 @klaartje_b [For some reason, even after a factory reset, it asks for a previous unlock patte …], did you set that before? … what steps have you done already?
 @Javacookies [did you set that before? … what steps have you done already?], No. It was a refurb. It may not have been fully cleaned before we got it.  … We have not managed to do anything to the tablet, we are stuck on fully booting to Android in order to set it in developer mode.
 have you ever logged into it?
 I mean on Android
 if not, it may be a problem … i remember the time when we have a samsung tablet that has a passcode too and we can't log in or factory reset. I had to look for some work around or tricks to bypass the security 😅
 oh wait, no it was actually looking for the previous google account which we didn't have
 No. Never logged into it. We do not have the old details to use anyway.
 So that's a similar situation.
 *shakes fist in the general direction of Google*
 ohh, that could be bad news
 can you still contact the prevuios owner?
 I don't think so but worth a try.
[08:42] <ubptgbot> teger68 was added by: teger68
 @TronFortyTwo [How do you sync lists between devices in talaan?🤩], You could probably try the Syncthing app for that. I successfully keep my list of reading material in SturmReader synced up to all my devices.
 @klaartje_b [I don't think so but worth a try.], Sounds stupid I know but does deleting the earlier account in Android settings have any effect?
 @Stereofont [Sounds stupid I know but does deleting the earlier account in Android settings h …], I wouldn't know, we can't get in to do that.
 @ArubIslander [You could probably try the Syncthing app for that. I successfully keep my list o …], Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out!
 @ArubIslander [You could probably try the Syncthing app for that. I successfully keep my list o …], A very crude workaround for small stuff would be to use the note to self option in Axolotl
 The tablet seller is a reseller and does not have the old login details. We'll have to hack our way in.
 @Stereofont [A very crude workaround for small stuff would be to use the note to self option …], I use Teleports for that, it's crude but WORKS SO WELL.
 @klaartje_b [I wouldn't know, we can't get in to do that.], Oh my. That is where SPflashtool comes in. It zaps the device while it is turned off
 can you get your tablet into fastboot mode?
 It does state 'fastboot mode' on the screen in some situations.
 do you know if you can unlock the bootloader of the tablet?
 I'm not sure how, so I don't know whether.
 I'm new to all of this.
 can you still return that tablet to the seller?
 @NotKit [can you still return that tablet to the seller?], That is probably a no.
 if you have the device in fastboot mode, and have fastboot installed on your desk/laptop, and the device connected through usb cable, running 'fastboot oem unlock' will tell you if you can
 not being to login into Android seems like a good enough reason
 @rogieroudshoorn [if you have the device in fastboot mode, and have fastboot installed on your des …], This is a nice and simple instruction. Thank you!
 you'll need to be able to unlock the bootloader - installing another OS will be impossible
 @rogieroudshoorn [if you have the device in fastboot mode, and have fastboot installed on your des …], it doesn't work this way anymore for newer devices
 oooh, i'm being old again
 to unlock bootloader, you first need to enable OEM unlocking in developer settings in Android
 then `fastboot flashing unlock`
 @NotKit [not being to login into Android seems like a good enough reason], It is, but ebay and international sellers... it's not always that straightforward.
 @NotKit [to unlock bootloader, you first need to enable OEM unlocking in developer settin …], But he can't get into Android 🤔
 I just wonder if PayPal dispute time has ran out
 It's a perfect catch-22. Thank you, Google.
 I don't think it was PayPalled, and it's been here for a while, but I'll ask.
 @klaartje_b [I use Teleports for that, it's crude but WORKS SO WELL.], I like that Syncthing does it in the background. I set it up so that the devices don't sync directly, but sync to a server (an old acer netbook) which then syncs to all devices registered with it.
 the bypass method i can think of is erasing frp partition through SP FlashTool
 but then it may still not allow bootloader unlock as Android seems to do online check before enabling that option in developer settings
 @NotKit [the bypass method i can think of is erasing frp partition through SP FlashTool], Very much worth a try, we may be trying that tonight.
 @NotKit [but then it may still not allow bootloader unlock as Android seems to do online …], 😮
 @NotKit [but then it may still not allow bootloader unlock as Android seems to do online …], bruh google moment
[09:24] <ubptgbot> AP_XD was added by: AP_XD
 the seller should have checked the device he/she's selling 😅 … you have a valid reason to return but having it for a long time may invalidate that....
[10:09] <ubptgbot> Antonino was added by: Antonino
 @Javacookies [the seller should have checked the device he/she's selling 😅 … you have a valid r …], You're not wrong, they should.
[14:59] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> Hi all, I installed UT on Xiaomi Mi A2. Should I fastboot oem lock or is that not possible after installation?
[15:02] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> I mean, when I lock it, it doesnt revert to android? (sorry for the newbie questions)
 I would not recommend locking the bootloader again.
 On some devices, it will wipe the data partition. That could destroy your Ubuntu Touch installation. If the implementation of fastboot is faulty, it will be impossible to unlock it again.
 @Jan Dierickx [Hi all, I installed UT on Xiaomi Mi A2. Should I fastboot oem lock or is that no …], it's not possible, unless you reflash stock Xiaomi firmware
 if you relock having UT installed, it will render device unbootable until reflashed with stock
[15:04] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> Ah ok, thx for the answers. It is just that i get a wqrning when i startup the phone everytime and i wondered if this warning is also on other devices (especially preinstalled like volla)
[15:05] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> Edit: when powering on. Not areboot.
 that warning seems to be on most newer devices. newer = ~2015
 Never seen it on OpO, so that seems to fit.
 on Volla Phone we can change bootloader source code to skip that warning, but not possible with retail devices reflashed to UT, unfortunately
[15:12] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> So there is no actual risk as mentioned in the warning then? Unless someone has your phone physically?
[15:14] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> @NotKit [on Volla Phone we can change bootloader source code to skip that warning, but no …], Nice! Maybe I'll buy a Volla next, to compare :-)
 @Jan Dierickx [Ah ok, thx for the answers. It is just that i get a wqrning when i startup the p …], It can fixed with latest jasmine firmware
 https://t.me/androidzipfiles/146 … Flash this with twrp
[15:33] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> Great! Thx! I will!
 @Jan Dierickx [So there is no actual risk as mentioned in the warning then? Unless someone has …], No, its just for physical access
[15:47] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> Thank you all for the answers! Great community and love the OS! Looking forward to the next OTA! :-)
[16:25] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> hi all how can i remove anbox from my device?
[16:27] <ubptgbot> <M B> first you have to uninstall all android apps
[16:28] <ubptgbot> <M B> than `anbox-tool disable`
[16:28] <ubptgbot> <M B> `rm -rf ~/anbox-data/ ~/.local/share/applications/anbox/`
[16:28] <ubptgbot> <M B> it worked for me
[16:29] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> ok thanks, try it
[16:38] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> @gibcheesepuffs [https://t.me/androidzipfiles/146 … Flash this with twrp], Thx for the help! It fixed the issue!
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/L9lLqIlf.webp
[16:48] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> @shou Quick question: will there be specific improvements for the Mi A2 with the next OTA or is it a general update of OT?
 @Jan Dierickx [@shou Quick question: will there be specific improvements for the Mi A2 with the …], actually no, not until halium 10 is stable
[17:08] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> @gibcheesepuffs [actually no, not until halium 10 is stable], OK, thx for the feedback! So far I am a happy user.
[17:37] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> @gibcheesepuffs [https://t.me/androidzipfiles/146 … Flash this with twrp], I just noticed that after the firmware update my fingerprint reader doesn't work anymore. Is there a fix for that?
 @Jan Dierickx [I just noticed that after the firmware update my fingerprint reader doesn't work …], that shouldn't happen, but I'll confirm that and let you know
 @Jan Dierickx [I just noticed that after the firmware update my fingerprint reader doesn't work …], https://t.me/shoukolab/46710 … try this one
 This is the one I have been using for a while
 Hi, I have for first time tried the Anbox on my N5 with OTA 16 stable channel. After a success installation on device Terminal with: anbox-tool install command and some testing's, I wanted to go back, bud I realized that I can not apply anbox-tool remove to remove the android apps from the drawer. The android apps keep listed among nativ
[18:01] <ubptgbot> e UT apps from OpenStore. Any idea how to hide them, remove them all? Aplying anbox-tool disable also does not helps, also switching among channels keeps them on the screen. Do I have to to go and choose wipe reinstallation of UT? Thx.
 no you do not need to reinstall UT you just have to remove the desktop files
 rodney posted the paths a while a ago lemme see if i can find it
 @Fuseteam [no you do not need to reinstall UT you just have to remove the desktop files], can you help how-to please, I do not understand very well the steps to follow on docs, where I can see the  [APP_ID]
 `~/.local/share/applications/anbox/` iirc
 thank you very much to both, will try now
 https://t.me/ubports/332203
 oh speaking of rodney there he is 😂
 thank you
 the anbox-data one is the android image btw
 [Edit] the `anbox-data` one is the android image btw
[18:17] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> @gibcheesepuffs [This is the one I have been using for a while], Yes! It works again! Thx!
 https://t.me/UBports_TR It is said There is ruled by Ubuntu Code of Conduct Why UBPorts not  ?
 I need administration there to make community better also
 It is. It's just not in the group description.
 all UBports groups abide by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
 [Edit] all UBports groups abide by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct iirc
 yes
 See you
 Good day, I understand correctly that now, when installing UT on a smartphone, the kernel for anbox is installed in the available versions?
 @Jaymz665 [Good day, I understand correctly that now, when installing UT on a smartphone, t …], anbox on UBPorts ? I guess it will be
 @Jaymz665 [Good day, I understand correctly that now, when installing UT on a smartphone, t …], not all devices have the kernel options enabled by default; but many do, yes
 there are still a couple devices where we need to get the kernel options on by default i think
 My device (turbo) has this. The whole point is that there are two cores. On the first, the device stops seeing SIM cards, on the second (test) the hotspot does not work. I would like to clarify which version of the kernel does the installer install?
 well if one flashes devel image and runs `anbox-tool install` and it works, then it has the anbox enabled kernel; otherwise it doesn't
[20:08] <ubptgbot> E'leon Phillip-Civil was added by: E'leon Phillip-Civil
 Can someone please help me troubleshoot why I can't find the rails command after installing it in my Libertine container?
 [Edit] Can someone please help me troubleshoot why I can't find the 'rails' command after installing it in my Libertine container? Probably a path issue or something.
 how did you install it?
 It was working a couple of days ago, but now something has changed.
 [Edit] Can someone please help me troubleshoot why I can't find the `rails` command after installing it in my Libertine container? Probably a path issue or something.
 Via
 [Edit] Via `gem install rails`
 i guess it installs things not in system `$PATH` then; does it add some path through `~/.profile` or such?
 `rails --version` … `bash: rails: command not found`
 How do I query that?
 i don't know how to use gem
 but i presume you can read `~/.profile` to see if anything relevant is in it
 `echo $PATH` … `usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ruby/gems/2.7.0:/home/phablet/.gem/ruby/2.7.0`
 There is no `~/.profile` file or directory.
 Maybe it isn't set up by default in a container.
 ok
 is `rails` in `~/.gem/ruby/2.7.0` dir then?
[20:41] <ubptgbot> <E'leon Phillip-Civil> Elon Musk give-away crypto!!! LUCKY!!!!! … http://saracenscafe.co.uk/24ae3bc
 Should I create this file?
 no?
 where did gem actually install ruby to?
 There is no `ruby` dir.
 `ruby` was installed with `apt`.
 err, rails
 whatever it is you're trying to run
 Hmm I just did `apt install rails` now and it seems to work.
 I really don't get why `gem install` and `apt install` don't play nice with each other, but all good I hope.
 🤷‍♀️
[20:47] <ubptgbot> dgmarie2 was added by: dgmarie2
 (Photo, 1280x945) https://irc.ubports.com/Q1MjifOQ.png
 Trying to install on a oneplus 3t and getting this error..
 Any help, please?
[21:10] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @Onp0int [Any help, please?], Did you install the ADB + Fastboot packages on your Ubuntu PC?
 Yes they are installed
[21:29] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> I heard that OnePlus3T are sometimes tricky... I guess you already tried the command "oem fastboot unlock"?
[21:36] <ubptgbot> Gayan Bagdatyan was added by: Gayan Bagdatyan
[22:12] <ubptgbot> <Gayan Bagdatyan> http://telabyrinth.co.uk/15e61 … Ellon giveeaaway bitcoin and ethereum! GOOOD!!!!
 Rails is working well enough now.
 (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/uVj5or0V.png
 See that box above the links? `17954.1ms x 5`
 Is that some Morph Browser artefact?