[05:27] <jibel> Good morning all
[05:39] <ActionHOSchT> Good morning 
[05:43] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:05] <didrocks> good morning
[06:10] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks 
[06:11] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN 
[06:11] <jibel> salut oSoMoN didrocks 
[06:13] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[06:14] <oSoMoN> salut jibel 
[06:38] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:40] <jibel> Salut seb128 
[06:40] <didrocks> salut seb128 
[08:00] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 
[08:01] <Laney> yo
[08:07] <ricotz> good morning everyone :)
[08:07] <jibel> hi Laney 
[08:07] <jibel> hi ricotz 
[08:08] <jibel> hi oSoMoN 
[08:08] <oSoMoN> yo Laney & ricotz 
[08:10] <seb128> hey jibel didrocks oSoMoN Laney ricotz, how are you?
[08:10] <oSoMoN> I'm alright, thanks
[08:10] <oSoMoN> seb128, how are you yourself?
[08:11] <Laney> hey jibel oSoMoN seb128 
[08:11] <Laney> noooooooooooot baddd
[08:12] <seb128> oSoMoN, got another 'fun' night including a baby emptying her stomach on my pyjama and not sleeping before 3am, which means another challening day following, but that seems the routine at this point :-/ 
[08:12] <didrocks> seb128: good good, writing tests tests tests
[08:12] <jibel> seb128, I'm alright, thanks.
[08:12] <didrocks> hey Laney, ricotz 
[08:13] <Laney> salut didrocks 
[08:14] <Laney> seb128: :(
[08:17] <seb128> Laney, marcustomlinson, jamesh, weekly discourse reminder
[08:17] <Laney> yeah I'm doing it now
[08:17] <Laney> we got distracted with stupid shim thing yesterday
[08:17] <Laney> sorry about that
[08:17] <seb128> np!
[08:17] <seb128> Trevinho, oh also you
[09:17] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I noticed that you uploaded 89.0~b1 builds to the firefox-next PPA, xenial will be EOL before it is released, so no need for a build targetting it, right?
[09:20] <ricotz> oSoMoN, that is correct, I am aware of that, I was hoping to be able to keep it until ff91 which is an ESR again
[09:21] <oSoMoN> ack, having it building in a PPA won't hurt, but it won't go to xenial-{updates,security}
[10:46] <luna> Hello desktoppers
[10:46] <oSoMoN> hello luna 
[10:47] <luna> ricotz: oSoMoN: stupid question but where did you find the sources there is nothing here: https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/89.0b1/
[10:48] <oSoMoN> luna, https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/89.0b1-candidates/
[10:48] <luna> ah thanks
[10:54]  * ogra grins ... 
[10:55] <ogra> so firefox (the app) stops supporting ftp urls, but mozilla still offers their traballs on ftp.mozilla.org ... (indeed using the http protocol) ... kind of ironic
[10:56] <luna> https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/89.0b1-candidates/
[10:56] <luna> the archive. url also exists
[10:56] <luna> :p
[11:14] <oSoMoN> ogra, I think the "ftp." part is purely for the sake of nostalgia :)
[11:15] <ogra> yeah ... to please old farts 🙂 
[11:30] <Laney> desktop ISOs are out http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/423/builds/229822/testcases
[11:30] <Laney> test test test
[11:32] <luna> Laney: will do thanks :) 
[11:43] <Maik> Laney: the pi image link gives a Not Found
[11:44] <luna> Maik: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20210420/hirsute-preinstalled-desktop-arm64+raspi.img.xz 
[11:44] <luna> works here
[11:44] <Maik> not at my end.... weird
[11:45] <Laney> give it a few minutes for the mirrors to sync
[11:45] <Maik> ok, will do
[12:42] <Maik> pi image downloaded and flashed to sd, will test it tonight
[12:59] <luna> jibel: Laney: runned all todays test images that can be run in Virtualbox now and reported back
[13:00] <jibel> luna, awesome! Thank you
[13:00] <jibel> luna, did you find any serious issue?
[13:01] <luna> The Ubuntu budgie installer got stuck, when typing a password and Lubuntu and MATE was missing some Swedish translations
[13:06] <jibel> luna, it the "stuck installer" bug reproducible or was it a one off issue? 
[13:06] <jibel> s/it/is/
[13:29] <jibel> Laney, can you help with the nvidia test case?
[13:30] <Laney> yeah doing it
[13:30] <jibel> thx
[13:31] <Laney> de nada
[13:35] <jibel> I covered everything I could in VMs and we'll wait for feedback from OEM tomorrow
[13:54] <luna> jibel: gonna try again and see what happends, any last meeting today? or testing the RCs the whole day?
[13:57] <luna> seems to work now, so guessing a one off Virtualbox thing
[14:01] <luna> it worked now so just seemd to be a one off Virtualbox thing
[14:10] <luna> Laney: can you remove the Desktop meeting from the Fridge Calendar? as i don't like having meetings thats not happening anymore synced to my Google Calendar, if you are so kind
[14:11] <Laney> luna: I don't think I have permission, try asking in #ubuntu-news
[14:12] <luna> alright 
[14:13] <luna> done thanks
[14:17] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:17] <oSoMoN> mornin' hellsworth 
[14:18] <luna> hello hellsworth 
[14:19] <hellsworth> o/ oSoMoN and luna :)
[14:19] <luna> Laney: pleia2 fixed it now :)
[14:20] <Laney> 👍
[14:51] <luna> oSoMoN: new Thunderbird beta
[15:02] <seb128> luna, where do you see those? https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/88.0beta/releasenotes/ has nothing new
[15:02] <seb128> nor does https://releases.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/
[15:02] <seb128> still 88.0b3 as the current beta?
[15:04] <Laney> tseliot: hey I'm noticing on this prime system (p15s) that I semi randomly get x11 sessions or wayland ones, have you heard about that?
[15:04] <Laney> I seem to sometimes get performance (nvidia) mode
[15:05] <kenvandine> Laney: keeping you on your toes
[15:05] <Laney> I'll say
[15:06] <Laney> I should install bucklespring and use that as a canary to detect if wayland is working or not
[15:07] <tseliot> Laney, what does "sudo modinfo nvidia-drm" say?
[15:08] <Laney> one sec, let me get that in both modes
[15:13] <luna> seb128: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/candidates/89.0b1-candidates/
[15:13] <jibel> Hi hellsworth 
[15:13] <hellsworth> hi there jibel 
[15:13] <seb128> luna, is there a webpage or email announcing those?
[15:13] <Laney> tseliot: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Zt7QDSX364/
[15:15] <luna> good question, not sure
[15:16] <luna> seb128: there is this Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0/embed?src=jgarvd0cmlt3599e7gthhk01a8@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Paris
[15:16] <luna> i think that should be public
[15:20] <tseliot> Laney, what does "grep -R nvidia /lib/modprobe.d/" say?
[15:21] <Laney> tseliot: do you want me to do this in x11 or wayland?
[15:21] <tseliot> Laney, it doesn't really make any difference
[15:22] <Laney> okey
[15:22] <Laney> tseliot: then it's empty
[15:23] <tseliot> Laney, ok, so KMS is not enabled for NVIDIA. I suspect you get Wayland in intel mode, and you don't in nvidia or performance mode
[15:24] <Laney> right
[15:24] <seb128> luna, thanks, it is public indeed
[15:25] <tseliot> Laney, so, that's expected, since the intel driver supports Wayland, whereas (by default) NVIDIA doesn't.
[15:25] <Laney> tseliot: indeed, but I would expect it to consistently be in one mode and not change between them on reboots
[15:25] <Laney> probably intel by default
[15:26] <tseliot> Laney, when you notice the change, maybe have a look at the /var/log/gpu-manager.log . It usually says why the change took place
[15:44] <Laney> tseliot: ack I'll file a bug with these logs
[15:44] <tseliot> Laney, ok, thanks
[15:45] <luna> perfect, was making some dinner
[16:59] <Laney> tseliot: filed it, you should get mail, sorry for the delay - meetings 😏