[00:13] <ubptgbot> ChocomelUK was added by: ChocomelUK
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 @Stereofont
 spammer spotted @Flohack
 You another tosser
 @wayneoutthere you awake by chance?
 Done
 thanks 👍
[01:58] <ubptgbot> James was added by: James
 Hi, my camera does not work. The app crashes, with black screen. Help please, I am using xperia xz (halium 7.1).
 [Edit] Hi, my camera does not work. The app crashes, with black screen. Help please, I am using xperia xz.
 Hey whats the new update version 336 consists of in redmi4x
 I have uodated a ota today I want to know changes
 I assume you're on devel? … there's really no official list of knowing the changes … you may check recent commits in the repos though
 Oh ok
 Thankx
[08:04] <ubptgbot> leninpoleon was added by: leninpoleon
 @Aleem [Hi, my camera does not work. The app crashes, with black screen. Help please, I …], That is probably normal for the XZ at the moment. A port in progress? Check the device list
[09:13] <ubptgbot> Robb Stark was added by: Robb Stark
 or maybe its root isn't updated to OTA-16? so it has no QT5.12
 Can anyone tell me about ubport app for next cloud
 Or how do you guys take backup
 there's Ubsync for syncing … then there are other apps for notes, news, etc.
 @akshithsbalan [Can anyone tell me about ubport app for next cloud], Ghostcloud?
 Anyone know if UT works fine on the Google Pixel 3 xl (not 3a xl)
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Ghostcloud?], Your review on it ?
 Ghostcloud is great app for browsing your nextcloud files … you can also upload and download but no syncing
 @akshithsbalan [Your review on it ?], I dont really use nextclouds cloud storage much, so I cant really review it, I use it occasionally, and it works well though!
 @PhoenixLandPirate [I dont really use nextclouds cloud storage much, so I cant really review it, I u …], How do guys take backup
 I use a cable and copy my pictures to my laptop.
[12:05] <ubptgbot> soheil3sot was added by: soheil3sot
 @klaartje_b [I use a cable and copy my pictures to my laptop.], What about files  and all other stuffs
 Pictures are files too, all files can be copied that way.
 What kind of other stuffs are you thinking about?
[13:03] <ubptgbot> Shiv983815 was added by: Shiv983815
 Noob question incoming. … How do i install it on supported Android device ?? … Any guide or video to do so?
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuLFTGkuD68  looks relevant, I have not watched it myself.
 (Photo, 262x187) https://irc.ubports.com/KSTJkOUB.png
 @Shiv983815 Does that help any?
 @klaartje_b [@Shiv983815 Does that help any?], It should.. i will try thanks...
 Maybe check where you are posting pictures of your OTP codes next time @mnuesser1962 :)
[15:07] <ubptgbot> ahmedgharib92 was added by: ahmedgharib92
[15:15] <ubptgbot> peixepalhaco was added by: peixepalhaco
 @klaartje_b [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuLFTGkuD68  looks relevant, I have not watched …], 2018 is ancient history tbh
 @akshithsbalan [How do guys take backup], With the Syncthing app. https://open-store.io/app/syncthing.syncthing
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/SsOGGhZI.webp
 @akshithsbalan [Can anyone tell me about ubport app for next cloud], UBsync works well if you have an armhf device (e.g Nexus 5, OnePlus One) but is not yet available for arm64  except as a beta which does not work for my NextCloud account hosted by OwnCube - so not sure if it will work for you https://open-store.io/app/ubsync
 (Voice, 3s) https://irc.ubports.com/QTnYzVmQ.oga
 @Stereofont [2018 is ancient history tbh], Right, so can you find something more recent?
 the procedure didn't exactly change tho :P
 Unfortunately we haven't recorded anything newer... That would be cool, but I don't think we have the facilities at the moment. There are other videos on YouTube of the installation, but not quite that one.
 That video is the single most-watched video on the channel though.
 😄
 I was looking for my recent message and I found it in a totally unrelated group 😆
 anyone use firefox via libertine? … it opens but tabs crash and useless … installing firefox in the root works fine though … they're the same version from what I see
 wuuuut
 now that's new 🤔
[18:29] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> @Javacookies [anyone use firefox via libertine? … it opens but tabs crash and useless … installing …], I had that too, but someone posted the correct version here a couple of days ago and now it works.
[18:31] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> @Javacookies [anyone use firefox via libertine? … it opens but tabs crash and useless … installing …], https://t.me/ubports/336181
 wait is weird to me is that it works in the rootfs
 @Fuseteam [now that's new 🤔], no, I think I was just high 😂
 👀
 @Fuseteam [wait is weird to me is that it works in the rootfs], yeah indeed … but probably something to do with some libertine specific stuffs
 confused noices
 for the one in rootfs, I just edited the desktop file to run it on xmir
 so maybe libertine does more than just run on xmir
 wonder what causes the crash inside libertine
 maybe something's missing in the libertine chrootfs?
 maybe...
 too bad because someone found a way to make it work faster...color is messed up though
 Besides having to use the older 78.7 esr version - another note is that audio for Firefox in Libertine will not work unless pulse audio dependencies are installed in the Libertine container - I just installed the `gtick` app and it pulled in all the needed dependencies.
 @Javacookies [too bad because someone found a way to make it work faster...color is messed up …], eh? faster? on xmir?
 @TotalSonic [Besides having to use the older 78.7 esr version - another note is that audio fo …], audio not working in libertine sounds like it needs a bug report
 Is there a reason some apps are not available for certain devices? … For example UNav is present in the open store on the OnePlus 2 (halium 7 arm64) but neither on the Oneplus3 (halium 7 arm64) nor on the OnePlus 5 (halium 9 arm64)
 @TotalSonic [Besides having to use the older 78.7 esr version - another note is that audio fo …], oh cool … thanks for the tip
 @Fuseteam [audio not working in libertine sounds like it needs a bug report], lol - there are a gazillion bug reports needed for libertine, where to start?  But seems if no one is focused on fixing Libertine for the moment it's kind of moot for the time being
 can we use the banking and financial apps in ubports with anbox?
 @vince1171 [Is there a reason some apps are not available for certain devices? … For example U …], eh? unav is a all package, so its deffo not architecture, all they all post-ota-16?
 [Edit] can we use banking and financial apps in ubports with anbox?
 @TotalSonic [lol - there are a gazillion bug reports needed for libertine, where to start?  B …], well it does need to kept track off :P
 [Edit] can we use banking and financial apps in ubuntu touch with anbox?
 @archi_dagachs [can we use banking and financial apps in ubuntu touch with anbox?], you can try but anbox is experimental pre-alpha atm
 @vince1171 [Is there a reason some apps are not available for certain devices? … For example U …], first is architecture, if the app isn't built for your device's architecture then it won't show but I doubt that's the case with uNav … probably it needs a newer framework that's only available on newer OTA
 @Fuseteam [well it does need to kept track off :P], true!
 @Fuseteam [you can try but anbox is experimental pre-alpha atm], oh, so we need to dual boot
 @archi_dagachs [oh, so we need to dual boot], aka it doesn't work with any apps i tried it with but it does work
 and dual boot is not officially supported
 @Fuseteam [aka it doesn't work with any apps i tried it with but it does work], can we use any virtual machine in ubuntu?
 its a same-ish issue with virtual machines on ubuntu touch
 @TotalSonic [lol - there are a gazillion bug reports needed for libertine, where to start?  B …], I think only wayland can salvage libertine … 20.04 may also help
 or if anbox can run VMOS app, we can use the essential apps in vmos
 tho that's more that nobody has tried machining a virtual machine for android :P
 @Fuseteam [eh? unav is a all package, so its deffo not architecture, all they all post-ota- …], Ota 16 for op2 and 3T … Latest devel image for op5
 @archi_dagachs [or if anbox can run VMOS app, we can use the essential apps in vmos], no idea what VMOS is
 @Fuseteam [no idea what VMOS is], an androud virtual machine for android
 @Fuseteam [no idea what VMOS is], [Edit] an android virtual machine for android
 unluckily, it's closed sourced
 .......sounds like it needs porting to ubuntu tou— dang it
 @Fuseteam [.......sounds like it needs porting to ubuntu tou— dang it], if anbox can run the vmos app.......
 in any case a vm in a container on top of a container doesn't sound like a good idea
 perhaps ask the vmos devs if they want to support ubuntu touch directly
 @Javacookies [I think only wayland can salvage libertine … 20.04 may also help], Yeah, definitely some promise with the coming 20.04 upgrade - but have to say one thing I wish we could see would be integration of some of the work that the Phosh/Pure OS folks did in making some of the desktop apps scale way more nicely on mobile devices
[18:49] <ubptgbot> .   Their phone optimized versions of Firefox and Geary would be really nice to be able to use on UT.
 (Photo, 591x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Y0tC3J1L.png
 I think you can compile them and use on UT
 @archi_dagachs [<reply to media>], https://t.me/ubports/336850
 @Fuseteam [https://t.me/ubports/336850], okay, the idea seems some fantasy :D
 @TotalSonic [Yeah, definitely some promise with the coming 20.04 upgrade - but have to say on …], i mean if they have a repo we could try and package it for ut
 @Fuseteam [https://t.me/ubports/336850], [Edit] okay, the idea seems like some fantasy :D
 @archi_dagachs [okay, the idea seems like some fantasy :D], https://t.me/ubports/336851 ;)
 @Fuseteam [https://t.me/ubports/336851 ;)], thanks
 (Video, 61s) https://irc.ubports.com/fnrrSnW9.mp4
 gotta admit tis kinda cool
 @Fuseteam [i mean if they have a repo we could try and package it for ut], Geary (email client) is here: … https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/geary
 oh wonderful purism has their own gitlab instance
 It looks neat @archi_dagachs, but it probably won't work in Anbox. You could try it out.
 Run android 12 in anbox with this one weird trick
 @UniversalSuperBox [It looks neat @archi_dagachs, but it probably won't work in Anbox. You could try …], yeah I am pulling that time with paracord to try it, but firstly I need a telephony-working begonia port. Thanks.
 @Fuseteam [oh wonderful purism has their own gitlab instance], kind of goes along with their "not invented here" rebrand everything style.  But then again, the source code is all there, and they have done some good work that is at least a start on these things, that I am hoping could be useful towards porting some of this stuff (althou
[19:00] <ubptgbot> gh I imagine there are some barriers in UT with gtk, xmir and wayland support that have to be surmounted for this too)
 I use Geary in Libertine currently for those moments when I have to get an email sent for my Bluehost account but when Dekko2 is being buggy and refusing to send through it for an unknown reason (even though I've confirmed many times that smtp settings for that account  are correct).  But the Geary interface on a phone is definitely se
[19:02] <ubptgbot> riously clunky.  From the screenshots I've seen it seems the Purism version fixes a lot of that.
 @TotalSonic [kind of goes along with their "not invented here" rebrand everything style.  But …], well kinda but kinda not, you do have more control with your own gitlab instance, debian and kde also have their own gitlab instance :P
 but i get you sentiment hehe
 [Edit] but i get your sentiment hehe
 @Fuseteam [well kinda but kinda not, you do have more control with your own gitlab instance …], oh, I agree with you. Nothing wrong with running ones own instance at all.
 @TotalSonic [kind of goes along with their "not invented here" rebrand everything style.  But …], they were using phabricator before, so it's not like switching to a self-run gitlab was unexpected, if they chose to move to gitlab. i don't think it's so much an "nih" thing in that case though
 @dohbee [they were using phabricator before, so it's not like switching to a self-run git …], agreed.  It does go along with having everything "in house" though.
 @TotalSonic [agreed.  It does go along with having everything "in house" though.], the thing about decentralized services is that you need people to actually be running them; they are trying to make some additional money on services, so it makes sense for them to use mastodon/matrix/etc… to build a branded service suite on.
[20:16] <ubptgbot> arminhere was added by: arminhere
 yeah, I had just gotten really cynical about Purism after the Librem 5 rollout fiasco, but there is nothing wrong about running ones own git or Mastodon instance, and I do appreciate the work towards mobile device FOSS regardless.
 ... anyway - probably a topic best for the Overflow channel - so will stop commenting on it now.
 [Edit] yeah, I had just gotten really cynical about Purism after the Librem 5 rollout fiasco, but there is nothing wrong about running ones own git or Mastodon instance, and I do appreciate their work towards mobile device FOSS regardless.
[22:55] <ubptgbot> PC0306 was added by: PC0306
 Link for redmi note 7??????
 Ubuntu touch for redmi note 7
 How install without PC, because my Windows not make it, ever error
 Answered in the welcome group
 @TotalSonic [yeah, I had just gotten really cynical about Purism after the Librem 5 rollout f …], Yeah like i said i understand you're sentiment, i'm also salty about how the rollout turned out
[23:59] <ubptgbot> Samkhazi was added by: Samkhazi