[00:00] <sarnold> Perk: try again, it should work now; thanks for the report :)
[00:39] <Perk> Woot, it's working!! Thank you for the assist!
[00:39] <sarnold> yay thanks :)
[01:27] <Samian> hi
[01:28] <Samian> is Nautilus ubuntu's default file manager? I ask because nowhere do I see the name nautilus being used in ubuntu. I have 20.04 installed.
[01:29] <kk4ewt> Samian, yes nautilus is the package but gnome calls it file manager
[01:31] <Samian> it's confusing when all of the internet calls it one name, and in the actual os, it's another name.
[01:48] <guiverc> Samian, maybe reading `apt-cache show nautilus` will help  (Ubuntu is just using GNOME terminology.. file manager is used to try and simply the program)
[01:48] <Samian> cool
[01:59] <Arc1> Want to install 20.04 on a sepparate partition of a multiboot system (with home on a sepparate partition). sda3 partition created and formated as ext4. During instalation: device for boot loader installation should be /dev/sda or /dev/sda3? Also (with either sda or sda3 selected above) get "no root file system is defined" what am I missing?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> Arc1: Boot code to the device (sda) - as to "no root file sysyem defined" .. did you set '/' for "use as" in the installer ?
[02:06] <Arc1> Bashing-om: so first of all do I pick sda or sda3 as "device for boot loader instalation"?
[02:07] <cluelessperson> How do you define custom multimedia keys?
[02:12] <Bashing-om> Arc1: Well - sda only if the Operating system is installed to sda drive :D
[02:12] <sarnold> cluelessperson: there may be nice friendly gui tools in your desktop environment for mapping new keys
[02:12] <cluelessperson> sarnold, I'm happy with command line
[02:13] <cluelessperson> sarnold, also, I don't want to map, I want to invent a new one entirely
[02:13] <cluelessperson> like, I want to be able to connect a button, configure it as a keyboard, have it fire a code of some sort
[02:13] <Bashing-om> * to be installed - as you are manually paritioning - in the partioner there is a flag to set " use as " .
[02:13] <sarnold> cluelessperson: if you're not using a DE then you can probably use xev to find the keycodes that are being sent and use xmodmap or setxkbmap to fiddle with the commands there (probably xmodmap, but I'm not positive setxkbmap can't do it)
[02:13] <cluelessperson> have linux recognize the code
[02:13] <cluelessperson> be able to set it as a keyboard shortcut in apps
[02:13] <sarnold> the "in apps" part might be hard
[02:13] <Arc1> Bashing-om: I mean, why would it be wrong to say sda3 if this OS will be booting from sda3 partition?
[02:16] <cluelessperson> sarnold, is there documentation somewhere that shows the pipeline somewhere?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> Arc1: The boot code instlled to a reserved position at the start of the drive. Details: http://iam.tj/prototype/guides/boot/ .
[02:18] <cluelessperson> the key I want to remap is 156
[02:19] <Bashing-om> Arc1: While one can install the boot code to the partition - it is a special case. To do so one has to jump through some hoops to make it so.
[02:20] <Diagon> Anyone been keeping up with this bug?  "i915 GPU HANG".  It seems there's a bug in the driver.  I'm wondering if someone has up to date suggestions of what I can do?
[02:20] <sarnold> cluelessperson: xmodmap -pke currently shows on my system: keycode 156 = XF86Launch1 NoSymbol XF86Launch1
[02:20] <Arc1> Bashing-om: I should have remembered that...  sorry for a dumb question... now regarding the second question: I should set "mount point" for sda3 to "/"?
[02:20] <sarnold> cluelessperson: you could configure your application to use XF86Launch1 right now, assuming your output is the same
[02:21] <Bashing-om> Arc1: There are no dumb questions - is root for the new install to be sda3 ?
[02:23] <cluelessperson> sarnold, on this keyboard, it's a favorites media key
[02:24] <cluelessperson> sarnold, a google search says the kernel adds 8
[02:24] <cluelessperson> 164=  nothing
[02:24] <cluelessperson> (which I set)
[02:26] <cluelessperson> sarnold, what do each index mean?
[02:26] <Arc1> Bashing-om: my goal is to have both of my linux versions (on diff partitions) to appear as root when booted, so I guess yes?
[02:28] <cluelessperson> sarnold, what is this name:  XF86WLAN
[02:30] <boy-sudo> Is gnome 40 going to be  available on the new release of ubuntu
[02:31] <Bashing-om> Arc1: I too multi-boot - Boot code goes to the device. A shared /home is not a good idea as config files will be in conflict.
[02:32] <sarnold> cluelessperson: that is probably intended to be used by desktop environments to toggle the software radio kill switch
[02:33] <Bashing-om> boy-sudo: No - 21.04 will use 3.38 with all updates.
[02:33] <cluelessperson> sarnold, yes, but what is it called
[02:33] <sarnold> cluelessperson: I'm lost at the "kernel adds 8" thing though
[02:33] <cluelessperson> the sthing
[02:33] <cluelessperson> like what are these key thingies
[02:33] <cluelessperson> how do I make them
[02:34] <cluelessperson> instead of XF86WLAN  "CLUELESSKEY"
[02:36] <Arc1> Bashing-om: I see how that can be an issue but isn't having a shared /home the whole idea in order to allow simultaneous use of diff ver's and flavours of linux (without duplication of personal data and ease of version updates)??
[02:37] <sarnold> cluelessperson: hmm. I *think* those sorts of names are usually used just for supporting funny keyboards on funny architectures with their own oddball keyboards :) I'm not sure that you really *do* want to define new symbolic names for keycodes .. the usual thing is to configure your software to handle the keycodes or the symbolic names to do whatever it is you want with either the number the keyboard
[02:37] <sarnold> already sends, or the name already assigned to the number
[02:43] <Arc1> Bashing-om: do you have a different solution for this problem?
[02:46] <Bashing-om> Arc1: I am kinda dense - explain the problem to me once more, that I have failed to adress yet.
[02:51] <Arc1> Bashing-om: you are anything but dense :)  OK, I have been advised in the past that sharing home lets you run diff OS versions to try them out and perhaps for diff functionality. Also it is suppose to ease upgrading OS without having to rebuild you home for each install. And yes I have ran into an issue with configs being overwritten but figured that is a price one has to pay. So my question was,
[02:51] <Arc1> do you have a better way of achieving this?
[02:52] <sarnold> I think you're asking for trouble to try to use one home directory between two different operating systems
[02:52] <sarnold> so many programs just blat their data into files without trying to maintain backwards compatibilty with old versions or forward compatibility with future versions
[02:53] <cluelessperson> yeah
[02:55] <Bashing-om> Arc1: A seperate /home is indeed a good thing - just not one /home shared between operating systems.
[02:57] <Arc1> Bashing-om: even diff versions of the same OS, for example: Xubuntu 18.04 and Xub 20.04?
[02:59] <sarnold> it'd be far better to share only the exact things you know will work fine between them, eg your movies, your latex documents, that kind of stuff
[03:00] <Arc1> Bashing-om: what is the advantage of a sepparate /home if not for sharing?
[03:00] <Bashing-om> Arc1: I presently have 2 drives operational on this box - multi-booting 3 'buntus : https://termbin.com/3sea .
[03:05] <Arc1> Bashing-om: any you have a sepparate /home for each of your buntus?
[03:06] <Arc1> *and
[03:14] <Bashing-om> Arc1: NO - I have a seperate /home for my daily use system, the other 2 have included /homes within the root.
[03:17] <Diagon> Because of the "GPU HANG" error in the i915 driver, it LL I have to upgrade or downgrade my kernel to 5.11 or 5.4.  Can someone clue me in about the different kernel flavors?  -oem, -generic, -lowlatency, -gke, etc. etc.?
[03:18] <sarnold> Diagon: -oem is mostly for including oddball drivers that aren't upstreamed yet
[03:18] <sarnold> Diagon: -generic is what most people will run on actual hardware
[03:18] <Arc1> Bashing-om: OK, so what is(are) the advantage(s) of a separate /home in this situation? And why don't the other 2 have separate homes?
[03:18] <sarnold> Diagon: -lowlatency is preferred for audio / video / robots
[03:19] <sarnold> Diagon: -gke is configured in partnership with google to run on their cloud
[03:19] <Diagon> sarnold - Ah, ok.  I'm getting it....
[03:19] <sarnold> Diagon: this may be useful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[03:25] <Bashing-om> Arc1: I Do a lot of strange things that could fill up disk space ( I used to also run /var seperate). A seperate /home gives me better control over disk useage in this primary system and aids in those restoration times of OOppps. The other installs are for aids in support questions, I have no direct need of them so I pay little heed to them.
[03:33] <Diagon> So I'm on a basically new install of 20.04, kernel 5.8.0.  First time changing kernel.  If I downgrade to 5.4.0-72-generic (5.11, the other option, is not yet in the repos), should it just work?  Or is changing kernel a bigger project?
[03:38] <Arc1> Bashing-om: My case use is to create a bullet-proof system for an older client. I do his system support and if it goes down I have to head out to it. Which is not great in the time of Covid. So, I wanted to make a dual boot with xub 18 and xub 20, in case there is a problem with one, he could just switch to another. But for that, they have to be equally functional. Yet, since there is only a 80GB
[03:39] <Diagon> (sarnold ^^ 2-up ^^) or anyone, really.
[03:40] <Arc1> Bashing-om: HD I couldn't splurge on 2 separate homes. How would you deal with this situation?
[03:42] <Bashing-om> Arc1: A small 10 gigs install for that secondary recovery system :D
[03:44] <Arc1> Bashing-om: that's enough for a recovery system but my goal was to have two equally functional systems
[03:45] <Bashing-om> Arc1: Consider a shared (smallish) data partition rather than sharing /home.
[03:49] <Arc1> Bashing-om: ok, so currently xub18 has 23GB, home has 20GB, which other partitions of what size would you create for xub20, data, swap, etc?
[03:53] <Bashing-om> Arc1: 20.04 can create a swap file rather than a /swap partition - 18.04 can be made to also do with a swap file. As to sizes - use case dictates. Are these installs on SSDs where over-provisoning is a factor ?
[03:54] <Arc1> Bashing-om: no ssd's just a single 80GB HD
[03:58] <Bashing-om> Arc1: Were me I would run 20.04 as the primary, and install as secondary to a 25 Gig partiion - with say 10 gigs for the shared data partion. Run swaps as files.
[04:07] <Arc1> Bashing-om: xub18 is already installed (has 23gigs) and handles swap as a file; /home is now sepparate (has 20gigs). with 10 gigs for data and ~20gigs for xub20, how to change the "ownership" of home from 18 to 20 if home is not to be shared?
[04:10] <Bashing-om> Arc1: Install both systems with same username and passwords :)
[04:14] <Arc1> what would be the mount points for xub20, its home and the shared data partition?
[04:16] <Bashing-om> Arc1: os_prober-30 of grub will take care of the booting, for the shared data partiton make an entry in /etc/fstab to mount it.
[04:18] <Arc1> Bashing-om: "os_prober-30"?
[04:21] <Arc1> also, when intstaller asks to install two version "side by side" is it intelligent enough to put them in separate partitions or not?
[04:23] <Bashing-om> Arc1: The utilty from within grub that picks up and permits the selection of alternate booting systems. I do highly suggest however that os_prober-30 be disabled in that secondary system to prevent recurrsions within grub's config files.
[04:27] <Bashing-om> Arc1: If of interest - there is a means to make up a "maintenance free" grub that is truely neat.
[04:32] <Arc1> Bashing-om: my friend, you are a smart guy, unfortunately this advise seems to be way over my head...
[04:38] <Bashing-om> Arc1: Just passing on some of my experiences - I have run multi-boot now for a few years and I have picked up an acorn or 2 :)
[04:41] <Arc1> I'd like to benefit from your knowledge and will return in ~15min
[04:42] <Bashing-om> Arc1: ack - but I am about finished for this session - somewwht past my alloted time here now.
[04:51] <Arc1> Bashing-om: thanks for your help hope to talk again soon
[04:53] <Bashing-om> Arc1: I will return in a few hours :) Morning chores done and here I be :P
[04:53] <Arc1> :)
[06:30] <toffe> Hiya, anyone good with the cloud-config? I have a user-data file to auto install ubuntu. It works perfectly but it has one "Downloading and installing security updates" which happens before the late-commands are run. It takes ages, I was hoping it was possible to skip that since when it is installed our script does a full upgrade anyway. This way we can quickly get the images on the devices and deploy them.
[06:30] <toffe> https://i.imgur.com/F8wsLuu.png - I tried "repo_upgrade: no" but for no avail.
[08:14] <sacarde> hi
[08:15] <sacarde> how can I set keyboard layout one for vconsole and another for X ?
[08:15] <RonaldsMazitis> hey
[08:21] <TheBigK02> sacarde: setxkbmap <- i think? :)
[08:22] <sacarde> and if I want to select another in virtual consolle tty?
[08:23] <TheBigK02> sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration <- try that one
[08:23] <sacarde> I tried, but this change all values
[08:23] <TheBigK02> u ask difficult things... :D
[08:23] <sacarde> I need "us" for X and "it" for tty..
[08:25] <TheBigK02> i would then set it to it with dpkg-reconfigure and use the specific configuration for ur desktop to change the X11 behaviour
[08:25] <TheBigK02> but im not fimilar with other desktops besides KDE and xfce
[09:56] <larkfisherman> Does anyone know of a tool for mocking IP address with another IP address? E.g. `<command> 10.42.0.1 192.168.0.2` would redirect all local connections to 10.42.0.1 into local connections to 192.168.0.2...
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> larkfisherman: perhaps a question for ##networking ?
[09:58] <larkfisherman> Thanks, will try.
[10:03] <pony> in the market for a new laptop and wondering will this probably work with ubuntu? https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/15-6-asus-r5-8gb-512gb-laptop/34598722
[10:05] <pony> what usually /doesn't/ work?
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> !hardware | pony
[10:05] <pony> thx
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> pony: most machines work like a charm on ubuntu, just some chipsets might have some more bugs then others, also better avoid chromebooks
[10:06] <pony> I see
[10:06] <pony> yeah it's running nicely on my old ideapad
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> pony: newer machines might also like newer ubuntu release(s)/kernel(s)
[10:07] <pony> yeah
[10:15] <pony> !apic
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> pony: !acpi ?
[10:26] <pony> I think it was apic. I read an ask ubuntu post in which someone said that turning it off let them boot with vega 8 graphics card.
[10:26] <pony> but maybe that's old info
[10:27] <TJ-> Advanced Programmable Interface Controller (APIC) vs Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) - most likely the latter
[10:27] <pony> the OP may have misspelled it yes :)
[10:28] <rory> https://i.imgur.com/Fm7W6fC.jpg
[10:29] <rory> might have trouble getting the Do Re Mi keys to work with ubuntu
[10:29] <pony> rory: I love this
[10:30] <pony> !acpi
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:48] <p0a> Hello is there a way to get a more recent version of gcc than of 9.3?
[12:49] <NAPSS> Hi everyone, ive got a question with nautilus and connecting into a server in sftp with it
[12:49] <Fin3> hellohello
[12:50] <Fin3> NAPSS, sftp://
[12:50] <NAPSS> Fin3 yeah i know
[12:50] <NAPSS> https://i.imgur.com/mmOvPYZ.png
[12:50] <NAPSS> But i cant go back before /home folder
[12:51] <Fin3> that's all about the sftp server
[12:51] <Fin3> (if I understood well)
[12:51] <NAPSS> Fin3 , when i connect manually https://i.imgur.com/UalNHAN.png it's fine.. when i add it to my favorite in the nautilus sidebar i only have my /personnalfolder and i cant go back
[12:51] <NAPSS> sorrry im french :(
[12:51] <Fin3> ah sorry now i got it
[12:52] <Fin3> i'm italian :)
[12:52] <p0a> NAPSS: how about control+L ?
[12:52] <NAPSS> p0a ill test
[12:52] <NAPSS> p0a hey thanks :)
[12:53] <NAPSS> Its make me write the destination in the toolbar :)
[12:53] <p0a> you're welcome
[12:53] <Fin3> guys, which is the server chan?
[12:53] <Fin3> #ubuntuserver is empty
[12:53] <NAPSS> I'm verry happy, i didnt know this CTRL + l commands :)
[12:55] <remline> p0a: It looks like focal has a gcc-10 package. https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/gcc-10
[12:58] <p0a> remline: ah thank you
[14:07] <renan`saddam> Hey everyone. I am running Ubuntu 20.04.2 and the instances I created few hours ago now seems to contain a buggy version of docker.io + containerd/runc. I noticed we are missing the package release of containerd for amd64 (which I am using). Is there an ETA to release for this arch? I am looking at
[14:07] <renan`saddam> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/containerd
[15:56] <jpmh> I have a server that has run flwlesly for over 2 years, ubuntu 18.04 - suddenly any attemot to lookup dns on the machine returns " connection timed out; no servers could be reached" - there is as there always was, a listener on port 127.0.0.1:53 - where do I start to look?
[16:10] <leftyfb> jpmh: systemd-resolve --status|grep -i "dns servers"
[16:11] <leftyfb> jpmh: run that to list the configured nameservers
[16:13] <jpmh> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/l3cqZJ9m
[16:14] <jpmh> that was for leftyfb
[16:14] <leftyfb> jpmh: Are there multiple nameservers or not?
[16:15] <jpmh> leftyfb:I believe that there should be - but all that show with status is what I pasted - I believe that there should be 8.8.4.4 too from the .conf file
[16:15] <leftyfb> ok, that's fine. Can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[16:16] <leftyfb> jpmh: does this machine have a desktop environment installed and running?
[16:16] <jpmh> leftyfb:not only can I ping it but if I do my lookup with dig @8.8.8.8 domain then all is fine
[16:16] <jpmh> leftyfb:it has no desktop - it is a server
[16:17] <leftyfb> jpmh: try restarting systemd-resolved
[16:18] <jpmh> leftyfb:I have even re-booted the server !
[16:22] <iekfkk> apt-cache policy neovim ; installed but which binary?
[16:22] <leftyfb> jpmh: do you have the "nameserver 127.0.0.53" entry in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[16:22] <iekfkk> is there a cmd to find a pkg's cmd
[16:22] <jpmh> leftyfb:I have just tested and on that server I can NOT connect to 127.0.0.1:53 - all others I can
[16:23] <leftyfb> jpmh: nameserver 127.0.0.53
[16:23] <sarnold> iekfkk: dpkg -L packagename  ?
[16:23] <jpmh> leftyfb:yes = that is there
[16:24] <jpmh> leftyfb:in fact there are TWO non-comment lines, that one and options edns0 - watever that is
[16:26] <sarnold> iirc that sends along IP address information to upstream resolvers, so that dns auth servers can give better geo-ip results to clients
[16:26] <jpmh> leftyfb:and netstat does show: 4546/systemd-resolv as running
[16:27] <leftyfb> jpmh: can you pastebin the full output of: nslookup -type=A ubuntu.com
[16:28] <jpmh> leftyfb: there is no output other than the error: nslookup: couldn't get address for 'ubuntu.com': failure
[16:29] <jpmh> leftyfb: and that is on STDERR
[16:30] <leftyfb> lets narrow it down. Can you temporarily replace 127.0.0.53 in resolv.conf with 8.8.8.8
[16:30] <jpmh> leftyfb:will do - brb
[16:31] <jpmh> leftyfb:with that - all is fine
[16:31] <leftyfb> ok, so systemd-resolved is acting up
[16:32] <jpmh> realistically, I could live with that if I understood it - there should be VERY few lookups on that machine - it is a server
[16:32] <jpmh> leftyfb:OK - so - how do we find how it is acting up
[16:32] <leftyfb> it's not a fix, it's a hack to help troubleshoot
[16:33] <jpmh> leftyfb:right - on the not a fix - but it does "sort of work:
[16:33] <leftyfb> jpmh: start looking at the systemd-journald log:   journalctl --since "24 hours" systemd-journald
[16:33] <leftyfb> jpmh: maybe add "-f" to following it while trying to resolve things
[16:35] <leftyfb> s/following/follow
[16:35] <leftyfb> sorry, working at the moment as well
[16:36] <jpmh> leftyfb:now I am out of my depth even more - how do I do that, when I entered journalctl --since "...: I get an error , what do I need as the value in the quotes
[16:36] <leftyfb> jpmh: journalctl -f --since "24 hours" -u systemd-journald
[16:36] <leftyfb> sorry ... it's tough responding to lots of people at once :)
[16:38] <jpmh> leftyfb: I get the error: Failed to parse timestamp: 24 hours
[16:38] <leftyfb> ugh
[16:38] <leftyfb> jpmh: journalctl -f --since "24 hours ago" -u systemd-journald
[16:39] <leftyfb> jpmh: if you're running a server, you should really learn these commands or how to read it's man page
[16:39] <jpmh> leftyfb: that "ago" was what I needed - ty - now reading the otput - will come back when I either understand or need more help
[16:40] <jpmh> leftyfb: we are actually running over 1200 servers.  Never had this issue or anything like it before
[16:41] <leftyfb> jpmh: all the more reason
[16:42] <jpmh> leftyfb:so https://pastebin.com/zViyEWs7 - I see nothing of interest - am I missing something - I would add that DNS was fine this time yesterday - seems to have started failing on this server last night Colorado time
[16:42] <jpmh> leftyfb:and the reason we like ubuntu is that generally we do not need to worry about things like this.  IT JUST WORKS!
[16:42] <pepee_> hi. how come chromium (from the chromium-browser package) has not been updated since march in ubuntu 18.04?
[16:44] <leftyfb> !info chromium-browser | pepee_
[16:44] <leftyfb> hm
[16:44] <pepee_> it was made a snap package in 20.04
[16:45] <pepee_> there are some (very) public 1-day vulnerabilities that affect the current version
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium-browser bionic
[16:46] <leftyfb> pepee_: The latest apt package in bionic is  89.0.4389.90 which was released 1 month ago. The latest snap is 90.0.4430.72-1 which was released 6 days ago
[16:47] <pepee_> I know, I'm not going to use the snap package, but I'm using ubuntu bionic
[16:47] <pepee_> *kubuntu
[16:48] <leftyfb> jpmh: ugh
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> pepee_: there will always be 0day exploits for any app on any Os, but do you have info/resources on the security flaw you found?
[16:48] <leftyfb> jpmh: journalctl -f --since "24 hours ago" -u systemd-resolved
[16:49] <pepee_> lotuspsychje https://threatpost.com/chrome-zero-day-exploit-twitter/165363/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/second-google-chrome-zero-day-exploit-dropped-on-twitter-this-week/
[16:49] <pepee_> *at least two...
[16:50] <pepee_> guess I'll have to install chromium from other distro. looks like mint does have an updated version in their repos
[16:50] <jpmh> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/aKbiQvwp
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> pepee_: im sure the -hardened guys are aware, but feel free to doublecheck in #ubuntu-hardened
[16:51] <pepee_> thanks lotuspsychje
[16:51] <jpmh> BTW leftyfb should I be resetting that conf file to the 127.0.0.53 from the 8.8.8.8 that we set?
[16:56] <kristian_on_linu> cheers
[16:56] <kristian_on_linu> like the dope I am, I typed "apt install gimp gap" instead of "gimp-gap" ... I then did "apt purge gap" and "gap-*", but there is still some stuff that I'd love to get rid of. Help?
[16:58] <leftyfb> jpmh: oh right, yes. In order to watch it realtime to diagnose, yes
[16:58] <hggdh> kristian_on_linu: if the other packages installed are not being used, then sudo apt --purge autoremove will take them out
[16:58] <kristian_on_linu> thanks, hggdh ... seems there is still more, though
[16:59] <jpmh> leftyfb:will set it back then - so, given the pastebin what is the next step here?
[17:00] <kristian_on_linu> luatex, for instance ... I'm pretty sure it is not part of a standard ubuntu install (which I made yesterday)
[17:00] <leftyfb> jpmh: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/432077   follow that, put resolv.conf back, run the follow command I posted above and in another terminal run some queries and lets see what shows up
[17:01] <jpmh> leftyfb:on  it - will report back shortly - ty
[17:02] <kristian_on_linu> plenty of weird tex packages, which is not good as I will eventually install full texlive
[17:08] <jpmh> leftyfb:when I follow the steps you suggest it tells me that there is no file when I try and do the edit, is that OK?
[17:08] <leftyfb> jpmh: create one
[17:14] <jpmh> leftyfb: file created as specified - resolve restarted - and in another wndow I did dig google.com, the output from the journalctl -u systemd-resolved -f is in https://pastebin.com/3ffhSLm6
[17:17] <jpmh> leftyfb:I would point out that even though the system says that resolve is running port 53 on the local server does not seem to respond
[17:18] <leftyfb> jpmh: sudo lsof -i :53
[17:18] <leftyfb> pastebin please
[17:20] <jpmh> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/6wq0uDLm
[17:20] <leftyfb> jpmh: you forgot the :
[17:21] <jpmh> lefty - let me try that again, I think I missed a :
[17:23] <jpmh> leftyfb:the correct info at https://pastebin.com/Tz2iZnGK
[17:25] <leftyfb> jpmh: ok, problem #1, you're missing your hosts entry in /etc/hosts
[17:25] <jpmh> leftyfb:the hosts file has not been touched for a long time
[17:26] <leftyfb> jpmh: it should look like this: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/gB68jfqDMv/
[17:26] <jpmh> leftyfb:the last edit date is March 20 LAST YEAR!
[17:27] <leftyfb> jpmh: the other possibility: ifconfig   # do you have a "lo" interface with an ip of 127.0.0.1 ?
[17:28] <jpmh> leftyfb:I did add the line to the hosts file - no idea who and why it was removed last year
[17:29] <leftyfb> jpmh: that's why your sudo commands were getting "sudo: unable to resolve host another9: Resource temporarily unavailable"
[17:29] <leftyfb> among other issues
[17:30] <leftyfb> jpmh: maybe restart systemd-journald and see if it might be fixed
[17:30] <jpmh> leftyfb:yes - I do have an lo with 127.0.0.1 when I run ifconfig
[17:30] <jpmh> leftyfb:and realistically - the systems are so stable that we never need to run sudo commands usually - but it is better now that the line is there of course
[17:31] <leftyfb> jpmh: machines are never "so stable that we never need to run sudo commands" ... not for long anyway
[17:31] <jpmh> leftyfb:restarted and no better
[17:32] <leftyfb> jpmh: ok, so why did you say earlier that systemd-resolved isn't listening on port 53? lsof shows it is
[17:33] <jpmh> leftyfb:I said did not seem to be listening since on all other servers I can telnet 127.0.0.1 53 and talk to it = on this machine it times out, same with 127.0.0.53
[17:34] <leftyfb> jpmh: can you ping 127.0.0.53?
[17:34] <jpmh> leftyfb: in fact I just cheked iptables since thinking about it that is the symptom - but no entry there
[17:35] <Intelo> I have dell m6700 laptop, my Display port is not working (no signal on monitory when plugged multiple DP cables) . How can I check if its a hardware problem?
[17:35] <leftyfb> jpmh: can you temporarily flush iptables to see if it resolves without it?
[17:35] <jpmh> leftyfb:good idea - stand by
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: journalctl -f in realtime to debug things when testing around
[17:36] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: maybe also dmesg -Tw
[17:37] <Intelo> lotuspsychje: ok..
[17:37] <Intelo> but while I do that, the DP won't show anything (as no signals)
[17:37] <Intelo> so I cant see the output
[17:39] <jpmh> leftyfb:YEP - there was apparently something in the iptables
[17:39] <jpmh> leftyfb:TY SO MUCH, for your patience and help.  I really do appreciate it.  ANother reason to love ubunto - the commuity
[17:39] <Intelo> How to get drivers for Display port?
[17:39] <leftyfb> jpmh: -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
[17:40] <jpmh> leftyfb:OH yes - iptables I do understand, sadly, :)
[17:41] <jpmh> anyway, TY SO MUCH - now I can reward myself, although really leftyb desrves it, with a lunch.  :)
[17:54] <Intelo> How to get drivers for Display port? < from command line (though I have gui) but using awesome
[17:58] <Intelo> lotuspsychje: Is this correct? secondly how to get this via commandline? (need to know the app name that I can type on terminal. I do have GUI thought but awesome window manager) https://imgur.com/qAH7Ngx.png
[23:40] <mattfly> what is wrong with timeshift. I uninstalled it, tried to stop it and it still had this huge /run/timeshift folder
[23:41] <mattfly> i deleted it and now i lost some files
[23:41] <mattfly> how to properly uninstall timeshift?
[23:44] <sarnold> masber: "Remember to delete all snapshots before un-installing. Otherwise the snapshots continue to occupy space on your system. To delete all snapshots, run the application, select all snapshots from the list (CTRL+A) and click the Delete button on the toolbar. This will delete all snapshots and remove the /timeshift folder in the root directory." https://github.com/teejee2008/timeshift
[23:44] <sarnold> masber: sorry, that was meant for mattfly :(
[23:49] <mattfly> they could have added a remove hook for doing that