[18:26] <Eickmeyer> tjaalton: Since you never commented on bug 1925685 but instead marked Focal and Bionic as "Won't Fix", am I accurate in adding linux-hwe-5.8 to the bug since that's really what we need fixed from an OEM standpoint?
[18:26] <Eickmeyer> I mean, am I accurate in your rationalle for the "Won't Fix" status?
[18:27] <Eickmeyer> (we are really nervous about this bug since we're losing money daily on it)
[21:23] <jeremy31> Eickmeyer: you might need to create your own PPA/repo for you customers and build your own kernel packages
[21:24] <Eickmeyer> jeremy31: We have our own repo but would rather not maintain our own kernel. At that point, it's not really Kubuntu anymore.
[21:26] <Eickmeyer> And, therefore, negates the "Kubuntu Focus" branding.
[21:27] <jeremy31> Eickmeyer: dkms package feasable?
[21:27] <Eickmeyer> jeremy31: Nope, it's an intel framebuffer.
[21:27] <tjaalton> Eickmeyer: it's enough to have groovy there
[21:28] <jeremy31> built in the kernel?
[21:28] <Eickmeyer> Yep.
[21:28] <Eickmeyer> tjaalton: The LTS is what needs to be supported. We can't ship Groovy or Hirsute. We target enterprise.
[21:29] <tjaalton> Eickmeyer: the hwe kernel is backported from groovy
[21:29] <Eickmeyer> We tested this on 12 different systems from manufacturers.
[21:29] <Eickmeyer> tjaalton: Ok, fair.
[21:31] <Eickmeyer> tjaalton: With my community council hat on though, we need to explain in the bug report why whenever we mark things as "Won't Fix", otherwise it's offputting.
[21:33] <tjaalton> a new sru cycle starts in two weeks, so assuming khfeng (or someone) sends the commit to thw list within the next week, it should get in proposed roughly two weeksnä from now
[21:34] <tjaalton> well you said it's needed in 5.8
[21:34] <tjaalton> why file it for bionic and focal then
[21:38] <Eickmeyer> tjaalton: Because we tested in Bionic with the 5.0+ kernel and found the same issue.
[21:39] <tjaalton> but 'linux' in bionic is 4.15 iirc
[21:39] <Eickmeyer> Just trying to cover all bases.
[21:39] <Eickmeyer> tjaalton: Yeah, which is why I filed it against hwe as well.
[21:42] <tjaalton> anyway, anyone can send commits to be included, just follow the documentation as to how
[21:42] <Eickmeyer> tjaalton: Ok, sounds good. Really that patch is what is needed. It applies flawlessly to 5.8.
[21:42] <tjaalton> i get it
[21:44] <Eickmeyer> :)