[09:37] <Wohlstand> Hi there!
[19:17] <jelmer> Hi Wohlstand
[19:17] <Wohlstand> Hi, I saw that Baazar doesn't has updates since 2017, is really project abandoned?
[19:18] <Wohlstand> I didn't used it before, I had to review some, but suddenly I found it's not actually updated after 2017
[19:18] <Wohlstand> (the last release in 2016)
[19:18] <LeoNerd> Breezy is the new way forward
[19:18] <Wohlstand> I left the question here https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/696277 but it still not replied
[19:19] <Wohlstand> LeoNerd: I saw some that it's a fork of Baazar
[19:19] <LeoNerd> Somewhat
[19:20] <Wohlstand> Whoops... I accidentally closed my Thunderbird, back here
[19:21] <Wohlstand> Anyway, I looked for some confirmation as I want to note some at the Russian Wikipedia article about the original Baazar the fact it got abandoned or something like
[19:35] <Wohlstand> Okay, I had to checked twice, really, in 2017 the developers of Bazaar desired to majorly refactor the project and they had to make it in a form of a fork rather the next version of the same
[19:39] <jelmer> Wohlstand: do you mean Breezy?
[19:40] <Wohlstand> Yeah, the same creator of Bazaar made it's fork as Breezy with a goal to majorly rework it without hurting the old base and with other goals
[19:41] <jelmer> Wohlstand: and without the original corporate sponsor, which ran Bazaar
[19:41] <Wohlstand> jelmer: You mean Canonical?
[19:41] <jelmer> Yeah
[19:41] <Wohlstand> So, yeah, developer desired to become an independent developer rather be under the sponsorship of Cannonical
[19:41] <Wohlstand> Correct?
[19:43] <Wohlstand> Something like on how the MariaDB was born, or NextCloud (the original creator of OwnCloud has gone off the company and founded the NextCloud instead)
[19:51] <Wohlstand> btw wait, Jelmer, you are co-developer, my mistake, I had should write "you" rather "developer" in the messages above, sorry, simply didn't guessed you until I re-checked the announce letter
[20:18] <jelmer> Wohlstand: it wasn't the sponsorship, it was mostly that there wasn't anybody in Canonical engaged with the Bazaar project, there was no active community and a cumbersome CLA - it was much easier to just fork and make the changes we wanted since we didn't lose much by forking
[20:20] <Wohlstand> Yeah, I see, I may guess that got happen since all Canonical projects got migrated into git, right?
[20:20] <jelmer> yeah, almost all I think
[20:21] <jelmer> well, one of the things about breezy is that it ships git support so that might not necessarily be a blocker :)
[20:21] <Wohlstand> Recently I saw the fact Bitbucket got removed the Mercurial thing away, I had to use it before to host Mercurial repos (some copies from my job where it was used, and SDL' contribution sandboxes)
[20:21] <Wohlstand> I see
[20:22] <Wohlstand> btw, my friend had blamed git for unfriendly command line and other things, however, once I asked him which CSV is most stable, he got suddenly agree that git is
[20:23] <Wohlstand> Also, SDL team had to suddenly migrated their projects into GitHub from their own-hosted Mercurial and Bitbucket server
[20:24] <Wohlstand> nope, bugzilla ***
[20:24] <Wohlstand> not bitbucket