| nyxyn | Fresh install of Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS. Youtube video's not playing on Firefox. Says "Your browser can't play this video" | 00:16 |
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| nyxyn | And links me to install Firefox | 00:17 |
| nyxyn | I already did an apt update and upgrade | 00:19 |
| Bashing-om | !info ubuntu-restricted-extras focal | nyxyn Try ? | 00:22 |
| ubottu | nyxyn Try ?: ubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used media codecs and fonts for Ubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 67 (focal), package size 3 kB, installed size 14 kB | 00:22 |
| nyxyn | Bashing-om, do "apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras focal"? | 00:22 |
| Maik | nyxyn: sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras | 00:23 |
| nyxyn | Maik, thank you. Trying now | 00:23 |
| Bashing-om | nyxyn: Yeah - not sure that it will resolve - but can not hurt. | 00:23 |
| Maik | not that you need it to play youtube vids | 00:23 |
| Maik | switch to html5 instead | 00:24 |
| nyxyn | How do I do that? | 00:24 |
| Maik | serach the web for youtube html5 | 00:24 |
| Maik | serach/search | 00:24 |
| nyxyn | Downloading the restricted extras did the trick | 00:26 |
| nyxyn | Thank you | 00:26 |
| Maik | np, yw | 00:26 |
| Bashing-om | \o/ nyxyn | 00:28 |
| nyxyn | You guys rock. I was just telling my wife how much trouble we would have had to go through if this was a closed source OS. Hours on the phone with tech support who probably can't answer the question. Yet I come here after not finding the answer on the google and you guys solve it in like 30 seconds | 00:34 |
| Bashing-om | nyxyn: Me Pats his 'Buntu on the back :P | 00:36 |
| JoeBk | nyxyn, chromium is a better browser for youtube. | 00:37 |
| nyxyn | I don't like google. They're too evil for me | 00:37 |
| nyxyn | But I'm stuck watching youtube | 00:38 |
| nyxyn | So I guess I should look into chromium and see if the experience is any different | 00:38 |
| JoeBk | firefox is the slow starting when compaed to chromium and chrome. I aviod using chrome. | 00:39 |
| Bashing-om | nyxyn: Be aware that chromium is now only available as a snap in ubuntu :( There may be an adjustent curve there. | 00:39 |
| nyxyn | Hmm ok | 00:40 |
| JoeBk | I also have Brave installed because it is really good at filtering ads, but it is really slow at first run. | 00:42 |
| nyxyn | Brave seems pretty nice. Is it open source? | 00:51 |
| JoeBk | nyxyn, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#:~:text=Brave%20is%20a%20free%20and,developed%20by%20Brave%20Software%2C%20Inc.&text=As%20of%202021%2C%20Brave%20has,Linux%2C%20Android%2C%20and%20iOS. | 00:54 |
| nyxyn | Nice! Thanks JoeBk | 00:54 |
| JoeBk | that article sez it's open source. | 00:54 |
| JoeBk | Brave is good when you have a problem with popups | 00:55 |
| JoeBk | for some reason Brave is really slow on first run agter boot. after that it's fine. | 00:56 |
| nyxyn | Do you guys know if I copy my .gnupg directory to another machine would I be able to use the same keys? | 01:08 |
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| Ankman | nyxyn: yes you can | 01:57 |
| sarnold | Ankman: btw, most irc clients will let you complete a nickname with tab, and if you've disabled the join/part notifications, it'll help you spot when someone's left already by not completing the nickname for you | 01:58 |
| Ankman | yes, should had checked that | 01:59 |
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| pennTeller | Does anyone know a way to make laptop trackpads on Ubuntu actually reject thumbs? | 02:32 |
| Ankman | pennTeller: mean multi touch? | 02:49 |
| Kraus | Hmmm... what's that command where when you reboot your router and want your ubuntu machine to retain a hostname on the network without restarting the machine? | 02:52 |
| Kraus | I thought it might be sudo service network-manager restart but that's not it. | 02:53 |
| pennTeller | Ankman, kind of but it's like no laptop but a Mac is able to really reject the thumb. You have to float your thumb without touching the trackpad or your thumb will mess up the pointer movement | 02:54 |
| ash_guest | when I type lsblk, I can see an attached USB drive that apparently has 3 partitions | 03:00 |
| ash_guest | only one of the partitions is mounted to /mount/... | 03:01 |
| ash_guest | can I access the other 2 partitions using the `mount` command? | 03:01 |
| Bashing-om | ash_guest: In terminal one would need to create a mount point to attach the file system(s), then yes "mount". | 03:06 |
| ash_guest | I tried it, it said, "unknown filesystem type LVM2_member" | 03:11 |
| ash_guest | ugh, and tmux isn't allow me to copy/paste on this machine :( | 03:12 |
| ash_guest | allowing* | 03:12 |
| ash_guest | w/e | 03:12 |
| ash_guest | and lsblk shows 2 lvms under it; does that mean that this is a bootable usb drive? | 03:13 |
| ash_guest | my guess is "yes" | 03:14 |
| ash_guest | I'll try shutting down and restarting with this plugged in and seeing what happens | 03:16 |
| hwpplayer1 | hi people! | 03:25 |
| hwpplayer1 | I am trying to publish a package on launchpad as a ppa package though I am curious I could not be able to send it to server | 03:26 |
| hwpplayer1 | Okay I'll be back | 03:28 |
| guiverc | hwpplayer1, packages are built on lp itself, you dput source packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Uploading emails tell you the status | 03:41 |
| guiverc | fyi. emails can take awhile to occur so be patient | 03:42 |
| ash_guest | trying to restart with the usb plugged in did not trigger the OS to load the xubuntu system on that partition | 03:45 |
| hwpplayer1 | guiverc: I would like to write a convergent framework and toolkit rather than running this project tools | 03:48 |
| hwpplayer1 | see you later friends | 03:48 |
| danielcg | anyone here using a b550 chipset? | 03:49 |
| danielcg | i can't get my fan speeds in lm-sensors | 03:49 |
| danielcg | they show up in the efi firmware and in windows but it seems like kernel 5.8 doesn't support them out of the box | 03:50 |
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| MrMobius | I disabled the optane drive on my HP x360 to install Ubuntu and dual boot and now there's no option to re-enable it in BIOS. anyone had this problem before? | 03:58 |
| danielcg | try updating the bios | 03:59 |
| danielcg | but if you have bitlocker turned on in windows this will probably make it ask for your recovery key so have that on hand before | 03:59 |
| danielcg | (not the password... the recovery key is different & i learned this the hard way lol) | 04:00 |
| MrMobius | danielcg, good idea. BIOS is latest version | 04:03 |
| danielcg | my guess is that there is another bios setting that must be set for the optane option to show up | 04:06 |
| danielcg | did you try resetting the settings to the default or 'optimal' values? | 04:10 |
| MrMobius | yes | 04:12 |
| linuxr | Hello everyone, I created flac files (incl. m3u playlists) for my audio cds which I now need to convert to mp3 for listening in my car stereo. Any idea of how to convert flac playlists to mp3? thanks | 09:23 |
| JoeBk | linuxr, try sox | 09:23 |
| sgers1 | also, you could use Handbrake for that | 09:24 |
| linuxr | the question is not so much about converting individual files but about a tool which can handle playlists as well | 09:25 |
| sgers1 | linuxr, you can import playlists in handbrake.. | 09:26 |
| sgers1 | or you could use fre:ac and NCH Switch | 09:28 |
| linuxr | sgers1, what's NCH Switch? | 09:34 |
| iekfkk | hi | 09:37 |
| iekfkk | to ssh into android echo $USER shows nothing? | 09:37 |
| juliandroske | It is nothing | 09:38 |
| juliandroske | to show current user use "whoami" instead | 09:38 |
| iekfkk | ssh needs username | 09:38 |
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| sgers1 | linuxr, it's just like fre:ac, audio converter. | 09:39 |
| sgers1 | but fre:ac is free & opensource and easier | 09:40 |
| iekfkk | ssh: connect to host 10.0.0.2 port 22: Connection refused | 09:40 |
| tomreyn | iekfkk: looks like there is no ssh server running there. | 09:45 |
| linuxr | sgers1, fre:ac looks promising, but is not in ubuntu repos? | 09:48 |
| iekfkk | tomreyn: can i reverse ssh, in termux no such pkg is there | 09:55 |
| tomreyn | linuxr: i don't think there is anything like "FLAC playlists". there is the FLAC audio format. you can use ffmpeg to vconvert audio files between formats. | 09:56 |
| tomreyn | (also to create copies) | 09:56 |
| linuxr | tomreyn, yeah no, the playlist is a m3u file which just references flac files, so I would need a tool that reads the flac files in the playlist, converts these to mp3, and creates an adapted playlist referencing the new mp3 files | 09:57 |
| tomreyn | iekfkk: the usual approach to access an android system shell remotely is through "adb shell" (which you can install with the "adb" package on ubuntu), this can also be done over a network. since this channel is about ubuntu only, we don't provide support with software (not) available on android. | 09:58 |
| iekfkk | after installing adb what to do? | 09:59 |
| iekfkk | is adb wireless? | 10:01 |
| tomreyn | linuxr: i'm not familiar with a software combining these tasks (i'm also not familiar with "fre:ac", maybe it can indeed do so). but can well imagine such exists. | 10:01 |
| iekfkk | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/adb.1.html which cmd tomreyn | 10:02 |
| tomreyn | iekfkk: adb supports debugging over the network, if this is enabled on the device to be debugged. i suggest reading up on its man page. | 10:02 |
| iekfkk | yes i enabled usb debugging but idk over network | 10:02 |
| iekfkk | i read it's man page but don't know which cmd | 10:03 |
| tomreyn | i think there's ##android or #android on freenode for all your android questions | 10:03 |
| iekfkk | ~adb connect u0_a142 | 10:04 |
| iekfkk | unable to connect to u0_a142:5555: Name or service not known | 10:04 |
| iekfkk | ~have you played with reverse ssh | 10:11 |
| sgers1 | linuxr, it's on snap store and flathub | 10:14 |
| makara1 | sarnold: its not resolved. It happened again today | 11:20 |
| makara1 | i enter my login password, and it freezes. Mouse still moves | 11:21 |
| lotuspsychje | makara1: sarnold is afk atm, feel free to re-ask your issue to the channel and the steps tryed to solve | 11:21 |
| makara1 | last log from `journalctl -k -r -b -1` is "kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1618052655.696:733): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="snap.snap-store.ubuntu-software" name="/var/lib/snapd/hostfs/usr/lib/steam/steam.desktop"" | 11:22 |
| makara1 | lotuspsychje: I can't login after a resume | 11:23 |
| lotuspsychje | !details | makara1 re-ask into the channel please | 11:35 |
| ubottu | makara1 re-ask into the channel please: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. | 11:35 |
| Maik | good afternoon all | 11:54 |
| makara1 | lotuspsychje: what more can I say? | 12:13 |
| makara1 | after resuming my machine, it hangs after entering the password | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 12:14 |
| VMGuy23 | Hello BluesKaj | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | hi VMGuy23 | 12:16 |
| VMGuy23 | BluesKaj: If you don't have a support question, head to #ubuntu-offtopic, or #ubuntu-discuss for ubuntu-related discussions. | 12:16 |
| pauljw | bwaaahahhhah | 12:19 |
| BluesKaj | VMGuy23, I don't have a support question, do you? | 12:19 |
| VMGuy23 | BluesKaj: nope, just waiting for support questions to appear | 12:19 |
| makara1 | VMGuy23: after resuming my machine, it hangs after entering the password | 12:21 |
| makara1 | the question is, why? | 12:22 |
| VMGuy23 | makara1: Is there anything you have open or instaled that might require high CPU usage constantly or change login? | 12:22 |
| Maik | VMGuy23: LOL.... BluesKaj is coming here for years on irc and this channel. He visits every day and helps with support when he can. | 12:23 |
| VMGuy23 | Maik: I've been on IRC for about a week, it's my automated response system (hand-typed) by now. | 12:24 |
| Maik | nah, you've been around longer | 12:25 |
| makara1 | VMGuy23: only firefox | 12:25 |
| VMGuy23 | makara1: Hmm, I don't know what's happening then. | 12:26 |
| makara1 | VMGuy23: you might be onto something. I have 185 tabs open | 12:29 |
| VMGuy23 | makara1: thats probably it. I reccomend 4 at maximum | 12:29 |
| makara1 | simply not possible | 12:32 |
| VMGuy23 | Is for me, I reboot a lot | 12:32 |
| makara1 | another potential issue is gnome. Especially since its getting stuck loading the desktop | 12:32 |
| makara1 | they updated something and now I can't drag windows to a new below workspace, but I can make an above workspace | 12:33 |
| VMGuy23 | makara1: You mean it's frozen for a few seconds (and other monitors turn to a single monitors) on startup? | 12:33 |
| makara1 | VMGuy23: no its frozen for ever. Mouse moves though. I have 2 monitors, they both display, but of course im only logging into one of them! ha | 12:34 |
| VMGuy23 | makara1: reinstall? it can reinstall without losing anything. | 12:34 |
| makara1 | VMGuy23: that's a bit draconian don't you think? | 12:35 |
| ducasse | makara1: can you log in via ssh? | 12:36 |
| VMGuy23 | I recently reinstalled after a disk clone, nothing was lost (including random folders in /) | 12:36 |
| makara1 | ducasse: from where? | 12:36 |
| ducasse | from another host | 12:37 |
| makara1 | ducasse: i have one computer | 12:37 |
| ducasse | your phone, then | 12:37 |
| makara1 | what a mission | 12:37 |
| ducasse | fiddly, but works | 12:37 |
| VMGuy23 | mosh | 12:37 |
| ducasse | it's just to confirm what is running, maybe restart the desktop | 12:38 |
| makara1 | why isn't there a log that tells me whats going on? | 12:38 |
| ducasse | it'll only work if sshd is running | 12:38 |
| ducasse | can you access a terminal? | 12:39 |
| makara1 | look, resume from sleep is notorious. Even if I get it working again, I still don't know what the problem was, and ill have to repeat this procedure. And at the moment I'm suspecting an upgrade of gnome | 12:40 |
| VMGuy23 | Ctrl+Alt+F5 will bring you to a terminal, log in and now you can use the terminal | 12:40 |
| makara1 | VMGuy23: from where? when? | 12:41 |
| VMGuy23 | makara1: snywhere. | 12:41 |
| VMGuy23 | *Anywhere | 12:41 |
| VMGuy23 | Anytime your PC is on | 12:41 |
| VMGuy23 | the liock screen will work | 12:41 |
| makara1 | ctrl+alt+f5 does nothing. ctrl+alt+t opens a terminal like it always has | 12:42 |
| VMGuy23 | ctrl+alt+f5 should say; "Ubuntu <version> <hostname> tty5" then "<hostname> login:" | 12:43 |
| tomreyn | you may need to add the Fn (function) key to that on a laptop | 12:44 |
| tomreyn | most of the time, resume from suspend issues are related to acpi implementation issues on the mainboard firmware's end. there can be other reasons, though. you can review your logs using journalctl. look for " PM: " records, those indicate power management events, such as resume. | 12:46 |
| makara1 | tomreyn: what unit? | 12:49 |
| tomreyn | after those occur, you may see kernel oopses indicated by "--- cut here ---", "ACPI" related errors or similar problems. you can limit journal logs to just kernel logs by passing -k. Use -b0 to limit logs to the current kernel session (since latest reboot, covering anything since then, including suspend and resume) | 12:49 |
| tomreyn | i would not limit to a specific unit | 12:49 |
| tomreyn | you'd loose too much context. | 12:49 |
| makara1 | tomreyn: it only freezes after I hit enter on my password, so I don't see this as being an acpi issue | 12:49 |
| tomreyn | those can have all kinds of unexpected results, including slow or stuck disk access. | 12:50 |
| makara1 | there was a warning: [Firmware Bug]: TSC ADJUST differs: CPU0 0 --> -21835381. Restoring | 12:51 |
| tomreyn | this was during initial boot, though, right? | 12:51 |
| tomreyn | so not after resume, or was it? | 12:52 |
| makara1 | i looks like it didn't sleep properly: Freezing of tasks failed after 20.008 seconds (11 tasks refusing to freeze, wq_busy=0): | 12:52 |
| makara1 | tomreyn: initial and after resume are the same boot. I'm onto my second boot | 12:53 |
| makara1 | oh, ok. 1st was going to sleep, 2nd was the failed resume, 3rd is me going through logs | 12:54 |
| tomreyn | i meant to be asking whether the above message was logged before or after resume. | 12:54 |
| tomreyn | before you spend potentially a lot of time on analyzing logs, you may want to just upgrade your bios, though, if you've not already done so. | 12:55 |
| tomreyn | journalctl -b | grep DMI: returns your current version and hardware identifier | 12:55 |
| makara1 | tomreyn: after resuming | 12:57 |
| makara1 | tomreyn: I get this one for the current boot: [Firmware Bug]: TSC ADJUST: CPU0: -22750694 force to 0 | 12:57 |
| makara1 | tomreyn: DMI: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. UX530UX/UX530UX, BIOS UX530UX.311 04/19/2019 | 12:57 |
| makara1 | but these type of warnings/errors are always in the kernel logs. Like this one: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bus: MMIO read of 00000000 FAULT at 619444 [ IBUS ] | 12:58 |
| tomreyn | makara1: so checking the manufacturer website is next | 12:58 |
| tomreyn | if you get the TSC mismatch *only* after resume but not during boot, then this does look like buggy firmware indeed | 12:59 |
| makara1 | now I can't select text in the terminal with my mouse. Its Gnome3 I swear | 13:00 |
| tomreyn | well, otherwise, too, but after resume only could explain problems occurring after resume only | 13:00 |
| tomreyn | your bios version is the latest one available at this time. you could share your logs on a pastebin of by piping them into nc termbin.com 9999 | 13:03 |
| tomreyn | the nouveau open source nvidia graphics chipset driver has lots of deficits because there is not enough hardware documentation available. | 13:04 |
| VMGuy23 | <command> | nc termbin.com 9999 | 13:05 |
| makara1 | tomreyn: i have the latest bios | 13:07 |
| tomreyn | makara1: i concur (see above) | 13:09 |
| makara1 | sorry, yes | 13:09 |
| makara1 | just had my brain laundries by asus.com | 13:09 |
| tomreyn | !acpi_osi | makara1: depending on the actual problems reported on your logs (which i don't think we know, yet), this *may* help: | 13:12 |
| ubottu | makara1: depending on the actual problems reported on your logs (which i don't think we know, yet), this *may* help:: If your system is unstable or power management does not work well and logs show ACPI issues, you can try to make the Linux kernel pretend it was Windows during boot (which can help on hardware which was only tested with Windows): http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html | 13:12 |
| makara1 | tomreyn: thanks I'll look at that | 13:23 |
| makara1 | but in the meantime, while I was preparing logs and removing snaps, I noticed I have 2 snaps of gnome installed | 13:24 |
| makara1 | gnome-3-28-1804 and gnome-3-34-1804 | 13:24 |
| makara1 | what should it be for Ubuntu 20.04.2 | 13:24 |
| VMGuy23 | I remove both and it works fine for me | 13:25 |
| makara1 | i see gnome-3-34-1804 snap candidate channel release a version 3 days ago | 13:30 |
| makara1 | to fix this issue, no doubt!! | 13:30 |
| tomreyn | makara1: those snaps just provide gnome libraries, only those specifically needed will be used by other snaps. gnome itself is still provided by apt | 13:30 |
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| VMGuy23 | how to get Adwaita gnome-shell theme | 14:09 |
| Maik | VMGuy23: install gnome-tweak-tool and see if you can select it from there | 14:17 |
| Maik | if not, try installing ubuntu gnome vanilla desktop and choose it from the login screen at the bottom right | 14:18 |
| VMGuy23 | Tweaks didnt work, now trying second option | 14:19 |
| Maik | VMGuy23: sudo apt install vanilla-gnome-desktop | 14:20 |
| VMGuy23 | would "gnome" not work? | 14:20 |
| Maik | VMGuy23: you could try | 14:27 |
| kenperkins | so I have a usb device that controls my fans and temperature settings, and I want to figure out how to get the temperature from a sensor on this usb device | 14:30 |
| hwpplayer1 | hi people! | 17:10 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Hello hwpplayer1 | 17:13 |
| Maik | hi hwpplayer1 | 17:15 |
| ash_mobile | I have a dual-boot system with Windows 10 and Ubuntu 20.04, grub is the first boot option it allows me to pick between the two. I'm trying to boot from a USB stick right now and I can't seem to get it to work either through the bios options or the grub menu | 17:33 |
| ash_mobile | Grub doesn't display it and it doesn't look like the bios options do either | 17:34 |
| ash_mobile | The USB stick is formatted EXT4 | 17:34 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: what is on the USB stick? | 17:35 |
| VMGuy23[m] | ash_mobile: GRUB does not show USB sticks. What is on the stick? | 17:35 |
| ash_mobile | BurmillaOS (a community fork of RancherOS) | 17:36 |
| ash_mobile | VMGuy23[m] ^ | 17:36 |
| ash_mobile | Oops, I'm answering the wrong person | 17:36 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Use a FAT filesystem and try again. | 17:36 |
| VMGuy23[m] | (note: my IRC clients a bit slow) | 17:37 |
| Sven_vB | hi! how can I run an vmdk file (I assume it means VMWare Disk image?) in Ubuntu focal? my search engine foo only yields how to run focal in VMWare. | 17:37 |
| ash_mobile | VMGuy23[m] oh? So EXT4 isn't good is a bootable? | 17:37 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Sven_vB: Get VMWare Player for Linux and create a VM with that disk | 17:37 |
| Sven_vB | VMGuy23[m], thanks, I'll try that | 17:37 |
| VMGuy23[m] | ash_mobile: Not that I know of. Mint uses FAT | 17:38 |
| VMGuy23[m] | for its installer | 17:38 |
| ash_mobile | VMGuy23[m] I see, it's weird when I look at Gparted I formatted it as an EXT4 but it shows up as ISO9660 | 17:39 |
| Sven_vB | is VMWare player free software? | 17:39 |
| VMGuy23[m] | kaibuntu | 17:39 |
| VMGuy23[m] | i... didnt send that | 17:39 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: does the ISO support EFI and Legacy boot? | 17:39 |
| ash_mobile | I'm not sure, it's a container OS | 17:40 |
| Sven_vB | I see, it's now called "VMware Workstation Player" and is not free | 17:40 |
| ash_mobile | So I think it's support is limited | 17:40 |
| Sven_vB | is there free software for Ubuntu focal that can play VMWare disk images? | 17:40 |
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| VMGuy23[m] | Sven_vB: It is free, you can use it unlicensed legally as long as its not for commercial use | 17:42 |
| rfm | Sven_vB, virtualbox can read vmdks. it may take a little fiddling with the vm settings to get it to boot | 17:42 |
| Sven_vB | rfm, thanks! | 17:42 |
| ash_mobile | Okay, I'm gonna try it as fat32 | 17:48 |
| ash_mobile | Guess I'll check the bios options first to see if something shows up | 17:48 |
| ash_mobile | Doesn't show up in bios | 17:50 |
| ash_mobile | I guess it could be "USB HDD" | 17:51 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Check that | 17:51 |
| ash_mobile | I just expected something to say SanDisk on it I guess | 17:51 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Do you have a USB HDD plugged in? | 17:51 |
| ash_mobile | Not an external HDD, no | 17:52 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Try the USB HDD then. See what phappens | 17:52 |
| ash_mobile | And that didn't work either and when I saw the grab menu although it went too quickly for me it didn't show the USB drive either | 17:52 |
| VMGuy23[m] | *happens | 17:52 |
| ash_mobile | I can try the Windows force boot as USB option | 17:52 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Put it on to FAT. | 17:52 |
| ash_mobile | On fat now | 17:52 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Just check BIOS for it | 17:53 |
| VMGuy23[m] | thats the best way | 17:53 |
| ash_mobile | I did! | 17:53 |
| ash_mobile | I tried the windows force boot as USB, even though it said specifically was in EFI boot operation and I got an error that says "system doesn't have any USB boot option" | 17:54 |
| ash_mobile | I guess that's something I can Google | 17:55 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Did BIOS work? | 17:56 |
| ash_mobile | VMGuy23[m] no | 17:57 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Strange. | 17:58 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: It is possible to load an ISO from Grub, but it is done manually | 17:59 |
| ash_mobile | jeremy31 like, from the grab command prompt? | 18:00 |
| ash_mobile | Grub* | 18:00 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: yes | 18:00 |
| ash_mobile | I got a tip that said this was a legacy boot problem I'm gonna try enabling that first | 18:01 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: If the USB is inserted, check for EFI System Partition on the USB with> sudo parted -l | 18:03 |
| ash_mobile | jeremy31 should I try that before switching from UEFI to Legacy? | 18:03 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: I would just to see | 18:04 |
| ash_mobile | Okay | 18:04 |
| ash_mobile | It would be nice if I could get the USB drive to shop without having to switch to legacy | 18:04 |
| ash_mobile | Tbh, for the intermediate long run this is gonna be linked to a virtual box image | 18:05 |
| ash_mobile | It doesn't look like there's an EFI system partition on the USB drive. Can I make one with gparted? | 18:07 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: I don't think that will work properly | 18:08 |
| ash_mobile | How can I make an EFI system partition? | 18:08 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: easier to just enable legacy support | 18:10 |
| ash_mobile | jeremy31 okay I'll try them virtual box first | 18:12 |
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| ash_mobile | Hmm, not working when I link the USB device to a VMDK | 18:26 |
| ash_mobile | I just get a blank prompt on the VM | 18:26 |
| jeremy31 | Is the VM set up for legacy boot? | 18:27 |
| ldsh | Hi all, I'm using some intel rapl info in my conky, and since an update there informations are not readable any more from user (need to have root permissions or change the rapl files' permissions to root). What would be the cleanest way to go? Conky with root rights is not advised, so should I change the rights of the rapl files to root on each startup, or having a task with root rights to copy in another file in tmpfs that can be | 18:30 |
| ldsh | readed by user? or? | 18:30 |
| tomreyn | the latter. unless you expect rapl to be safe enough that every user should be able to run it as root, then you could suid it (probably not a good idea). | 18:36 |
| ash_mobile | Weird, so in both cases I get just a cursor when I try to boot BurmillOS, both on my machine and in a VM | 18:40 |
| ash_mobile | So I guess I didn't create the disk correctly | 18:40 |
| ash_mobile | Oh shit | 18:41 |
| ash_mobile | " failed to open EFI boot MMx64.EFI" | 18:41 |
| ash_mobile | " something has gone seriously wrong: import_mok_state() failed | 18:42 |
| ldsh | tomreyn, I'm the only user, the values are read only and it didn't need root access for years. I however don't know the reason for them to change to root only now. | 18:42 |
| ash_mobile | Damn it, I knew I shouldn't of change the UEFI option | 18:43 |
| ash_mobile | Seems like it can still be windows though | 18:44 |
| jeremy31 | Looks like Secure Boot causing a problem | 18:44 |
| ash_mobile | Any idea why the grub money won't work? | 18:44 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: Try writing the ISO to USB using the Ubuntu USB startup disc tool | 18:45 |
| ash_mobile | Well, right now I'm just trying to able to use ubuntu at all | 18:45 |
| ash_mobile | jeremy31 ^ | 18:45 |
| tomreyn | ldsh: this could be because it was determined to allow for privilege escalation, or to cause any form of harm a restricted user should not be able to carry out. i do not actually know the software (other than its general purpose). | 18:46 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: What tool did you make the USB with? | 18:46 |
| ash_mobile | Gparted, but that's not my issue at all right now | 18:47 |
| ash_mobile | Like I literally can't load Ubuntu at all on my normal laptop | 18:47 |
| ash_mobile | it says "something has seriously gone wrong" and turns off | 18:47 |
| ash_mobile | It seems to be the case with the grab option set in the bios | 18:48 |
| ash_mobile | I can at least use the Windows boot manager | 18:48 |
| ash_mobile | But for some reason I can't get grub to work at all | 18:48 |
| ldsh | tomreyn, The data I'm interested in are just energy consumed by CPU. | 18:49 |
| ldsh | So if i Understand well, the safest is to have a specific root task to make a copy to a file that can be read. | 18:50 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: So the USB without the EFI partition has Ubuntu on it? | 18:53 |
| ash_mobile | jeremy31 my current (new) problem has nothing to do with USBs | 18:55 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: HP laptop? | 18:55 |
| ash_mobile | jeremy31 Acer, here's what I get when biases such a load grub first: https://gist.github.com/ash-m/e9418254942fb8e7ac092b7559b1bf26 | 18:58 |
| ash_mobile | Bios* | 18:58 |
| ash_mobile | Set* to load | 18:58 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: Is BIOS set to UEFI only? | 19:00 |
| ash_mobile | Yes? It's set to "UEFI" | 19:01 |
| BadBoyHaloCat | Why do I get this message from bash every so often? "You have new mail in /var/mail/root" | 19:03 |
| BadBoyHaloCat | I don't even know why /var/mail/* is ever getting populated, does the system send mail to root at some times? | 19:03 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: Can you choose to boot an efi file in BIOS? | 19:03 |
| ash_mobile | I don't think so, but I'll look at what the options are | 19:04 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: Might have to send it to \EFI\BOOT\ubuntu\ | 19:04 |
| JoeBk | ls /var/mail | 19:04 |
| ash_mobile | Oh wait | 19:04 |
| JoeBk | oops | 19:04 |
| ash_mobile | Silly me, I know what happened | 19:04 |
| jeremy31 | good | 19:05 |
| JoeBk | my system has nothing in /var/mail | 19:05 |
| ash_mobile | When I change the boot option from UEFI to Legacy and back it reset secure boot option to true | 19:05 |
| ash_mobile | Which apparently grub cannot handle | 19:06 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: Ubuntu grub should handle it | 19:06 |
| ash_mobile | It's because it's a dual-boot machine | 19:06 |
| ash_mobile | I don't know how else to do it | 19:06 |
| ash_mobile | If you know of a tutorial or something online that can help me navigate those waters I'd appreciate it | 19:07 |
| ash_mobile | it would be nice to have an encrypted file system on here to | 19:07 |
| jeremy31 | ash_mobile: I know the Ubuntu ISO can boot and install with Secure Boot enabled but if you need out of kernel modules for Nvidia graphics then some people disable Secure Boot | 19:08 |
| ash_mobile | This laptop does use an Nvidia GeForce graphics card | 19:08 |
| ash_mobile | Anyway back to the USB stuff | 19:08 |
| ash_mobile | I'm gonna try copying again with the DD command | 19:10 |
| Maik | on Ubuntu Disks with the Restore Disk Image is also a option to flash a usb stick | 19:13 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Startup Disk Creator? | 19:15 |
| ash_mobile | VMGuy23[m] I can't use the start up disk creator because it won't show the ISO I'm trying to use | 19:16 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Other | 19:16 |
| ash_mobile | Maybe if I run it with sudo… | 19:16 |
| ash_mobile | When I select other I can choose the file but nothing appears in the box and it won't let me continue | 19:17 |
| VMGuy23[m] | yeah neither | 19:18 |
| Maik | ash_mobile: which iso is that? | 19:18 |
| ash_mobile | BurmillaOS (a community fork of RancherOS) | 19:19 |
| EriC^^ | ash_mobile: you're using it with uefi? | 19:19 |
| ash_mobile | Does anyone know the commandline name for the disc creator? | 19:19 |
| ash_mobile | EriC^^ well... there's a story about that | 19:20 |
| JoeBk | ash you can use dd to create startup media | 19:20 |
| ash_mobile | Firstly I don't really know how UEFI relates to a specific OS other than possibly compatibility: I'm trying to run this in virtual box and I'm testing it on my laptop | 19:21 |
| ash_mobile | In both cases all I get is a cursor | 19:21 |
| ash_mobile | If I run it on my laptop I have to set the bios to legacy | 19:21 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Judt a flashing "_"? | 19:21 |
| VMGuy23[m] | Try redownloading the .iso | 19:21 |
| JoeBk | what OS is that? | 19:21 |
| ash_mobile | VMGuy23[m] yes @ flashing | 19:22 |
| ash_mobile | JoeBk burillaos | 19:22 |
| ash_mobile | Gotta eat, bbs | 19:22 |
| JoeBk | I never even heard of burillaos. | 19:23 |
| Maik | well, if the usb booting is the issue with that OS iso then it's not supported here | 19:25 |
| DaKnig | hello. I have Ubuntu 19.10 and I want to update it to 20LTS since that is still supported, however when I try to `sudo apt update` I get some errors saying I should check my internet connection. but obviously, since I am here, I have a stable internet connection. what gives? | 19:39 |
| VMGuy23[m] | have you tried Software Updater | 19:40 |
| DaKnig | here is what it tells me: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wx6QgMfQ9b/ | 19:41 |
| ioria | !19.10 | 19:41 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) was the 31st release of Ubuntu, support ended July 2020. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-July/005494.html | 19:41 |
| ioria | !eol | 19:42 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 19:42 |
| DaKnig | yes it stops. that's why I am trying to upgrade away from it. | 19:42 |
| DaKnig | did they kill the apt repos for it? | 19:43 |
| ioria | DaKnig, you need to change your sources.list | 19:43 |
| Maik | 19.10 is now part of old releases so are the repo's | 19:43 |
| Maik | Why not just download a 20.04 LTS iso and do a clean install, much faster | 19:44 |
| ash_mobile | JoeBk sorry, I meant BurmillaOS, it's a community fork of the container OS, RancherOS. | 19:46 |
| DaKnig | because I have stuff on my machine that I dont want to uninstall or remove | 19:46 |
| JoeBk | ash_mobile, I see it now. | 19:47 |
| Maik | DaKnig: i see | 19:47 |
| ash_mobile | EriC^^ do you know what the cli command is to run the disk creator? | 19:47 |
| ioria | Dusb-creator-gtk | 19:47 |
| ioria | usb-creator-gtk | 19:47 |
| ash_mobile | Thanks! | 19:48 |
| ioria | it works only for ubuntu (i guess) | 19:48 |
| Maik | yep | 19:48 |
| ash_mobile | Aww... So running it in sudo won't help :( | 19:48 |
| ash_mobile | It's weird because virtual box can run ISO by itself just fine, I really need to be able to run USB stick | 19:53 |
| DaKnig | ioria: trying to follow the tutorial you sent, I type `update-manager` into the terminal and trying to follow the tutorial; however it opens the Software Updater, not Update Manager. when I press the "Install Now" button after it prompts me to update some things, I still get the "check your internet connection" error | 19:56 |
| DaKnig | but my internet works fine. | 19:56 |
| DaKnig | so it feels like I am stuck on Ubuntu 19.10... | 19:57 |
| Maik | mind posting the output when you do sudo apt update? use paste.ubuntu.com | 19:59 |
| DaKnig | here is what it tells me: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wx6QgMfQ9b/ /p/wx6QgMfQ9b/ | 20:03 |
| Maik | you probaly need to switch to the old releases repo's | 20:05 |
| DaKnig | I didnt chane anything to the newer repo, or at least i dont thing i did | 20:05 |
| DaKnig | looks like it mentions eoan which is the version of ubuntu I have | 20:06 |
| Maik | DaKnig: when a version goes EOL it and it's repo's become a old release | 20:06 |
| DaKnig | what should i do? | 20:07 |
| Maik | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 20:07 |
| Maik | probably that^ | 20:08 |
| superdreamkilla | is there a Lubuntu Neon, or a way to get LXQt .16 instead of .15 through the package manager? | 20:09 |
| Maik | superdreamkilla: no | 20:10 |
| Maik | DaKnig: did you change the sources list to old-releases.ubuntu.com at all? | 20:10 |
| hello_kitty | where does the authorized ssh key usually go? I've got a server that I use an ssh key to log into, and I'm looking in ~/.ssh and I don't see an authorized_keys directory.. is that not where that lives? | 20:13 |
| crimson_king | hello_kitty, My authorized keys are in the file .ssh/authorized_keys | 20:16 |
| hello_kitty | does it involve a username now? my key is for a specific user, but im signed in as root at the moment | 20:20 |
| hello_kitty | ah yes, there it is | 20:20 |
| hello_kitty | Hmm i appear to have the right key, but I still can't ssh into my machine. If I had incorrectly pasted these keys (they moved from windows to linux a few times) would I get an obvious error? Or would I just be turned away for having the wrong key? using command ssh someuser@someserver | 20:30 |
| tomreyn | hello_kitty: the latter | 20:33 |
| tomreyn | do you still have access another way? | 20:33 |
| hello_kitty | yea my harddrive died and I assumed i was out of luck.. but my host has a weblish console so I just go in there and I was going to add a new key... only to find that they key i had backed up is the key on this server -- so I did have the right key all along | 20:34 |
| tomreyn | if so, you can verify the file using ssh-keygen -l -f /path/to/.ssh/authorized_keys | 20:34 |
| hello_kitty | so i think im just using ssh-agent / add incorrectly, or i've added spaces or something like that | 20:34 |
| tomreyn | you can also copy and paste the key into ssh-keygen -l -f - | 20:36 |
| tomreyn | and press enter | 20:36 |
| hello_kitty | what should it say? I'm passing it my local id_rsa (the one i may have copied incorrectly) | 20:37 |
| hello_kitty | the remote id_rsa.pub I think is fine, or alteast I haven't touched it since last it worked | 20:37 |
| tomreyn | id_rsa would be a private key | 20:37 |
| hello_kitty | maybe im doing this incorrectly. id_rsa.pub is on the remote machine, and then on my local machine I've done eval `ssh-agent -s` followed my ssh-add /path/to/id_rsa | 20:38 |
| tomreyn | but no matter what, it should report its keylength, shah, fingerprint, comment | 20:39 |
| tomreyn | and type | 20:39 |
| hello_kitty | okay that looks good | 20:39 |
| tomreyn | "shah" -> "hash" | 20:39 |
| hello_kitty | do the usernames matter? b/c those have certainly changed since I reformatted | 20:40 |
| tomreyn | which usernames? | 20:41 |
| tomreyn | key material itself is not specific to user accounts | 20:41 |
| hello_kitty | can user foo run the command ssh bar@somewhere? ' | 20:41 |
| hello_kitty | or does that attempt to use bar's keys | 20:42 |
| tomreyn | yes, if a public key of a key pair foo has access to is installed at bar@somewhere's home in .ssh/authorized_keys | 20:42 |
| tomreyn | this was in response to your first question, <hello_kitty> can user foo run the command ssh bar@somewhere? ' | 20:42 |
| hello_kitty | oh that is probably my problem then | 20:43 |
| tomreyn | ... and the connection is established in a way that this key is attempted to authenticate with, e.g. -i | 20:43 |
| DaKnig | Maik: now I did; I commented all the existing lines in my file /etc/apt/sources.list and added the lines from EOLUpgrades#Upgrading on the link you sent. I am trying to run `sudo update-manager` and it still fails to connect to the internet | 20:45 |
| Maik | then i don't know | 20:46 |
| Maik | did you run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade first? | 20:47 |
| Maik | if nothing works then you have to deal with losing your settings and stuff by downloading the 20.04 LTS iso and clean install. Backup all you important files first onto a external drive. | 20:49 |
| Sven_vB | I'm trying to recover a 32bit VM using the Ubuntu 14.04.3 live ISO. is there an easier way to open a terminal, than Alt+F2, xterm, Enter? | 20:49 |
| tomreyn | Sven_vB: the ubuntu releases supported on this channel are listed in the /topic (and i think gnome 2 had a meta-t or ctrl-alt-t shortcut) | 20:51 |
| Sven_vB | tomreyn, thanks! | 20:52 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome | 20:52 |
| Sven_vB | yeah, Meta+t = Trash, Ctrl+Alt+t = Terminal | 20:52 |
| tomreyn | DaKnig: ou can run this to share your apt source configurations: grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:54 |
| Maik | tomreyn: he's running a EOL version, 19.10, and it says it fails to connect to the internet which i find weird | 20:57 |
| tomreyn | oh, "fails to connect to the internet", i missed this part | 20:58 |
| Maik | i hope it's a lesson learned to upgrade in time and not wait for almost a year :) | 20:58 |
| jeremy31 | I wonder if they are at some university or somewhere that may block some sites | 20:58 |
| Maik | hmmm.... good one jeremy31 | 21:00 |
| Maik | DaKnig: ^^^ | 21:00 |
| tomreyn | i think the "check your internet connection" error message returned by update-manager is just a red herring. it'll be due to the "no longer has a Release file" situation | 21:00 |
| hello_kitty | i've been trying ssh -i /home/me/.ssh/id_rsa bar@server.com -vvv ;; does that seem right? login as bar, using my id_rsa? the verbose debug show a ton of stuff, at one point it includes "Offering public key" and then my id_rsa. It gets a packet response of type 51 (not sure what that means, but I'm guessing it's not good). It then goes on to | 21:00 |
| hello_kitty | try the rest of my keys before ending with Permission denied (publickey) | 21:01 |
| tomreyn | hello_kitty: then i guess the public key that can be calculated from your /home/me/.ssh/id_rsa is not a usable authentication key on the server, for user "bar" there. | 21:03 |
| Maik | tomreyn: even after changing the sources.list to old releases and running a update check first? | 21:03 |
| hello_kitty | thanks tomreyn | 21:04 |
| tomreyn | Maik: did it remove these error messages? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wx6QgMfQ9b/ | 21:04 |
| Maik | that can only DaKnig answer | 21:04 |
| Maik | i asked him if he ran sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade first but he didn't confirm it yet | 21:05 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome hello_kitty | 21:05 |
| tomreyn | DaKnig has been inactive for 20 minutes, we should probably not spend too much efforts for now. | 21:06 |
| Maik | we'll see | 21:09 |
| hello_kitty | i think i've learned that `receive packet: type 51` in ssh means that the server encountered a permissions error | 21:13 |
| hello_kitty | can the server encounter a permissions error with the client's file permissions.,..? | 21:13 |
| tomreyn | 51 is the code for SSH_MSG_USERAUTH_FAILURE | 21:14 |
| tomreyn | sshd would not expose why authentication failed to an unauthenticated client | 21:14 |
| tomreyn | if you still have server access, inspect its logs to understand why authentication fails | 21:14 |
| tomreyn | and no, the server cannot "encounter a permissions error with the client's file permissions" (unless the ssh client was unable to read a local key file and thus authentication failed) | 21:15 |
| DaKnig | Maik: it looks like ...something... changed and now it decided to do something | 21:21 |
| DaKnig | thanks | 21:21 |
| tomreyn | DaKnig: something is something something. we wish you something! | 21:22 |
| DaKnig | apt update && apt upgrade now succeeded without the "not connected" messages, it upgraded some packages and required a restart and now some window popped up asking to upgrade to ubuntu 20. thanks! | 21:22 |
| DaKnig | tomreyn: I wish you the same! | 21:23 |
| hello_kitty | well that wasn't what i expected! Connection closed by authenticating user <myname> <myip> port <whatever> [preauth] | 21:23 |
| tomreyn | DaKnig: hopefully that was something good then. ;-) | 21:24 |
| DaKnig | yes. I will be back when and if I'd have further trouble. thanks! | 21:25 |
| tomreyn | hello_kitty: i guess that's the server saying "this client didn't get to a point where i could have decided whether oir not i'd let them in". | 21:26 |
| tomreyn | hello_kitty: which of the two runs ubuntu, which releases? | 21:26 |
| tomreyn | DaKnig: you're welcome, good luck. | 21:28 |
| hello_kitty | The server to which I'm trying to connect is 18.10. The client which I'm using is Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS running inside of WSL2. It can pull down git repos via ssh so at least that much works. | 21:31 |
| hello_kitty | I had a very similar setup right before my drive died -- and what's new in the new setup is WSL2 (instead of WSL1), and my usernames are different. I also copied the keys from where I backed them up, so I could've made an error doing that. | 21:32 |
| tomreyn | !18.10 | 21:32 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) was the 29th release of Ubuntu. Support ended July 18th, 2019. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2019-July/004996.html | 21:32 |
| tomreyn | it hasn't seen updates in a while. the 18.04 LTS may in fact be using newer authentication mechanism the 18.10 doesn't know about. | 21:33 |
| hello_kitty | oh interesting | 21:35 |
| tomreyn | wsl2 may actually treat unix permissions as they are meant to be, while wsl1 did not. | 21:35 |
| tomreyn | so maybe the problem is just that your ssh client cant or decides against reading the secret key. | 21:35 |
| tomreyn | you're trying hard to not give away details, though, which doesn't make debugging things easier. | 21:36 |
| jeremy31 | I think they were logged in as root, aren't the keys user dependent? | 21:37 |
| tomreyn | the ssh client would deny reading secret keys from a file or directory not owned by the same user | 21:38 |
| cbreak | hello_kitty: use -v | 21:45 |
| hello_kitty | i think i'll try some other machines with the same keys. It may be this whole server version thing. With the -vvvvv flags all the client ever says is 'received packet 51' and in the server logs depending what exactly I try it is some variant of Connection closed by authenticating user [preauth] (when using ssh), or Connection reset by | 21:51 |
| hello_kitty | authenticating user (when using ssh.exe) | 21:51 |
| tomreyn | ssh.exe doesn't sound like !WSL | 21:53 |
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| luna | i wanna die | 22:23 |
| leftyfb | luna: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? | 22:24 |
| luna | no so i will keep silent | 22:25 |
| Maik | luna: you've been around long enough now to know that casual talk belongs in offtopic. Right? And it would be nice to not leave when someone is talking to you. ;) :) | 22:33 |
| Maik | !discuss | luna | 22:33 |
| ubottu | luna: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 22:33 |
| Maik | so come to either of those channels instead | 22:34 |
| luna | nevermind it won't help anyways | 22:34 |
| Maik | luna either talk to us in one of those channels or seek help if you have a hard time, but don't go around in various ubuntu channel posting the same thing trying to get attention :) | 22:38 |
| Maik | know that they are logged too | 22:38 |
| Maik | i offered you to talk and if you don't want to anymore, then not. i'll leave it at that. :) | 22:39 |
| Maik | DaKnig: yay! so it worked after all. :) | 22:49 |
| luizfrds | there is a debian channel? | 23:10 |
| tonyt | #debian | 23:11 |
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