[14:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> Mauro Gaspari: Yeah, there's a good chance there's a problem with the theme. I might upload the latest version as a bugfix (materia-kde).
[14:28] <Eickmeyer[m]> Mauro Gaspari: Actually, there's nothing I can do about that one. Do me a favor and file a bug with https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/materia-kde showing them that picture.
[15:08] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: does it make sense to be able to change the direction of a bridge after it is created?
[15:08]  * OvenWerks is thinking outloud
[15:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> Wow, loaded question. What would be the purpose of that?
[15:10] <OvenWerks> I originally added this so I could use an "add bridge" button and the direction could be chosen later... but I have since changed the add bridge button to a drop down that allows select either input or output create.
[15:10] <OvenWerks> So I guess I can now change the direction drop down to a label
[15:11] <OvenWerks> otherwise I need to be able to remove the old bridge and create a new one of the proper direction
[15:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> I see. Yeah, probably best to have a place for bridges that go one direction and bridges that go the other direction.
[15:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> So as to not confuse.
[15:12] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: the gui for pulse bridges no longer has two tabs (one in and the other out) but just one that lists all bridges.
[15:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ah, I see. Still not a bad idea.
[15:14] <OvenWerks> But now that the user can create with direction in the first place, I think all I need is a label showing the bridge direction.
[16:09] <MauroGaspari[m]> <Eickmeyer[m] "Mauro Gaspari: Actually, there's"> I just verified this on a freshly installed VM just to be 100% sure there was no theme messing around from my part. Confirmed the same issue. Sending a bug report.
[16:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> Awesome, Mauro Gaspari . Thanks!
[16:14] <MauroGaspari[m]> <Eickmeyer[m] "Awesome, Mauro Gaspari . Thanks!"> Done: https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/materia-kde/issues/113
[16:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> Mauro Gaspari: Just confirmed with my findings as well.
 Eickmeyer[m]: You might get a prod from the Canonical Community Rep.
[16:28] <Eickmeyer[m]> teward: From Monica? She prodded me already. :)
[16:28] <teward> yep
[16:28] <teward> well i told her to ;)
[16:28] <teward> for Studio anyways.
[16:28] <Eickmeyer[m]> :P
[16:28] <teward> had her prod others for Lubuntu
[16:28] <teward> and Server is its own group xD
[16:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> Right.
[18:49] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I am posting a set of images you comment: https://i.imgur.com/mdBBiAF.png
[18:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Wow! Serious improvement with the tabs on the right over there.
[18:50] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: https://i.imgur.com/pPERCh4.png
[18:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> Sorry, controls on the left.
[18:51] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: https://i.imgur.com/5OVVAnL.png
[18:51] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: https://i.imgur.com/PECtpCY.png
[18:52] <OvenWerks> https://i.imgur.com/HrHSavZ.png
[18:53] <Eickmeyer[m]> I like it. Looks like a huge improvement.
[18:53] <OvenWerks> MauroGaspari[m]: ^^ comments welcome
[18:53]  * Eickmeyer[m] was just about to ping Mauro... hehe
[18:53] <OvenWerks> I am guessing I could move the exit and help buttons to the left as well
[18:53] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I think I need to reorder them as well
[18:53] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: I think some spacing around the Jack Status and DSP would be a good idea.
[18:54] <OvenWerks> the three jack buttons followed by status followed by conveience buttons with help and exit under. Maybe use separators for the htree groups.
[18:54] <OvenWerks> yes that needs a tweak.
[18:57] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: right now, master settings determines the width. I think it would be possible to rearange for narrower (and higher?)
[19:05] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Yeah, just needs some tweaking there, but other than that it looks pretty good.
[19:15] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: https://i.imgur.com/z1juMkl.png
[19:15] <OvenWerks> new left side spacing
[19:20] <Eickmeyer[m]> Oh, not bad, but I'd space the line between the DSP and the shortcuts more.
[19:25] <OvenWerks> https://i.imgur.com/rrDxo6e.png
[19:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: That looks perfect.
[19:33] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I could move xruns to a lower line
[19:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: That's a great idea, and you have the room.
[19:57] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]:  should I do this? https://i.imgur.com/dSEdU0e.png
[19:58] <OvenWerks> (then move the left side to the bottom)
[19:58] <Eickmeyer[m]> I feel like it would read better if the Jack status and DSP were left-justified, OvenWerks .
[19:58] <Eickmeyer[m]> But I'm starting to head into the "Pedantic" zone. hehe
[19:59] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: does status need the icon? It kinda gets in the way of left just
[20:00] <Eickmeyer[m]> If you moved it to the right of "Running", it might be fine.
[20:06] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: https://i.imgur.com/o45WXLz.png
[20:06] <Eickmeyer[m]> Oh yeah, actually, that looks WAY better. :)
[20:07] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: considering I use no other icon anywhere... 
[20:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah, that's true, and it was really just a unicode character anyhow.
[20:09] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: this moves the "menu/toolbar" down: https://i.imgur.com/7SFbt4z.png
[20:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Better, but is there any way you can space the toolbar away from the other window items, like a space to the right of them?
[20:11] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: another possibility: https://i.imgur.com/ZgTFMHh.png
[20:11] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I am not sure what you mean
[20:12] <OvenWerks> Oh hang on I think I do.
[20:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> The tabbed area and the control buttons (menu/status) seems a bit too close together. Also, yes, workflow-wise, the buttons on the right would be better.
[20:15] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: https://i.imgur.com/2ERxJ1d.png
[20:15] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Looks perfect!
[20:16] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: do I leave the separator at the bottom? Think I will remove that
[20:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ha! yeah, there's a separator there. :)
[20:19] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: one more https://i.imgur.com/x6XBVGV.png
[20:19] <Eickmeyer[m]> That's looking nice and clean.
[20:21] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I think that is my 2.2 GUI then
[20:21] <OvenWerks> now to get all of it working :P
[20:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> Hehe, that's always the challenge.
[20:23] <OvenWerks> I think most of it does... being able to choose the name for a zizta bridge is still only half baked.
[20:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> That's fair. Still, it's a nice feature. Not sure how many are using it.
[21:07] <MauroGaspari[m]> <OvenWerks "Mauro Gaspari: ^^ comments welco"> That looks really nice.
[21:10] <MauroGaspari[m]> OvenWerks speaking of jack bridge, i found out that telegram client completely ignores my audio settings of US. Blasts through my speakers ar super high volume no matter what i do with my audio leves of my bridge. As far as I know telegram is the only one i found doing that. Any idea how to deal with such problem?
[21:13] <OvenWerks> telegram is using what interface? if telegram is acting as a jack client... then it needs to go through a mixer like jackmixer. though alsa mixer shouold be able to deal with it to. If you are using pulse then pavucontrol should work. I guess that is like saying I need more info
[21:14] <OvenWerks> MauroGaspari[m]: does jack_lsp show any ports that look like telegram?
[21:15] <OvenWerks> MauroGaspari[m]: does pavucontrol show telegram as a playback?
[21:18] <MauroGaspari[m]> <OvenWerks "telegram is using what interface"> Ok, I am just using standard settings of US with pulse bridge, and just a couple of filters in the input via Carla patchbay. It works fine for everything i run on my computer. The only rebel app seems to be telegram and i seem to fail to find out how to tweak that apps audio settings. How strange and interesting.  Let me find a bit more about why that is and
[21:18] <MauroGaspari[m]> if it uses alsa directly.
[21:19] <MauroGaspari[m]> I will get back to you later wirh more details.
[21:19] <MauroGaspari[m]> Thanks! 🤩🥳
[21:19] <MauroGaspari[m]> * I will get back to you later with more details.
[21:20] <Eickmeyer[m]> Telegram should just talk to Pulse, it has no Jack interface.