[13:39] <cmaloney> Alan Pope is leaving Canonical after this month
[13:55] <jrwren> huh, i wonder why.
[13:57] <cmaloney> He was on snapcraft. I can't imagine a position more like pushing a boulder uphill than that.
[13:58] <jrwren> canonicals internal use of snap for paying clients has been very successful AFAICT
[13:59] <cmaloney> paying clients
[13:59] <cmaloney> not sure about user uptick
[14:01] <cmaloney> I could be biased in my assessment though
[14:01] <cmaloney> s/could/am/
[14:01] <cmaloney> erm, s/could be/am/
[14:02] <jrwren> oh, i am too. i strongly dislike snap.
[14:03] <jrwren> i dont' even use LXC anymore, because it went snap only.
[14:03] <cmaloney> This is why I'm on 18.04
[14:03] <cmaloney> 20.04 was just snap-happy
[14:03] <jrwren> yup.
[14:04] <jrwren> popos is pretty great at getting the snap out IIRC
[14:46] <cmaloney> cool. I might have to check it out
[14:46] <cmaloney> I'm nto sure I'm ready for 100% Debian but if that's what it takes...
[15:16] <Scary_Guy> Ignore snap, embrace flatpak
[15:20] <jrwren> exactly.