[00:32] <doug16k> why do I have to log into a machine to connect to its desktop sharing? it's awful if I have to go locally do a bunch of stuff before I connect
[00:33] <doug16k> at first I thought it was because no monitor was connected, apparently that wasn't it
[00:34] <doug16k> oh yeah, and if I unplug the monitor, desktop sharing screen stops updating
[01:56] <tatertots> doug16k: nobody has a "session" you can connect to remotely until a user logs in locally (stock by default)
[01:57] <tatertots> doug16k: not as awful as it might seem on the surface
[01:58] <tatertots> doug16k: if no local user has logged into their session, there's nothing for you to connect to (yet)
[02:05] <doug16k> ah, I thought it was usable to connect to a running machine in another room
[04:57] <thecocoa1> 1
[05:05] <abcdefg_irssi> hello
[05:05] <abcdefg_irssi> can someone help me
[05:06] <abcdefg_irssi> i am trying to login to a server via ssh
[05:06] <abcdefg_irssi> but keep getting network is unreachable
[05:06] <abcdefg_irssi> is the command just ssh username@ip-address
[06:42] <alystair> is there a way for me to review changelogs for outdated apt-get packages before updating?
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> alystair: whats your end goal exactly?
[06:47] <alystair> I like to know what's being updated before I update it - this is just my local development box :D
[06:48] <alystair> I blindly apt-get update/upgrade every few days but feel it might eventually bite me in the ass
[06:48] <alystair> via CLI
[06:49] <alystair> under WSL2 :D
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> alystair: lets say you found a changelog and dont like the new feature of your updated program, its still reccomended to keep your system up to date right?
[06:51] <alystair> I still like to know what has changed...
[06:52] <alystair> knowledge is power after all!
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> true/fair
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> alystair: apt-get changelog packagename
[06:54] <alystair> seems there's a changelog function but I need to get a list of my currently installed packages because I hardly remember the names of the ones I feel are important lol
[06:55] <alystair> aha got it
[07:38] <atari2600a> hey, can y'all thank the #ubuntu+1 team for fixing half the shit I bitched about before they banned me?  The ability to change sessions at the gdm screen is back.  xwayland is still broken though, but at least I have x back. & therefore, 24-bit graphics.
[07:39] <atari2600a> don't get me wrong I'm not one of those anti-wayland FREAKS.  It's just, the vc4 implementation is all kinds of broken right now.  Reminds me of x86 wayland in 2014 actually
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> please keep language polite in the support channel atari2600a
[07:39] <atari2600a> 'support' lol
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> discuss in #ubuntu-discuss leave this channel free for support questions tnx
[07:40] <atari2600a> oh, & it's not like I didn't try the usual, like dpkg-reconfigure xwayland
[07:40] <atari2600a> oh it's free alright
[07:41] <atari2600a> HELLO Hello hello hello hello [hello] (hello)
[07:41] <atari2600a> kthxbye
[07:44] <Deknos> does debsecan also work on ubuntu properly?
[07:44] <Deknos> or will it also use the debian CVE entries?
[08:18] <guiverc> Deknos, from what I can see it's a debian tool & uses debian CVE trackers
[08:24] <Deknos> is there an equivalent for ubuntu?
[08:25] <cbreak> didn't ubuntu switch away from wayland again?
[08:26] <guiverc> Deknos, url via https://ubuntu.com/security/cve (not a system check though) but i saw reference to the Ubuntu security team pushing people towards lanscape
[08:27] <guiverc> cbreak, ubuntu-discuss for non-support questions.
[08:41] <Deknos> yeah, i know the URL. but i thought, perhaps there's something for system checks. thanks!
[09:42] <strk> inserting an SD card in the SD card slot reader doesn't trigger *any* message printed from `journalctl -xf`, does it mean the hardware is broken ?
[09:44] <strk> ok, embarassingly.... I did NOT insert an SD card, just an (empty) adaptor :')
[10:08] <ubuntutr> ji
[10:08] <ubuntutr> hi
[10:08] <ubuntutr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YJd7kbfw8F/
[10:08] <ubuntutr> i have this problem
[10:09] <VMGuy23[m]> hello ubuntutr, I'm just looking at the problem now.
[10:11] <VMGuy23[m]> it looks like a MySQL problem. it seems that mySQL can't open that .cf file. Check the .cf file for errors, or if you used a generator, regenerate it.
[10:19] <ubuntutr> VMGuy23[m] thank you
[10:21] <ubuntutr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bFKMYBvPqW/
[10:21] <ubuntutr> what should I do?
[10:23] <VMGuy23[m]> Does e_forwardings exist?
[10:23] <ubuntutr> i use Cloudflare
[10:27] <VMGuy23[m]> I don't know too much about MySQL. See if you can find a channel for it (#mysql or ##mysql might work) or hopefully someone else can help soon if your problem isn't solved.
[10:56] <cuttiepie> Hi
[10:56] <cuttiepie> What I just see is _ when I boot ubuntu . Like what's going on?
[11:01] <cuttiepie> Ok this is what happened : Power outrage while system was in update from 18 to 20.04. 75% process completed probably and then when system was turned on again for completing the process of upgradation, there was kernel panic error : unable to mount vfs root fs on unknown block (0,0). I followed this :
[11:01] <cuttiepie> https://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-0 to solve it but after that there is just one underscore that appears on screen .
[11:02] <Deano59> re-install cuttiepie, you messed up. :)
[11:03] <cuttiepie> reinstall ! How ?
[11:03] <Deano59> usb, disc, up-to-you. lol
[11:04] <cuttiepie> like there is one more option , i can go to recovery mode with same kernel version or t
[11:04] <cuttiepie> *other
[11:06] <cuttiepie> and then to root shell prompt. would you like to help me with that ?
[11:07] <Deano59> no.
[11:08] <cuttiepie> so rude
[11:09] <Deano59> rude? how?
[11:09] <cuttiepie> Ok sorry. Maybe d
[11:09] <cuttiepie> you dont have enough knowledge for that
[11:10] <Deano59> wait around, someone else might help.
[11:10] <Deano59> I'm bust eating doritos. lol
[11:10] <Deano59> busy*
[11:28] <cuttiepie> Anybody awake ??
[11:29] <wyoung> cuttiepie: Yes
[11:29] <cuttiepie> There was power outrage while system was in update from 18 to 20.04. 75% process completed probably and then when system was turned on again for completing the process of upgradation, there was kernel panic error : unable to mount vfs root fs on unknown block (0,0). I followed this :
[11:29] <cuttiepie> https://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-0 to solve it but after that there is just one underscore that appears on screen .
[11:31] <cuttiepie> initramfs has been generated though
[11:32] <cuttiepie> by following the above link
[11:33] <tatertots> the joys of upgrading
[11:41] <cuttiepie> please save my system. I would like to offer whateveer
[12:00] <nojjjj> can you install an tiling manager onto ubuntu vanilla? If dont, would that render the desktop manager inactive or remove/deactivate elements of the D.E?
[12:01] <nojjjj> *if done
[12:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:05] <Aavar> nojjjj: Yes to the first question.
[12:05] <nojjjj> ty
[12:07] <nojjjj> do you know the default tiling manager used by desktop, or doesnt ubuntu have one; the desktop manaager controls the windows tiles etc
[12:08] <nojjjj> all gud having a google and youtube watch
[12:10] <Aavar> nojjjj: I don't understand. Are you asking how to install a tiling manager? We know what it is :)
[12:13] <nojjjj> soz 4being unclear. i was asking if ubuntu's desktop manager has a name?
[12:14] <nojjjj> i would also like to know if a tiling manager is part of a desktop manager or if they are separate either/or things
[12:15] <BluesKaj> nojjjj, please don't use text speak
[12:16] <nojjjj> eg you either have a tiling manager or you have a desktop manager but not both? this im unsure about as well. text speak okay
[12:24] <nojjjj> BluesKaj, so about my question do can you help mate
[12:25] <BluesKaj> take a look at your package manager for tiling and read the info there, nojjjj
[12:34] <nojjjj> so apt-cache search tiling manager how do i get information about the package?
[12:35] <nojjjj> got it
[12:39] <BluesKaj> there are gui package managers like like synaptic etc
[12:40] <nojjjj> ty
[12:52] <cuttiepie> There was power outrage while system was in update from 18 to 20.04. 75% process completed probably and then when system was turned on again for completing the process of upgradation, there was kernel panic error : unable to mount vfs root fs on unknown block (0,0). I followed this :
[12:52] <cuttiepie> https://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-0 to solve it but after that there is just one underscore that appears on screen .
[12:53] <cuttiepie> help
[12:53] <Maik> maybe your hdd is corrupted due the poweroutage
[12:57] <VMGuy23[m]> This is why I have a laptop
[13:01] <BluesKaj> VMGuy23[m], that comment doesn't help
[13:02] <VMGuy23[m]> Yeah true
[13:04] <cuttiepie> my hdd is fine I think
[13:04] <cuttiepie> I can boot to advanced options for my given kernel
[13:05] <cuttiepie> and also to root commandline from that and can also access fs
[13:06] <cuttiepie> I need someone to help me either reinstall from there or recover from there .
[13:06] <EriC^^> cuttiepie: in advanced > recovery you can boot to a menu and run fsck on the fs, and also run a dpkg/apt consistency check
[13:11] <cuttiepie> for fsck, have to unmount root part but 'umount /dev/sda6' would say target is busy
[13:11] <cuttiepie> sda6 is /
[13:11] <EriC^^> cuttiepie: you have to run fsck first before you run any other menu options, as they can mount the fs and you want it still read-only
[13:16] <cuttiepie> ok ran fsck first. Says continuing will remount your / filesystem in r/w mode and other filesystem in fstab as well
[13:17] <cuttiepie> And continuing from there would induce e2fsck error : /dev/sda6 is mounted
[13:19] <EriC^^> odd, ok, try to run the dpkg/apt integrity check
[13:23] <cuttiepie> ok ran successful : set up of around 10 packages
[13:23] <DJones>  /w 20
[13:26] <cuttiepie> but i gave no errors so probably no broken packages
[13:26] <cuttiepie> *It
[13:28] <EriC^^> nice, try rebooting
[13:35] <cuttiepie> shows ' /dev/sda6 : clean xxx/xxx files xxxx/xxxx blocks' and then blinking cursor
[13:52] <Intelo> Hi
[13:53] <Maik> hi Intelo
[13:54] <Intelo> I want to install windows on drive W, ubuntu on drive U and make /home of ubuntu on drive H. I want to encrypt full disk of H. and also full dish of H. Is this doable?
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> !home
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning
[13:59] <oxek> How can I get a newer version of flatpak in ubuntu 18.04?
[13:59] <leftyfb> Intelo: linux does not recognize "drive U" or "drive W". Please read the link above about partitioning.
[14:00] <leftyfb> !flatpack | oxek
[14:00] <oxek> !flatpak
[14:00] <leftyfb> oxek: flatpack isn't supported here. Feel free to visit flatpack.org for support
[14:03] <zamba> is qemu and kvm the same?
[14:03] <Liowenex> No
[14:03] <zamba> or.. rather.. do they use the same kind of virtualization technique.. one in kernel and one in user space?
[14:03] <zamba> and is it easy to "convert" between them?
[14:04] <leftyfb> zamba: https://www.packetflow.co.uk/what-is-the-difference-between-qemu-and-kvm/
[14:04] <zamba> for instance.. if i start out with qemu and then "migrate" to kvm once i have scheduled downtime to turn it on in the bios settings?
[14:05] <zamba> kvm-ok says i have /dev/kvm and that i can use KVM acceleration
[14:06] <zamba> if i do virsh version it says: Running hypervisor: QEMU 2.11.1
[14:06] <zamba> does this mean that it can run better if i actually use kvm directly?
[14:07] <zamba> someone suggested typing ps xa | grep "[b]in/kvm", but that returns nothing
[14:07] <leftyfb> zamba: what version of ubuntu?
[14:08] <zamba> 18.04.3
[14:09] <leftyfb> zamba: you know you are behind in updates right?
[14:09] <zamba> https://dpaste.org/afrS
[14:10] <zamba> yeah, upgrading it as we speak
[14:10] <zamba> not the kernel, though.. have to schedule a reboot for that
[14:11] <zamba> but are these virtual machines running in user or kernel space?
[14:12] <leftyfb> zamba: did you read the article I gave you?
[14:13] <leftyfb> zamba: to answer your question, I think you can convert qemu vm's to kvm. https://rtcamp.com/tutorials/kvm/convert-qcow2-to-raw-format/   Not sure if more is needed. You'll have to research.
[14:15] <cuttiepie> would you look at this : https://askubuntu.com/questions/297080/ubuntu-open-to-black-screen-with-blinking-underscore-character-after-release-upg
[14:17] <chris64> Hi everyone. I am looking into ebpf based tracing at the moment and noticed that CONFIG_KPROBE_EVENTS and CONFIG_UPROBE_EVENTS are not enabled. As far as I understood these are compile time constants, and as such cannot be enabled as boot parameters. Do you know if Ubuntu provides another pre-build kernel with them enabled? Or is there likely another reason?
[14:18] <Intelo> lotuspsychje:  I completely know what is home. I am talking about setting up home at the time of installation of ubuntu.  leftyfb I know there is no drive U/H/W. I just named those to give examples.
[14:19] <cuttiepie> Would anybody dare to seriously look at my problem ?
[14:19] <cuttiepie> or not
[14:29] <ledeni> cuttiepie: if you have livedvd iso on usb stick boot up live chroot your system back up your files that is best option for you
[14:32] <Intelo> I want to install windows on drive W, ubuntu on drive U and make /home of ubuntu on drive H. I want to encrypt full disk of H. and also full dish of H.  H/W/U are just imaginary names. I  have been using linux since years. I just want to know if this is possible?
[14:33] <EriC^^> full dish of H?
[14:37] <chris64> Intelo: yes, you should be able to use W for windows only and the two others U and H for Ubuntu
[14:37] <chris64> Intelo: just decide where the boot manager should reside
[15:00] <Intelo> EriC^^: Correct. H will but full disk for /home
[15:03] <Intelo> chris64: understood. But I have some concerns. If /home is on drive H and ubuntu is on U, a) when ubuntu is booted, how it will find its home (which itself is encrypted as full drive)? b) how to encrypt the /home in the first place? The ubuntu setup tells about encrypting / drive fulldisk (I have done it)
[15:05] <Intelo> leftyfb:  lotuspsychje  EriC^^  FYI ^
[15:09] <BluesKaj> cuttiepie, could be nomodeset
[15:10] <chris64> Intelo: The drives and their mapping is configured in /etc/fstab as far as I know
[15:10] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | cuttiepie
[15:10] <chris64> Intelo: and the boot loader, for example grub, is configured to boot linux from U (or more specific from a partition on U)
[15:16] <chris64> Intelo: I guess you cannot do much wrong if you do the Ubuntu setup _while_ the Windows disk is disconnected
[15:16] <chris64> Intelo: then afterwards reconnect the Windows disk and let grub2 discover Windows so that it's added to the boot menu
[15:17] <kriss332> I have a .deb package (from a vendor) which worked on my older linux. But now I installed mint 20 . The package gets installed but doesn't work. Is there a backward compatibility method to install it ?
[15:18] <kostkon> !mint
[15:18] <kriss332> ok , thanks ubottu
[15:42] <Intelo> chris64: even if windows disk is connected, things will go same and ubuntu grub will discover things while isntalling ubuntu. Maybe my major concern is a)b) above
[15:45] <chris64> Intelo: ok
[16:24] <Peanut> Hi, does anyone have experiencing with adding a small movie to a LaTeX Beamer presentation? The resulting pdf file crashes Okular with the message 'ase read the channel topic. This channel is logged at irclogs.ubuntu
[16:24] <Peanut> Oops, cut&paste error!
[16:24] <Peanut> Hi, does anyone have experiencing with adding a small movie to a LaTeX Beamer presentation? The resulting pdf file crashes Okular with the message 'vdpau_avcodec generic error: Xlib is required for VDPAU'
[16:48] <Intelo> chris64: so do you know about a,b?
[17:03] <chris64> Intelo: what is a and b again? From my experience configuring full disk encryption on two drives is no problem with graphical installers of Ubuntu. And you said yourself that the presence of a Windows disk does not complicate the setup at all
[17:04] <chris64> Intelo: I guess you know that step in the setup where it asks you which drives you want to format and which path they're supposed to be mounted on
[17:06] <chris64> Intelo: but I only did that half a dozen times, so maybe I don't know enough about special configurations. Maybe it's indeed wise to ask a few hours later again, when there's maybe more activity due to timezones or tomorrow during weekday
[17:10] <Intelo> ok chris64 what i was thinking that if I choose 'full disk encryption' and use /home mount path to some other disk. will it encrypt both disks?
[17:11] <chris64> Intelo: I won't if you don't select full disk encryption for the other disk as well
[17:12] <Intelo> I see
[17:12] <chris64> Intelo: did you work with LVM2 in the past?
[17:13] <chris64> Intelo: but I think that LUKS-based full disk encryption should be fine with opening two encrypted disks at boot time
[17:16] <RoseBus> for outgoing smtp connection i should not need to allow 465/tcp right?
[17:16] <RoseBus> only for incoming
[17:18] <tomreyn> chris64: about your kernel configuration question, head straight over to #ubuntu-kernel, re-ask it there, and bring much patience along. from whati can tell, all pre-built kernel images for the same release and arch use the same configurations, but i'm not 100% sure there. i imagine -oem kernels *may* differ a little (where needed to provide fuinctionality needed by oem patches).
[17:18] <tomreyn> with multiple luks containers needed to boot, you'll just get multiple passphrase prompts (if you're using passphrases) by default. they may look differently, depending on when prompting occurs, which dpeends on the file systems they contain.
[17:19] <tomreyn> personally, i'd be (positively) surprised if ubiquity could setup more than a single disk with luks over lvm at install time. but what i learnt about complex installation scenarios is: don't do them, if you don't strictly have to. i.e. anything you can do post install, do it then.
[17:19] <tomreyn> this may not apply to subiquity (server installer) anymore, it's actually capable of more complex scripted setups nowadays.
[17:19] <tomreyn> and from what i read the other day, ubiquity is going to be replaced sooner or later.
[17:22] <Intelo> chris64: I either encrypted full disk or used luks manual password but I don't know how both will be unencrypted at boot time
[17:24] <tomreyn> RoseBus: thats right. 465 is (most common use case) an smtp users' email client authenticating against their isp to send mail, and doing so over an SSL encrypted transport, without STARTTLS (so this is the old SSL-only port approach)
[18:31] <supremekai> Hello guys, can I clean the swap memory file?
[18:32] <supremekai> It's getting bigger, what will happen if I do so?
[18:32] <MikeRL> Anyone know the difference between the Ubuntu daily ISOs vs the canary ISOs? I know what the daily ones are.
[18:54] <Maik> supremekai: sudo swapoff -a and then sudo swapon -a
[18:55] <Maik> MikeRL: been wondering about that too, didn't find or get an answer anywhere
[19:01] <MikeRL> Maik, If I had to guess it's possibly less stable. There is an ubuntu canary ppa on Launchpad that seems to be maintained.
[19:01] <MikeRL> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/canary-image
[19:05] <Maik> MikeRL: doesn't seem to be maintained to me since 2020
[19:20] <dtux> I have mounted an NFS share on /foo successfully, but the directory is empty on the client side (even after unmounting and remounting)... anyone know how to debug this?
[19:22] <pecorade> dtux, check the permission list of the folder.
[19:27] <dtux> the fs perms look fine on the server side afaict
[19:27] <dtux> (this has worked before, not sure what changed)
[19:28] <where_> can we include Solus into ubuntus grub-update?
[19:28] <where_> and .cfg
[19:29] <tomreyn> dtux: you will need to inspect system logs on server and client. and for more help, discuss how the export is configured, whats running on server and client, which ubuntu version you're using, which mount options you are using.
[19:30] <tomreyn> where_: you can configure ubuntu's grub to add additional fixed or templated menu targets
[19:31] <tomreyn> read /etc/grub.d/README , see /etc/grub.d/*_custom for potential examples
[19:32] <where_> I know, I tried
[19:32] <tomreyn> thats for templated additions
[19:32] <tomreyn> for fixed ones, you can use /boot/grub/custom.cfg
[19:34] <where_> is root=UUID and so on for the booted system root or the kernel partition?
[19:37] <tomreyn> root= points ot the next accessible layer (from grubs' perspective) towards the /boot file system
[19:38] <tomreyn> if you have a directly accessible /boot file system, point ot that. if you have no separate /boot but /boot is part of / then point to that instead
[19:40] <EriC^^> isnt root for the main fs, not the boot partition?
[19:41] <EriC^^> where_: root=UUID in the kernel line is for the root fs
[19:41] <EriC^^> aka "/"
[19:42] <where_> ok
[19:42] <EriC^^> do you have os-prober installed?
[19:43] <where_> yes
[19:43] <EriC^^> ok
[19:44] <where_> it is detected, but not put into the grub.cfg
[19:47] <EriC^^> where_: if you're using uefi this might help, https://www.linux.org/threads/solus-3-installs-fine-shows-in-update-grub-but-not-on-grub-menu.16114/
[19:49] <tomreyn> EriC^^: on this system i checked, the main 'Ubuntu' menu entry has "set root='mduuid/SOME-MD-UUID-HERE', then the IF statement for feature_platform_search_hint=y, based on which it then re-sets root= using a "search" (grub) command, pointing it to the actual file system with an additional hint on the mduuid. in the "linux" line, it does indeed pass root= pointing to the root file system uuid, though. so i guess you'Re right.
[19:54] <EriC^^> i see tomreyn, thanks
[20:10] <gladoscc> Hi, I have an ubuntu server. I did a reboot (nothing else) and I am unable to boot with the latest kernel. I get a kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs.
[20:10] <gladoscc> This happens with the latest kernel installed, 5.4.0-70-generic
[20:10] <gladoscc> I am able to boot using 5.4.0-67-generic.
[20:11] <gladoscc> How can I fix my system?
[20:12] <VMGuy23> In GRUB, select More options for Ubuntu and select an older kernel. You can then use your system from there.
[20:12] <gladoscc> VMGuy23: Thanks, yes, I can use my system from there. But how can I fix it so I can use the latest kernel?
[20:13] <leftyfb> gladoscc: what version of ubuntu?
[20:13] <jeremy31> gladoscc: You should think about filing a bug report
[20:13] <VMGuy23> I don't know. Check for an update that might fix the issue and install it.
[20:13] <gladoscc> ubuntu 20.04.01 LTS.
[20:13] <leftyfb> jeremy31: they're probably just missing the kernel modules for something important
[20:13] <gladoscc> i have a mdadm RAID array, I am probably missing the modules for that.
[20:13] <gladoscc> however, i did NOT update ubuntu?
[20:14] <gladoscc> I didn't update anything.
[20:14] <gladoscc> I just tried to reboot.
[20:14] <leftyfb> gladoscc: bot to your previous kernel and install linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04
[20:14] <paolop> hello. plz help me! Every time I have to configure simoultanous output from two audio devices is a PITA. I installed paprefs and enabled "add virtual output device for simoultaneous output on all local sound cards". Then I set "simoultaneous output" in sound preferences. But I can't hear anything.
[20:14] <gladoscc> leftyfb: thank you, will try.
[20:15] <jeremy31> gladoscc: can you post URL for>  dpkg -l | grep  5.4.0-70-generic | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:15] <gladoscc> jeremy31: https://termbin.com/5xa5
[20:15] <leftyfb> ok, guess that theory is out the window :)
[20:16] <leftyfb> but maybe the 5.8 kernel might fix it
[20:16] <jeremy31> gladoscc: That seems correct
[20:16] <ptah> what is the connection with ipv6 ipv4 and ethernet wired network vs wifi ?
[20:16] <ptah> ipv6 is better with wifi?
[20:17] <ptah> and ipv4 with ethernet wired?
[20:17] <jeremy31> ptah: I think works the same for both
[20:17] <gladoscc> I only have 51MB free in my /boot -- let's hope that's enough space to install
[20:17] <gladoscc> (already purged all kernels but the latest and what I am recovering with).
[20:17] <ptah> jeremy31 ok
[20:17] <jeremy31> gladoscc: File a bug report if you can on  5.4.0-70-generic
[20:17] <gladoscc> cannot install the latest
[20:17] <gladoscc> Error 24 : Write error : cannot write compressed block
[20:17] <gladoscc> E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 lz4 -9 -l 24
[20:17] <gladoscc> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-5.8.0-48-generic with 1.
[20:18] <gladoscc> is this a hardware error? could my RAID array be having issues?
[20:18] <leftyfb> gladoscc: disk space
[20:18] <leftyfb> gladoscc: you either have other packages still left to be removed or you have WAY too small of a /boot partition
[20:18] <gladoscc> my boot partition is 269M
[20:18] <gladoscc> . /dev/md0p1      269M  213M   37M  86% /boot
[20:19] <leftyfb> that's pretty small but should be enough with a well maintained system
[20:19] <gladoscc> can I remove 70? the one that won't boot?
[20:19] <gladoscc> I am recovering in 67.
[20:19] <leftyfb> gladoscc: ls -l /boot/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:20] <gladoscc> https://termbin.com/cxc8
[20:20] <jeremy31> The initrd for the kernel takes up more space in /boot than you have left
[20:20] <leftyfb> gladoscc: try removing 70
[20:20] <leftyfb> purging*
[20:21] <gladoscc> cool, purged
[20:21] <gladoscc> do I need to clean up the 5.8?
[20:21] <gladoscc> that seems partially installed?
[20:21] <gladoscc> or just another attempt at 'apt install linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04' ?
[20:21] <leftyfb> gladoscc: sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04
[20:23] <gladoscc> cool, that worked
[20:23] <gladoscc> initrd.img, vmlinuz all pointing to 5.8.0-48
[20:23] <gladoscc> reboot?
[20:24] <leftyfb> gladoscc: yep
[20:26] <gladoscc> fixed. thank you very much leftyfb and jeremy31.
[20:26] <gladoscc> have to say, I wonder how this happened
[20:26] <gladoscc> i did NOT do a distro upgrade or package upgrade or anything like that
[20:26] <leftyfb> gladoscc: possible bug with the 5.4.0-70 kernel. If you have the time to do some forensics and to revert to the broken kernel, you should file a bug
[20:28] <gladoscc> happy to dig into it and file a bug report, any pointers for what forensics would be helpful?
[20:28] <leftyfb> !bug | gladoscc
[20:28] <leftyfb> gladoscc: mainly, getting to a point where you can get both kernels installed and follow the above
[20:30] <gladoscc> installed, not necessarily running right?
[20:30] <gladoscc> cuz I can only run the 5.8 kernel, i don't think there is anything I can do in 5.4.0-70
[20:31] <leftyfb> gladoscc: well, obviously the 5.8 kernel running, but preferably with the 5.4.0-70 not working properly so you can grab data and file the bug
[20:31] <leftyfb> gladoscc: just make sure you can reproduce the issue before filing the bug
[20:32] <jeremy31> It might be a waste of time if the error occurs too early and no relevant info can be saved to disk
[20:32] <gladoscc> i reliably cannot boot using 5.4.0-70.   I do not know what conditions caused me to get into this state, so I don't know how to reproduce the "cause".
[20:33] <leftyfb> jeremy31: wouldn't just filing a bug against the package itself with a small writeup be beneficial?
[20:33] <jeremy31> leftyfb: It could be
[20:33] <gladoscc> pretty weird cause I'm using RAID0 on enterprise HDDs with ECC memory, so it's unlikely that it's a random bitflip
[20:33] <gladoscc> s/HDDs/SSDs
[20:35] <jeremy31> gladoscc: Include all the hardware info you can
[20:43] <gladoscc> ok yep, filed a bug report with all the info I know https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1923376
[20:44] <gladoscc> i'll do further troubleshooting if anyone requests it in the ticket, but at least, maybe it helps the next person who encounters this issue.
[20:44] <jeremy31> gladoscc: see if https://askubuntu.com/a/1218004 helps any
[20:45] <jeremy31> Might have to rebuild the initramfs for 5.4.0-70 kernel if it is still there
[20:46] <jeremy31> sudo update-initramfs -u -k 5.4.0-70-generic
[20:46] <gladoscc> yep im gonna get some sleep first, tomorrow ill reinstall 70
[20:46] <gladoscc> and see if that fixes it
[20:46] <gladoscc> thanks again
[21:04] <tomreyn> jeremy31: i'm wondering whether the above is an instance of grub-embedded (classic) bios booting (which was never supported/recommended anyways) no longer working. also, user space was outadted on this system, it should have reported 20.04.2, not 20.04.1.
[21:08] <jeremy31> tomreyn: anything is possible
[21:24] <chris64> Intelo: mh, I see. When searching the web I found this QA post and answers: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/392284/using-a-single-passphrase-to-unlock-multiple-encrypted-disks-at-boot Maybe the decrypt_keyctl tool mentioned there can help. I don't know whether the situation changed since 2017
[21:24] <chris64> Intelo: systemd seems to support unlocking multiple drives with the same passphrase: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/535161/22596
[21:26] <wiscii> hi, i seem to have gotten into a stale-mate position with dpkg
[21:26] <chris64> Intelo: I'm sorry that I cannot help more at the moment. Please try to ask the question again at a later time, to find someone else with more knowledge. I've to leave now. Good luck!
[21:27] <wiscii> i was trying to install codeblocks but i had a dep which was not met now i have two packages which depend on each other which i can't remove
[21:28] <wiscii> codeblocks-wxcontrib-dev depends on codeblocks-wxcontrib-headers (= 20.03); however:
[21:28] <wiscii>   Package codeblocks-wxcontrib-headers is to be removed.
[21:28] <wiscii> apt does not want to resolve it either
[21:30] <wiscii> Debian 'dpkg' package management program version 1.19.7 (amd64).
[21:32] <Bashing-om> !info codeblocks-wxcontrib-dev focal | wiscii
[21:33] <wiscii> erm .. i think i know what you mean .. but i'm still stuck
[21:33] <Bashing-om> wiscii:^^  As apt is unaware of the package - begs the question of where you got it and then is that not a problem for the maintainer to address ?
[21:34] <wiscii> i got it from codeblocks website
[21:35] <Bashing-om> wiscii: I do suggest that you open a dialog with codeblocks to find the root of the issue.
[21:38] <wiscii> cheerz
[21:40] <wiscii> luckily i can rtm
[21:41] <johnfg> Hi folks.
[21:41] <Bashing-om> wiscii: :D - reading is good
[21:42] <johnfg> I've got tomboy-ng .27 QT5 installed.  It shows this from an apt search:
[21:43] <johnfg> tomboy-ng/now 0.27 amd64 [installed,local]
[21:43] <johnfg> I'd like to install v. 32, but it's not available for an apt update.
[21:44] <johnfg> Does the local signify that I installed it from a download?
[21:45] <Bashing-om> johnfg: Not a focal package (tomboy-ng) - what shows ' apt policy tomboy-ng ' for the origination ?
[21:46] <johnfg> It's not snap I guess, as snap find tomboy-ng returns nothing.
[21:46] <johnfg> Bashing-om: I'll look.
[21:47] <johnfg> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wCFdxrfbnv/
[21:53] <Bashing-om> johnfg: Yuk - seems too that 'dpkg' is not tracking the package - must be a thrid party fetch. Might see if there are souces in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ files.
[21:53] <Bashing-om> sources*
[21:54] <johnfg> I'll do that too.
[21:56] <johnfg> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/36sGZqTdJ3/ I got the update, and I've got this now.  thanks for helping me think through it.
[21:58] <ryan_foo> hi all. does anyone know what the focal-updates apt repos are?
[21:58] <Bashing-om> johnfg: \o/
[21:59] <Bashing-om> ryan_foo: many here relate with the repo - what is the real question ?
[21:59] <ryan_foo> ok. good point..
[22:00] <ryan_foo> $ cat /etc/issue
[22:00] <ryan_foo> Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS \n \l
[22:00] <ryan_foo> $sudo apt-get install -y zlib1g-dev
[22:00] <ryan_foo> Reading package lists... Done
[22:00] <ryan_foo> Building dependency tree
[22:00] <ryan_foo> Reading state information... Done
[22:00] <Bashing-om> !paste | ryan_foo
[22:01] <Bashing-om> ryan_foo: ^^ when you get UN-quieted :D
[22:01] <ryan_foo> :)
[22:01] <ryan_foo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tT4ZGG7H4g/
[22:01] <ryan_foo> So as you see Im trying to install zlib1g-dev.
[22:02] <ryan_foo> but apt says "sorry i have 1:1.2.11.dfsg-2ubuntu1.2 installed and you need  same1.1"
[22:03] <Bashing-om> ryan_foo: "Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS" indicates the saystem is way out of date. what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' ?
[22:03] <Bashing-om> system*
[22:04] <ryan_foo> apt update looks fine. let me try full-upgrade
[22:05] <Bashing-om> ryan_foo: "sysop@2004x-c:~$ lsb_release -a >> Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS " .
[22:08] <ryan_foo> im not sure a full upgrade is going to update my sources.list !
[22:09] <Bashing-om> ryan_foo: ?? - update reads the list and does not affect said list .
[22:10] <ryan_foo> If you look at this link https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/zlib1g-dev, the version I want to pick up is in focal-updates.
[22:10] <Bashing-om> !full-upgrade | ryan_foo
[22:10] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: focal-updates should be enabled by default
[22:11] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: 1:1.2.11.dfsg-2ubuntu1.2 is the latest version available in the ubuntu 20.04 repos
[22:11] <ryan_foo> ah its commented out .
[22:11] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: what is your actual issue?
[22:12] <ryan_foo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tT4ZGG7H4g/
[22:12] <tomreyn> your actual issue seems to be that you chose to disable the focal-updates repository. which you should not.
[22:12] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: did you run the full-upgrade?
[22:15] <ryan_foo> hmm. uncommented focal-update and did a update + full-upgrade. still broken...
[22:15] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade  # run this first
[22:16] <ryan_foo> done
[22:16] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: apt-cache policy zlib1g-dev | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:18] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: also: lsb_release -d | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:18] <tomreyn> grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:19] <leftyfb> tomreyn: ooo, that's a nice one
[22:19] <tomreyn> :) i'm not sure it actually catches everything, but i hope it does
[22:21] <leftyfb> ryan_foo: ?
[22:48] <ryan_foo> ok, so I uncommented out the focal-updates repos in the apt/sources.list , did the update + full-upgrade and then my package installed. thanks for your assistance all!
[22:50] <ryan_foo> Here are the repos .. in case it helps anyone https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TjsYt5hRvb/
[23:18] <Intelo> chrisml: thanks, it was greate
[23:59] <gnUser> Does anyone know how to enable thumb detection/rejection on Ubuntu 20.04?