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[06:40] <bluesabre> Other than maybe adding more details to the UX Updates section, I think the release notes are done. Anybody that wants to make any additions or changes, please feel free to! https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/21.04/release-notes :)
[06:43] <jphilips> bluesabre: I see the 4.14.5 xfwm SRU in software updater
[06:44] <bluesabre> jphilips: I suspect that'
[06:44] <bluesabre> s in the SRU staging ppa
[06:44] <bluesabre> I don't see it in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4, so I don't think its been uploaded yet
[06:47] <jphilips> i disabled -proposed after an ubuntu dev mentioned that it broke his system
[07:29] <jphilips> yes i see i'm subscribed to the SRU ppa
[08:08] <jphilips> bluesabre: presume the SRU is still pending to be accepted upstream
[10:16] <jphilips> default settings and documentation are missing for vietnamese - https://www.transifex.com/xubuntu/dashboard/all_projects/vi/
[10:17] <bluesabre> xubuntu-default-settings with more translation updates should land today
[10:18] <jphilips> what i meant is that vietnamese translators don't have the option to translate those two projects
[10:18] <bluesabre> oh I see, the languange isn't enabled
[10:19] <jphilips> yep
[10:20] <bluesabre> Enabled now
[10:20] <jphilips> thanks. i just reached out to vietnamese translators to help translate xubuntu :D
[10:23] <bluesabre> Awesome. It's unlikely we'll be doing any more uploads at this point, so no rush.
[10:25] <jphilips> yep sil2100 mentioned that a few days ago
[10:26] <jphilips> do translation updates not come during a release?
[10:34] <bluesabre> Not usually, though they could. We don't publish new ISOs, so they'd only be available via updates. As with anything, they'd have to go through the SRU process, so at the very least upload, spot-check, wait 7+ days. With the exception of LTS, the work outweighs the benefit.
[10:38] <bluesabre> I think translation updates for interim releases don't fall into one of the SRU categories: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#When
[10:39] <jphilips> i'm pushing the translators in the telegram group to both translate xfce and xubuntu, so atleast if we can get the xubuntu translations pushed every 2 months, if there is sufficient work done, that would be a great motivator
[10:40] <jphilips> xfce translations would come with new point releases and presume that would be more scrutinized.
[10:41] <bluesabre> The other thing is that Transifex targets the master branch which just follows the current in-development release, so it stands to reason that there could be deviation between the releases and not all updates would be applicable.
[10:41] <bluesabre> In the end, it comes down to somebody doing the packaging work and uploads or sponsorships, and translations for interim releases are just the lowest priority for me at least. :D
[10:42] <bluesabre> Unit193 might feel differently, or somebody outside of us could do the packaging and seek sponsorship
[10:43] <bluesabre> We need more folks getting that experience anyway, so if somebody is motivated, I won't stop them.
[10:45] <bluesabre> 21.04 Release Tracking: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-21-04-release-status-tracking/21700/2
[10:52] <jphilips> release notes look good. can i spread the word about it on social media?
[10:56] <bluesabre> I'd recommend waiting until the release candidate images are available.
[10:56] <bluesabre> Which I believe should be sometime today.
[11:42] <bluesabre> Since we updated them, I added a page for all of the global keyboard shortcuts in 21.04 and linked to it from the release notes: https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/21.04/keyboard-shortcuts
[11:43] <bluesabre> That's it from me today, bbl
[15:28] <jphilips> this has been an annoying bug for me. should we consider including our own .desktop file with the fix suggested in comment 14 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-font-viewer/+bug/1845362
[15:28] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1845362 in gnome-font-viewer (Ubuntu) "gnome-font-viewer crashed with signal 5 in _XEventsQueued()" [High, Confirmed]
[20:59] <bluesabre> Sounds like a bad hack.
[21:03] <remline> We would be lucky if we could fix *all* software bugs by simply passing the "debug" flag. :)
[22:36] <Unit193> No you're right, I tend to only do SRU's for crashing bugs or memleaks.
[23:17] <Unit193> https://github.com/nsz32/docklike-plugin/compare/master...davekeogh:main well that makes things even more fun, then..