[05:11] <Kraus> Evening! I need to report a possible missing couple files in an Ubuntu package?
[05:12] <Kraus> 21.04, for PipeWire, there are a couple files missing required for a service that's installed automatically on new system installs
[05:13] <Kraus> The service pipewire-pulse.service needs usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.service and usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.socket in order to function.
[05:14] <Kraus> Someone from #pipewire pointed me to an Arch repo where I extracted a tarball and plopped them into place, and now pipewire-pulse is working.
[05:15] <Kraus> The other two services associated with pipewire (pipewire.service and pipewire-media-session.service) are working fine. That last one was the one that was missing.
[05:17] <Kraus> I opened up a ticket on Pipewire's Gitlab to let them know and I'm waiting to hear back, but so far this is looking like a packaging error. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/issues/1087
[05:17] <ubot3> Issue 1087 in pipewire/pipewire "pipewire-pulse.service missing in Ubuntu 21.04" [Opened]
[05:17] <Unit193> Do you have /usr/share/doc/pipewire/examples/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.service and /usr/share/doc/pipewire/examples/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.socket?
[05:20] <Kraus> Unit193: I do now that the user in #pipewire had me download it from the arch repository. :) They were completely missing from a fresh Live USB drive of 21.04 I've been testing Pipewire out in. He had me go here: https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/pipewire/download/
[05:21] <Kraus> I can make a copy of the log where he and I troubleshooted this if you like.
[05:21] <Kraus> Oh wait
[05:21] <Kraus> Sorry,  /usr/share/doc/ ?
[05:21] <Kraus> No, no I don't.
[05:21] <Kraus> Wait, I think I might know what you're talking about.
[05:22] <Kraus> Unit193: Is it the apt package pipewire-doc ?
[05:22] <Kraus> "  libraries for the PipeWire multimedia server - documentation " ?
[05:23] <Unit193> Nope, those are shipped in 'pipewire' directly.
[05:23] <Kraus> Ah, then no, they weren't present. I can check once again just to make sure I'm right
[05:24] <Kraus> Wait yeah, it looks like they're there.... are those the ones I installed? Let me go back and see if that's where he had me put them
[05:25] <Unit193> dpkg -S /path/to/file  will show you what package installed them.  They are installed as example docs though, not as systemd user units.
[05:25] <Unit193> Please take a look at https://wiki.debian.org/PipeWire
 lol, why are they in doc?
[05:27] <Kraus> Huh.. okay so.. I guess I'm a little confused why they're not installed out of the box..
[05:27] <Unit193> I'd guess as the wiki denotes, "This is not a supported scenario for Debian 11, and is considered experimental." or something.
[05:28] <Unit193> (But the wiki shows how to enable it as a drop-in for pulse and alsa.)
[05:28] <Kraus> Experimental but crucial for the entire package to work, heh :)
[05:29] <Unit193> Well some things have native support for pipewire, maybe.  Those are just needed for it to be a drop-in for pulse and alsa (well and jack)
[05:30] <Unit193> Again, I didn't do this, I'm just noting from what I know and from the wiki.  Ubuntu specifically did nothing with pipewire, it's all imported with no changes from Debian.
[05:30] <Kraus> I really wish the people at PipeWire would write up some documentation for all this. It's really lacking.
[05:30] <Kraus> Nono, not blaming you for anything :)
[05:30] <Unit193> I didn't read that you were, just making sure I don't sound like I know more than I do.
[05:30] <Kraus> Looks like they put the pieces in place for anyone courageous enough to go looking for them.
[05:31] <Kraus> Yeah, pipewire's pretty crazy. Entirely redoing the entire linux sound system landscape from a trio of servers into one, sitting right on ALSA.
[05:34] <Kraus> Ohwell, thanks for the help. I'll pass on the word to the pipewire people in that ticket thread I started.
[05:39] <Unit193> It's *supposed* to be better, but often after playing some audio I get a high pitch sound.  It goes away if I adjust the volume a click and then back (or sometimes takes a few.)
[05:39] <Unit193> Sure thing, happy to help.