[00:00] that might tell you the pointpoint, or "legacy" [00:01] Value - Source - [00:01] so ... is it a zvol? [00:02] zfs get type rpool/keystore [00:02] if it says "volume", then it's a volume, not a dataset [00:02] ... You would be correct... it's apparently a zvol [00:03] probably contains either raw data, or a filesystem [00:04] iirc ext4 [00:08] maybe you can run file on it to identify [00:09] could be a luks container for example :) [00:13] haha, when trying to mount the zvol "uknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS' [00:35] so I have given up on the GTX 470. I removed it. I updated my video card drivers to the latest and now the audio off the motherboard isn't working. [00:41] sneakyimp: quite a lot of audio things can be sorted by running pavucontrol and clicking around a bit .. I hope this one's easier :) [00:49] sarnold: thanks yet again! my system doesn't recognize pavucontrol from CLI...is that a package i should install? i can hear a bit of a click when i try to play a sound but nothing comes out...sounds like something turns the circuitry on but the software doesn't end up sending any audio to it [00:50] system recognizes the device, just won't play any sound. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QpCq79ct43/ [00:51] sneakyimp: it's in package pavucontrol [00:52] Looks like the recovery key feature isn't working properly... the LUKS2 header shows only a single key for the encrypted device, and the 16 digit "recovery key" is not being accepted as a passphrase. [00:53] sneakyimp: there's a lot of layers going on at once.. there's alsa, the kernel interface; there's pulseaudio, a layer above alsa; there's also whatever applications you're using; they all have to be set up right [00:54] the bar graphs in the audio control panels show the level jumping up and down (i'm playing a video) but the sound doesn't come out. i've tested the speakers by playing my iphone thru the connector cable [00:55] woodonia: Don't listen to xkcd. He has some of the worst takes on things. For a password, what you ought to do is instead of remembering a password, you remember an algorythm that depending on the application, website, login, etc, that password changes. [00:55] that doens't work great for disk unlocking :) [00:56] sneakyimp: the 'usual' fix is that you'll find audio is set to come out your hdmi port rather than speaker port -- or vice versa :) [00:56] sarnold: Just brute force it. [00:56] True - I mostly just use keepass with lots of entropy (for almost everything)... but for this I figured it'd be good [00:56] sarnold: pavucontrol has hdmi as "off" and shows the bar graph leaping for the Line Out (plugged in) device [00:57] You used I'm guessing 3 words, like "FroggingStaplerCrack" [00:57] Done a lot of learning on ZFS, LUKS, etc. :) [00:57] kill-animals 4 - and I know it came to 25 characters... 99% certain on 19 of the characters [00:58] woodonia: Give xfs a try. It is killing it in the latest benchmarks, well ahead of zfs [00:58] I'll take a look at it! [00:58] woodonia: Well there you go. [00:59] oh wow, if you're *that* close tothe password, yeah, brute-forcing it is a real possibility :) [00:59] ^ [00:59] That actually sounds like a good interview question [01:00] Definitely... but I still think that if the ubiquti installer gave me a recovery key... which I saved... I should be able to recover using it... but no dice so far :) [01:01] woodonia: Can you program? [01:01] Nope... pharmacist by trade. I just goof around on computers [01:01] I wish I could, though. I like FLOSS [01:02] woodonia: What kind of programming would you like to learn? [01:04] My thought is always python - seems to be the most "intro" one, but bash scripting is what i've tinkered around with the most [01:06] woodonia: Python ironically is probably the worst intro language to learn. Speaking from experience. It was memed as `print "easiest language for an intro to programming"` because that is all it took to write your first hello world program. [01:07] hahahaha === Leenux8 is now known as Leenux [01:09] The biggest reason is that just about everything you learn in python, you will have to unlearn, because nothing is transferable to any other language. The syntax is unique, every programming technique has a "pythonic way" completely different from the C languages, and its slow. [01:10] IDLE always seemed slow... I've been trying to teach myself emacs as well, and was thinking about perl or lisp [01:10] woodonia: For emacs, you do realize that bash is running in emacs mode by default, right? [01:11] its a good way to start. Thats how I got into Vim, by switching the terminal to `set -o vi` [01:11] Yup. I taught myself (basic) vim... and then really fell in love with the possibilities of org-mode [01:12] woodonia: A lot of people swear by perl. I think its fine to learn. [01:12] I tried vimwiki and taskwarrior... but then found spacemacs, which is pretty great. It's a bit cumbersome, so I was trying to learn how to make emacs into spacemacs... with only the features I wanted... but that's really hard :) [01:12] I tend to think the strictly proper way is to start with C, and graduate to Qt/C++ for higher level programming. [01:13] woodonia: Spacemacs? Sounds cool [01:13] its off topic. You can come into #sqt if you want to discuss it more. [01:34] hey people! [01:34] any idea when xubuntu 21.04 will be released? [01:36] 'thursay' [01:37] which depending upon where you are, might be today or tomorrow [01:37] I've just bought a new ssd for my laptop and don't see the point in installing on it when a new version coming out soon [01:37] yeah, I'm in AU, so it's the 22nd today :) [01:38] sarnold, do they tend to push it out the same as upstream, or is there a delay? (I've never tried to get a distro on the exact day, but the above reason dictates it :) ) === alloy_alloy_allo is now known as alloy [01:40] alloy: there's no real 'upstream' here, ubuntu is entirely freestanding for this sort of thing [01:40] alloy: debian release schedules are more or less entirely unconnected to ubuntu release schedules [01:41] sarnold, ah, yeah thanks. I understand the first line - that's good. Not sure about the second line re: debian though, how's that relevant? [01:41] was it just an fyi? === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:57] Hello Everyone, coming to irc after a bit. I have ubuntu 18.04 trying to figure out my thunderbolt generation and also why it is not connecting to a display using thunderbolt. [02:03] alloy You could use the latest daily release candidate, and it'll just update to normal in a few days === Guest95977 is now known as catalase [04:23] Is it possible to give a mouse and keyboard to each desktop? I have multiple monitors and want to plug multiple keyboards/mice and make each person control his own desktop screen. (Kind of multi seat) ? [04:41] Intelo: sure buy why [04:42] hi all. I'm trying to run Thunderbird on startup, but minimized or in the backgroud. Point is to check mail right away without it being "in my face". I tried a mini startup script "sleep 20 && ; thunderbird --headless", but that doesn't seem to even start TB. I found a recommended addon "Firetray". But it's not supported on my version and I'd rather not start downgrading. Any suggestions? [04:42] Intelo: multiseat, LTSP, or just a custom X config [04:43] matsaman: can you elaborate? what are you pointing at? [04:44] those are terminologies. I want to know about implmentation [04:44] Intelo: if you look for 'multiseat' you will find what you want [04:44] LTSP is all about it [04:44] matsaman: I already did [04:45] viktor_: something like this maybe: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-start-applications-minimized.html [04:45] Intelo: gj [04:45] matsaman: and it requires multiple head based GPU. I want to do "seat per desktop:" [04:45] no it doesn't require multiple GPUs [04:46] ok.. [04:47] so if you see documentation on how to do this that says you need multiple GPUs, that's the wrong documentation [04:55] matsaman: then it would always start minimized. maybe i'm nitpicking. [05:59] HELP. In trying to get my video card drivers in order, I nearly nuked my workstation. I had to use boot-repair and now I get no grub boot menu when i start up -- the Windows 10 boot has disappeared. Here's the paste from boot-repair: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kYR8MsgB4Y/ === jgrim95 is now known as jgrim9 [06:26] sneakyimp: whats the actual problem ur trying to resolve right now. === jgrim91 is now known as jgrim9 === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [07:05] TheBigK02: i have a dual boot machine. it stopped booting today while i was trying to resolve a video card problem. I booted to an ubuntu live disk and ran boot-repair and this has restored my ability to boot to ubuntu 20.04, but the windows 10 boot doesn't appear as an option at boot. no grub menu. if i hold down shift key to get grub menu, there's no windows option [07:05] TheBigK02: I think the windows boot is on sda [07:07] did u run update-grub already? [07:07] it should detect ur windows installation [07:09] TheBigK02: yes, I did [07:09] sneakyimp: are u using UEFI? [07:09] TheBigK02: I'm not sure what that is supposed to do, or what preparation I might need to do before running it. it looks like ubuntu has trouble reading the contents of sda [07:10] sneakyimp: are u able to mount ur windows partition ? [07:10] TheBigK02: to be honest, i'm not sure about UEFI. I think there's a bios option where I can select windows uefi or 'other os' [07:11] TheBigK02: i'm not sure if I'm properly mounting it. I open the file browser, click 'other locations' and sda appears as '1.0 TB Volume' [07:11] i click that and it says Folder is Empty [07:12] TheBigK02: it does appear to be mounted, though: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yPBXwMqxV3/ [07:13] sudo mokutil --sb-state <- what is replied there? [07:16] TheBigK02: ok gonna try that...in the meantime, some fdisk output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/n6FSgtQmhq/ [07:17] TheBigK02: `sudo mokutil --sb-state` yields 'EFI variables are not supported on this system' [07:17] :( [07:18] why sad... so ur using BIOS and not UEFI [07:19] TheBigK02: here's the update-grub output...nothing special https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/b9tqdys78m/ [07:20] oki... im actually not quite sure how update-grub detects windows on BIOS... since ur partitons are fine, it should be fairly easy to be fixed [07:21] TheBigK02: so should i try boot-repair again? This looks sort of appropriate...the 'repair windows boot files' bit and 'place the boot flag on XX' https://askubuntu.com/questions/217904/unable-to-boot-into-windows-after-installing-ubuntu-how-to-fix/921722#921722 [07:22] since ur already in a running linux system, i dont think its necessary... [07:22] TheBigK02: if you inspect the pastebin from the first boot-repair attempt, you'll see that it says "The default repair of the Boot-Repair utility will purge (in order to unsign) and reinstall the grub2 of sdb6 into the MBRs of all disks (except live-disks and removable disks without OS). " [07:22] first boot-repair pastebin here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kYR8MsgB4Y/ [07:23] I'm on Ubunt 16.x and have an external SATA hdd which is connected via a USB adapter cable. How can I make the external hdd bootable and use it to install Ubuntu 20.10 to the internal hdd? [07:24] saunders: you should upgrade to something newer, but i think the instructions for a 'USB stick' would also apply to a USB drive https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#1-overview [07:24] yes. I'd expect that dd-ing the iso would work [07:25] because it's such an old OS, however, cannot install software [07:25] cbreak: yes, that was my thought. Not sure how to do that, however. [07:26] TheBigK02: not sure what you mean to suggest about 'already runningin a linux system' -- if boot-repair is the wrong approach, i haven't got any clue how to try and repair this [07:26] saunders: u can either do a reinstall or also an upgrade. both options are there [07:27] sneakyimp: im not sure if u want to boot into a livesystem again or run boot-repair on ur right now running system [07:27] what does sudo os-prober print ? [07:27] I'm downloading the ISO. Use dd to write to the external (USB/SATA) hdd? then just boot from USB? [07:27] saunders: that's the general idea [07:27] saunders: thats the way.. but be aware that the dd will overwrite ur partitions. all data is lost [07:28] normally one would use usb SSDs for this [07:28] in stick form [07:28] but spinning actual disks should work the same [07:28] well, slower of course... but... [07:29] TheBigK02: is it safe to run boot-repair from my workstation ubuntu? it's very precious to me. [07:30] dd is also referred as disk destroyer ;D [07:31] sneakyimp: i do not have much experience with this utility.. but since u ran it i dont think u can break more when u run it again :D [07:31] sneakyimp: can u run os-prober and see what it prints? [07:31] sneakyimp: no windows in sight? [07:32] TheBigK02: a moot point i guess...the 'Repair windows boot files' option is greyed out [07:33] sneakyimp: urghs... did u do weird things to ur windows partition with this utility? i wouldnt do that... ur windows shouldnt be touched from ur linux... unless u have no other choice [07:34] TheBigK02: the command os-prober doesn't seem to to a thing on my machine === nckx is now known as raghavgururajan9 === raghavgururajan9 is now known as nckx [07:35] TheBigK02: sudo os-prober returns nothing at all [07:36] i would give it a shot by just adding those lines manually for now: [07:36] https://pastebin.info/?1e7535551dfcce2f#FSzpoJixu98oLob3vkRXfanUkmZtExMGig8xijbm4vKj [07:36] u might need to adjust the hd line [07:37] since i dont know in which drive u have ur windows installation [07:37] i *think* windows is on sda [07:37] where does that pastebin go? [07:37] then 0 is fine [07:38] i just got those lines out of /usr/share/doc/grub2-common/examples/grub.cfg [07:38] u can copy paste the windows part there and put it manually in the grub.cfg [07:39] be aware that update-grub will overwrite that file again [07:39] its just a test if that windows boots [07:39] i'm no grub jockey [07:39] you mean i should add that snip to /boot/grub/grub.cfg? [07:39] yes [07:41] TheBigK02: grub.cfg is a big file...put it at the beginning? the end? somewhere in particular? [07:41] depends where u want that menuentry [07:42] check for the section where those menuentries are [07:42] and there u add at the end [07:44] ok there's only one main menuentry -- Ubuntu -- but it has a submenu with menuentry items that follow [07:44] u put that below of that [07:45] i think grub.cfg is fairly straight forward. i believe u can make that work :) [07:45] after that u reboot and u should find that menu entry in that grub and see if that boots ur windows [07:46] TheBigK02: thanks. bbiab. wish me luck [07:47] how, specifically, is dd used to write the Ubuntu ISO to an external hdd? │ [07:47] │(00:35:56) sneakyimp: TheBigK02: sudo os-prober returns nothing at all │ [07:47] │(00:36:36) TheBigK02: i would give it a shot by just adding those lines manually for now: │ [07:47] │(00:36:38) TheBigK02: https://pastebin.info/?1e7535551dfcce2f#FSzpoJixu98oLob3vkRXfanUkmZtExMGig8xijbm4vKj │ [07:47] │(00:36:57) TheBigK02: u might need to adjust the hd line │ [07:47] │(00:37:07) TheBigK02: since i dont know in which drive u have ur windows installation │ [07:47] │(00:37:27) sneakyimp: i *think* windows is on sda │ [07:48] Does anyone know if uninstalling snapd will break anything in my system? I see that "gnome-3-28-1804", "gnome-3-34-1804" and "gtk-common-themes" are installed through snap. Are they important for the default Ubuntu 20.04 shell? [07:49] larkfisherman: there are only essential for everything related to snap [07:49] larkfisherman: why would u want to remove snapd tho [07:55] TheBigK02: no dice with grub.cfg change. The "Microsoft Windows" menu option was there, but selecting it just yield "no such partition...press any key to continue" [07:55] okay. then the hd section has to change [07:55] lets see if we can find that out [07:56] also, i had to hold down the shift key to get the boot menu...i'd like to make it display automatically for five seconds [07:58] u change /etc/default/grub for that [07:58] GRUB_TIMEOUT is the variable for that [07:58] and then u run update-grub. that would also remove that manually added windows section [07:59] GRUB_TIMEOUT is already 10 [07:59] GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden [07:59] i think that's a problem [08:00] what's the problem you're having? [08:00] you're making a custom windows entry? [08:00] EriC^^: trying to get my lost windows boot back [08:01] it was working, you installed ubuntu now its gone? [08:01] what's the backstory :D [08:03] EriC^^: scroll up. he did some stuff with video cards and then he ran boot-repair [08:03] and then his windows disappeared from the grub. but its mountable [08:03] hes using BIOS and im not quite sure how the detection of windows is done there [08:03] so i thought giving a manual entry a shot... but that seemed to be the wrong partition [08:03] EriC^^: windows 10 installed first, long ago as a baby windows 7. maybe uefi? I installed ubuntu years ago and they lived happily side by side. i installed new video card this week and was trying to get it to play nice with other video card but ubuntu says NO and so i have to remove other video card and then computer stops booting entirely after getting new video card drivers installed. so i run boot-repair and ub [08:03] ery important) but windows is gone gone [08:04] but the precious windows 10 with all the old precious legacy software needs to come back [08:04] alright, checking the boot-repair log [08:05] EriC^^: thank you! [08:07] no worries [08:08] sneakyimp: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' it'll paste the output and give you a link, share it here please [08:08] EriC^^: FYI I tried a second run at boot-repair to see if we could check the box for 'Repair Windows boot files' and cannot, it's greyed out [08:09] Eric^^: https://termbin.com/4003 [08:10] sneakyimp: which hdd has windows, the 3tb one or 1.5tb? [08:10] Eric^^: pretty sure windows on sda, linux on sdb, and the sdc and sdd are data storage and backup drives [08:10] eek [08:11] the larger drives are newer ones [08:12] sneakyimp: hmm that sounds bad, somehow the filesystem says fat32, it should be ntfs [08:12] anyways, try 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt' [08:12] EriC^^: as i mentioned before, this computer was originally windows 7. that drive might be 10 years old? [08:13] ok sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt run [08:13] i want to say this emptiness there is a new development [08:13] i hope it's some odd mistake, i sincerely doubt it used fat32 [08:14] sneakyimp: try "ls -l /mnt" what do you see? [08:14] today's experience strongly smacks of data corruption [08:14] Eric^^: that ls command says 'total 0' :'( [08:15] maybe windows was on the 3tb one? [08:15] sneakyimp: try 'sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sdc2 /mnt' [08:17] Eric^^: question: will that have any effect on how these drives usually get mounted? [08:17] sdc, i'm nearly certain, is mostly a data drive [08:18] yeah it's 99.9% likely so, try sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt instead [08:18] well, would it be acceptable to just click on these drives in the file explorer and have it mount them that way? [08:19] tbh it's also very likely since it lacks a 'boot' flag on the partition, just tryint to cover all grounds [08:19] sneakyimp: sure go for it [08:20] Eric^^: ok sdc2 and sdd1 are mounted in their usual fashion: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5sKf8WwFH6/ [08:25] Eric^^: neither sdc2 nor sdd1 have a windows OS installed on them, but i wouldn't be surprised if one or two of them somehow got a boot record or something on them. I've been easing this machine forward for years...swapping out drives and stuff. [08:26] sneakyimp: do you have a backup of sda? [08:27] EriC^^: No. IIRC, it would just have the OS on it and the applications. I kept data on sdc, and occasionally copied that data to sdd for redundancy [08:27] sdb is a rather new SSD drive on which Ubuntu is installed [08:28] drive sdc is typically a share space for both windows and ubuntu. [08:28] i see, try 'sudo apt-get install testdisk' [08:28] ok we have testdisk [08:29] at this point, it looks like somehow a fresh fat32 filesystem was written over sda, somehow [08:29] if you're lucky, the partition of windows maybe was further down the disk and wasnt affected much by the write, or at least you might be able to copy important files from it easily [08:30] sneakyimp: type 'sudo testdisk /dev/sda' [08:30] ok, having typed that, being prompted to 'select a media' [08:31] only one option -- /dev/sda....shall i proceed? [08:31] yeah [08:31] is this something like gparted? [08:31] i.e., gonna take awhile? [08:31] nah, it'll just quickly look for lost partitions [08:32] Eric^^: it sayeth "EFI GPT paritition table has been detected" [08:32] go for "Intel" instead of the default efi gpt [08:32] is this decision irreversible? i'd bet my right arm i had UEFI turned on at some point [08:33] ok 1 sec [08:33] yes everything is reversible, we're not actually writing anything at this point, but earlier, you had ubuntu and windows living happily you said right? [08:33] windows showed up in grub and booted from there? [08:34] yes ubuntu came after windows, so the grub menu was ubuntu's doing i believe [08:34] default was ubuntu [08:34] very fast boot [08:34] and was windows in the grub menu of ubuntu? [08:34] option for 'windows boot loader' or something like that [08:34] yes [08:34] aha great [08:34] so you still want me to choose intel? [08:34] type 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' in ubuntu, does it show files or say file not found [08:35] well we're still in test disk? [08:35] open another terminal for that... [08:35] open another terminal if possible [08:35] ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory [08:35] tried sudo as well [08:36] aha, that means that ubuntu is not actually using uefi [08:36] so likely windows was using legacy as well if it showed up in grub [08:36] that jibes with an earlier command: $ sudo mokutil --sb-state [08:36] EFI variables are not supported on this system [08:37] so in TestDisk, i shall go ahead with 'Intel' option, yes? [08:37] rather than EFI GPT? [08:37] yeah [08:37] prompted for analyze/advanced/geometry/options/mbr code/delete/quit [08:37] i think til now, likely something wrote a fresh gpt partition to sda instead of its old msdos partition table, and made a fresh single fat32 [08:38] analyse? [08:38] yeah go for analyse [08:38] then hit quick search [08:38] Eric^^: that sounds perfectly feasible -- i suspect it might have been boot-repair that did so [08:39] nah, i dont think it can even do such a thing, plus i think you'd have been using boot-repair cause it already wasnt booting(?) [08:39] ok quick search yields one partition: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6cw2q59q2c/ [08:40] sneakyimp: press enter, then try to run a deep search [08:40] doing so [08:41] Eric^^: this will take a good long while [08:41] are any interesting partitions showing up? [08:41] there are two identical lines, FAT32 LBA 0 32 33 121601 blah blah [08:42] ok [08:42] no additional ones yet, but search is slow [08:42] we've only just reached 1% [08:42] dang [08:43] i wonder if windows usually partitions the same for all win7 installs and we could just try mounting the main os fs location [08:44] you know, it wouldn't suprise me if the windows OS was on this sda drive, but the boot records somewhere else [08:44] do you happen to have an old gparted screenshot or parted output by any chance? [08:44] Eric^^: I doubt it....will sniff around [08:48] sneakyimp: try 'sudo parted /dev/sdc unit s print | nc termbin.com 9999' [08:50] https://termbin.com/kan2 [08:55] sneakyimp: try 'sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount -o offset=$((264192 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt' [08:55] oh hang on... [08:56] that will try to mount any fs at that location, in case it had one there like sdc has [08:56] what did we mount previously at /mnt? [08:56] sda1 iirc [08:56] ls -l /mnt yields one dir [08:56] boot-sav [08:57] df /mnt should show whats mounted [08:57] that's the log of boot-repair i think [08:58] interestin... [08:59] that mount command yields: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pgjj9Y4v6S/ [08:59] since the last kernel update (70 -> 72) my kubuntu 18.04 can no longer connect to certain CIFS shares (all of them DFS) [08:59] might have something to do with this change that was already reverted upstream: https://patches.linaro.org/patch/420089/ [09:01] sneakyimp: ah, nevermind then [09:04] EriC^^: I am truly grateful for your kind assistance. It's 2AM here. I'm going to have to stop for the evening (insomniac wife reasons) [09:05] Eric^^: should anything occur to you, i posted on a forum: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1333096/computer-stopped-booting-ran-boot-repair-no-grub-menu-windows-10-option-gone [09:05] sneakyimp: no problem, i'd let the testdisk deep search run if you can, it might show the partition and you can maybe get the files back [09:05] Eric^^: any broad suggestions about next steps if testdisk finds anything? [09:06] https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic-updates/linux-signed-hwe-5.4 I'd like to try out hat fix, uhh why is the source only 14.4 kb in total? [09:07] sneakyimp: you can press 'p' over the partition to list the files, then use 'c' or copy them over, after that restore it/write it to the partition table and maybe assess if the fs is still good and you want to use it (though i guess there are no guarantees that the fat32 didnt overwrite any important parts and now its unreliable) [09:08] i'd just get the important files back and run for the hills, then reinstall windows cleanly [09:12] Eric^^: thank you for the advice. i'll regard the drive with plenty of suspicion [09:13] goodnight! [09:14] sneakyimp: no problem, thanks you too [09:14] ah, linux-hwe-5.4 is the correct package. obviously we can't have the full source for a canonical-signed kernel (which would include the keys, I suppose) since that'd defeat the purpose of signing it [09:17] https://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-disco.git/commit/snapcraft.yaml?id=f32feaaa4ad5f63b8d6b6a65a25f9b85ed3d1e4b this reads like an april fools. snapcraft.yml added to the kernel with version 4.20? [09:31] hmm... i have upgraded to 21.04 ... i know its a little bit early ... but the new kernel changed something for me. im using cpufrequtils to load powersave cpu governor for my intel cpu. that makes my cpu not activate my fans all the time which is silent working station... since new kernel the same govenor is loaded but the cpu frequency is now defaulting to 1800 mhz and not 800mhz as before. any hints how i can find why that [09:31] changes ? [09:31] i booted the old kernel to see if that changes the behaviour like i used to and it does [09:32] my temps are fine... so i think the power draw is similar... but im the curious type of guy to see if theres some sort of explanation without greping the the kernel :D [09:59] why doesn't `mkpasswd --method=help` show `yescrypt` ? [10:03] ash_worksi: for me it does... some dependency not there? [10:03] TheBigK02: oh? what version are you using? [10:03] I mean, of Ubuntu? [10:04] 5.5.8 ... i upgraded today to 21.04... but its not supported yet i think [10:04] I see [10:06] I see, mine is 5.5.6 [10:06] I'll try upgrading whois [10:07] wait... does `sudo apt upgrade whois` upgrade that package? [10:07] first u can do apt-cache policy whois to see if there a new version even avaibale [10:07] if its not.. then u dont need to do anything [10:08] if im correct mkpasswd is depending on glibc... [10:08] and glibc is core part of ur OS... [10:08] I already ran the command above which apparently is upgrading things like libreOffice [10:09] also, ftr, I'm on Ubuntu 20. [10:09] .04 [10:10] if there were a newer version available, what _should_ I have done to upgrade it? [10:11] ash_worksi: i would recommend always doing general system upgrades... then u dont have to do anything [10:11] in shell u do apt update && apt dist-upgrade... [10:11] sudo if ur normal user, im sorry ;) [10:11] well, that'd move me to the latest ubuntu, yes? [10:11] I generally stick to `full-upgrade` [10:11] thats same [10:12] oh? [10:12] ash_worksi: only do-release-upgrade would change the release [10:12] oh yea [10:12] well, anyway, what I ran didn't upgrade whois [10:12] erm, mkpasswd [10:12] well then u have the current version [10:12] for ur release obviously [10:13] yeah [10:14] what ur actually wanting to achieve... stronger hashes in ur /etc/shadow or what [10:16] I was just following along with a tutorial on a container OS which recommended generating password hashes with mkpasswd [10:16] they recommended yesscrypt as the method [10:16] out of curiousity, what other methods are listed for you? [10:17] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Zrc7j7yYsh/ [10:18] I was gonna say: mkpasswd --method=help | awk '{printf "%s ", $1}' :P [10:19] I see [10:19] its related to the OS-Release I would say. i asked someone with same installed whats in it and he has also no yescrypt [10:19] not that I understand this arena fully, but do you happen to know if argon2 is generally preferred over yescrypt? [10:20] no crypto expert... sorry... i would research that as well if i needed to know ;) [10:21] thanks anyway :) [10:23] i would check which method the /etc/shadow uses [10:23] and then use that.. u cant be wrong with that i would say [10:39] how much space does building a ubuntu kernel usually take? [10:40] it just ate all of my remaining 17G and then failed with "disk full" [10:48] TheBigK02: Sorry for long delay - I want to remove snapd because it has automatic updates that cannot be disabled. It ate all my mobile data last night. Then I went on a discussion site and saw that the developers don't really care about user freedom and have a "we know better than you, dumb shits" attitude ala windows 10, so I decided not to use it because I don't trust developers that can't trust users. [10:53] what's the name of default ubuntu kernel for 20.04 lts? [10:53] i deleted it by accident [10:54] metbsd: linux-image-generic [10:54] linux-generic rather [10:54] thanks [10:55] linux-generic-hwe-20.04 on my machine [10:56] yeah, if you installed from the 20.04.2 image you will get the hwe kernel ba default [10:56] what is hwe [10:56] *by [11:02] !hwe | metbsd [11:02] metbsd: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [11:04] Hi all. I'm trying to understand network configuration. It seems that a fixed LAN without any confiration is symply named "Wired Connection 1" in NetworkManager and then a dhcpd service is started on its behalf? Because there is no .nmconnection file [11:05] larkfisherman: u might wanna consider switching distros... since its quite obvious that ubuntu moves debian packages away to snap. for example chomiums ubuntu release is distributed by snap... [11:16] Hi guys, I enter blkid on my server and saw UUID_SUB="5ff58eb8-9879e85a-e512-5cb9019340f4" TYPE="VMFS_volume_member" [11:16] but it should be UUID ...... [11:17] and type of my disk should be xfs [11:17] Now I enter mkfs.xfs /dev/sdb but it doesn't do anything/ [11:17] How can I fix my problem? [11:20] Hamidreza: sdb is a full device [11:20] don't you want to partition it first? [11:20] cbreak, No I want to use whole block [11:21] that's extremely unusual [11:21] NO [11:21] I strongly recommend against it [11:21] you will suffer A LOT without having a partition table [11:21] ceph will use whole block of disks [11:21] so? [11:21] you want to use xfs [11:21] cbreak, why will I suffer? [11:21] which is a file system [11:22] Hamidreza: because every OS expects a partition table [11:22] including linux [11:22] look, I have 6 disk and I want to format it to xfs [11:22] And use it for object storage [11:22] my recommendation: partition them, format the partition. done. [11:23] TheBigK02: That sucks. I really liked the Ubuntu's attention to user experience. Welp, snapd is free software, I can just rip out the auto-updates myself, I guess. It's a good excuse to finally sit down and learn Go :) [11:23] cbreak, what is UUID_SUB ? [11:23] How can I format it? [11:23] it should be UUID [11:24] your devices have different ways to be identified [11:24] UUID_SUB is one of them [11:24] UUID is an other [11:24] the type is TYPE="VMFS_volume_member" [11:24]