[00:24] <waltman> Bashing-om: Aha, thanks!
[00:30] <Bashing-om> waltman: Nvidia - still a sad state of affairs :(
[01:15] <waltman> Bashing-om: Oh well. At long as it works I don't really care all that much.
[01:34] <Bashing-om> waltman: I too have Nvidia graphics - pleased that nouveau works as well as we can make it so :P
[01:40] <waltman> What's nouveau?
[01:46] <Bashing-om> waltman: The open source graphic's driver for Nvidia cards.
[01:53] <waltman> ah
[02:11] <callq_> Help! Installed windows onto ubuntu - ran BootRepair tool to fix Grub - booted into ubuntu - now stuck at this one line at startup:
[02:12] <callq_> "file:///dev/nvme0n1p6: clean, 448024/138... files
[02:16] <callq_> Yeah every time I boot ubuntu is getting stuck at "/dev/nvme0n1p6: clean, 123/123123 files, 123123/123123 blocks"
[08:10] <meandrain> hi. Any ideea if it is possible to do something similar to raidz zfs on mdadm ?
[08:10] <meandrain> I want to have 5 drives striped + 1 redundancy drive
[09:04] <The_LoudSpeaker> what's the name of the startup applications app in ubuntu? I mean if I wanted to install it on another ubuntu based distro what do type with apt install?
[09:09] <EriC^^> The_LoudSpeaker: it's part of 'gnome-session-common'
[09:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> okay.
[09:18] <Deknos> when Ubuntu 21.04 will be easily integratable with AD, will it also be easily integratable with FreeIPA in future versions?
[09:31] <tatertots> Deknos: how much easier does it need to be for you?
[09:50] <toffo> Hi there! Any Raspberry Pi 4B devs around? I just updated my Xubuntu from 20.10 (groovy) to 21.04 (hirsute) and would have a couple of questions...
[09:52] <toffo> I ran the update via the 'update-manager -d' command and it worked alright, except libwine caused some degree of hassle with the installer and it suggested I'd bugreport it -- I do have automatic bug reporting set on and now whoopsie has been utilizing one of the cores at 100% for hours on end as its gathering for the crash data
[09:52] <toffo> the update works alright though
[09:54] <toffo> am just wondering about whoopsie's bug report since it's been doing that 100% single-core utilization for quite a while (= hours) now, I've had to reboot in between due to apt updates and it goes back to utilizing the core at 100%
[09:55] <toffo> also, at least for my Xfce, I still have the problem that I'm unable to change the screen resolution while inside Xfce unless I have the FKMS enabled...
[09:55] <nyuszika7h> I have an issue with Ubuntu 21.04, when it's locked or put to sleep and I come back to unlock it, it freezes at the lock screen for 1-2 minutes, not accepting any keyboard or mouse input
[09:56] <jak1> hi ya'll i have a question about SSO, guess what, i have an account, thats a bit old, and i dont remember the login mail :C i tried "some" of my mail addresses, but all are not registred i try to get back my old name, can someone may help me to get the mailadress of my old account? *hides*
[09:56] <toffo> nyuszika7h: I don't know if it's the same bug but I had a problem with 20.10 amd64 desktop recently after an update where I couldn't use my keyboard at all after login, I had to reset some sticky keys-related functionality and it started to work again
[09:57] <toffo> nyuszika7h: apparently it's an old GNOME bug or something
[09:59] <toffo> nyuszika7h: not sure if it's the same bug tho, but sounds very similar -- does the mouse/keyboard lock-up happen after you log back in, a.k.a. are you able to unlock it, and it freezes after that?
[09:59] <nyuszika7h> no, it freezes before I can unlock it
[09:59] <nyuszika7h> then it unfreezes after a few minutes and then I can log in and everything is fine
[10:00] <toffo> nyuszika7h: ok, then it's probably not the same lock-up bug
[10:00] <nyuszika7h> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1400243#c9 I wonder if this is related, because I have an sshfs volume mounted
[10:00] <toffo> nyuszika7h: do you have a fresh install or did you update to 21.04 ?
[10:01] <nyuszika7h> it's a pretty recent install but I installed 20.10 first and then updated to 21.04
[10:02] <toffo> nyuszika7h: oh well I've had lock-up issues on just about all my ubuntu-related linux builds related to either to lightdm, the xwindow manager's screen saver/re-login screen etc. ... seems like it's persistent issue, and it's not only on GNOME but also on Xfce etc.
[10:05] <toffo> nyuszika7h: hmm... so it could be related to polling the sshfs during wake-up? how about your power options? I noticed just the past week that on 20.10 my UI went slow a.f. and that an update had reset some of my power options, I turned off animations and especially "Suspend when laptop lid is closed" from UI Tweaks ('gnome-ui-tweaks' or what was the package called?) and it went back to normal
[10:05] <jak1> had some issues with different distros too, iirc it was something about hibernate/keyboard hooks *shrugs* (and i dont remember how to fix it, but may it helps for searching)
[10:06] <toffo> jak1: yep this case sounds like it's some sort of a hang-up when waking up from hibernation or such
[10:06] <toffo> jak1: I've also had those issues with hibernation like since forever and with all linux builds ever :D lol, I've just "solved" them by turning all power management off except for turning the monitors off
[10:07] <toffo> (^ turning the monitors off automatically after x minutes, that is)
[10:07] <jak1> :)
[10:09] <toffo> so, again, my xubuntu 21.04 question would be: is there anything I can do about whoopsie that seems to be doing "something" (htop says: /usr/bin/python3 /usr/share/apport/whoopsie-upload-all )
[10:10] <toffo> there seems to be practically no internet traffic inbound or outbound, but the core utilization is just stuck at 100% for a single core
[10:11] <toffo> oh, at one point during that update (rpi4b, xubuntu 20.10 to 21.04), whoopsie errormsg'd that it ran out of its maximum number of errors to log down :D dunno if that's related
[10:11] <jak1> whoopsie is afaik the ubuntu error reporter
[10:11] <toffo> jak1: yes it is
[10:12] <toffo> and I'd be glad to send that error report to the devs since I was the happy chimpanzee who just went "hehe" yesterday and installed the 21.04 update like there's no tomorrow ;D
[10:12] <toffo> it twerks just fine tho
[10:12] <toffo> (apart from the stuck whoopsie, and the libwine errormsg's that I got during install)
[10:13] <toffo> I did record the screen into a video of the overall update process
[10:13] <jak1> settings->privacy->send error reposrts to canonical remove the X, that should help to remove the process after relog, in case u want to send it, may look in the error logs /var/log/*
[10:14] <toffo> jak1: yep I've set my error reporting to maximum to make sure that there's plenty of sleepless nights @ canonical, lol
[10:14] <jak1> lol :'D
[10:15] <toffo> but I'm a happy test chimp tho, always nice to be on the cutting edge and sometimes cut yourself too by accident while at it. anywhoos... I'll take a look
[10:16] <jak1> in case someone could help me with my SSO problem, i would be happy too ^^
[10:18] <toffo> jak1: I'd help you out if I could, mate :|
[10:19] <jak1> hmm, ty... darn brain... i get old ^^ if i only could remember that mail ._.
[10:20] <toffo> jak1: btw that option isn't there in xubuntu, I've forgotten where it is in Xfce altogether :P
[10:21] <jak1> iirc, you can also disable it in terminal
[10:21] <toffo> jak1: yep am looking at systemctl right now
[10:22] <jak1> may `vim /etc/default/whoopsie` and set the reporting to false
[10:22] <toffo> jak1: it has found an active internet connection and started to use that for a bug report over an hour ago, and the core utilization is still at 100%
[10:22] <jak1> or just apt purge whoopsie *shrugs*
[10:23] <jak1> *hides*
[10:23] <toffo> jak1: interesting, there's no "whoopsie" under /etc/default
[10:23] <jak1> hmm... weird
[10:23] <toffo> yeah I think I'll just have to nuke and pave
[10:23] <jak1> atm im on a deb. distro, so i cant rly search for it... im sorry :/
[10:24] <toffo> I mean my update from 20.10 => 21.04 did stagger a couple of times and I did get a couple of errormsg's so ...
[10:25] <toffo> ok, whoopsie purged, everything's back to normal, warning during purge that '/var/lib/whoopsie' wasn't empty, hence not removed
[10:25] <toffo> I guess I'll reboot and re-install whoopsie and see what happens
[10:25] <jak1> :)
[10:25] <jak1> have fun, gtg... cu later ;)
[10:26] <toffo> jak1_afk: thanks! have a great day and ty for helping out :)
[10:29] <toffo> oh, another remark on xubuntu 21.04 update; hddtemp keeps on nagging with every reboot that the temps are not available for /dev/sda (where I run my xubuntu from on the rpi4b), the suggested chmod u+a has no effect, I get that errormsg on every reboot, it's popped up previously when I've updated xubuntu and usually that chmod trick has been enough to make it work again
[11:30] <toffo> ok, first problem found, gnu autotools seem to have broken during update from 20.10 to 21.04
[11:30] <toffo> listutils.c complains that the loadable library and the perl binaries are mismatched
[11:32] <toffo> been trying to reinstall autoconf, automake and libtool with apt
[11:42] <toffo> Alright -- solved it already, 'env | grep PERL' showed that I had a few custom Perl variables set from my 20.10 installation in ~/.bashrc, got rid of those and it's working! :)
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:14] <toffo> I have an amd64 desktop w/ Ubuntu 20.10, wondering just how supported/safe the update at this point is? there's a warning about the EFI going haywire so that makes me a bit hesitant -- got the system backed up of course
[12:18] <toffo> the update on an rpi4b went without bigger problems, but am still a bit hesitant to try it out on a desktop, am wondering also about the murmurs I've heard over (performance?) issues w/ Nvidia cards
[12:48] <seefood> Howdie! I see a package got patched 11 hours ago on Debian, what's holding it from getting to Ubuntu LTS releases? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libimage-exiftool-perl/+bug/1925985
[12:50] <seefood> or to rephrase, is it blocked or delayed for a good reason, or does anyone here have the credentials to get it in?
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> seefood: i assume this is a security bug, you could talk to the #ubuntu-hardened crew
[12:51] <seefood> lotuspsychje yup, thanks!
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> hey MonkeyDust good sunday o/
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  \o
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> good sunday 2u2 :)
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[13:27] <jak1_afk> q: any ubu staff here, that has access to the sql db and can give me a part of my registred mail address by my username, plz help me :'C
[13:54] <Maik> jak1_afk: there's never a ubuntu staff here, we are all just volunteers
[13:57] <raffaem27> I have Kubuntu 20.10 but I installed the GNOME desktop and uninstalled KDE. Now I cannot upgrade to 21.04. "Software Updater" doesn't show the upgrade. `do-release-upgrade` shows no update either. I have the option to notify me of release to any new version enabled.
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> raffaem27: upgrade path might not be open yet perhaps
[13:59] <raffaem27> lotuspsychje what is the upgrade path? This website contains instruction to update: https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/04/upgrade-ubuntu-21-04-from-ubuntu-20-10/
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> raffaem27: usualy when a new ubuntu release comes out, it takes a while for upgrades to come in
[14:01] <raffaem27> ok. thanks
[14:21] <Maik> lotuspsychje: sudo do-release-upgrade -d might work, i did that on my Pi install
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> -d is to devel versions right, not really reccomended for the regular users
[14:24] <Maik> i did force the upgrade that way after 21.04 was released so it was stable at that point and nit a dev version anymore
[14:24] <Maik> nit/not
[15:50] <giaco> I take my laptop from home to office and so I unplug/replug secondary display quite often. Everytime I do so, my windows/workspaces are messed up and I have to reposition all of them every time. Is there a solution for this?
[16:06] <Intelo> Whats the best tool to see graphical hardware temperatures but on terminal?
[16:08] <Intelo> I can suspend but I cannot hibernate (the screen gets turnned onn again in 5 seconds). I use xubuntu LTS (latest) asus x570 MB. What can I do to fix?
[16:12] <Intelo> I guess something to do with bios?
[16:32] <Intelo> hello, anyone there? Can anyone see my messages?
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> !patience | Intelo
[16:40] <Intelo> ok
[16:41] <Maik> Intelo: also try to google for your issues and other questions. :)
[16:46] <tomreyn> Intelo: hardware temperature sensors can be examined with lm-sensors and hddtemp
[16:48] <Intelo> Maik: tried. Trying again
[16:48] <Intelo> tomreyn: ok
[16:48] <Intelo> but I already tried, lm-s... don't give much
[16:48] <Intelo> nor does glances
[16:48] <Intelo> psensor do a bit
[16:48] <Intelo> though
[16:48] <Intelo> .
[16:49] <tomreyn> did you run sensors-detect?
[16:50] <Intelo> Is there any problems in this command?  sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=16097152
[16:50] <tomreyn> Intelo: about hibernation not working (auto wakeup), this is probably a bios issue. look for a bios update, check kernel logs    (journalctl -k) for ACPI warnings and errors. in some cases this will help:
[16:51] <tomreyn> !acpi_osi | Intelo
[16:53] <tomreyn> use fallocate rather than dd for the task of creating a large file, much simpler.
[16:56] <tomreyn> also, 16x1024x1024 is 16777216, not 16097152
[17:32] <pytorch> what is a good malware scanner for ubuntu?
[17:33] <pytorch> clamav looks painful to install
[17:33] <leftyfb> pytorch: unless you are being required to install one by an organization, you do not need one
[17:34] <pytorch> leftyfb: the security folks are asking us to pick and maintain one
[17:34] <leftyfb> pytorch: That said, try #ubuntu-offtopic for software recommendations
[17:34] <leftyfb> pytorch: hire new security folks
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> heh
[17:34] <pytorch> leftyfb: So malware detection is not useful for ubuntu ? why not? rootkit detection?
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> not a topic for here pytorch as said above
[17:35] <Intelo> Any ideas whats wrong? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Cp8YqdxFt4/
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | pytorch
[17:35] <leftyfb> pytorch: try #ubuntu-hardened
[17:35] <pytorch> thanks
[17:37] <Intelo> tomreyn: ^
[17:38] <leftyfb> Intelo: it literally tells you what is wrong
[17:39] <leftyfb> Intelo: https://askubuntu.com/a/1152014/1151311
[17:40] <leftyfb> Intelo: first result on google when I typed in the error message
[17:40] <Intelo> leftyfb: but I have more swap than ram
[17:40] <leftyfb> Intelo: read the link
[17:40] <Intelo> ok..
[17:42] <Intelo> leftyfb: it did hibernated few mintues ago. Now it isnt
[17:51] <unixbsd> is there a PS3 or PS4 emulator on Ubuntu ?
[17:51] <unixbsd> (sony playstation=PS)
[17:51] <Intelo> leftyfb: i can now hibernate but when I resume. The system starts as if there was no hibernate. Note that I have encrypted full disk.
[17:51] <Hercules> can anyone tell how to use ftps in termina;?
[17:51] <Hercules> terminal*
[17:52] <leftyfb> !ot | unixbsd
[17:52] <leftyfb> Hercules: try ncftp
[17:52] <Hercules> it is not possible through the regular 'ftp' software comes preinstalled in ubuntu server?
[17:52] <unixbsd> Hercules: there is also fuse, for ftp over mount
[17:53] <leftyfb> Hercules: yes, the man page for the "ftp" client should help you with using it to connect to a remote ftp server
[17:54] <Hercules> thank you for the help!
[18:09] <larsmartin> hi did someone have issue with ubuntu 21.04 that keyboard did not works good after hours of using ubuntu?
[18:11] <alty> grr...
[18:11] <alty> sorry.
[18:11] <alty> keep pressing the wrong button and the right click does stupid things
[18:11] <Maik> nope, no problem here on 21.04 (upgrade from 20.10) on a Pi 4 larsmartin
[18:12] <leftyfb> larsmartin: it's best if you ask for help, not a survey of others experience
[18:13] <Intelo> What should be replaced with sda2 in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="intel_pstate=disable resume=/dev/sda2"
[18:13] <Intelo> I use full disk encryption
[18:13] <larsmartin> but what can be issue? shotcut or sudo snap install microk8s --classic on amd ryzen computer?
[18:14] <leftyfb> larsmartin: you're going to have to be more specific with your issue
[18:14] <larsmartin> its hard to find out why keyboard did not works on firefox or hexchat and other program.
[18:15] <Maik> larsmartin: also try searching for bug reports on launchpad
[18:15] <leftyfb> larsmartin: define "did not works"
[18:15] <unixbsd> Intelo: I did a lot of testing with grub2. you try to boot ubuntu right?
[18:15] <Maik> not works, "doesn't work" i guess
[18:16] <leftyfb> Maik: yeah, I get that. That could mean anything
[18:16] <larsmartin> its did not get any value on the url or when i use it only windows key works or logout. yes ubuntu.
[18:16] <Maik> leftyfb: true
[18:16] <Intelo> unixbsd: after hibernation. yes
[18:16] <unixbsd> Intelo: uffs. hibernation never works
[18:16] <Intelo> unixbsd: never?
[18:16] <Intelo> unixbsd: why?
[18:16] <leftyfb> Intelo: did you read the link I gave you?
[18:16] <unixbsd> Intelo: it depends the machine, for about 20 years, hibernation was not reliable
[18:16] <Intelo> leftyfb: i did
[18:17] <leftyfb> Intelo: and what did it say about hibernation?
[18:17] <Intelo> leftyfb: many things.
[18:17] <leftyfb> Intelo: read it again
[18:17] <Intelo> leftyfb: I have a counter too. How many times to read it?
[18:17] <Maik> Intelo: if you can't answer that question you didn't read it imho
[18:18] <Intelo> I did
[18:19] <Intelo> unixbsd: how can you say hibernation never workds?
[18:19] <leftyfb> Intelo: hibernation historically has never been great at universally functioning properly. You're going to spend way more time trying to get it to work the way you think it should work than just shutting down the computer and booting it back up when you need it.
[18:21] <unixbsd> Intelo: the danger is to  kill your harddisk with cold reset, forever bad blocks
[18:21] <unixbsd> the best is to set KDE to not hibernate using LID, it is into settings
[18:24] <Intelo> unixbsd: leftyfb I see. nice tip. So would you advice some low cost UPS (included with batter) that can hold my PC and monitor for 10 minutes if electricity goes off?
[18:24] <leftyfb> Intelo: feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic for hardware recommendations
[18:24] <Intelo> leftyfb: unixbsd I would just suspend now. Suspend works fine with me. Right unixbsd ? it works for most others too right?
[18:24] <Intelo> leftyfb: ok
[18:25] <Intelo> unixbsd: what about suspend?
[18:26] <unixbsd> Intelo: I remove all those suspend and hibernate to be sure that it just works. Reason. the cat comes and turn off the lid while you backup over rsync or scp an importnat file... and so on.
[18:26] <unixbsd> or the lethal cold reset ...
[18:27] <Intelo> unixbsd: but no dangers in suspend mode. right?
[18:27] <unixbsd> if it works... suspend is suspends, scp wont work
[18:31] <Intelo>  Question: Is there a hardware danger/issue or disk drive data corruption chance if the PC gets shutdown due to power loss while it was in suspend mode?
[18:32] <leftyfb> Intelo: possible filesystem corruption
[18:32] <Intelo> dam..
[18:32] <Intelo> leftyfb: nothign to avoid it?
[18:33] <leftyfb> Intelo: don't lose power
[18:33] <Intelo> leftyfb: ya.. :)
[18:34] <unixbsd> the best is that all KDE and openbsd tends to put suspend  and hibernation by default into machines. So this kinda lethal habit. kinda human to play with fire, maybe ;)
[18:36] <Intelo> unixbsd: I forgot to ask. Is this dangerous and problematic with linux/ubuntus only or for windows or any OS as well?
[18:36] <leftyfb> Intelo: any filesystem
[18:37] <unixbsd> it is way worse with windows. NTFS cannot keep files without being damaged. Ext4 is more reliable
[18:38] <Intelo> leftyfb: no I meant the hibernate to disk issues
[18:38] <Intelo> unixbsd: ^
[18:39] <leftyfb> Intelo: all OS's suck at suspend/hibernation. Though I'm not sure about Apple. Since they make everything in the stack, it might work for them
[18:40] <unixbsd> Since Apple is based on BSD, it could maybe be bit better if the reboot fsck well the disk. no idea, it is all same
[18:41] <leftyfb> Intelo: either way, we're going pretty offtopic here now
[18:41] <launchd> APFS has protections to prevent itself from being corrupted on power loss
[18:43] <unixbsd> I dont thing that one in  xfs, ext4 or ffsv2 or ufs2 can be better for recovering data after power loss. they are quite similar.
[18:48] <Intelo> unixbsd: so the disk is the only danger point. Nothing else?
[18:48] <Intelo> for a power loss ^
[18:48] <Intelo> leftyfb: ya. ok.
[18:48] <Intelo> unixbsd: launchd we can talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:50] <samba35> i have problem with login loop how do i fix it ?
[18:50] <unixbsd> what is a login loop?
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> !loginloop
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> !xauthority
[18:51] <[VMGuy23]> I think login -> login screen forevor
[18:51] <samba35> while booting i suppose to enter username and password ,it goes in loop (ask to loing again and again and again ........and again )
[18:51] <leftyfb> samba35: what version of ubuntu?
[18:51] <samba35> 18.04
[18:51] <leftyfb> samba35: was this working previously?
[18:52] <samba35> yes
[18:52] <unixbsd> get this rescue, https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/minirescue/-/raw/master/v1/minirescue-linux-bsd-v1.img.gz, and mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; and then vi /etc/shadow   and then put just:    root::18735:0:99999:7:::
[18:52] <leftyfb> samba35: what changes since the last time it worked?
[18:52] <[VMGuy23]> how to change graphics drivers? (i want to use something other than LLVMPIPE)
[18:52] <samba35> ubottu, i give that try did not work for me
[18:53] <samba35> i think i did update pkg
[18:53] <leftyfb> [VMGuy23]: let me guess, this is a VM?
[18:53] <leftyfb> samba35: try reverting to the previous kernel
[18:53] <samba35> leftyfb, yes give this try also
[18:53] <[VMGuy23]> leftyfb: nope, i just installed amdgpu and its still using llvmpipe
[18:54] <leftyfb> [VMGuy23]: you have Ubuntu installed on a bare metal machine using Mesa graphics drivers? What is your video chipset?
[18:54] <samba35> 135 and 136 with differant kernel type (gen and low lat)
[18:54] <samba35> its nvidia 710
[18:55] <[VMGuy23]> leftyfb: intergrated graphics (it says radeon vegamobile gfx) in an AMD Ryzen 3 3200U
[18:55] <samba35> haha i try u r gues so i did many thing correct :)
[18:56] <unixbsd> I have also a radeon vegamobile gfx) in an AMD Ryzen 3 3200U. cool, like mine.
[18:57] <[VMGuy23]> unixbsd: 2019 acer laptop? came with 4gb ram?
[18:57] <leftyfb> [VMGuy23]: sudo lshw -c video | nc terminbin.com 9999
[18:57] <leftyfb> ugh
[18:57] <unixbsd> I have tower -- more practical than laptop and cheapter
[18:57] <leftyfb> [VMGuy23]: sudo lshw -c video | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:58] <samba35> leftyfb, does this command send out to terminbin.com 9999
[18:58] <[VMGuy23]> I already have "| tb" setup :)
[18:58] <leftyfb> samba35: the command was not for you
[18:59] <samba35> understood but just asking for info
[18:59] <[VMGuy23]> leftyfb: https://termbin.com/5736
[18:59] <leftyfb> samba35: yes, the command sends the output to the termbin.com pastebin service
[18:59] <samba35> cool
[18:59] <samba35> thanks
[19:00] <leftyfb> [VMGuy23]: https://askubuntu.com/a/1228323/1151311
[19:06] <[VMGuy23]> leftyfb: where does that answer my quesion of getting away from llvmpipe?
[19:09] <leftyfb> [VMGuy23]: I think you might need 20.04
[19:09] <[VMGuy23]> leftyfb: can I go back without reinstall?
[19:10] <leftyfb> [VMGuy23]: not until you dual boot the 2 releases
[19:10] <[VMGuy23]> I don't want to reinstall
[19:11] <unixbsd> [VMGuy23] you can debootstrap into /UBUNTU
[19:12] <[VMGuy23]> what does that mean
[19:12] <luc4> Hello! Anyone who knows how to select the kernel to boot in ubuntu for the raspberry pi?
[19:12] <[VMGuy23]> select in grub?
[19:12] <unixbsd> mkdir /UBUNTU ; cd /UBUNTU ;  apt-get install debootstrap -y  ; debootstrap --no-check-gpg  --include=netbase,debootstrap,gcc,make,ssh,login,passwd,wpasupplicant  groovy   . http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[19:12] <leftyfb> luc4: try #ubuntu-arm
[19:12] <luc4> leftyfb: ok, thank you!
[19:13] <[VMGuy23]> unixbsd: what does that do
[19:13] <Deano59> leftyfb: ubuntu is supported here, no?
[19:13] <unixbsd> it will fetch you the base ubuntu into /UBUNTU and you have a new system right there. copy after /boot and lib/modules there
[19:14] <[VMGuy23]> I might have found a solution, reinstall xorg
[19:14] <leftyfb> Deano59: it is yes. If you're referring to my suggestion for #ubuntu-arm, selecting the kernel to boot on arm is a lot different and not as well-known compared to x86. #ubuntu-arm is more specialized for arm and should be able to help in a more efficient manner
[19:26] <Intelo> I reinstalled ubuntu. But I had made backup of my /home. NOw I want to get the browser history back. Is it possible? If so, how?
[19:26] <leftyfb> Intelo: which browser?
[19:37] <unixbsd> Intelo:  it is into .Mozilla  .cache/chromium
[19:38] <unixbsd> this is why it is better to debootstrap, run Ramdisk ubuntu, move to new system and once done you can trash the old system on same partition.
[19:39] <leftyfb> unixbsd: your answer above is only half-correct and only for 1 out of the 3 most popular browsers people tend to use on ubuntu.
[19:40] <unixbsd> theere is Moziilla and chromium? no? what else?
[19:45] <leftyfb> Intelo: ~/.mozilla (not .Mozilla) for Firefox   ~/snap/chromium/common/chromium (not .cache chromium) for chromium and ~/.config/google-chrome for google chrome
[19:45] <unixbsd> why there is this snap? what is snap for?
[19:45] <leftyfb> unixbsd: sorry, I was wrong, you were 0% correct in your post, not 50%
[19:46] <leftyfb> unixbsd: ubuntu no longer has an apt package for chromium. It's only snap now
[19:47] <unixbsd> wow, so in future, no apt-get ?
[19:47] <leftyfb> unixbsd: not future, that's how it has been since 20.04
[19:47] <unixbsd> they maybe will try to be away from Debian mother of all debians. That would make sense
[19:53] <leftyfb> unixbsd: there are no plans to move away from Debian. Feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:55] <nerdisapenguin> Hello how can i compile neovim 0.5 on ubuntu
[19:56] <nerdisapenguin> When I try compiling it says that libtool is not installed when it is
[19:58] <unixbsd> maybe install clang? gcc misses few things... do you compile c++ or c?
[19:58] <leftyfb> nerdisapenguin: feel free to seek support from the neovim project on compiling their latest version that was released 15 hours ago
[19:59] <unixbsd> vim compiles right away with ncurses, out the box, no problemo
[20:00] <leftyfb> nerdisapenguin: it's also a "prerelease". Please seek support from the neovim project
[20:00] <nerdisapenguin> Fair enough, thanks
[20:06] <eam> hi, signup flow for https://login.launchpad.net/ seems to be broken - there's no email verification being sent out as far as I can tell
[20:07] <leftyfb> eam: try asking in #launchpad
[20:07] <eam> great, tyvm
[20:10] <eam> in the meantime, I was tring to file a bug but I could also use advice on how to best navigate this: It looks like network-manager can't be uninstalled when running zfs
[20:11] <eam> it looks like a package trigger tries to rm /var/lib/NetworkManager, which fails because it's a zfs volume
[20:11] <leftyfb> eam: why do you need to remove network-manager?
[20:12] <eam> I'm plumbing networking with networkd
[20:12] <leftyfb> eam: why?
[20:12] <unixbsd> in any case the classic debian method with /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf works if you wanna light, with net-tools.
[20:12] <eam> because nm is terrible? I want a static networking config for this server
[20:13] <leftyfb> eam: if it's a server, why is it running a desktop?
[20:13] <eam> unixbsd: my understanding is that modern ubuntu uses netplan with a networkd render target
[20:13] <eam> leftyfb: it's the thumb drive I had sitting around
[20:13] <eam> I'll probably run some graphical stuff on it at some point as well
[20:14] <eam> I'd want the same for my workstation
[20:15] <eam> unixbsd: I've done this before, but this is the first time I've done it on ubuntu+zfs and it seems that's the combo that breaks the network-manager deb
[20:17] <unixbsd> eam: I can give you a ready out of the box installation with all necessary ... from my gitlab. It works here.
[20:18] <leftyfb> unixbsd: note: they asked for networkd, no ifupdown
[20:19] <eam> I think I just fixed it, edited out the rm in /var/lib/dpkg/info/network-manager.postrm
[20:21] <Intelo> leftyfb: unixbsd ok. thanks
[20:54] <unixbsd> eam: you may find herewith a preinstalled ready-out-of-the-box ubuntu groovy, with the clasic networking with interfaces, if out of luck, and if you havent found how to fix it.   https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/ubuntu-live/-/raw/master/v4/UBUNTU.tar.gz
[20:54] <eam> unixbsd: oh cool, thanks! I got it running already but I'll take a look through this
[20:56] <eam> I've never regretted working to minimize the number of things systemd can touch
[20:57] <unixbsd> there is DEVUAN.tar.gz ready too, in case you want no systemd, see my website
[20:58] <eam> tempting. so far I'm leaning toward compatibility with the herd but some day that may change
[21:01] <unixbsd> eam: if tempted today, tomorrow will be surely different ;)
[21:03] <unixbsd> I see that my way of installing, it boots x3 to x5 times faster that classic ubuntu.
[21:05] <eam> I'm trying hard to not rant about the universal disappointment of systemd, haha
[21:05] <unixbsd> eam: believe me, but #linux and ##linux see only positive things about it. it is just the beginning.
[21:12] <unixbsd> eam: the ifconfig -a is defined into pkg: net-tools right?
[21:30] <unixbsd> eam: I will make a second version, I forgot fdisk ;)
[22:12] <AhmedAmerican> how to do crontab From 7 AM to 8PM (Mon-Sun.) ?
[22:14] <unixbsd> crontab -e :   30,55 * * * * sleep 27 ; /usr/bin/mybinary      but Mon to Sun.,... no idea and hour too
[22:14] <qskwood> Monday through Sunday is just every day
[22:14] <qskwood> unless I'm missing something
[22:16] <qskwood> * 7-20 * * 0-6 sleep 1
[22:16] <qskwood> '* 7-20 * * 0-6 sleep 1'
[22:17] <qskwood> Really though 0-6 can just be * too
[23:21] <johnfg> hi folks
[23:22] <johnfg> I've been reading a bit about joplin notes.  In our Ubuntu software, we have both Joplin Desktop and joplin-arnatious.
[23:23] <johnfg> I don't see much difference between the 2.  Anyone know?  And how do you like joplin if you use it?
[23:23] <leftyfb> johnfg: feel free to ask about software recommendations and opinions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:24] <johnfg> leftyfb: I thought about this, and not *wanting* to poll.  Will do leftyfb.