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seb128goood morning desktopers05:52
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:01
ricotzgood morning!06:04
jibelGood morning06:04
didrocksgood morning06:05
jibelsalut didrocks 06:06
oSoMoNhey ricotz, salut jibel & didrocks 06:07
jibelHi oSoMoN 06:11
dufluMorning seb128, oSoMoN, ricotz, jibel, didrocks 06:12
didrockssalut jibel, oSoMoN, duflu 06:12
oSoMoNhey duflu 06:19
jibelHi duflu 06:31
seb128lut oSoMoN, didrocks, jibel, hey duflu ricotz 06:32
oSoMoNsalut seb128 06:35
didrockssalut seb128 06:42
jibelSalut seb128 06:43
Nafallomorning desktoper07:42
Nafallos/$/s/07:42
dufluMorning desktopper07:44
didrockshey Nafallo 07:50
marcustomlinsonmorning seb128 oSoMoN ricotz jibel duflu didrocks Nafallo07:59
dufluHi marcustomlinson 07:59
Laneyyo yo de yo yo08:03
didrockshey marcustomlinson 08:07
oSoMoNgood morning Nafallo, marcustomlinson, Laney 08:09
jibelGood morning marcustomlinson 08:11
oSoMoNnew ubuntu-fr t-shirt for Hirsute Hippo: https://enventelibre.org/fr/ubuntu-fr/190-501-t-shirt-ubuntu-hirsute-hippo.html08:13
marcustomlinsonhey Laney08:16
dufluHi Laney08:18
Laneymoin marcustomlinson duflu 08:29
seb128hey Laney, how are you?08:30
Nafallobah. they moved my wisdom tooth surgery tomorrow until 24th May... I had been planning my weeks to accomodate already.09:01
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tangarora_Hi guys! Hey, I was just installing an ubuntu VDI via qemu-kvm wiht the location=http://... to the ubuntu repo. Works fine, but they were saying that debian installer is deprecated??09:31
tangarora_Littereally echoing when you install from there09:32
GunnarHjHi Laney, do you possibly have a minute to consider bug #1923187?11:29
ubot5bug 1923187 in ibus-libpinyin (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Enable opencc support" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192318711:29
cpaelzertkamppeter: f you could bug someone to also accept sane-backends into hirsute-proposed that would help. As later today is the MIR team meeting and we can (if it shows up) probably get it into the final state to be promoted then11:29
LaneyGunnarHj: Feels late in the cycle, is it important enough to take on extra risk now?11:50
GunnarHjLaney: Fair question. I have no other arguments than those I wrote, referring to Debian testing as the most important indication that it's reasonably safe.11:52
GunnarHjLaney: But if you feel uncomfortable, it's fine with me to wait until next cycle. 21.04 isn't a LTS after all.11:54
LaneyI'm imagining us getting a bug 6 hours before the release about Chinese input being broken11:55
ubot5bug 6 in Launchpad itself ""next 10 entries" at bottom of page" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611:55
Laneyheh thanks ubot5 11:55
GunnarHjLaney: Nah, that won't happen. (If you would approve, I would test the basic Chinese input before uploading.)11:56
LaneyGunnarHj: Really I miss a discussion of what value the change brings to be able to weigh it up against any risks12:07
GunnarHjLaney: That's because I'm not able to describe the value. My own need to convert between simplified and traditional Chinese is ... limited.12:09
Laney:p12:10
Laneywas it a request you saw someone making?12:10
GunnarHjLaney: It started with Debian enabling the thing, and the principal ibus-libpinyin maintainer at Debian is Chinese speaking. So I trust him that it's useful.12:10
LaneyHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm12:13
GunnarHjLaney: I have a 'strategic' argument, sort of. Chinese users generally prefer Fcitx over IBus, while we are stuck with IBus due to GNOME. In that situation it's desirable to make the best of it and make the IBus tool we offer by default as full-featured as possible, so standard Ubuntu is considered a viable option among Chinese speaking users.12:34
hellsworthgood morning desktopers13:13
oSoMoNhey hellsworth 13:15
hellsworthgood day to you oSoMoN !13:15
seb128hey Heather, how are you?13:27
hellsworthhey seb i'm great thanks!13:29
GunnarHjHey hellsworth! You fixed those LO icons sooner than I expected. Thanks!13:31
hellsworthhey GunnarHj glad I could help :)13:33
hellsworthoh nice.. I didn't know it made it into 7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2 :)13:35
GunnarHjhellsworth: Yeah, that's what I meant. :)13:42
hellsworthi knew it had been included in the main hirsute branch but didn't know it had been released :)13:43
hellsworthoh yes i did.. sorry i was getting this mixed up  with a snap icon problem.. yeah yay for the startcenter and math icons. 13:44
hellsworthalso because of this bug i learned about the ubuntu-devel-discuss list (and promptly signed up). looks like there's some good stuff there.13:47
lunaHello desktoppers, any meeting today? 13:50
Trevinholuna: no more IRC meetings, https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/release-tracking-bugs/21692 13:53
lunaTrevinho: ah i thinked there would be two more before they cancelled 13:55
seb128luna, hey, that was announced in https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/announcing-the-ubuntu-desktop-team-indaba-ama-april-23-2021 but maybe we should have another post with the 'no IRC meeting anymore' title or something to make it more obvious, that one isn't really unless you read the content14:04
seb128jibel, do you still plan to re-do the photo and music slideshow screenshots for hirsute?14:04
lunaTrevinho: seb128: thanks, will visit the MRU meeting then that starts in some minutes in #ubuntu-meeting :) and reading up some on the discourse now14:07
seb128np!14:07
lunathe Discourse stopped loading however, but maybe thats just me14:08
lunanow its up again14:08
jibelseb128, yup, just ran out of time.14:11
seb128jibel, ack, I was just checking to make sure it's not something we forgot about14:12
seb128thx14:12
jibelyw14:12
jpnurmioSoMoN: hey, is https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-installer/issues/30 up for grabs? if so, feel free to assign it to me ;)15:17
marcustomlinsonjpnurmi: in order for us to assign you to a bug we will need a comment from you on it15:22
marcustomlinson(just how GH works)15:23
marcustomlinsonso just copy paste your message there essentially :) happy to assign to you15:23
jpnurmiok15:23
oSoMoNjpnurmi, as marcus_tomlinson said, and it's all yours15:24
jpnurmicheers :)15:25
ricotzseb128, thank you for syncing vala :)15:32
ricotzseb128, due to this regression fix, I was looking at possible affected packages -- gnome-tetravex, gnome-2048 and gnome-klotski should get a no-change rebuild15:34
GunnarHjLaney: Does "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" as regards ibus-libpinyin mean yes or no? ;)16:10
LaneyGunnarHj: Neither, but I'm leaning towards not. If it was two weeks ago it might be different...16:21
LaneyUnless you feel up to rustling some Chinese input users and getting some explicit testing?!16:22
GunnarHjLaney: The latter would be too much work. I understand. The security review of the marisa MIR was completed last Friday, and I filed the FFe the same day. But yes, it's late.16:26
* Laney nods16:27
LaneyGet it prepped for 10 days time :>16:27
GunnarHjLaney: Not sure what you mean by that.16:31
Laney?16:31
LaneyIt wasn't meant to be obscure, that's when the new release starts16:32
GunnarHjLaney: Ah, ok.16:32
ricotzplease retry https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/a/automake-1.16/hirsute/amd64 for vala/0.48.17-117:29
ricotzoSoMoN, ^ :)17:49
seb128ricotz, thanks, I rebuilt those now18:11
seb128ricotz, oSoMoN, I retried the autopkgtest also18:12
ricotzseb128, thanks18:14
KGB-0mutter ubuntu/master 8d4c9ff Daniel van Vugt debian/patches/ series 61-mutter.rules-Enable-KMS-modifiers-for-Raspberry-P.patch * Add 61-mutter.rules-Enable-KMS-modifiers-for-Raspberry-P.patch * https://deb.li/3oHDz21:47
KGB-0mutter ubuntu/master Marco Trevisan * [merge] merge request !72: Add 61-mutter.rules-Enable-KMS-modifiers-for-Raspberry-P.patch * https://deb.li/lDai21:47

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