, there isn't a single repo or script to build all the necessary dependencies and it can be not obvious what is needed, nor do we have a document on how to build the whole stack, unfortunately19:07
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @C0n57an71n [Who, me?], No. I mean them19:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [anyway, yes, there isn't a single repo or script to build all the necessary depe …], yeah true19:07
ubptgbotsecutron was added by: secutron19:10
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Aury88 [We had faced the tecnical difficulties...and not having a single developer other …], The broken logo and name discussion was the only possible for non tecnical user (other than translating)  but that was not the reason of the project failure....it's like saying that the titanic sank because of the orchestra only because the orches19:13
ubptgbottra was the last thing on the ship that was heard before it disappeared 😕 our iceberg was that there was only a single developer19:13
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Aury88 [We had faced the tecnical difficulties...and not having a single developer other …], [Edit] The broken logo and name discussion was the only possible for non tecnical user (other than translating)  but that was not the reason of the project failure....it's like saying that the titanic sank because of the orchestra only because the19:14
ubptgbot orchestra was the last thing on the ship that was heard before it disappeared 😕  … our iceberg was that there was only a single developer19:14
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> hmm yeah tis really similar to the situation ubuntu unity is in hmmmmm19:16
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Aury88 [We had faced the tecnical difficulties...and not having a single developer other …], [Edit] The logo and name discussion was the only possible for non tecnical user (other than translating)  but that was not the reason of the project failure....it's like saying that the titanic sank because of the orchestra only because the orches19:18
ubptgbottra was the last thing on the ship that was heard before it disappeared 😕  … our iceberg was that there was only a single developer19:18
ubptgbot<Aury88> that why I stopped to read the telegram group...and yes, there is to much discussion about wallpaper and logos for my taste too 😂19:22
ubptgbot<Aury88> [Edit] that why I stopped reading carefully the telegram group...I search only the Rudra posts ....and yes, there is to much discussion about wallpaper and logos for my taste too 😂19:26
ubptgbot<C0n57an71n> Wow, nice insights! Good to be here, witnessing history as it unfolds! 📽 Thank you!19:40
ubptgbot<Aury88> @Fuseteam [hmm yeah tis really similar to the situation ubuntu unity is in hmmmmm], Ps: we have to keep in mind that in ubuntu unity  rudra is "only" making a distro. Unity is maintained by another community and the distro uses  only already ported/compatible packages. That situation is different from the one in yunit and need less effort20:03
ubptgbotthan an unstable, incomplete project that need heavy development. So rudra can probably keep maintain uu without any help if unity7 maintain its compatibility.20:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> bringing unity7 to newer tech like wayland, is unlikely though20:04
ubptgbot<dohbee> old unity is a fork of compiz after all20:04
ubptgbot<Aury88> Yes, unity7 is propably a deadend. And every half year the list of unsupported (by ubuntu) but needed (for unity/compiz)package to maintain/port will be wider and harder.20:12
ubptgbot<konstantinti> Hi all, could you please tell me if there are any firewalls for UT? Is it possible to install an opensnitch firewall on UT?20:49
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There is no firewall app as such for Ubuntu Touch. You could see what your device is communicating to by learning the `netstat` command.20:50
ubptgbot<konstantinti> @ [Since the software which runs on baseband processors is usually proprietary, it …], Backdoor through a radio modem?20:54
ubptgbot<konstantinti> @UniversalSuperBox [There is no firewall app as such for Ubuntu Touch. You could see what your devic …], netstat is just information. … I'm paranoid and block everything by default. I allow it separately for each application.20:56
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Ubuntu Touch will not currently meet your needs20:56
ubptgbot<konstantinti> @UniversalSuperBox [Ubuntu Touch will not currently meet your needs], Is it possible to install an application from a .deb package built under aarch64/arm64?20:59
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> What would you like to install?20:59
ubptgbot<dohbee> i think ufw is installed but perhaps not active20:59
ubptgbot<konstantinti> @UniversalSuperBox [What would you like to install?], https://github.com/evilsocket/opensnitch/wiki/Cross-compilation20:59
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> You might be able to install this. However, it would require you to make the root filesystem read-write, it would need to be reinstalled on every update of Ubuntu Touch, and it may not work anyway.21:01
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Some info from Volla regarding the recent security breach of Gigaset.  tldr: Volla Phone users, using both Ubuntu Touch and Volla OS are not effected.21:03
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Fwd from m_aurel: Dear Community, … Some media have written about malware on devices from our supplier Gigaset. We have of course followed up on these reports and assessed the situation with our supplier.  … The Volla Phone is not affected for several reasons: … 1.  … Only older models from Gigaset are affected.  … 2.  … it is not a ha21:03
ubptgbotrdware (chipset) security vulnerability … 3.  … The Volla Phone uses a different operating system with a different code base. … 4.  … The Volla Phone uses a standalone, independent OTA server. … Thank you for the attentive users who brought the case to our attention. … We hope you enjoy using the Volla Phone. Mine is already running the Android 1021:03
ubptgbotbase :-) Soon there will be an update - via our OTA server. … Enjoy the day!21:03
ubptgbot<konstantinti> (Photo, 384x768) https://irc.ubports.com/uINL4wWW.png on PureOS21:03
ubptgbot<konstantinti> (Photo, 384x768) https://irc.ubports.com/CRLbaUJq.png on PureOS - https://puri.sm/posts/snitching-on-phones-that-snitch-on-you/21:04
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I respect that it works on other platforms. It may not work on Ubuntu Touch.21:04
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Firefox-esr 78.7 is working well (although slow, due to no hardware acceleration) in Libertine container on my Volla Phone.21:05
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> [Edit] Some info from Volla regarding the recent security breach of Gigaset.  tldr: Volla Phone users, using both Ubuntu Touch and Volla OS are not effected. ->21:05
ubptgbotScotty Clemons was added by: Scotty Clemons21:06
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> whoops - just realized they were asking about a different app.21:06
ubptgbot<konstantinti> @UniversalSuperBox [I respect that it works on other platforms. It may not work on Ubuntu Touch.], Thx21:07
ubptgbot<hwpplayer1> @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], Good21:15
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Aury88 [Ps: we have to keep in mind that in ubuntu unity  rudra is "only" making a distr …], Actually rudra is part of the unity maintainer team, but i'm aware not much is acually done in the background. He is appearently working on "unityX", before that effort, i was hoping to direct that enthusiasm towards lomiri21:16
ubptgbot<hwpplayer1> @Fuseteam [Actually rudra is part of the unity maintainer team, but i'm aware not much is a …], I need to get involved how can I start ?21:16
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @hwpplayer1 [I need to get involved how can I start ?], Involved in lomiri?21:19
ubptgbotTheOldNewGuy was added by: TheOldNewGuy21:19
ubptgbot<hwpplayer1> @Fuseteam [Involved in lomiri?], Yes GUI Environment21:19
ubptgbot<konstantinti> @dohbee [i think ufw is installed but perhaps not active], ufw seems to work with iptables, but it does not control applications.21:19
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @hwpplayer1 [Yes GUI Environment], I think you are already in the right places for that, are you in the lomiri group?21:19
ubptgbot<TheOldNewGuy> Hi21:20
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Welcome21:20
ubptgbot<hwpplayer1> @Fuseteam [I think you are already in the right places for that, are you in the lomiri grou …], I am not sure21:20
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @hwpplayer1 [I am not sure], Lemme check the name21:20
ubptgbot<hwpplayer1> @Fuseteam [Lemme check the name], 👍21:20
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> 👍21:20
ubptgbot<TheOldNewGuy> might want to try porting Halium to the Galaxy A51 once i get one xd21:22
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TheOldNewGuy [might want to try porting Halium to the Galaxy A51 once i get one xd], Cool have you seen the halium docs?21:23
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TheOldNewGuy [might want to try porting Halium to the Galaxy A51 once i get one xd], [Edit] Cool, have you seen the halium docs?21:23
ubptgbot<Scotty Clemons> [https://www.tesla.com](https://bit.ly/3tc36TO) … Super day! EIIon Musk open cryypto-giveaawayy!!!!21:29
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