[10:03] <Laney> sooooooooooo there's a bunch of stuff in hirsute's NEW queue at the minute https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hirsute/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=
[10:04] <Laney> synced from private archives, and that means that I can't download the source it seems
[10:04] <Laney> wanted a sense check on this - I think that copying into a public queue "should" make the copied artifacts available
[10:05] <Laney> is that fair?
[10:10] <ogra> Laney, ubuntu-release has been added to the PPA
[10:10] <ogra> so that reviewing should be possible
[10:11] <ogra> (and once they are approved they will become public anyway)
[10:11] <Laney> right, that's why it's a #launchpad question
[10:12] <Laney> ubuntu-archive would probably be a slightly better team for this case, but thanks for that
[10:12] <Laney> tomwardill: ^--- my question
[10:12] <Laney> I'll file a bug if your answer is yes :-)
[10:13] <ogra> i think the current state is a safety net ... what if someone accidentially copies sensitive stuff to the public queue
[10:14] <Laney> that might make more sense if all copies from private archives always got held, but you only get that safety net here because it's NEW or the archive happens to be frozen
[10:14] <tomwardill> I think that is the rationale, but I don't know enough for sure. I'd have to ask cjwatson or wgrant :)
[10:14] <Laney> so I think it's more luck than judgement
[10:14] <ogra> heh, k
[10:14] <ogra> i didnt take that into account 🙂
[10:15] <Laney> and in the latter case, queue admins then "should" implicitly get access to the source I guess
[10:15] <ogra> (i was initially suprised, but thinking about the behaviour it seemed to make sense)
[10:15] <Laney> I see the rationale if it's deliberatly and consistently implemented :p
[10:15] <cjwatson> Laney: Could be a reasonable argument.  At the moment unembargoing only happens once the source package is actually published publicly
[10:15] <ogra> right, i assumed it was
[10:16] <cjwatson> We could certainly consider doing something for queue admins
[10:16] <cjwatson> Could you file a bug?
[10:16] <Laney> Yep, thanks for the pre-discussion
[10:20] <cjwatson> It's possible this may be difficult at the moment for the same sort of reason that https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/851562 is difficult, though
[10:20] <cjwatson> i.e. the copy doesn't actually quite know on the spot exactly what to make public right now
[10:22] <cjwatson> Laney: ^
[10:26] <Laney> cjwatson: Ah, thanks. I am sort of vaguely aware of this kind of difficulty in the things copies know about themselves
[10:26] <Laney> This particular case is very rare of course, so it'll be prioritised accordingly
[10:36] <Laney> bug #1923177
[10:36] <Laney> cheers all