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 point of interest - see last comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1925221
[15:41] <guiverc> @Leokolb, if I recall correctly, Eickmeyer mentioned this on this channel.
[15:41] <guiverc> "Apr 15 12:09:34 <Eickmeyer[m]>  One of my projects for next release is uncoupling the Qt version of Ubiquity from Kubuntu, i.e. creating configuration packages. High hopes, but whatev."
[15:42] <guiverc> note: timestamp maybe my local time..  (aest)
 tks ..must have slipped my mind. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> @Leokolb, if I recall correctly, Eickmeyer mentioned this on this channel.)
[15:52] <guiverc> its dead easy to miss stuff  (is for me anyway...)
[16:11] <kgiii> I have family showing up today. I may not make it to this weeks meeting.
[16:12] <kc2bez[m]> No worries, thanks for all your help in testing kgiii I won't have much other than today is release day.
[16:14] <kgiii> I'll stop by this evening. I'd have nothing to add to the meeting except to say that I did the same things I always do.
[16:17] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks again kgiii 
[16:21] <kgiii> You're welcome. Hmm... My obligation is over. I committed to testing the entirety of the 21.04 cycle. I've learned a lot, thanks! If y'all will have me, I'll be happy to do the same thing for 21.10.
[16:27] <kc2bez[m]> kgiii: We would love to have your continued help!
[16:29] <kgiii> Then I will commit to testing the entirety of 21.10 and we'll see where we go from there. Someone should let me know when the first 21.10 daily image drops. I'll keep an eye out for it.
[16:30] <kc2bez[m]> Sounds good.
[17:10] <kgiii> Update: I can be here for the meeting. The granddaughter is not feeling well, so we've pushed it off until tomorrow.
[18:00] <guiverc> kgiii, can I ask you to look over https://docs.google.com/document/d/172GmaCIEFExphMBs7PD6ZDHoG-YD1g9I0CJJaviXO9Y/edit if you get a chance... putting yourself in the eyes of a 18.04/LXDE user ... anything missing, could be said better etc..   (it won't be pretty; the pretty version is on discourse but in staff section you don't have access to sorry)
[18:01] <kgiii> Gimme a few minutes.
[18:02] <guiverc> no hurry... 4am here and I'd rather be in bed (doing release stuff; ubuntu news)
[18:03]  * guiverc just got the review I was after... will be in bed very shortly too
 I will have our blog post up shortly.
[18:04] <guiverc> thanks kc2bez[m] 
 https://lubuntu.me/hirsute-released/
[18:06] <guiverc> were you going to add to discourse, or want me?
 If you don't mind adding it that would be great.
 I updated the downloads page too.
[18:08]  * guiverc as long as fb isn't involved..
 I don't do facebook either so no worries on that.
[18:09] <kgiii> The only thing I can think of adding is that there will be no support at AU as well. You mention that Lubuntu will no longer support it and may want to mention AU as well, because many users go there for support. Other than that, it looks pretty good. @guiverc
[18:10] <guiverc> I wasn't worried about askubu... I only post an FYI on flavors after 3 year mark, but don't close-vote them.. some folks on askubu do support flavors past the 3 year EOL mark
[18:11] <kgiii> Their new policy/clarified policy is pretty clear that it shouldn't be supported there.
[18:12] <guiverc> okay.. I'd not taken notice of that..  I'll have to look
[18:12] <kgiii> https://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/19575/policy-clarifications-in-place-on-end-of-standard-support-and-end-of-life?cb=1
[18:13] <kgiii> (See the linked topic as well, if you need more info.)
[18:17] <guiverc> discourse 21.04 notice... some highlights taken from blog, but points to official notice (twice)
[18:19] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks guiverc !
[18:20] <kgiii> Sweet!
[18:20] <guiverc> thanks kgiii appreciated !
[18:22] <guiverc> fyi: I'm happy to leave askubu off still.  (I still see the EOL notice as being the 5 year; ESM covered questions more than flavors)
[18:23] <kgiii> I have no personal investment in the notice. So, I don't mind either way.
[18:25] <kc2bez[m]> Looks like torrents are currently having some woes. 
[18:28] <kgiii> I could grab the torrent and seed it, but I have pretty slow upload speeds.
[18:29] <kgiii> Also, is it possible to turn a beta install into a regular install? And, it'd be pretty awesome if I could just use apt to get to the next daily version during testing. That'd be pretty darned sweet.
[18:30] <kc2bez[m]> You can just update the beta with apt and it turns into the current release.
[18:30] <guiverc> via normal updates; a alpha becomes beta, becomes released install.. use neofetch and you'll note I bet the (development) has already gone
[18:30] <kc2bez[m]> You don't need to re-install.
[18:31] <kc2bez[m]> The torrent issue is noted by the release team and they are working on it.
[18:32] <kgiii> Nice. I did not know that. 
[18:32] <kgiii> See? I'm still learning new stuff. That's why I like doing this.
[18:33] <kc2bez[m]> Absolutely, I never seem to stop learning stuff here either.
[18:33] <guiverc> :)  & me too... 
[18:38] <kgiii> If I'd known that I could just apt upgrade I'd have installed it on a box and done some testing that way. Ah well... There's still 21.10 to test. 
 ok 21.04 should be  on the stable branch on the maunal now
 Thank you @lynorian
 and right now I notice a typo
 Doesn't it always work that way XD
[20:28] <krytarik> Is there a specific possibly LTS-y reason btw why the channel topic both here and on #lubuntu still refer to 20.04 rather than the last release?  Otherwise, I'd update them for the new one..
[20:30] <kc2bez[m]> If you can update it that would be greatly appreciated krytarik 
[20:30] <kc2bez[m]> wxl is our channel op and I don't think he is available right now.
[20:30] <krytarik> Alright.
 Congrats on the release. My apologies for not doing any testing this cycle, had a few changes in UM that required more of my time this cycle.
[20:43] <guiverc> Thanks krytarik & thanks @franksmcb (no need to apolgize re: time.. testing this cycle was well covered thanks esp. to @Leokolb & kgiii)
[20:45] <kgiii> And I've already decided to do it again for the next release!
[20:50] <guiverc> :)   ps:  I'll be sending you a PM late today or tomorrow kgiii 
[20:50] <kgiii> Thanks for the warning!
 I'll echo guiverc, you are always willing to help when we need it. Congratulations to the Mate team as well. (re @franksmcb: Congrats on the release. My apologies for not doing any testing this cycle, had a few changes in UM that required more of my time this cycle.)
 😀
[21:08] <kgiii> Are we having a meeting, or should I just drink celebratory wine by myself?
 I'm here, I have a couple of items left on my list to finish up but cheers kgiii
[21:14] <kgiii> Well, that wine ain't gonna drink itself - I'm gonna!
 Nice. There is cause to celebrate. For the record, thanks to everyone for another great release!
 And big thanks to you as well Dan! (re @kc2bez: Nice. There is cause to celebrate. For the record, thanks to everyone for another great release!)
[22:41] <guiverc> I do so agree @Leokolb, you're a great help & force behind Lubuntu Dan/ kc2bez[m]   (it is a team effort)