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[07:43]  * enyc ponders....
[07:43] <enyc> wonder if there is an ubuntu-style equivalent of   https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/testing.html
[08:15] <guiverc> enyc, https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-21-04-release-status-tracking/21700
[08:16] <enyc> guiverc: OooOOo  thankyou! =)
[08:16] <enyc> also curious in general what are the largest / most likely disruptive  changes in hirsuit
[08:16] <enyc> e
[08:17] <guiverc> each of the flavors have their own way though...
[08:17] <enyc> guiverc: as in  ubuntu-mate  ubuntu-budgie  etc do their own release tracking whatnot?
[08:18] <guiverc> yeah.. 
[08:18] <enyc> hrrm and community ubuntucinnamon may not come out the same time at all....
[08:18] <enyc> okies =) thankyou!
[08:19] <enyc> I'll probably put 21.04 based something-or-other on test netbook partition after release  in my circumstance!
[08:19] <enyc> ...
[08:19] <enyc> I wonder how debian release freeze-time etc.  interacts with the odd-year april releases like 21.04  coinciding with same time approximately
[08:20] <enyc> ubuntu synced with debian some time before I guess  but may be fighting similiar release-time issues more-or-less
[08:21] <guiverc> fyi: if you look at the iso.QA.ubu tracker; daily looks like http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/419/builds but as release approaches each gets marked 'ready' as per http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/422/builds   (okay some were asleep; only release managers can mark ready)
[08:21] <guiverc> debian tends to release when it's deemed ready, not by a calendar... ubuntu turns of upstream sync according to the schedule
[08:22] <enyc> guiverc: indeed, but nonetheless debian has been every summer every 2 years for some time now and looks to continue that way more-or-less at present
[08:22] <guiverc> yep... that's their aim as I understand it..  but 'ready' beats schedule for debian  (cf. ubuntu)
[08:22] <enyc> you end up bith  ubuntu-LTS  and debian-LTS  intersersed each year alternating =)
[08:24] <guiverc> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-schedule/18539  has feature & debian freeze marked (schedule comes out early;  i-schedule is already out in draft form)
[08:25] <guiverc> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ii-draft-release-schedule/18540
[08:26] <enyc> guiverc: thankyou for links!
[08:29] <guiverc> you're most welcome