[00:25] @Tedster [am I not people? (:], join the welcome group for week, and tell me people read the group description ;) [00:26] @Tedster [am I not people? (:], [Edit] join the welcome group for week, and tell me again people read the group description ;) [00:30] @Fuseteam [join the welcome group for week, and tell me again people read the group descrip …], There's a welcome group, what? [00:31] yes there is did not see it on the website? [00:31] [Edit] yes there is did you not see it on the website? [00:31] hmmm guess we got our work cut out for us [00:31] the welcome group is @welcomeplus [00:32] it is mostly to help people install ubuntu touch on supported devices and to well welcome them in the os [00:32] [Edit] yes there is, did you not see it on the website? [00:33] you probably won't believe what kind of a pinned message we ended up making and most people still don't read it πŸ˜‚ [00:33] [Edit] you probably won't believe what kind of a pinned message we ended up making and most people still don't read either it or the group description πŸ˜‚ [00:34] @Fuseteam [yes there is, did you not see it on the website?], I see. I've never spent any time on the website, I've just been lurking here for years, trying to convince myself to play with UT [00:34] oh that's fun reminds me of how i got introduced to it [00:34] [Edit] oh that's fun, kind of reminds me of how i got introduced to it [00:35] A friend who's since left the group, it seems, played around with UT on his Nexus 5X back when that was relevant and showed me, I joined and now I'm still here (: [00:36] maybe we should make a similar type of pinned message for this group as many may have their first contact on telegram rather than the site hmmmm [00:36] @Tedster [A friend who's since left the group, it seems, played around with UT on his Nexu …], oh fun, that's phone i heard many tales about hehe [00:36] @Tedster [A friend who's since left the group, it seems, played around with UT on his Nexu …], [Edit] oh fun, that's a phone i heard many tales about hehe [00:38] @Fuseteam [oh fun, that's a phone i heard many tales about hehe], I also used one for a while myself [00:39] The Nexus 5X was misunderstood, and also bad. [00:39] But mostly misunderstood, and bad. [00:53] "and bad" :p [00:54] @Tedster [I also used one for a while myself], oh cool, how was your experience with it? [00:56] I'm losing track of the years past. The version of Android it shipped with... It ran well. [00:56] Anything more recent, it was garbage. [00:57] interesting btw we're kinda overflowing now, maybe best to drift over to @ubportsOF [00:57] @Tedster [Anything more recent, it was garbage.], heh i somehow expected that xD [00:57] Only phone I've ever done anything custom firmwarey with. [01:00] But... Yeah, it would run scarily hot... It generally performed much worse than the Nexus 5, which I used instead for a lot of things [01:01] Oh! And battery life was great... And it bootlooped. [01:01] [Edit] Oh! And battery life wasn't great... And it bootlooped. [01:03] yeah those are the tales i heard of πŸ˜‚ [01:10] Hmm using devel for pixel 3a.. supposed to have anbox but cant seem to get it to work.. [01:18] what error are you seeing? [01:19] MyNameIsEarlB was added by: MyNameIsEarlB [01:21] Hello everyone. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me which on screen keyboard comes installed on Ubuntu touch? … I seen an old video from 2017 of it running on a pinephone and the keyboard had suggestions that you could tap above it. Anyone know the name of this keyboard? [01:22] [Edit] Hello everyone. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me which on screen keyboard comes installed on Ubuntu touch? … I seen an old video from 2017 of it running and the keyboard had suggestions that you could tap above it. Anyone know the name of this keyboard? [01:22] it is the maliit-keyboard [01:23] the suggestions are still working in the most recent update of ubuntu-touch [01:23] Thank you, i just got myself a pinephone a few days ago and am running Debian on it. So far so good except I'm used you swiping to text and there's neither on mobian for the pinephone [01:24] [Edit] Thank you, i just got myself a pinephone a few days ago and am running Debian on it. So far so good except I'm used to swiping to text and there's neither on mobian for the pinephone [01:24] i am not sure if the ubuntu touch keyboard is usable on mobian considering it works with qt [01:25] Should I get a Pinephone? [01:25] then again work on upstreaming many ubuntu touch components to debian is underway [01:25] from what i've heard if you are ok with tinkering a pinephone is not a bad choice [01:26] [Edit] from what i've heard if you are ok with tinkering a pinephone is great [01:26] @Fuseteam [what error are you seeing?], I would say it's most likely me having no idea what I'm doing.. [01:26] I remember someone claiming to host a website on a webserver on the modern in one...or was that a different fossy phone? [01:26] Just tried adb install and file name and it just says waiting for device [01:26] @Onp0int [I would say it's most likely me having no idea what I'm doing..], maybe, but it would help if you share the error message. maybe i can help you, but then again maybe its about my head xD [01:27] Even though I am already in adb shell.. [01:27] @Onp0int [Just tried adb install and file name and it just says waiting for device], oh what does `adb devices` say? [01:27] Shows pixel3a [01:27] are you running adb from a computer? [01:27] @Fuseteam [i am not sure if the ubuntu touch keyboard is usable on mobian considering it wo …], Alright, was just about to see if i could just install it and hoped it would work out of the box. … What does qt stand for? [01:28] qt is a toolkit alternative to gtk [01:29] @MyNameIsEarlB [Alright, was just about to see if i could just install it and hoped it would wor …], i'm not sure how the package is called btw, it might not be "maliit-keyboard" [01:30] the keyboard itself is know as maliit keyboard tho afaik [01:31] @Fuseteam [qt is a toolkit alternative to gtk], Alright thank you. I've seen qt around a few times, didn't realize what it was. [01:31] @Fuseteam [i'm not sure how the package is called btw, it might not be "maliit-keyboard"], Ok yeah i found it on Google. Thanks [01:31] @MyNameIsEarlB [Ok yeah i found it on Google. Thanks], great, glad i could help [01:32] @Fuseteam [are you running adb from a computer?], Yes, running it from a ubuntu laptop [01:34] @Onp0int [Yes, running it from a ubuntu laptop], you should use adb on your phone, anbox is like having an android phone on your ubuntu phone to an certain extend [01:35] @Onp0int [Yes, running it from a ubuntu laptop], [Edit] you should run `adb devices` on your phone, anbox is like having an android phone on your ubuntu phone to an certain extend [01:39] @Fuseteam [you should run adb devices on your phone, anbox is like having an android phone …], Thanks, will keep playing with it. [01:41] Do wish this telegram app was better, cant see what you are typing.. [01:41] you can't see what i'm typing? [01:42] @Onp0int [Do wish this telegram app was better, cant see what you are typing..], what telegram app are you using? [01:42] @Onp0int [Thanks, will keep playing with it.], No, sorry, i cant see what I am typing while I am tryping it, keyboard covers the input field [01:44] It is the telegram web app in the open store [01:45] When Ubuntu touch released for redmi 4A … Eagerly waiting to test [01:46] So if i understand correctly.. Plasma mobile uses qt and gnome uses gtk? [01:46] @Onp0int [It is the telegram web app in the open store], try teleports, it beta but it is a native app [01:47] @MyNameIsEarlB [So if i understand correctly.. Plasma mobile uses qt and gnome uses gtk?], hmm yeah more or less [01:47] ubuntu touch does not use plasma however [01:47] it does use qt [01:47] Unity? [01:47] Is that what it uses [01:47] unity was gtk based [01:47] Oh alright [01:48] unity8, now called lomiri is qt based [01:48] Oh yeah i remember now. Looks way better than phosh and plasma imo [01:48] fwiw qt apps can work on a gtk system, you just need to have the dependencies [01:48] @MyNameIsEarlB [Oh yeah i remember now. Looks way better than phosh and plasma imo], i agree tbh xD [01:50] I honestly didn't even know that the different desktop environments were fundamentally different. I thought they just changed the look of things. Now everything makes so much more sense lol. … Why there's completely different apps in plasma and gonna [01:50] [Edit] I honestly didn't even know that the different desktop environments were fundamentally different. I thought they just changed the look of things. Now everything makes so much more sense lol. … Why there's completely different apps in plasma and gnome [01:50] And the others [01:51] same reason i suppose they use different toolkits [01:51] but different goals is also a factor [01:52] the reason the morph browser exists is because ubuntu touch's goal is to be convergent [01:52] therefore its default apps should also be convergent [01:53] all that said, i need to hit the hay now. hope i've been of assistence [01:53] @BRAN_DARKUS [When Ubuntu touch released for redmi 4A … Eagerly waiting to test], How long it will take for redmi 4A [01:53] OK so far the teleports appeared is MUCH better! [01:53] @Onp0int [OK so far the teleports appeared is MUCH better!], glad to hear [01:54] @BRAN_DARKUS [How long it will take for redmi 4A], depends on the porter, as the work is done by volunteers is there is never a strict ETA [01:54] the are two options: wait untill it is ready, or look for ways to assist the porter [01:54] [Edit] the are two options: wait until it is ready, or look for ways to assist the porter [01:55] @Fuseteam [depends on the porter, as the work is done by volunteers is there is never a str …], Just an guess for how long...so I ask.... [01:55] in either case it will be ready when its ready [01:55] @BRAN_DARKUS [Just an guess for how long...so I ask....], nobody knows, not even the porter knows :P [01:56] if nobody answers a question it is either because the people who know are asleep or nobody knows [01:56] like right now it is 4AM for many of the active contributors [01:57] as for me it is close to 11PM i need to get up in approximately 8 hours [01:57] so with that good night o/ [01:57] [Edit] so with that, good night o/ [02:03] @BRAN_DARKUS [Just an guess for how long...so I ask....], youd probably be better off selling it and buying a phone thats already compatible. [02:04] or forking over some cash to help motivate [02:04] @MyNameIsEarlB [youd probably be better off selling it and buying a phone thats already compatib …], I trying for that...πŸ˜… [02:21] Hmm is there no do not disturb mode? [02:22] pull down the sound indicator and turn on silent mode [02:22] If you want to disable vibrations as well, tap the Sound Settings option. [02:29] Does that also make it to where the alarm will not sound? [02:29] no [02:29] OK good :) thanks! [02:37] Any port for Xperia h3223? [08:43] Xiran TerΓ‘n was added by: Xiran TerΓ‘n [09:38] α΄˜α΄‡Κ€κœ°α΄‡α΄„α΄›!!!! α΄‡ΚŸα΄Ι΄α΄‡ ᴍᴜsα΄‹ Ι’Ιͺα΄ ΙͺΙ΄Ι’ α΄„Κ€Κα΄˜α΄›α΄α΄α΄!!! … https://cutt.ly/hbq7rrX [09:41] @agoraquando [Any port for Xperia h3223?], Sergio, please check the devices page, it's linked from one of the pinned messages. [11:32] @klaartje_b [Sergio, please check the devices page, it's linked from one of the pinned messag …], Checked. It was close, but not enough. [11:33] @agoraquando [Checked. It was close, but not enough.], ports are device specific, if its not on the list, you will need to build an custom image for your device [12:08] Is there any chance that you guys, put Anbox natively in future builds [12:09] @ImAdityaRajpoot [Is there any chance that you guys, put Anbox natively in future builds], Define natively [12:10] @Flohack [Define natively], means pre installed [12:10] the tools to install anbox is already pre-install [12:10] [Edit] the tools to install anbox is already pre-installed [12:10] it's a simple `anbox-tool install` away [12:11] @ImAdityaRajpoot [means pre installed], not everyone wants it preinstalled … as mentioned, it is now easier to install by default on most devices [12:11] @Fuseteam [the tools to install anbox is already pre-installed], well that was, I'm unaware of [12:11] @Fuseteam [it's a simple anbox-tool install away], thanks [12:12] @Javacookies [not everyone wants it preinstalled … as mentioned, it is now easier to install by …], I'm using OnePlusOne [12:12] @Fuseteam [it's a simple anbox-tool install away], Is there any guide to follow, or just one command [12:13] just one command really [12:13] but remember that anbox is pre-experimental alpha [12:13] @Fuseteam [just one command really], GreatπŸ‘Œ [12:13] i mean experimental pre-alpha [12:14] @Fuseteam [i mean experimental pre-alpha], Yaa, sure lot of bugs [12:14] most of our experience can be summed up as "all the apps we wanted to run don't, but it works" [12:14] also removing is a bit more complicated πŸ˜… [12:14] @Javacookies [also removing is a bit more complicated πŸ˜…], 3-ish commands iirc [12:15] @Javacookies [also removing is a bit more complicated πŸ˜…], [Edit] 3-ish commands iirc :P [12:15] @Fuseteam [3-ish commands iirc :P], πŸ‘ [12:15] also also there is a documentation for everything except removing https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html [12:16] yeah, disable, delete desktop files, delete anbox data files [12:16] badum tss [12:16] @Fuseteam [also also there is a documentation for everything except removing https://docs.u …], thanks for the link [12:19] πŸ‘ [12:29] @Tedster [I remember someone claiming to host a website on a webserver on the modern in on …], sure i think runing a server is possible on all them [14:25] Grynkx was added by: Grynkx [14:28] you can run a server on anything really, but without practical application [14:37] Hyaakimaru was added by: Hyaakimaru [14:37] Heyy [14:37] I am new to ubuntu touch [14:37] I have redmi 4x santoni [14:37] And it support ubport ubuntu touch [14:37] But anyone know how to [14:38] Install anbox in it... Ik ubport doesn't have anbox support for santoni [14:38] But anyone know how to port for it? [14:41] what version are you on? what does `anbox-tool install` say? [14:54] It says [14:54] Santoni is not [14:54] Supported [14:55] nothing about the kernel? [14:55] @Fuseteam [what version are you on? what does anbox-tool install say?], It is like 16.0x [14:55] nah that's not the full version number, all ut devices are on 16.04 [14:55] @Fuseteam [nothing about the kernel?], Actually I had to again install android for my apps [14:55] So I forgot about kernel version [14:55] check in setting in the about section what version you are on [14:56] [Edit] check in settings in the about section what version you are on [14:56] or perhaps......are you on gsi? [14:56] Gsi? [14:56] i'll take that as a "no" [14:56] Umm idk [14:57] Should I install it again? [14:57] But my important apps will stop working πŸ˜“ [14:57] what does the `software` section in about say? [14:57] like open system-settings go to about [14:57] I don't have ubuntu touch rnπŸ˜• [14:58] huh? [14:58] I installed android again for whatsapp [14:58] And [14:58] Other apps [14:58] i thought you said you tried `anbox-tool install` [14:58] Yeah I tried [14:58] It [14:58] Actually I installed Ubuntu touch from [14:58] oh whatsapp won't have notifications in anbox atm [14:58] Ubport installer [14:59] And After that I tried [14:59] anbox-tool install [14:59] This [14:59] yes but which channel did you use? stable? rc? development? [14:59] But it said " [14:59] @Fuseteam [yes but which channel did you use? stable? rc? development?], Stable [14:59] Yeah it was stable [14:59] But Anbox not working so I installed android again [15:00] ah there is a change in development that would tell you if your kernel has the correct patches rather than if your specific device model is supported or not [15:00] it will arrive in stable in a few weeks [15:00] but if you rely on android apps, anbox may not be suitable for you atm [15:02] @Fuseteam [ah there is a change in development that would tell you if your kernel has the c …], Official website of ubport says it supports ubuntu touch [15:02] @Fuseteam [but if you rely on android apps, anbox may not be suitable for you atm], I only use about 2-3 apps which are important... Like whatsapp [15:02] @Hyaakimaru [Official website of ubport says it supports ubuntu touch], ubports is the community behind ubuntu touch yes [15:02] @Fuseteam [ubports is the community behind ubuntu touch yes], Yeah [15:03] @Hyaakimaru [I only use about 2-3 apps which are important... Like whatsapp], whatsapp in anbox will not have voice calls, video calls or notifications for example [15:03] Ohh [15:03] πŸ˜• [15:03] because well, anbox is experimental pre-alpha and thus does not have any hardware access atm [15:04] tho voice calls may work if mic access works not sure, you may miss voice calls [15:04] [Edit] tho voice calls may work if mic access works not sure, but you may miss voice calls [15:04] Sed life... But there are not much linux os for mobile better thn ubuntu touch, ryt? [15:04] not at the moment no [15:04] @Fuseteam [tho voice calls may work if mic access works not sure, but you may miss voice ca …], Who cares about voice calls... But Video calls [15:04] kinda wish whatsapp supported ubuntu touch [15:05] Yeah [15:05] @Hyaakimaru [Who cares about voice calls... But Video calls], yeah no camera access means no video calls [15:05] @Hyaakimaru [Yeah], only if we could convince whatsapp to support ubuntu touch [15:05] I think I should drop Idea to install Ubuntu touch [15:05] @Fuseteam [only if we could convince whatsapp to support ubuntu touch], But we need more ubuntu users [15:05] For that [15:06] Because They supported for Microsoft in past [15:06] and thus the loop starts again [15:06] But when Microsoft lost users [15:06] They removed it [15:06] no they dropped microsoft because microsoft dropped themselves [15:07] i mean they dropped windows phone because microsoft dropped windows phone, its an unsupported operating system [15:07] the story is different with ubuntu touch [15:07] is it supported and it i think there were somewhere between 1k and 10k users [15:07] [Edit] it is supported and it i think there were somewhere between 1k and 10k users [15:08] Ohh [15:08] Maybe [15:08] But Isn't there another way [15:08] To [15:08] Run android apps... Except mulit rom [15:08] tbh the best way is to convince the android developers to support ubuntu touch [15:08] πŸ˜…πŸ˜… [15:08] True [15:09] i once did send a mail to whatsapp to support ubuntu touch [15:09] i only got a general answer [15:09] [Edit] i only got a generic answer [15:10] We should write [15:10] Petition [15:10] yeah new petition might be an idea [15:10] [Edit] yeah a new petition might be an idea [15:10] Yeah [15:10] Petition is a good idea [15:10] Wait, new petition? It means they already sent petition before? [15:10] the question is how do we reach the people who want ubuntu touch but don't due to missing whatsapp [15:11] yes but as you can see it didn't get enough visibility [15:11] WA wants a million users to support a platform [15:11] better to just stop using WA [15:11] like 300 or so signed the first time [15:11] it was also badly written [15:11] million is a big number. [15:12] indeed it is [15:12] @Golden Monk [million is a big number.], What if they start supporting to pinephone? [15:12] Plus: there is also a group of users who use UT more as privacy/degoogled iPhone. [15:12] *phone [15:12] i dunno about million, nokia s40 didn't have a million users did it? [15:12] wish I knew million people. πŸ˜‚ [15:12] @Fuseteam [i dunno about million, nokia s40 didn't have a million users did it?], probably did [15:12] @Fuseteam [i dunno about million, nokia s40 didn't have a million users did it?], I don't think nso [15:12] So* [15:13] or windows phone.......then again microsoft has a million dollars anyway :p [15:13] But listen [15:13] Whatsapp is working on [15:13] Feature to [15:13] well yeah, you can also pay them. but we can't of course [15:13] Run whatsapp web [15:14] whatsapp web does work btw [15:14] Without internet on primary phone [15:14] billion dollar company though, of course can [15:14] @Fuseteam [whatsapp web does work btw], Yeah they have client apps on store [15:14] КАКАРОВ was added by: КАКАРОВ [15:14] @Hyaakimaru [Yeah they have client apps on store], an unofficial webapp yes [15:14] no camera access tho [15:14] @Fuseteam [an unofficial webapp yes], Yes [15:15] @Fuseteam [no camera access tho], But developer can fix it [15:15] https://open-store.io/app/alefnode.whatsweb [15:15] yeah it is being worked on [15:15] but it is not trivial to fix [15:15] Yeah I saw this version [15:16] its currently the closest we got to whatsapp on ut :p [15:16] πŸ˜• [15:16] <КАКАРОВ> hello i have chance to bay Xiaomi Mi A2 … but how to know is with JDI display or not [15:17] @Fuseteam [its currently the closest we got to whatsapp on ut :p], Well that and fluffychat, but you need to set up your own matrix server that way [15:17] @КАКАРОВ [hello i have chance to bay Xiaomi Mi A2 … but how to know is with JDI display o …], Search on google ig [15:18] <КАКАРОВ> google not help much whan use JDI display [15:18] @PhoenixLandPirate [Well that and fluffychat, but you need to set up your own matrix server that way], i don't trust the matrix way yet tbh, iirc there's the chance the account could get banned from whatsapp [15:18] @КАКАРОВ [google not help much whan use JDI display], i think you can ask the guys in t.me/shoukolab they have more experience with that [15:19] @Fuseteam [i don't trust the matrix way yet tbh, iirc there's the chance the account could …], Thats not really a problem with the matrix way, just how these other companys choose to administrate there platforms. [15:19] With that being said, I haven't been banned from discord or facebook for using Fluffychat! [15:19] @PhoenixLandPirate [Thats not really a problem with the matrix way, just how these other companys ch …], it is a risk to the user has to take tho [15:19] facebook really? [15:19] discord actually doesn't mind if you use a bridge afaict [15:20] as long as you don't spam their api [15:20] @Fuseteam [facebook really?], I use facebook messanger and Instagram messanger through fluffychat [15:20] oh i did not know that was possible [15:20] are you puppeting facebook and instagram? [15:21] and discord for that matter πŸ€” [15:21] (Photo, 243x185) https://irc.ubports.com/8jS0uIUQ.png [15:21] i take that to mean "yes" :P [15:21] are you selfhosting? [15:22] wait that facebook bridge bot doesn't look like its puppeting πŸ€” [15:22] The server I message from, no, but I do self host the bridges [15:22] oh interesting [15:22] didn't know you could selfhost just the bridges [15:22] (Photo, 226x88) https://irc.ubports.com/BlQ8fqxr.png [15:23] You have to self host an entire matrix, but I only use that matrix for puppets exclusively, because I dont have the confidence in myself or will power to keep everything up to date all the time. [15:24] oh that makes sense [15:25] Yeah, so you can't sign up, and the bots only whitelist my username and host, so you shouldn't be able to activate a bridge with my bots unless you specifically ask me and I set it up to do that for you. [15:26] that also keeps the server optimized, nice [15:27] Thats nothing against people using my server for that, it's just that I'm only paying a small amount for hosting, so I don't want to get a sudden influx, and also if I update it, sometimes it takes a while to get back up, and if people need it, and it breaks or something, then they'll be relying on me, if they're cool then its f [15:27] ine, but if they needed the bot, I'm not getting paid so I dont need the angry messages :') [15:28] yeah it's completely understandable πŸ˜‚ [15:28] or you should offer a paid service muhehehehehe [15:28] angry messages commence [15:28] [Edit] angry messages initiated [15:29] If it pays the bills, or gets me an extra coffee or two every now and again, then I dont mind that! [15:29] xD [15:38] @mateosalta [sure i think runing a server is possible on all them], Modem** gah [15:57] <КАКАРОВ> xiomi mi a2 IPS display is that ok for ubuntu touch ? [16:04] @КАКАРОВ [xiomi mi a2 IPS display is that ok for ubuntu touch ?], no idea ask in the group i linked, they know more about the xiaomi mi a2 [16:04] @КАКАРОВ [xiomi mi a2 IPS display is that ok for ubuntu touch ?], Yeah its okay [16:05] <КАКАРОВ> great [16:07] Is the port for the OnePlus one stable? [16:07] Like are there bugs that might stop you from using UT as a daily driver? [16:10] @TheVancedGamer [Is the port for the OnePlus one stable?], I use it as my only phone. [16:23] @TheVancedGamer [Like are there bugs that might stop you from using UT as a daily driver?], depends on your usecase, the overal state can be seen on devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/bacon [16:33] ming xing was added by: ming xing [16:36] @Fuseteam [depends on your usecase, the overal state can be seen on devices.ubuntu-touch.io …], Thank you :) [16:40] @klaartje_b [I use it as my only phone.], You use Ubuntu touch as daily driver? [16:45] @Hyaakimaru [You use Ubuntu touch as daily driver?], Yes, many people do [16:45] But if you have requirements that it doesn't meet, you don't have to [16:45] I used to [16:45] But how they use android apps? Or they just don't use [16:45] Then my OPO fell out my pocket [16:45] @Hyaakimaru [But how they use android apps? Or they just don't use], Just don't [16:45] Tbh [16:45] @Hyaakimaru [But how they use android apps? Or they just don't use], Don't use [16:45] Oh [16:46] I use telegram web, SoundCloud web [16:46] Some fun games on open store [16:46] I like the Idea of ubuntu touch but.. it doesn't support many [16:46] Apps I use as daily driver [16:46] @amyosx [I use telegram web, SoundCloud web], For that you need host app [16:46] No? [16:47] Webber [16:47] Like when you switch from Android to iOS, you might need to change your habits in order to use Ubuntu Touch. Just... more habits than with the main platforms. [16:47] If you don't want to do that, that's fine. [16:47] Only WhatsApp you need that hell [16:47] @amyosx [Only WhatsApp you need that hell], Thats what I am talking about πŸ˜‚ [16:48] @UniversalSuperBox [Like when you switch from Android to iOS, you might need to change your habits i …], True, but Iphone support many apps we use in Android like whatsapp, Telegram, DJI apps [16:48] Etc [16:48] Yes, you are not saying anything that all 3000 people in this group don't already know. :) [16:49] πŸ™‚ [16:49] Yup [16:49] Telegram works (teleports or a web app) [16:49] Web app does not need another phone [16:49] you can use android as secondary phone if you really want to use UT [16:49] @amyosx [Web app does not need another phone], For whatsapp they do [16:49] @Hyaakimaru [For whatsapp they do], Only whatsapp [16:50] Cause Facebook [16:50] @Hyaakimaru [True, but Iphone support many apps we use in Android like whatsapp, Telegram, DJ …], telegram does support ubuntu touch [16:50] @Javacookies [you can use android as secondary phone if you really want to use UT], Or dual boot in some [16:50] and whatsapp is not the only webapp around xD [16:50] @Fuseteam [telegram does support ubuntu touch], but We need host app for that [16:50] And it support web client [16:50] I never used WhatsApp in the first place... all I'm missing is a good app for Signal, but that is underway. Axolotl is in very active development at the moment. … Teleports works fine as a Telegram client. [16:50] @Hyaakimaru [but We need host app for that], no we do not [16:50] @amyosx [Cause Facebook], Facebook is shit tbh [16:50] @amyosx [Or dual boot in some], or that, though there's no official solution for that yet [16:50] @Fuseteam [no we do not], You sure 😨 [16:50] ? [16:51] do not conflate whatsapp with all webapps, whatsapp is only of few that require a host, telegram does not, soundcloud does not [16:51] You don't need a host app to use TELEports or any Telegram webapp. [16:51] @Javacookies [or that, though there's no official solution for that yet], Yeah... If I use ubport installer thn it will not allow dual boot [16:51] @Javacookies [or that, though there's no official solution for that yet], MultiROM works on bacon [16:51] @Hyaakimaru [Facebook is shit tbh], it is but you can't escape it if everyone you know use it πŸ˜… [16:51] With patches [16:51] and teleports is a native client for telegram btw ;) [16:52] @Javacookies [it is but you can't escape it if everyone you know use it πŸ˜…], They made us habitual [16:52] @amyosx [MultiROM works on bacon], on Nexus 5 as well, easy to install but hard to reflash πŸ˜… [16:52] @Fuseteam [and teleports is a native client for telegram btw ;)], I will try it thn... Finally good news [16:52] btw in case the news didn't reach, whatsapp is working on making whatsapp web standalone [16:52] @Fuseteam [btw in case the news didn't reach, whatsapp is working on making whatsapp web st …], Yeah they are... [16:52] it is able to do video calls appearently on the desktop [16:53] @Fuseteam [it is able to do video calls appearently on the desktop], On desktop it works fine [16:53] so with a lot of work whatsweb could a possible replacement [16:53] and i mean a lot of work [16:53] [Edit] and i mean a lot of work :P [16:53] unfortunately, there are times you need something that UT can't do yet so may be better to have a backup iPhone/Android phone … recently, I had a similar situation πŸ˜† [16:54] @Fuseteam [so with a lot of work whatsweb could a possible replacement], Many People will think to migrate to ubuntu touch after that [16:54] @Javacookies [unfortunately, there are times you need something that UT can't do yet so may be …], yeah there are some situations like that [16:54] @Hyaakimaru [Many People will think to migrate to ubuntu touch after that], It won't be like a mass exodus or anything, we can't set the expectations too high. [16:54] @Javacookies [unfortunately, there are times you need something that UT can't do yet so may be …], I can't even call with my Sim card while using Ubuntu touch because that sim card only call with voLTE [16:54] @UniversalSuperBox [It won't be like a mass exodus or anything, we can't set the expectations too hi …], Yeah but still a lil bit [16:55] @Hyaakimaru [Many People will think to migrate to ubuntu touch after that], who knows, you mentioned need 3 apps not 1 remember? just whatsapp won't be enough :P [16:55] but for many years, I use UT exclusively … I have an android phone now because I thought I can use UT on it but it was discontinued before I can even try πŸ˜‚ [16:55] lol [16:56] @Fuseteam [who knows, you mentioned need 3 apps not 1 remember? just whatsapp won't be enou …], Dji apps are exception... Because people usually buy secondary phone for drones [16:56] You could use whatsapp with a XMPP client [16:56] (I think that's the spelling) [16:56] @Hyaakimaru [Dji apps are exception... Because people usually buy secondary phone for drones], DJi? like Disk Jockey Inc? [16:56] @Hyaakimaru [I can't even call with my Sim card while using Ubuntu touch because that sim car …], that really worries me, my country will most likely be late on that regard but it will definitely affect many UT users [16:56] @Javacookies [but for many years, I use UT exclusively … I have an android phone now because I t …], SadπŸ˜… [16:56] @Fuseteam [DJi? like Disk Jockey Inc?], The drone company [16:56] @Fuseteam [DJi? like Disk Jockey Inc?], DJI is drone company [16:56] ah [16:57] Yeah... Actually I repair drone [16:57] So I need that app [16:57] @TheVancedGamer [You could use whatsapp with a XMPP client], that was the case but whatsapp are rather strict, they have banned third party clients in the past [16:57] @Hyaakimaru [So I need that app], But Yeah I can use desktop for that [16:57] @Fuseteam [that was the case but whatsapp are rather strict, they have banned third party c …], There is a client for that that still works [16:57] if it only needs network access, i think it could work with anbox πŸ€” [16:58] @TheVancedGamer [There is a client for that that still works], still risky for new users [16:58] Even Sailfish OS doesn't support, ryt? [16:58] oh hey sailfish, good point [16:58] wonder how many people are users of sailfish and ut combined πŸ€” [16:59] Idk... πŸ˜• [16:59] I never saw user of sailfish [16:59] Os [16:59] Here In my country there aren't much user because of ofc voLTE [16:59] well there are 3k users here lemme see how the sailfish group compares lol [17:00] Lol [17:00] Check! [17:00] I feel like there are more Sailfish users [17:00] i don't think their active on telegram [17:01] their news channel plus @sailfishos amounts to around 1k lol [17:01] @Javacookies [I feel like there are more Sailfish users], same [17:02] and even if whatsapp decides to support sailfish, its not like they'll just support ut while they're at it πŸ˜‚ [17:02] @Fuseteam [their news channel plus @sailfishos amounts to around 1k lol], Lol [17:02] We are just unlucku [17:02] Unlucky* [17:02] use the power of your name :^3 [17:03] Its just a nameπŸ˜” [17:03] boo [17:03] Thats why there is not even official support of sailfish for my phone [17:04] @Hyaakimaru [I never saw user of sailfish], I can stretch my arm out and touch one! [17:04] not really :p [17:04] there we go heh [17:04] @klaartje_b [I can stretch my arm out and touch one!], Is he ur homie? [17:05] Jerdna was added by: Jerdna [17:05] @Hyaakimaru [Is he ur homie?], You know what, I'll go with 'yes'. πŸ˜‚ [17:05] πŸ˜‚ [17:05] Thats great [17:05] How he use apps? [17:05] Or even he have secondary phone? [17:06] He doesn't really use the smartphone... he carries a feature phone. [17:06] He is the lucky one [17:06] He mostly uses his laptop, like I do. Signal, Telegram and everything else. [17:07] @klaartje_b [He mostly uses his laptop, like I do. Signal, Telegram and everything else.], Thats what I am thinking [17:07] Like [17:08] Installing UT on phone [17:08] And using laptop for [17:08] Typing on a phone is a pain and viewing the web on a phone is like looking outside through the mail slot. 😜 [17:08] Whatsapp or telegram [17:08] @klaartje_b [Typing on a phone is a pain and viewing the web on a phone is like looking outsi …], YeahπŸ˜… [17:09] But using laptop whole time is also pain [17:09] @klaartje_b [Typing on a phone is a pain and viewing the web on a phone is like looking outsi …], i wonder how much improved it would be with a japanese style 12 key keyboard [17:10] @Hyaakimaru [But using laptop whole time is also pain], I like my laptop. It sits on my lap, it's warm and it purrs. Like a cat. [17:10] @Fuseteam [wonder how many people are users of sailfish and ut combined πŸ€”], I use sfos now and then :P [17:12] @klaartje_b [I like my laptop. It sits on my lap, it's warm and it purrs. Like a cat.], Lol [17:12] @klaartje_b [Typing on a phone is a pain and viewing the web on a phone is like looking outsi …], UT is fun to use on a tablet πŸ˜„ … better for viewing and multitaskin, although typing is more painful πŸ˜… [17:13] @Javacookies [UT is fun to use on a tablet πŸ˜„ … better for viewing and multitaskin, although typ …], I use Ubuntu as my primary OS on laptop [17:13] And yeah its amazing [17:13] @Javacookies [UT is fun to use on a tablet πŸ˜„ … better for viewing and multitaskin, although typ …], Soon. We 'just' need to hack our way in despite the FRP lock. [17:14] @Javacookies [UT is fun to use on a tablet πŸ˜„ … better for viewing and multitaskin, although typ …], How about a BT keyboard? [17:14] try to search on youtube … that's how I was able to reset a samsung tablet πŸ˜„ [17:15] @Javacookies [try to search on youtube … that's how I was able to reset a samsung tablet πŸ˜„], Thanks, I will! [17:15] @klaartje_b [How about a BT keyboard?], that's fine when I use it on a table but I hold it more often with 2 hands [17:15] @Javacookies [that's fine when I use it on a table but I hold it more often with 2 hands], Makes sense. [17:16] @klaartje_b [How about a BT keyboard?], pinephone with keyboard [17:17] pinephone keyboard back/cover with NFC, Qi, and extra battery == now it's a laptop [17:17] a very small laptop πŸ˜„ [17:17] palmtop [17:18] probably about the same size as my old fujitsu u820 [17:18] <КАКАРОВ> ubport installer work on Xiaomi Mi A2 or need another way ? [17:18] with some more pixels [17:18] @dohbee [pinephone keyboard back/cover with NFC, Qi, and extra battery == now it's a lapt …], Pinephone with better specs when? [17:18] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/mg0jek8e.webp [17:18] I personally prefer a smaller and slide out keyboard … though, I must say, I don't really look much for a physical keyboard on phones [17:18] @КАКАРОВ [ubport installer work on Xiaomi Mi A2 or need another way ?], Do you have a jdi panel? [17:19] @Javacookies [I personally prefer a smaller and slide out keyboard … though, I must say, I don't …], well i can't replace my main phone with it anyway, so having it as a palmtop would probably be better [17:19] <КАКАРОВ> touch screen nvt-ts [17:19] @dohbee [palmtop], Like a Psion. [17:20] @КАКАРОВ [touch screen nvt-ts], send a screenshot [17:20] <КАКАРОВ> of what ?hw [17:20] @Javacookies [I personally prefer a smaller and slide out keyboard … though, I must say, I don't …], Are physical keyboards supported? Which ported phone has one? [17:20] @КАКАРОВ [of what ?hw], yes, that app [17:20] @ee [Are physical keyboards supported? Which ported phone has one?], cosmo communicator and fxtec pro 1 [17:20] pinetab [17:21] @ee [Are physical keyboards supported? Which ported phone has one?], wired and BT keyboards are supported … and Rodney mentioned the known devices with built-in physical keyboard [17:29] Antishitstorm14Bot was removed by: UniversalSuperBox [17:29] AntishitstormBot was removed by: UniversalSuperBox [17:29] They haven't done anything recently. [17:32] hmm, i guess not πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ [17:45] @dohbee [palmtop], are we allowed to call it a "palmtop" πŸ˜‚ [17:46] yes [17:51] @Javacookies [wired and BT keyboards are supported … and Rodney mentioned the known devices with …], Excellent. Thanks! [18:16] myshoppoo was added by: myshoppoo [18:24] @dohbee [yes], well then imma call all ut devices palmtops from now on xD [18:24] they don't all have keyboards though [18:25] you make a point πŸ‘€ [18:28] (Photo, 318x211) https://irc.ubports.com/IMcQhebu.png I have this one somewhere... I bought it for a motorbike trip through Africa. It performed fine, mostly for email. [18:30] @Fuseteam [], aha! it is because it is scaled! i wonder if this is fixable in the container [18:41] Synt4x93 was added by: Synt4x93 [18:42] @klaartje_b [], Did you have the dock for it too? Great device [18:43] @Synt4x93 [Did you have the dock for it too? Great device], No, just a charger, stylus and a PCMCIA modem. It could dial in! [18:43] @klaartje_b [No, just a charger, stylus and a PCMCIA modem. It could dial in!], Very nice, wish I had the modem card back then lol [20:11] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/DfbkNh6K.png [20:38] 0.8.8 is the latest. Download from Gitlab [20:39] wonder why it didn't publish to snap store [20:48] @Stereofont [0.8.8 is the latest. Download from Gitlab], Indeed. But snap can not be updated via the repositories... It was just to inform... [20:56] @dohbee [wonder why it didn't publish to snap store], Looks like it published but I can't promote it [21:11] Aldo_Stefanoni was added by: Aldo_Stefanoni [21:50] C0d4ry was added by: C0d4ry